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WERESURVIVORS
Jan 11, 2011, 03:47 AM

excon
Jan 11, 2011, 06:36 AM
Hello W:

Nahhh.

excon

adthern
Jan 11, 2011, 09:24 AM
My gut reaction is no, but I would need to know more about the felony and the "law enforcement." If it were a juvenile record, then possibly it could be expunged/sealed, but even then I wouldn't think you would have a practical shot at it. If I had the choice between two people and one had a felony record, why would I chose the felon over the other candidate?

I would check with the hiring agency, that will give you the answer.

excon
Jan 11, 2011, 09:29 AM
Hello Ad:

The thing is, if he's a felon, he can't carry a weapon.. He could be a dog catcher.

excon

JudyKayTee
Jan 11, 2011, 11:33 AM
My gut reaction is no, but I would need to know more about the felony and the "law enforcement." If it were a juvenile record, then possibly it could be expunged/sealed, but even then I wouldn't think you would have a practical shot at it. If I had the choice between two people and one had a felony record, why would I chose the felon over the other candidate?

I would check with the hiring agency, that will give you the answer.


An expunged/sealed/juvenile record remains visible to certain Government agencies, such as the military, Police, Federal Government.

JudyKayTee
Jan 11, 2011, 11:34 AM
Hello Ad:

The thing is, if he's a felon, he can't carry a weapon.. He could be a dog catcher.

excon


On behalf of dogs everywhere... I hope not.

Fr_Chuck
Jan 11, 2011, 12:48 PM
Not in may area, since they carry a shot gun also.

But I do laugh there was a felon that made th Missouri Highway Patrol. Not sure it was a few years ago, ( made the news) he got in though a family member. They all got fired.

But no , not really any chance

adthern
Jan 11, 2011, 03:42 PM
An expunged/sealed/juvenile record remains visible to certain Government agencies, such as the military, Police, Federal Government.

If they are expunged, they are supposed to be null... though I realize they are still available through board of probation records and police records and thus never really go away. However, in your example the military, they are allowed to enter the military if the records are expunged/sealed (depending on the statute in the given jurisdiction).

"Law enforcement" covers a lot in peoples minds... from dog catcher to state police to MP to constable. So, I would tend to doubt it, as I said, but I would refer the op to the agency to double check.

excon
Jan 11, 2011, 03:51 PM
If they are expunged, they are supposed to be null..Hello again, Ad:

A pardon nullifies a conviction.. An expungement hides it..

excon

JudyKayTee
Jan 11, 2011, 03:54 PM
If they are expunged, they are supposed to be null...though I realize they are still available through board of probation records and police records and thus never really go away. However, in your example the military, they are allowed to enter the military if the records are expunged/sealed (depending on the statute in the given jurisdiction).

"Law enforcement" covers alot in peoples minds...from dog catcher to state police to MP to constable. So, I would tend to doubt it, as I said, but I would refer the op to the agency to double check.


I didn't say they would or wouldn't be able to enlist - I said the records are visible to the Government when the background check is run. I know. I'm a former Fed and I run background checks.

Fr_Chuck
Jan 11, 2011, 06:05 PM
The issue is normally you will be asked on military and I know law enforcement, were you ever arrested, the application does not ask convicted in these cases.

In all of mine I had to explain any time I was ever arrested, even if it was a mistake and I was released a hour latter when they discovered I was the wrong person

It is in a record somewhere.

But explunged does not mean a pardon as excon mentioned and does not re-instate their rights to own a firearm or vote, that has to be done separately.

And for military, they will require a waiver for most convictions, not that they can't get them, but they have paper work to go though.