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brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 07:12 AM
Is it possible for 2 people to fake a suicide and go into the witness protection program?

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 07:35 AM
When a husband and wife go into the witness protection program do they have to divorce, and go their separate ways or do they get to stay together where ever they are moved to?

tickle
Jan 21, 2011, 07:57 AM
What you are asking doesn't really make any sense, although I know what you are getting at. You have to think that there is no possible way this could be accomplished because you are faking a death. Do you mean faking a suicide of one of the people, then both go into witness protection programme? No, I don't think that will work on any level.

Why did you post this under government, by the way ?

Tick

AK lawyer
Jan 21, 2011, 08:02 AM
No, they get to stay together.

I notice that you have asked two questions about the Witness Protection Program (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Federal_Witness_Protection_Program).

Are you expecting to be a witness and have you been offered witness protection? It is not available unless it is offered to you.

Or are you just asking these questions out of curiosity?

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 08:28 AM
No I haven't been offered, its just out of curiousity, I have my reasons, but thanks a lot! :)

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 08:32 AM
I don't know this is my first time on here I'm trying to do a research, and my question does make sense, you just might not get it, I have a very close friend whose aunt and uncle committed suicide about a year ago and to this day they still believe they may be in witness protection because of what caused the suicide, but I do believe people can do because how else can they just get up and leave there family? They have to make some excuse.

excon
Jan 21, 2011, 08:58 AM
Hello b:

Don't snitch... Whatever they promised you, they're LIARS!!

excon

tickle
Jan 21, 2011, 09:10 AM
The FBI have to put certain individuals in 'witness protection programmes' if they have given evidence on someone who may have them harmed.

If the aunt and uncle were essential to having someone very dangerous put away, I can understand that, but as soon as the 'coast is clear' they come out of the programme if their lives are not in danger.

Yes, I do get what you mean, I said that.

Tick

excon
Jan 21, 2011, 09:21 AM
i have a very close friend whose aunt and uncle committed suicide about a year ago and to this day they still believe they may be in witness protectionHello b:

It's possible someone could be fooled. But, in a suicide, there ARE bodies. So, it's not possible for a professional to be fooled... If your friend wants to THINK it, but isn't able or is unwilling to PROVE it, then I guess he can speculate all he wants.

Why don't you tell us WHY you think this COULD happen? We do our BEST work when we know what's going on... It doesn't help us or you, when you dribble the information out piecemeal...

excon

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 12:37 PM
Excon- that's what I'm saying no one in the family saw the bodies no one has proof that it was a suicide which is why they are thinking witness protection, and how can you prove something when you don't know what's going on. Explain...

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 12:38 PM
Snitch on what? No one is snitching on anything I'm just doing some research

excon
Jan 21, 2011, 12:42 PM
Hello again, b:

I WOULD explain, but you've made it clear that you don't want my advice...

excon

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 12:43 PM
And no offense but I'd rather not get my resources from an "excon"

JudyKayTee
Jan 21, 2011, 01:09 PM
I would suggest these threads be combined.

For someone asking the question for no particular reason (as per your other thread) you sure have a lot of details.

I can't imagine why anyone would put his/her family through the pain of a (fake) double suicide and then go into Witness Protection.

And, again, for someone "just asking," you sure have a lot of details.

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 01:10 PM
Yes I do have a lot of details, and yes it does cause a lot of pain, I'm just trying to get to a source.

JudyKayTee
Jan 21, 2011, 01:10 PM
No offense but why is this posted on corporate law thread?

JudyKayTee
Jan 21, 2011, 01:11 PM
There IS no source for the witness protection program. If there WERE a source no one would, in fact, become "invisible."

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 01:12 PM
I didn't know what I should put it under

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 01:13 PM
I don't mean that kind of source I just need something to help me out to get a weight off my shoulders.

JudyKayTee
Jan 21, 2011, 01:27 PM
Tell us what you need that you haven't already been told.

By the way - Excon knows his stuff. For the record anyone could use any user name. I could call myself exmurderer. That means nothing.

I think you are looking for something to give credence to what you are thinking - first, I think you are incorrect (about the suicides) and, second, there is no such information anywhere.

JudyKayTee
Jan 21, 2011, 01:29 PM
I don't know either but certainly not corporate law.

I'm spending a fair amount of time answering your questions. This thread is different from your other thread.

What is the story and why do you need to know? This type of info is simply not available. If you could find this information no one in the WPP would be safe.

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 01:37 PM
I just wanted to find out general information, like where do they go, the opposite of where they love? Do they stay together? Will I ever see them again? And you are incorrect I'm not until your in my shoes don't just assume please

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 01:38 PM
Well if you think your spending too much time then you don't need to I didn't ask you to, times are just getting hard for me right now its coming up on a year and we still don't know the answer to why they did it or if they really did.

JudyKayTee
Jan 21, 2011, 01:39 PM
What am I assuming? You posted about a dual suicide. You weren't asking about a dual suicide and the WPP?

How/where/when they "go" depends on the reason they have entered the WPP. There is no set of rules. As I keep telling you, if anyone other than the WPP knew the rules of the game there would be no WPP and no one would be safe.

- not that the WPP keeps anyone safe, anyway.

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 01:45 PM
Your assuming that I'm incorrect, maybe you should re-read the question all I asked was it possible and what I meant by that is if someone is in danger could there be a fake death to go into the WPP, so they won't just get up and disappear.

justcurious55
Jan 21, 2011, 01:51 PM
Do you really want to know if it's possible? Or if it's likely? Sure, anything is possible, right? So why not a crazy story like that? Just because something is out there in the realm of possibilities doesn't mean it's likely. I'm getting the impression you just want someone to tell you that yes, that's exactly what happened.

JudyKayTee
Jan 21, 2011, 02:00 PM
"your assuming that im incorrect, maybe you should re-read the question all i asked was it possible and what i meant by that is if someone is in danger could there be a fake death to go into the WPP, so they won't just get up and disappear."

Okay, here's the answer you want.

Yes, the WPP will help one or two people fake their own deaths by suicide in order to enter the WPP so they won't just get up and disappear.

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 02:09 PM
No that's not what I want to hear because it doesn't make people sad when one commits suicide it makes them angry, and if there's a chance it is WPP then it makes family scared, now that the victims are gone, immediate family will be next.

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 02:09 PM
No actually he didn't nail it.

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 02:21 PM
Obviously NO ONE gets where I'm coming from, I guess it would be hard considering you've never been through it and it sucks when you have all of these thoughts running through your head EVERYDAY wondering if you'll ever see them again if there in WPP or if they are really gone and how they could just do that to their family and how bad it hurts, it brings people physically and emotionally down, I know I can't know anything about WPP obviously, but if there was a way I would do anything to find out, I just wanted some opinions on what people thing or to know if someone's been through something like that as well.

justcurious55
Jan 21, 2011, 02:22 PM
OK, so what makes you think they are in witness protection? Because you don't want to believe that they killed themselves? I get it if you don't want to believe that. Suicide is tragic. Especially if it's a loved one. I understand if you don't want to believe they killed themselves. But why witness protection? What makes you think that is likely?

justcurious55
Jan 21, 2011, 02:25 PM
I know i can't know anything about WPP obviously, but if there was a way i would do anything to find out, i just wanted some opinions on what people thing

Obviously not, obviously you don't really just want other people's opinions. Because we've given you our opinions and you don't like them so you keep asking and changing the story as though that will change things and it won't.

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 02:30 PM
What makes me think that is like is because they were in danger, someone was after them they owed money, they we're VERY wealthy and they just ended it. I'm not changing my story I'm adding more to it. To give everyone more of an idea.

justcurious55
Jan 21, 2011, 02:36 PM
Have you seen a grief counselor?
It's sad, but unfortunately it's not all that uncommon to see stories like that in the news anymore. People that had it all, then the economy went bad, people lost it all and didn't feel like they could tell the people around them and ended it. It's terrible, but unfortunately it happens.

JudyKayTee
Jan 21, 2011, 02:59 PM
I agree with justcurious55 - some type of counselling is needed here. The possible suicides were related to a friend of the OP, not the OP himself/herself. Not that it would make it any less obsessive but OP is obsessing and needs closure. Counselling is the only option I can see.

Wondergirl
Jan 21, 2011, 03:12 PM
Why WPP? If there were no bodies found, why couldn't they have just disappeared and are now in South America or in Europe, hiding out on their own?

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 03:13 PM
Ok I think I've made it obvious its not my friend, and I don't need counseling just and I'm a her.

JudyKayTee
Jan 21, 2011, 03:15 PM
I only know what you posted - you said "your friend." I have no way of knowing you're a "she" and not a "he." Doesn't change what I've said. You are obsessing and need closure.

You also need a different attitude.

Once you lie here once as far as I'm concerned every word you post could be (and often is) a lie. Why you started with a lie (or lies) and then continued until you got caught is unknown to me.

Everything has been said. This is going nowhere and perhaps it's time to close.

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 03:15 PM
That wouldn't happen "bodies" were brought out by "detectives" in bags. What makes you think of south africa or europe?

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 03:20 PM
OK first of all why would I lie about that sorry I came upon this website expecting a couple GOOD opinions I have NO attitude I forgot you can hear me. So don't try and say I'm lying if its bothering you get off then

justcurious55
Jan 21, 2011, 03:21 PM
its just out of curiousity obviously, you are not just asking out of curiosity.


I have a very close friend whose aunt and uncle committed suicide about a year ago this is how the story started...


I'm not changing my story I'm adding more to it. To give everyone more of an idea. you say you're just adding details. But then...


Ok I think I've made it obvious its not my friend I think it's pretty obvious it's not your friend too. BUT, you started saying this was a close friend's story. It seems to be your story. So here's a chance for you to be honest and tell us the truth already.


it sucks when you have all of these thoughts running through your head EVERYDAY wondering if you'll ever see them again if there in WPP or if they are really gone and how they could just do that to their family and how bad it hurts, it brings people physically and emotionally down and that alone is reason enough for you to give therapy a try. That's a lot to deal with.

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 03:22 PM
"Depends on which version OP posted that you believed - very few suicides then get up and hide their own bodies."
You are nothing, you know nothing, don't say I'm a liar because, YOU DON'T know, maybe its you that needs help

brm1991
Jan 21, 2011, 03:25 PM
Yeah I said it was my friend at first but then people started questioning me like I'm an idiot and it pissed me off so I said it is actually me its not something I like to brag about I just want to have someone to talk to that knows what I'm going through

Curlyben
Jan 21, 2011, 03:30 PM
As the OP cannot be civil
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