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candaceE
Dec 11, 2010, 01:50 PM
My tub has bubbled when toilet flushed,my toilet has bubbled when tub empties,toilet and tub bubble when using washer,cant flush toilet when draining tub water toilet won't go down.Tub drains very slowly,now we are standing it shower water just below ankles.Is my septic tank full,or is my vents plugged?

creahands
Dec 11, 2010, 06:12 PM
When was the last time u had septic cleaned?

If septic is full will give same as clogged drain on lower level tub/toilet /sink.

If septic had not been cleaned in past 2 yrs have that done.

If still have a problem, will have to snake vent from roof. Send in 20 feet more snake that is needed to reach lowest fixture.

After problem is cleared, treat sinks and tubs very other month with 1part vinegar to 2 parts warm water. Let sit overnight and flush with a gallon of boiling water in morning.

Good luck

Chuck

candaceE
Dec 12, 2010, 02:27 PM
We dug up septic,had it emptied,cleaned vents they were somewhat dirty.Septic was full, full full,been 3 yrs since last pump.When opening lid covers there was a bit of solid in the grey water tank,but not a whole lot,is that okay,or what should we do.Since having septic pumped and vents cleaned,water has run awesome,no more bubbles,flowing very well.Fingers crossed we have cured.have put vinegar in sinks,tub and toilet.

creahands
Dec 12, 2010, 03:10 PM
DO NOT PUT BOILING WATER IN TOILET. Just flush.
It could crack toilet.

When u treat other drains takes care of most of waste pipes.

Everything is fine as far as septic tank is concerned.

For a family of 4, normally clean septic every 2 yrs.

Good luck

Chuck

candaceE
Feb 9, 2011, 05:06 AM
When I flush my toilet it goes down,but then water onlty comes up to the neck of bowl.I have tried plunging,it works a little better,but stilll losing water.also gurgles in tub with flushing.

candaceE
Feb 9, 2011, 05:28 AM
I have just stood and watched toilet as it flushes so I can ask a more detailed question.
When I flush it all goes down quite well.again water in toilet bowl very low,therefore when I do flush it rises quite high,then drains,seems to drain with enough force,then it appears that bowl is going to fill properly,it fills then shortly thereafter it loses the water again,really no lapsed time,not slowly right away it loses.

candaceE
Feb 9, 2011, 07:19 AM
The water in my toilet bowl won't fill to proper height.The water in tank is at the water line.My toilet flushes,comes up high at first flush the goes down,the fills to proper level and no sooner drops to just fill neck of bottom of toilet bowl,and makes a little gurgley bubbley sound.
Is this a septic problem?Had septic emptied in December 2010,was very very full,there was a bit of solid in grey water,but has seemed to be fine,was told that a bit of solid in grey was okay.
Thus far this morning,there has been 3 showers,and multiple flushes,dishes done,etc.. no backing up,tub seems to empty fine,bathroom sink and kitchen sink as well so far fingers crossed.
Could it be plugged?Household of 5,and some feminie products being flushed as well.
Pipes very old,maybe narrowing?
Gosh hope there is a affordable way of fixing this prob,really can't affford a "pot to piss in " right now.Please help ASAP,thanks

candaceE
Feb 9, 2011, 08:26 AM
It says I have an answer to this question,but don't see one,haven't rec'd email either.Thanx

massplumber2008
Feb 9, 2011, 10:38 AM
HI Candace

It sounds like the toilet is partially clogged, or it could also be a vent pipe issue... maybe?

First, if you have lots of snow outside, go outside and check the roof and see if the plumbing vent that exits the roof is covered with snow. If it is snowcovered, then this could certainly cause your problem and the vent would need to be thawed/uncovered. This is unlikely, but it is easiest to check so start here.

If the vent is not covered then I suspect that the toilet may be partially clogged. Here, go to home depot and purchase a CLOSET AUGER tool (see image) and have an associate show you how to use it properly, OK? You will basically snake the toilet itself and see if you can free up whatever is causing your issue.

If this fails to fix your issue the next step would be to lift the toilet and see what is hung up at the outlet of the toilet... ;)

Questions? Let me know...

Mark

massplumber2008
Feb 9, 2011, 10:40 AM
HI Candace

It sounds like the toilet is partially clogged, or it could also be a vent pipe issue... maybe?

First, if you have lots of snow outside, go outside and check the roof and see if the plumbing vent that exits the roof is covered with snow. If it is snowcovered, then this could certainly cause your problem and the vent would need to be thawed/uncovered. This is unlikely, but it is easiest to check so start here.

If the vent is not covered then I suspect that the toilet may be partially clogged. Here, go to home depot and purchase a CLOSET AUGER tool (see image) and have an associate show you how to use it properly, OK? You will basically snake the toilet itself and see if you can free up whatever is causing your issue.

If this fails to fix your issue the next step would be to lift the toilet and see what is hung up at the outlet of the toilet...

Questions? Let me know...

Mark

candaceE
Feb 9, 2011, 11:01 AM
Tried to snake toilet,could not get it in.BUT,seems like there is more water staying in bowl now for some reason or other.The vents outside were just cleaned in December,but checked they look okay,god knows we have enuf snow out there.Will sit on it a bit,if not our answer we will contact you again.Thanx

candaceE
Feb 10, 2011, 12:23 PM
I haven't yet been able to obtain a toilet "auger",but husband tried a "snake",is this similar?I have poured salt and baking soda in all other drains,sink,tub,let it sit and added hot water,Also flushed some down toilet.The gurgling in tub and sink in bathroom still there with toilet flushing,the water comes to right height once and awhile,but then acts up again.I have searched other sites,and one said to pour a large pot of water into toilet bowl and if it flushes okay then it is not my vent.I poured a large pot of water into toilet bowl,it did nothing,wouldn't it have flushed from the rush of water being poured?So then I flushed toilet and water came up to rim,had to plunge down.. What do you think about that?Should I still try auger?Thanks Candace

candaceE
Feb 14, 2011, 05:06 PM
I remember the day I did laundry and my toilet made a loud gurgle.My toilet is on one side of house and washer on other,about 30 or more feet apart.my toilet has not been same since,it loses water if using washer,and will for couple hours afterwards.let it sit and works norm again.Thus far baths and showers or dishes in sink don't bother it.Could this be a venting issue?My "stink" pipe outside of house is really funky.it does not come out through roof,it actually comes out of exterior wall in around the toilet position,goes up a bit,and straight across probably at least 12 feet then back up towards roof,does not pass roof ,sits under fascia and soffit ,and ends in a 90 degree end.
Would the distance between washer and toilet cause a rush of water to take water out of toilet since it is so far apart.Should I move washer closer to washroom,in washroom |I have room.Should the venting be changed and what should it be like?
Septic prob or venting?

ballengerb1
Feb 14, 2011, 05:11 PM
It is most likely a partially clogged vent stack which terminates above your roof. The washer expels quite a bit of water rapidly and the vent stack can't vent enough air so your toilet tries to help by gurgling. Once the washer water slows down and finishes its drain it can then also siphon water out of your toilet. Best to rod the stack from the roff with enough snake to reach roof top to basement floor plus 20'. This is no safe thing to do in cold climates this time of the year, I have 1' of snow on mine right now

candaceE
Feb 15, 2011, 07:12 AM
My vent pipe does not terminate at or above my roof,it ends just under fascia,and ends with a 90 degree piping.
This is how it looks:it comes out on exterior wall,in around the washroom area,goes up about 3 feet,then turns and runs straight across along exterior wall about 10-12 feet,then goes back up towards roof and ends under fascia,with an end piece at 90 degrees.
|So when I drain tub water toilet gurgles as well,does not rise up or lower.Just lowers when washer draining.And will take few hours for toilet to return to norm after using washer.
Should I change my vent pipe to go straight up?It would be very difficult to rod pipe with all these twists and turns don't you think?
As well since my laundry room and bathroom is so far apart,would it not be best if I moved washer to bathroom?Do you thinkthe distance has anything to do with it?since washer pipe runs across house and then out,at least 30-40 feet or more to septic.

ballengerb1
Feb 15, 2011, 02:42 PM
Where do you live and how old is the home? This is not code by USA standards

candaceE
Feb 15, 2011, 03:01 PM
After doing three loads of laundry this afternoon,my toilet empties very slowly,this will happen for about an hour or so after washer use,along with the probs above continuing.

candaceE
Feb 17, 2011, 05:46 AM
Things are pretty much same here.Use washer toilet gurgles,empty tub toilet gurgles.Toilet bowl water won't stya at proper height.Bought toilet auger,augered toilet couple times,nothing.Poured CLR septic in drains and toilet,nothing,plunged still same.Purchased wax ring seal,and brother coming today to change and check for blockage there.Bought one cheater vent,he will also do that today at some point.
Didn't pour water down vent because I cant,my venting is very funky,I would have to cut top off,and it comes out of house alongside of exterior wall twisting and turning two times,before going straight up and doesn't pass fascia and soffit ends just under lip of roof at a 90 degree angle.
So if it isn't any of this,what would you suggest? Please help!

candaceE
Feb 17, 2011, 08:07 AM
Okay,it started last week,when washing machine was emptying,my toilet would gurgle,then when the washing machine would empty,it would gurgle and water wouldn't stay at bowl re',just in neck of bowl.Now when letting water out of tub,toilet gurgles,same when draining dishwater,once I pull plugs toilet gurgles.Showering doesn't seem to bother it,running water in sink and it goes down drain doesn't seem to bother it.
Tried toilet auger,CLR septic... nothing worked.
Any helps hints,septic system or venting prob?

Curlyben
Feb 17, 2011, 08:12 AM
>MULTIPLE threads merged<

Please stick to ONE thread for this ongoing issue.

massplumber2008
Feb 17, 2011, 09:30 AM
HI Candace...

This issue is months old now...

I think it is time to call a plumber or an experienced handyman in... don't you?

Good luck!

Mark