Hi, I believe my Doctor knows about a crime committed against me but he is not willing to confesses this to me. I beleve he is withholding important information that would prove my case. Can my Doctor withhold information from me in this way? What can I do to get this information from him?
Regards
Roland

Doctors are bound by very strict laws of privacy. There are situations in which they must report what they believe are crimes, but to authorities only. Your lawyer should tell you all about this.

Hi joypulv, thanks for the response... I realise what I am about to say may be difficult to believe, but for argument sake lets just say its true for now... the crime I mentioned in my first post is police harassment by way of them stalking me and erroneously informing members of my community about me, which in turn caused them (community members) to act differently towards me by way of close scrutiny when ever I am out shopping or visiting my Doctors surgery. As a result of this treatment, I made a complaint of police harassment to my Doctor by way of a letter which was read out to him before I handed the letter to my Doctor, but he did not accept my letter and did not record what I told him on his computer. The fact that I was being treated differently in my Doctor's surgery, coupled with him not accepting my letter or recording what I told him on computer, makes me believe that he does know what has been going on concerning the police harassment, but when I asked through a "freedom of information" letter if he had been in consultation with the police about me, he said no and made some jovial jestures at me. However, I believe my Doctor is not telling the truth and is withholding important information that I need to prove my case... what can I do in this situation?
Many thanks, roland

First, any question on law needs to include your general locale as laws vary by area.

Second, there is NOTHING you can do if your doctor doesn't want to tell you. If your case gets to court, your attorney can subpoena the doctor and question him in court.

You are out of the US? Doctor's surgery isn't commonly used in the US.
Roland, you are in areas of thoughts and feelings rather than physical injury or illness, so I'm wondering why you would be presenting your case to a doctor?
I'm not saying doctors don't break confidence, because it has happened to me. Years ago our small town older MD called the house with my Lyme disease test result and gave it to one of my elderly parents, and I hadn't want my mother to know because sure enough, she immediately demanded that I get rid of my dog.
I'm addressing the suspicions rather than legal matters. It can be devastating to feel stalked and treated differently without proof. Your doctor has said no, he told no one, and you need to accept that unless you have evidence otherwise. If he is a psychologist or psychiatrist, he spent years of extra schooling for the sole purpose of helping, not hurting. His jovial manner may have been meant to calm your fears, but perhaps you can ask him to talk it out.

Hi, I believe my Doctor knows about a crime committed against me but he is not willing to confesses this to me. Hello Roland:

If you're the victim of a crime, call the cops. Maybe he'll confess to them.

excon

Hi joypulv, yes I am in the uk. I presented my case to my doctor because the magnitude of what was happening was overwhelming and led to me having to go on anti-depressant tablets in October and by december/january I started to get treated differently by surgery staff including my doctor as a result I believe of them being erroneously informed about me so I felt forced into making a complaint to my doctor about what was happening. I hoped that this would help to stop what was happening and make them realise that the police were telling lies about me as part of a conspiracy against me. But the fact that my doctor is not confirming to me that he has been in consultation with the police about me and I was treated differently in the sugery makes me believe he has probably been silienced by the police or is afraid to comment because of who is involved (i.e. the police) and is therefore indirectly involved in the conspiracy himself. Another reason I am suspicious of my doctor is because he recently told me that I could be schizophrenic and sent me to see a psychiatrist. After a 6 month period of assessments and because I was co-hearse into talking I decided to confide in my psychiatrist and told him of my complaint of police harassment. However, he wrote in his assessment letter that I am suffering from paraniod psychosis without any investigation into what I told him etc... I do not believe this diagnosis is correct and my doctor can confirm what I am saying as I believe he does know but is not saying anything. The psychiatrist assessment letter also unnecessarily highlights that I was 30 minutes late to his appointment... as if to impugn my integrity in some way... even after the reason for my lateness was discussed with him... the letter is also threatening to section me under the mental health act. I believe this is all very unfair... and if there is really nothing I can do about this, then I believe there is a fundamental flaw in the law that needs to be addressed... because in my experience doctors are no saint's/angels and they do break the law... but from the feedback I am getting so far, it appears that doctors can get away with the most terrible of crimes... I would like to know the slightest of things that I can do in this situation to help me get my doctor in a court of law such that he can be questioned? I appreciate all comments; kind regards, roland

I'm sorry but a psychiatrist is not obligated to play detective. They can make an assessment based on their talks with you. I'm also sorry to tell you that, based on your posts here, a diagnosis of paranoia is not a stretch.

Now I grant that you have not presented any proof to substantiate your claims of harassment. I don't know whether such proof exists or not, nor would I expect you post them here because we have no way to verify them.

But you are making accusations against your doctor, solely on feelings you have about a change in the way you have been treated. You asked a question and your doctor answered with a No. That doesn't mean he has committed any crime.

The way I see it you have four options that are not mutually exclusive.

1) Take your case to the regional police authorities or even go as high as Scotland Yard. Ask that your claims be fully investigated.
2) Take your case to a local or regional prosecutor again asking for a complete investigation.
3) Retain a solicitor to advise you on what to do with your case.
4) Retain a private investigator to assemble a case for you.

And why are you focusing only on your doctor? If you are right he's just one piece of the conspiracy. Another thing you haven't mentioned is WHY you have been targeted for this police harassment. I don't deny the police are capable of harassing someone, but I doubt if they would just target someone without any reason.

Unless you have some absolute proof, like people telling you that the police said this or that about you, then its not hard to see paranoia here.

The drugs you are presently taking are not helping you but only making whatever paranoia you have much worse. Consider this an unwanted side effect of the meds and nothing more. No one is more than likely acting any differently towards you - it's your perception of their actions being different now that you are taking meds.

Ok guys, thank you very much for the input, I'm going to start putting a grievance together in the hope that I could extract some flaws to support my claims. All the best, roland

Ok guys, thank you very much for the input, i'm going to start putting a grievance together in the hope that I could extract some flaws to support my claims. All the best, roland

Good luck and keep us posted. We are still willing to help and advise you along the way.

Hello

In a recent consultation meeting with my GP, I verbally told him that I believe he is withholding information from me and is therefore involved in a conspiracy against me. Because I told him this, can he refuse to look at/investigate my grievance?

Well, to me GP means general practitioner, so is this your doctor you have the grievance with ? And what is the conspiracy ? Can you give us more information?

Tick

Because I told him this, can he refuse to look at/investigate my grievance?Hello r:

He is under no obligation to investigate your claims. He can also drop you as a patient, and I'll bet he does.

excon

I've merged your threads. Please don't start a new thread over the same issue. This causes some of us to waste our time not knowing the previous correspondence.

Why would your GP be investigating your grievance? Unless your grievance is that you have not been given proper medical treatment by ANOTHER physician, your GP has no investigatory powers at all.

If you have a grievance with YOUR physician over his treatment of your health issues, then you take it to the local medical board or a malpractice attorney.

But that doesn't appear to be the case from your previous correspondence.

If you want an investigation into your claims, then hire a private detective to compile evidence that would support those claims.

I've merged your threads. Please don't start a new thread over the same issue. This causes some of us to waste our time not knowing the previous correspondence.

Why would your GP be investigating your grievance? Unless your grievance is that you have not been given proper medical treatment by ANOTHER physician, your GP has no investigatory powers at all.

If you have a grievance with YOUR physician over his treatment of your health issues, then you take it to the local medical board or a malpractice attorney.

But that doesn't appear to be the case from your previous correspondence.

If you want an investigation into your claims, then hire a private detective to compile evidence that would support those claims.

Ok thank you.
Roland

Your doctor has no control over what the police does, and in fact if you feel the police are harassing you, a doctor has no power at all to do anything. He does have a obligation if he feels you are a danger to yourself or others, to actually give this information to the authorities.

Plus to be honest you have provided no clear information as to what is happening, as to what type of problems, or even what this poor doctor that is trying to help you is accused of doing.

Your doctor has no control over what the police does, and in fact if you feel the police are harrassing you, a doctor has no power at all to do anything. He does have a obligation if he feels you are a danger to yourself or others, to actually give this information to the authorities.

Plus to be honest you have provided no clear informatoin as to what is happening, as to what type of problems, or even what this poor doctor that is trying to help you is accused of doing.

OK, thank you. I will get back when I put a concise statement together as my issue is somewhat long winded; hence I was just trying to get some facts in bits. I just wanted to know if my grievance can be refused because of what I verbally told my doctor because I was told by a lawyer that I should not mention court proceedings in my grievance as they can use this to refuse an investigation into my grievance.

Regards
Roland

I'm sorry but a psychiatrist is not obligated to play detective. They can make an assessment based on their talks with you. I'm also sorry to tell you that, based on your posts here, a diagnosis of paranoia is not a stretch.

Now I grant that you have not presented any proof to substantiate your claims of harassment. I don't know whether such proof exists or not, nor would I expect you post them here because we have no way to verify them.

But you are making accusations against your doctor, solely on feelings you have about a change in the way you have been treated. You asked a question and your doctor answered with a No. That doesn't mean he has committed any crime.

The way I see it you have four options that are not mutually exclusive.

1) Take your case to the regional police authorities or even go as high as Scotland Yard. Ask that your claims be fully investigated.
2) Take your case to a local or regional prosecutor again asking for a complete investigation.
3) Retain a solicitor to advise you on what to do with your case.
4) Retain a private investigator to assemble a case for you.

And why are you focusing only on your doctor? If you are right he's just one piece of the conspiracy. Another thing you haven't mentioned is WHY you have been targeted for this police harassment. I don't deny the police are capable of harassing someone, but I doubt if they would just target someone without any reason.

Unless you have some absolute proof, like people telling you that the police said this or that about you, then its not hard to see paranoia here.

Hello again

I called my GP's surgery to ask them to send me a copy of their complaints procedure. I was refused a copy of their complaints proceudre unless I collected it in person or provided a self-addressed envelope. Is this right?

... he recently told me that I could be schizophrenic
...my psychiatrist ... wrote in his assessment letter that I am suffering from paraniod psychosis ...

That says it all. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=AK lawyer;2758264]That says it all. :rolleyes:[/QUOT

What do u mean?

Hello again
. Is this right?

Yes, this is the proper procedure.

Tick

[QUOTE=AK lawyer;2758264]That says it all. :rolleyes:[/QUOT

What do u mean?

I believe AK means that from your previous posts, it would indicate that you are very paranoid; therefore probably suffering this affliction. At least I think AK means that because I would honestly say that from your meanderings, you are quite upset with a lot of issues therefore, paranoid.

Tick

[QUOTE=rolandprecilla;2758268]

i believe AK means that from your previous posts, it would indicate that you are very paranoid; therefore probably suffering this affliction. At least I think AK means that because I would honestly say that from your meanderings, you are quite upset with a lot of issues therefore, paranoid.

tick

Ok, thank you.

Roland, I read a post of yours indicating you would to get your doctor into a court of law. This will never happen. Your doctor is governed by the College of Physicians and Surgeons. Any complaint you have against your doctor has to be addressed to them specifically. If they feel your complaint is valid, they will investigate within their own private sector.

You don't seem to appreciate that your doctor is governed by the Hypocratic Oath of not divulging any information about his clients. I assure you, they follow this oath.

This was post no. 7 to joy.

Tick

Roland, I read a post of yours indicating you would to get your doctor into a court of law. This will never happen. Your doctor is governed by the College of Physicians and Surgeons. Any complaint you have against your doctor has to be addressed to them specifically. If they feel your complaint is valid, they will investigate within their own private sector

This was post no. 7 to joy.

tick

Can you give me anymore information on this please as I live in the UK and not familiar with who the College of psysicians are. I am currently going through my GP's complaints procedure where once completed if I am not satisfied, I intend to ask the UK's Health Care Ombudsman to investigate my case. If you know this organization, are they the same as the college of pysicians etc?

Can you give me anymore information on this please as I live in the UK and not familiar with who the College of psysicians are. I am currently going through my GP's complaints procedure where once completed if i am not satisfied, i intend to ask the UK's Health Care Ombudsman to investigate my case. If you know this organization, are they the same as the college of pysicians etc?

I only know what they are called here in Ontario. The College of Physicians and Surgeons, so I am assuming they are the same in the UK, yes the College of Physicians. Any complaint about a doctor has to be directed to them, but if you pursue this, you will soon be left with a GP and I think they are as hard to get in UK as they are in Canada.

I only know what they are called here in Ontario. the College of Physicians and Surgeons, so I am assuming they are the same in the UK, yes the College of Physicians. Any complaint about a doctor has to be directed to them, but if you pursue this, you will soon be left with a GP and I think they are as hard to get in UK as they are in Canada.

Thank you

I think tickle meant you will be left without a GP.
I'm going off the legal track. You may very well be viewed differently by people in the doctor's office, if you are ready to see something wrong with everything. When my doctor spilled the beans, I wasn't happy, but people do make mistakes. We stew, we complain, and then we drop that person or drop the complaint. I had a provable complaint, but it wasn't big enough to do anything about. If it was a solid and serious case, I'd pursue it. You don't have a provable case. It's in your best interest to let it go.

People change doctors all the time when they are dissatisfied. Feel free to do so, if you can.

I think tickle meant you will be left without a GP.
I'm going off the legal track. You may very well be viewed differently by people in the doctor's office, if you are ready to see something wrong with everything. When my doctor spilled the beans, I wasn't happy, but people do make mistakes. We stew, we complain, and then we drop that person or drop the complaint. I had a provable complaint, but it wasn't big enough to do anything about. If it was a solid and serious case, I'd pursue it. You don't have a provable case. It's in your best interest to let it go.

People change doctors all the time when they are dissatisfied. Feel free to do so, if you can.

Hello

I submitted a letter of complaint to my Doctor. I was invited to attend a meeting with them on 4 April and took an advocate with me.

Before attending the meeting with my Doctor, I had a meeting with the advocate. During the meeting with the Advocate on 24 March, I was asked if I had any questions for my Doctor prior to the meeting on 4 April. I handed a letter (with question) to the Advocate which was communicated to the hospital. However, this question was not answered in my Doctors response letter dated 12 April received 20 April.

During the same meeting with the Advocate, I asked her to enquire with the my Doctors/hospital as to what to expect (i.e questions) at the meeting on 4 April such that I could prepare for it. This was also communicated, but I did not receive a response to my request. Nevertheless, I attended the meeting with my Doctor and was informed that he wanted clarification on what my complaint was about. I told him it was about inaccurate information recorded about me and incorrect medical diagnosis. Furthermore, on 11 April I delivered another letter to the hospital in order to fully clarify what my complaint was about. The letter also asked a question of my Doctor but which was not answered in my Doctor's response letter.

I would like to know is it right that my request on what to expect at the meeting (i.e questions) was not responded to? Also, is it right that my additional questions (2 of) were not acknowledged/answered in my Doctor's response letter?

What's right and what's legal are two different things. Did the advocate indicate that the doctor had to answer your complaints?

Did you detail what info was inaccurate and what diagnosis was incorrect?

What's right and what's legal are two different things. Did the advocate indicate that the doctor had to answer your complaints?

Did you detail what info was inaccurate and what diagnosis was incorrect?

No, the advocate did not indicate anything except to ask if I had any questions. Yes, I did detail what was inaccurate and incorrect.

The Physician has spoken - he has said you are suffering from (your words) "paraniod psychosis." Why would he, believing this diagnosis, get involved in a matter which very well is all in your imagination.

He became a Physician to help people, not to get involved in lawsuits and Police matters.

I don't know how you present yourself in person. On this Board I think you are rambling, sometimes almost incoherent, very difficult to understand.

So let me get this straight. The doctor asked you to clarify what your complaint was about. You answered with a detailed explanation. Did the doctor respond during this April 4 meeting at all? Apparently he did respond by letter, but not to your satisfaction?

For us to provide any help we need some idea of what went on in the meeting and letters. Not details but specifics.

From previous posts it looks like you will never be satisfied by anything the doctor says unless it jives with your view. So we need to know how the doctor responded. If he said simply that he does not believe the info you think was inaccurate IS inaccurate or the diagnosis was correct. Then that's probably the end of it.

The Physician has spoken - he has said you are suffering from (your words) "paraniod psychosis." Why would he, believing this diagnosis, get involved in a matter which very well is all in your imagination.

He became a Physician to help people, not to get involved in lawsuits and Police matters.

I don't know how you present yourself in person. On this Board I think you are rambling, sometimes almost incoherent, very difficult to understand.

Thank you

So let me get this straight. The doctor asked you to clarify what your complaint was about. You answered with a detailed explanation. Did the doctor respond during this April 4 meeting at all? Apparently he did respond by letter, but not to your satisfaction?

For us to provide any help we need some idea of what went on in the meeting and letters. Not details but specifics.

From previous posts it looks like you will never be satisfied by anything the doctor says unless it jives with your view. So we need to know how the doctor responded. If he said simply that he does not believe the info you think was inaccurate IS inaccurate or the diagnosis was correct. Then that's probably the end of it.

After I told the doctor what my complaint was about (during the 4 April meeting), he did not respond by saying the info was not inaccurate or the diagnosis was not incorrect. In fact, I don't remember him saying anything about this during the meeting.

In his response letter, he said I could sit down with his team to correct (in my opinion) any inaccurate information or "...to try and find a solution for differences in opinion..." concerning the statements recorded about me, but the letter does not mention anything about incorrect diagnosis.

I would also like to know if it was right that my request on what to expect at the meeting (such that I could have prepared for it) was not responded to? Because as stated in my previous post, after the meeting (on 11 April) I submitted a letter to fully clarify what my complaint was about which also as asked a question of my doctor. However, this letter/question has not been acknowledged/answered in the doctor's response letter. Is this right?

In his response letter, he said I could sit down with his team to correct (in my opinion) any inaccurate information or "...to try and find a solution for differences in opinion..." concerning the statements recorded about me, but the letter does not mention anything about incorrect diagnosis.


What the heck more do you want? The doctor is offering that you come into his office and work with his staff to correct anything you don't agree with. This seems to me to be a reasonable offer.

I think you are way overboard on this. The doctor seems to be offering some compromise. You need to step back and try to work with him.

There is no "right" here, there is what's legal.

What the heck more do you want? The doctor is offering that you come into his office and work with his staff to correct anything you don't agree with. This seems to me to be a reasonable offer.

I think you are way overboard on this. The doctor seems to be offering some compromise. You need to step back and try to work with him.

There is no "right" here, there is what's legal.

I agree that he is offering to compromise on the statements recorded about me but he does not mention the incorrect diagnosis which is my main complaint. Is he willing to correct his diagnosis is the question here as I believe it is incorrect.

The question asked in my letter which was delivered to him on 11 April states;

"...Given all the correct information provided, does Dr name still believe his diagnosis of paranoid psychosis?..."

This question has not been acknowledged/answered in the response letter. So what does that mean?

It means he's tired of arguing with you and is standing on his credentials.

It means he's tired of arguing with you and is standing on his credentials.

Thank you

I have conclusive evidence that I have been given an incorrect diagnosis and my medical records have been falsified;

Evidence

I have recorded evidence that the statements made about me are false etc.
There is no evidence to support the diagnosis
I have written evidence from a doctor that the diagnosis is incorrect
The Trust has refused to answer my outstanding question concerning the diagnosis

However, I am finding it difficult to get a solicitor to advise me.

Is there anything I can do to get my case to court?

[QUOTE=rolandprecilla;2847087]
The Trust has refused to answer my outstanding question concerning the diagnosis

However, I am finding it difficult to get a solicitor to advise me.

Is there anything I can do to get my case to court?[/QUOTE

Who is the Trust, is that similar to the College of Physicians and Surgeons here in Canada? Probably you are having a problem finding a solicitor to take your case (and I am basing this on this WHOLE THREAD) is because you do not have a case, rollandprecilla. Your assumptions are incorrect, your assumptions do not hold water that is why you can't find a solicitor.

So, facing that, no, without a solicitor you can't get your case to court unless in the British court system you can represent yourself without solicitor, and in that case, you wouldn't have a chance because you really haven't got a leg to stand on.

You have been going on about this since November of last year.

Tick

[QUOTE=rolandprecilla;2847087]
The Trust has refused to answer my outstanding question concerning the diagnosis

However, I am finding it difficult to get a solicitor to advise me.

Is there anything I can do to get my case to court?[/QUOTE

Who is the Trust, is that similar to the College of Physicians and Surgeons here in Canada? Probably you are having a problem finding a solicitor to take your case (and i am basing this on this WHOLE THREAD) is because you do not have a case, rollandprecilla. Your assumptions are incorrect, your assumptions do not hold water that is why you can't find a solicitor.

So, facing that, no, without a solicitor you can't get your case to court unless in the British court system you can represent yourself without solicitor, and in that case, you wouldnt have a chance because you really havent got a leg to stand on.

You have been going on about this since November of last year.

tick

Yes I have been going on about this since last year, but only just realised that in fact I have a very strong case - based on a "breach of common law duty" regarding the diagnosis. So thank you for your encouraging message.

[QUOTE=tickle;2847103]

Yes I have been going on about this since last year, but only just realised that in fact I have a very strong case - based on a "breach of common law duty" regarding the diagnosis. So thank you for your encouraging message.


My 'encouraging message' was not meant to be facetious, it is fact, but I think you are answered out here and no further suggestions can be offered as you refuted all that was offered by our knowledgeable experts. So what is the point. Just do what you have to do, go to court with or without and get it over with and stop dithering about it.

Tick

If you really had a strong case, they why do you think no one will take it? Frankly, I think you have built this up in your mind to the point that you refuse to accept the facts.

If you really had a strong case, they why do you think no one will take it? Frankly, I think you have built this up in your mind to the point that you refuse to accept the facts.

Indeed I believe I have a strong case. The reason no one will take it is simply called "conflict of interest" because it involves the police.

The same applies to all responses received on this website, although I do appreciate them because the fact is victory is still guaranteed.

Indeed I believe I have a strong case. The reason no one will take it is simply called "conflict of interest" because it involves the police. Hello r:

We get small town people here all the time telling us that lawyers won't take their cases because the lawyers are afraid of the local powers...

Of course, that's NUTS. Lawyers LOVE to sue the establishment... That's what they do. They exploit conflict. That's HOW they make their living.

If you're telling us the same thing, that's nuts too.

excon

Hello r:

We get small town people here all the time telling us that lawyers won't take their cases because the lawyers are afraid of the local powers...

Of course, that's NUTS. Lawyers LOVE to sue the establishment... That's what they do. They exploit conflict. That's HOW they make their living.

If you're telling us the same thing, that's nuts too.

excon

As mentioned previously, the encouragement is much appreciated... next?