I was wondering how I would get into solitary confinement like the ADX supermax prison in Colorado without doing anything illegal, or is there a place to go to like that where you can get 3 meals a day and bed for free, with the solitary confinement part.

I know I can just rob a bank and get sent to prision, but I am afraid that it will be a regular prison. Can I talk with the DA or a judge or something and get sent there? Or is the only way to get there to break the law? Can I get sent there for just threatening to break the law?

And your reason is what exactly? There has to be a why... its expensive to house prisoners... they aren't going to put non-offenders there, and from what you have said... that appears to be the case.

They typically reserve that for either punishment... protection (as in protective custody IN the prison) or control of someone that puts everyone else at risk.

So hypothetically what would you need to do to get sent there? For example, what jurisdiction would you need to be in, what crimes would you have to commit, and so on. (This is strictly an educational question).

Forgot to add if someone said that if they didn't put them in solitary confinement for the rest of their life, they would do whatever it took to do it, to a judge for instance. Would that place the responsibility of what that individual did on the state?

You're not listening.

You can't request to be put anywhere. As a criminal you're put where the system see's fit. To get solitary they need to have a reason:

"punishment....protection (as in protective custody IN the prison) or control of someone that puts everyone else at risk."

For example:
Some Joe Blow off the street can't rob a bank and then ask to be put in solitary. He'll be put where the jail/prison see's fit unless there's reason to put you there!


Jurisdiction and crime have nothing to do with solitary. They'll put you in GP unless given a reason not to.


Why are you asking this? I know you said educational purposes but for what?

Hello P:

The U.S. government houses a number of convicted terrorists, gang leaders, spies and similar prisoners in a super max prison known as ADMAX, the Federal administrative maximum security prison in Florence, Colorado, west of Pueblo. Al-Qaeda terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui was sentenced to life without parole is at Florence. Residents also include Theodore Kaczynski, a terrorist otherwise known as the Unabomber who once attacked via mail bombs; Robert Hanssen, American FBI Agent turned Soviet spy; Terry Nichols, an accomplice to the Oklahoma City bombing; and Richard Reid, jailed for life for attempting to detonate explosive materials in his shoes while on board an aircraft.

It's more than one factor that'll get you sent there.

excon

PS> Neither the court nor the prison would be responsible for a convict who carries out his threats..

PPS> Course, MOST guys in supermax NEVER get out.

excon

I was just wondering if you can prevent a crime from being committed by doing what your going to do anyway if the person commits the crime why not just do it? I guess it's more of a moral/ethical question that a criminal law question.

However, since I am considering the best way for myself to get into solitary confinement with this "educational knowledge", it seems I am going to have to break some federal law then kill some guards or something. The only thing I am perplexed about is why would I have to do something that I said I was going to do, instead of people being able to take me on my word alone that if I have any contact with anyone then I will cause harm.

I don't know seems kind of screwed up to me/

The only thing I am perplexed about is why would I have to do something that I said I was going to do, instead of people being able to take me on my word alone that if I have any contact with anyone then I will cause harm.... I dunno seems kinda screwed up to me/Hello again, P:

In THIS country, you have to DO something to get sent to prison - not SAY you're going to do something... If we did that, there would be NOBODY left outside.

Talking about committing a crime won't get you there either. It'll land you in the psych ward...

excon

Hello again, P:

In THIS country, you have to DO something to get sent to prison - not SAY you're going to do something.... If we did that, there would be NOBODY left outside.

Talking about committing a crime won't get you there either. It'll land you in the psych ward...

excon

Very true. If words were punishable the streets would be empty (or close to it)

Does this have anything to do with your situation?

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/mental-emotional-health/dont-trust-myself-521903.html

Before anybody gets sent to a prison that you would like to go to they first must be in prison already and do something really bad like escape (or try to) or kill another inmate or guard, etc. You just can't go up to a Judge and ask him "Hey Judgie can I be sent to SuperMax because I think it would be neat to go there". Maybe in he movies or on TV but definitely NOT in real life.

Yea neat is not how I would describe it, however, to protect the public and myself from myself I think it would be a great idea. I don't necessarily think it would be fun or neat or that I would like it. I think I would hate it. However, I think it's the most responsible thing that I could do, I think it's where I belong and I hope I can convince other people of this as well without having to do anything illegal. I might end up either intentionally or unintentionally hurting myself or someone else and I would like to prevent that from happening.

All prisons have "lock down' and if you are a threat to yourself, they have mental health wings in most prisons, or special prison for mental health.

To get into the supper max you have to be so dangerous that regular prisons no longer believe they can safetly handle. You

Well is there a place that isn't a prison that you don't have to be dangerous to get into that would do the same thing as a super max?

Yes, you are a perfectionist; your writing gives you away (despite the consistently misspelled word).

Have you talked to your therapist about the supermax thing?

Have you talked to your therapist about committing yourself to a mental health facility?

I have been committed involuntarily to a mental health facility, very depressing place. I would never go back there, I would rather be treated like a criminal and be put in a super max prison than go back to a hospital. That is the whole point of this thread. Yea my spelling and grammar is bad I could do it right, I just don't care.

Yea my spelling and grammar is bad I could do it right, I just don't care.
Now you're puttin' me on. Your spelling and grammar have been nearly perfect (up until now, suddenly... hmmmmmm). Only one word has been consistent misspelled. Yes, you're a perfectionist.

So, what would solitary confinement do for you? Maybe your therapist could arrange a trial period of one week.

I have been committed involuntarily to a mental health facility,

May we ask what your diagnosis is? And why you think you should be treated like a criminal?

I agree you should seek some mental health assistance. If you are not going to do that and somehow feel that prison is a better option (bear in mind state mental health hospitals are usually
Built in the same manner, so will likely look the same inside (except for the bars).

Now, in answer to your original question, if you feel you will hurt someone, you could take a trip to afghanistan and find an al qaeda training camp, train (feel free to commit crimes there) then return to the US and turn yourself in. When you explain that you have given aid and comfort to the enemy you would be a candidate for federal prison and potentially a sumermax facility.

Supermax (even IF you were able to get into one, which you aren't) only warehouses you... its not going to do anything to help you with your underlying problem.

And I have no doubt you would really rather have your problem taken care of than be shoved into a warehouse and be forgotten. Otherwise you wouldn't still be here and breathing.

Yea this is a stupid question. I was diagnosed with depression they gave me sanorex which I took for 8 months a varying dosages with no effect. After that I was on prozac with the same result, and now I just got off zoloft with the same result. We are now discussing Melitor as the next drug but I'm tired of drugs I won't take MAOIs either. But that's not a discussion for this forum.

Also I would like to add, I am probably going to end up in the corner of some hospital being force fed downers all day, at least if I got put in a super max I would want to be there. I am always going to be liability to society, I will always be a little leach eating up the money the country doesn't have. It will be cheaper to be in prison than a state hospital. Eventually people will give up on me and forget about me, people can't just put their lives on hold to hold someone's hand, there is way too much going on for that. I really see it as the best solution taking into account everything.

Also I would like to add, I am probably gonna end up in the corner of some hospital being force fed downers all day
That sounds lovely. What does your therapist say?

Also I would like to add, I am probably gonna end up in the corner of some hospital being force fed downers all day, at least if I got put in a super max I would want to be there. I am always gonna be liability to society, I will always be a little leach eating up the money the country doesn't have. It will be cheaper to be in prison than a state hospital. Eventually people will give up on me and forget about me, people can't just put their lives on hold to hold someones hand, there is way too much going on for that. I really see it as the best solution taking into account everything.

And that is worse than being locked up in a cell alone forever without treatment exactly how?

Actually why should we waste our tax money putting you in some super max, it is 1000 or so a day to keep someone in super max, you get three opportunity to shower a day, you get to go exercise about 3 times a week for 30 min.

And you get to watch the walls.

You end up on the street if you don't want to take or find proper medication and go in and out of prison and mental health wards over the years. If you don't wish to try harder that is the real life you look forward to.

im tired of drugs I wont take MAOIs either. But that's not a discussion for this forum.
So what's the upshot if you refuse to try another drug?

So, start a new thread about MAOIs in the appropriate category.

That sounds lovely. What does your therapist say?

Tharpist dosen't really care what I have to say they all seem to want to talk about themselves all the time. That's why I am on my 10th psychologist/therapist/psychiatrist

Tharpist dosen't really care what I have to say they all seem to want to talk about themselves all the time. Thats why I am on my 10th psychologist/therapist/psychiatrist
Then find yourself a therapist who doesn't talk about himself. (I've never heard of such a thing. It's ethically wrong, actually.) Are you in or near a sizable city?

Tharpist dosen't really care what I have to say they all seem to want to talk about themselves all the time. Thats why I am on my 10th psychologist/therapist/psychiatrist
You and I both know that's not why you're on your 10th therapist.

Well the 3 psychiatrists I left after I finished my course on the meds the gave me, really a non issue. I have seen 1 psychologist but he moved his practice, and the 6 other therapists a few I just didn't like, two I can tell you for sure just wanted to talk about their experiences in life, the first two sessions we talked about me but we never finished it all just ended up being a waste of time, they kept getting phone calls and taking breaks, it was only an hour long, yawning all the time. So tell me what is it that you think I know, why does everyone have to be so cryptic.

Were these actual therapy sessions or just med checks? Many psychiatrists around here prescribe the meds and then refer the patient to a master's level therapist who meets with the patient/client once or twice a week. The psychiatrist and therapist stay in touch as med levels need adjusting. If a person goes to a psychologist, the psychologist will meet with this client at least once a week, but the psychologist had no prescription privileges, so, if meds are needed, has to send the client to an M.D. or psychiatrist.

the 6 other therapists a few I just didn't like
So you dumped six therapists. Six. Why really? You're not supposed to like your therapist.

they kept getting phone calls and taking breaks, it was only an hour long,
Sessions are for 50 minutes. During a session, therapists don't take phone calls or breaks. Where do you live generally that you ended up with all these incompetent mental health professionals?

Montana, probably why this state has the highest suicide rate per-capita in the country.