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cleejones61
Sep 7, 2010, 05:24 PM
And didn't sign any court paper.

ScottGem
Sep 7, 2010, 05:28 PM
Let me put it this way. If a man fathered a child then he is required to support that child.

It matters not whether he married the mother or whether he didn't sign the birth certificate or acknowledgment of paternity.

If he dips his wick, he pays the price.

J_9
Sep 7, 2010, 05:28 PM
OMG, you are really going to get some heated comments here. This opens up a big can of worms with a lot of people.

Of course he should pay child support! He put his erect penis into a woman's vagina. He ejected sperm that made contact with an egg.

The child is 50% his and he should be 50% responsible to PAY for that child.

In the end, not only "should" he pay, but he is OBLIGATED to pay.

I sure hope you aren't the father of this child.

cdad
Sep 7, 2010, 05:42 PM
Have you been declared the legal father or is this a judgement by default?

Enigma1999
Sep 7, 2010, 06:28 PM
Yes, you have to pay child support, even if your name is NOT on the birth certificate, or if you are NOT married.

I don't know your situation.

Is she (the Mother) requesting that you pay? Which, if you are the Father, you should pay.

GV70
Sep 7, 2010, 07:07 PM
Yes, you have to pay child support, even if your name is NOT on the birth certificate, or if you are NOT married.
Are you sure??
Because I am not:)

Legally-if he :
1 is not married to the mother
2 has never signed Acknowledgment of paternity
3 was not adjudicated as the father

He is not obligated to pay child support.
Another question is whether it is moral or not.

Fr_Chuck
Sep 7, 2010, 07:10 PM
First being married is not a requirement to owe child support, even a married father, does not owe the support till it is declared owed by the court.

But marriage has little bearing, unless the women was married to someone else when child was born.
It is not a easy always, since it is not always

Did not sign, many never sign, they don't show up in court, but the mother of the child goes to court and gets a court order.

And before he pays, he has the right to ask for his day in court.

Enigma1999
Sep 7, 2010, 08:11 PM
Are you sure???
Because I am not:)

Legally-if he :
1 is not married to the mother
2 has never signed Acknowledgment of paternity
3 was not adjudicated as the father

He is not obligated to pay child support.
Another question is whether it is moral or not.

Let's say the mother was going after child support, and the court would issue a paternity test, and the results came back that he was the father, then he would have to pay child support?

DG
Sep 7, 2010, 08:14 PM
I don't know why a man wouldn't want to support his children.
Unless he isn't a man.

GV70
Sep 7, 2010, 08:30 PM
Let's say the mother was going after child support, and the court would issue a paternity test, and the results came back that he was the father, then he would have to pay child support?

Yup! Then he has to be adjudicated as the legal father, he will have all rights and obligations incl. to make child support payments.

ScottGem
Sep 8, 2010, 04:12 AM
Yup! Then he has to be adjudicated as the legal father, he will have all rights and obligations incl. to make child support payments.

Yes, a father is not LEGALLY obligated to pay support unless he has been acknowledged as the legal father and a support order has been issued. But once that happens, he will be. And it doesn't always take the mother to apply for support. If the mother needs public assistance, the state will go after the father.

Synnen
Sep 8, 2010, 05:29 AM
Let's put it this way:

If you had sex with a woman, and you are afterwards proven to be the father--whether or not you were married to her or sign an acknowledgment of paternity--you should DEFINITELY have to pay child support.

What the hell is with a society that thinks they can do whatever they want and not have to pay for it? I'm seriously sick of having to pay, as a taxpayer, for the support of children of idiots who can't keep their pants on.

GV70
Sep 8, 2010, 07:17 AM
Let's put it this way:

If you had sex with a woman, and you are afterwards proven to be the father--whether or not you were married to her or sign an acknowledgment of paternity--you should DEFINITELY have to pay child support.
Please feel free to educate me. I will be thankful if you cite the law,

GV70
Sep 8, 2010, 07:20 AM
I'm seriously sick of having to pay, as a taxpayer, for the support of children of idiots who can't keep their pants on.

Again- I have never said that legal means fair and equitable. That's the law.

Synnen
Sep 8, 2010, 07:34 AM
Meh... the OP asked if they SHOULD have to pay child support. And yes, yes they should --if there is reasonable belief that they are the biological parent.

If no paternity is established, there is obviously no way to make a person pay child support. Not signing affirmation of paternity and not being married doesn't mean that paternity hasn't been established. It just means that the man involved didn't VOLUNTARILY establish his own paternity.

We obviously need more information here--but if paternity HAS been established by the courts, and a child support order was issued, then the OP does HAVE to pay child support.

If no child support order exists, and no paternity was established, but the OP believes he MAY be the father, then he SHOULD pay child support. That doesn't mean he HAS to, without a court order, but he SHOULD.

GV70
Sep 8, 2010, 07:54 PM
but the OP believes he MAY be the father, then he SHOULD pay child support. That doesn't mean he HAS to, without a court order, but he SHOULD.

I thought it was a legal board about family law and the question had to be read as."Should a man legally have to pay CS if he...."

Sure I was mistaken.

twinkiedooter
Sep 9, 2010, 05:48 PM
Yes he should pay child support especially when a Judge orders him to pay it.

GeorgeMcCasland
Sep 10, 2010, 08:19 PM
Yes, retroactive (http://child_support-retroactive.dads-house.org/)up to 18 years worth. Depending on the state, he can wait until the child turns age 23 to identify you and file. In most states it's up to the age of majority of the child for the mother to file, and the child can file for one year more, or up to the state limit. The age of Majority in Mississippi is 21. In Ohio, the age of majority is 18, but they allow filings up until the child is age 23. The average retroactive amount is 5 years. Some states don't allow any, while other allow the Full Monty.

If she hasn't moved on this, you need to. Provided you are sure this is your child, you can file a voluntary child support order (http://www.pueblo.gsa.gov/cic_text/family/childenf/noncustodial.htm#directly), or at the minimum, file to determine if you are the father (http://ch07d-paternity-completing_order_request.dads-house.org/).

Child support guideline amounts are not mandatory. They can be higher, OR LOWER, than the guidelines, through the use of a Rebuttable Presumption (http://child_support-rebuttable_presumption.dads-house.org/).

You cannot let this lay. You will only be setting yourself for a major fall later on. Also, even while paying child support, you will still have no Parental Rights (http://ch07b-paternity-single_fathers_rights.dads-house.org/) to the child. This is a separate issue.