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bruce6315
Feb 3, 2011, 03:26 PM
I have a rough in for a toilet in the basement of our house that was built in the 1953. I would like to make install a toilet there. The concrete is covering part of the flange this I can deal with but how do use remove the plug that's in the flaque. It appearce to be made of steel.

Thank
Bruce

ballengerb1
Feb 3, 2011, 03:38 PM
Does it have a square plug sticking out of it? You are sure that this is not a capped floor drain, right?

ballengerb1
Feb 3, 2011, 03:42 PM
Does it have a square plug sticking out or in it? You are sure this is not a capped floor drain, right? http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/attachment.php%3Fattachmentid%3D9339%26stc%3D1%26d %3D1213644781&imgrefurl=https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/plumbing/shower-toilet-sink-drains-rough-bathroom-227443.html&usg=__J3Z_n8Fu2d0UBTSZELf5Qsngy_E=&h=439&w=640&sz=28&hl=en&start=36&zoom=1&tbnid=YKpeGVBkzEijnM:&tbnh=126&tbnw=184&ei=vi5LTZfzMcX7lweu3-gJ&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drough%2Bin%2Bfor%2Ba%2Btoilet%26um%3D 1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1247%26bih%3D638%26tb s%3Disch:10%2C766&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=781&vpy=357&dur=109&hovh=186&hovw=271&tx=152&ty=143&oei=jS5LTZ-VCMP6lwfrkYDvDw&esq=3&page=3&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:36&biw=1247&bih=638

bruce6315
Feb 3, 2011, 03:45 PM
The plug is round and is in the flange

ballengerb1
Feb 3, 2011, 04:00 PM
Sorry but my links appear to be attached wrong, were you able to open either one? Try highlighting then pasting. All plugs are round. Some are screwed in with a square cap sticking out. Other are PVC caps glued on. Can you post a picture?

massplumber2008
Feb 3, 2011, 05:42 PM
Hi Guys...

A picture would certainly help as ballengerb1 requested.

However, for fun, I'm going to bet that you have a NOHUB cast iron cap in place and that it was leaded in... sound right? Here, you have the cap in place and there would also be a silver/gray ring of soft metal (lead) around the cap.

If this is the case, you would take a 1/4" (or 3/8") drill bit and make a series of holes down through the lead... should be about one inch to 1.5" depth 'till you run into a soft oakum material... until you have removed enough lead that you can take a large screwdriver and leverage the remaining lead up and out of the flange. After the lead is removed you can start to loosen the oakum material and finally remove the cap.

When the cap comes out you will probably find some sand under the cap. Here, take a wet/dry vacuum and vacuum out the sand until the drain is cleared. After that, you should be all set to begin installing the toilet.

If I totally missed, well then, this wasn't as much fun as I hoped... :)

Let us know more here, Bruce!

Mark

bruce6315
Feb 10, 2011, 03:12 PM
massplumber2008

Thanks! Just got back to town yesterday and tried your suggestion. The lead was about and inch thick and the oakum had broken down into dirt but once the lead came out the plug came out very easy. Now I can move on to the easier part. Thanks again.

Bruce

massplumber2008
Feb 10, 2011, 03:15 PM
Thank you for updating us... :)

Mark