Isn't it amazing that, within only one week of Tiger Woods crashing his Escalade, the press found every woman with whom Tiger has had an affair during the last few years? And, they even uncovered photos, text messages, recorded phone calls, etc. Furthermore, they not only know the cause of the family fight, but they even know it was a wedge from his golf bag that his wife used to break out the windows in the Escalade. Not only that, they know which wedge! And, each & every day, they continue to provide America with updates on Tiger's sex rehab stay, his wife's plans for divorce, as well as the dates & tournaments in which he will play.

Now, Barack Hussein Obama has been in office for a year-and-a-half, yet this very same press:

Cannot find any of his childhood friends or neighbors;
Or find any of Obama's high school or college classmates;
Or locate any of his college papers or grades;
Or determine how he paid for both a Columbia & a Harvard education;
Or discover which country issued his visa to travel to Pakistan in the 1980's;
Or even find Michelle Obama's Princeton thesis on racism.
They just can't seem to uncover any of this.
Yet, the public still trusts that same press to give them the whole truth and nothing but the truth!
Simply amazing, isn't it??

Seems that the Code of Ethics that journalists follow is voluntary:

Society of Professional Journalists: SPJ Code of Ethics (http://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp)

They volunteered to report all the details on a golfer, and, apparently, have not volunteered to report on POTUS or his spouse.

As an attempt to offset the poor, or lack of, good truthful reporting, this has recently started:

The Blaze (http://www.theblaze.com/)

I will let everyone figure out on their own who is backing this.

Hello smoothy:

Look... I'll admit it. It's been a left wing conspiracy, but I'll divulge it, just this once. Barrack Hussein Obama is a cyborg. We GREW him from a lump of clay. He HAS no history. He HAS no passport. He HAS no birth certificate. He IS a foreigner, all right. He's not like you and me. He's different..

We're running things now, and, he's coming to get you.

excon

It's truly amazing the amount of power we lefties have. The righties have no match for it.

So... do you think anyone trying to find Obamas school records proving or disproving the lefts claims about him being "The smartest President we've ever had" which remains totally unsubstantiated would be worthy of jail time or huge punitive fines? When every other president or candidate has publicly released those records.

And there is a very good reason I'm asking that... because people HAVE been arrested, charged, and are awaiting sentencing for trying to find that information out... 9 people in all, only one has yet to be tried of that bunch 8 were convicted. And they may face $100,000 dollar fines and a year in jail... each, for trying to find these records that should rightfully be public information for an elected official.

Why are his school records such an issue of national security? Because after all, the left portrays him as something he clearly isn't... which ammounts to false advertising.

Can you link us to Bush's school records? And Reagan's?

"The smartest President we've ever had"
Will you believe and accept the information when you see it in front of you?

And there is a very good reason I'm asking that....because people HAVE been arrested, charged, and are awaiting sentencing for trying to find that information out....9 people in all, a few have yet to be tried of that bunch.Hello again, smoothy:

I'd LOVE to hear about that. Please link us to it. People have been arrested for investigating Obama's past?? Is that what you're saying?? Cool. Show me.

excon

I'm getting out the popcorn - this is getting good!
http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/Smileys/classic/popcorn.gif

Will you believe and accept the information when you see it in front of you?

I haven't seen any evidence of intelligence in the Whitehouse in the last 19 months. And Certainly none that Obama actually got a passing grade.

The man is totally clueless about simple economics.

Regarding college, the myth that no one can find any of his classmates is just that - a myth. See: snopes.com: Barack Obama at Columbia (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbia.asp)

As for how did he pay for school - both he and Michelle took advantage of scholarships (which at Ivy League institutions are all need-based and not based on grades or scholastic achievement) and lots of student loans. See: snopes.com: Where Did Obama's Money Come From? (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp)

I don't know why he hasn't authorized release of his college transcripts - I would guess they aren't very good.

Smoothy - there is plenty to criticize in Obama's record, but dragging up silly aqnd unsubstantiated conspiracy theories just hurts the credibility of those of us on the right.

Hello again, smoothy:

I'd LOVE to hear about that. Please link us to it. People have been arrested for investigating Obama's past???? Is that what you're saying???? Cool. Show me.

excon

Article in the Washington post buried in one of the inner pages and only attributed to -From News services was either 28 or 29 of August, think it was Saturday the 28... I have it cut out and in front of me.. here is a link

washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/27/AR2010082705024.html)

Third article up from the bottom.

Tell me any of them deserve even a slap on the wrist for something that rightfully should be public info. And has been with every OTHER president.

And Nobody has ever accused The Washington Post of being even a right leaning paper.

Regarding college, the myth that no one can find any of his classmates is just that - a myth. See: snopes.com: Barack Obama at Columbia (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbia.asp)

As for how did he pay for school - both he and Michelle took advantage of scholarships (which at Ivy League institutions are all need-based and not based on grades or scholastic achievement) and lots of student loans. See: snopes.com: Where Did Obama's Money Come From? (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp)

I don't know why he hasn't authorized release of his college transcripts - I would guess they aren't very good.

Smoothy - there is plenty to criticize in Obama's record, but dragging up silly aqnd unsubstantiated conspiracy theories just hurts the credibility of those of us on the right.

I don't totally trust Snopes... I've proved them wrong in the past on a couple points. They may be right most of the time... but not all of the time.

Incidentally... those scholarships if true... were not need based... they were race based. I'm his age... was far poorer, and couldn't get a red cent for ANY of the grants and scholarships I applied for because I was too white. Never mind the fact my parents didn't have a full time job for 3 years thanks to Jimmy Carters Economy and were on food stamps the entire time scraping by on a couple part time jobs. I grew up poor... my parents never made much... but I was told we were too wealthy, on unemployment or 20-30 hours a week at less then 3 dollars an hour, and food stamps to qualify for aid. Without money how could you fight this sort of thing in 1979 and 1980. Obama is literally only a few months older than I am. If you are old enough.. thats when Affirmative action and quotas came in hard and heavy... and seriously in favor of Blacks and women (even over far more qualified white men) Before the courts ruled against quotas just for the sake of quotas.

there is plenty to criticize in Obama's record, but dragging up silly aqnd unsubstantiated conspiracy theories just hurts the credibility of those of us on the right.

Agreed

Tell me any of them deserve even a slap on the wrist for something that rightfully should be public info.
It was HOW they did it, not BECAUSE they did it.

It was HOW they did it, not BECAUSE they did it.

Really, because the Messiahs school records are national secrets that won't even be released under the freadom of information act?


Do you think Hillary Clinton should have gone to jail over Filegate?

And she would have if Janet Reno had pursued it with the Gusto of Ruby Ridge and Waco. And THAT was far worse than school records to prove the lefts claims about how all knowing and smart the Idiot in the Whitehouse is. Are his grades really so bad its worth spending Millions of dollars to hide them? And wreck 9 lives.

After all look at the Tax Cheats in his cabinet... THEY didn't get screwed like that.

I suppose if the next Republican to run and get elected refused to release his (or Her) records you would defend that with the same gusto? Right?

Smoothy, do you know HOW they tried to get the records?

Why is anyone even trying to have a reasonable conversation with this tea bagger. It is pointless.

Smoothy, do you know HOW they tried to get the records?

Does it matter HOW? The fact is as an elected official of that stature.. the american public by precidence establish over how many election cycles now... are entitled to know this. Since the Democrats never miss a chance to harp how smart he is... something none of them actually know for a fact. They should have been released... They do not rise to the level of a state secret, or Juvenile Court records.

Why is anyone even trying to have a reasonable conversation with this tea bagger. It is pointless.

As opposed to an Obama buttkisser who believes anything their party tells them to believe? None of which can be backed up with any evidence about the Messiahs claimed intelligence... etc.


I ask for proof he is as smart as your side claims... your side just believes he is the Messiah and if he says he is that smart then he is.

And that Nothing halfway through his term is his fault yet. And your side still blames a guy that retired and not holding ANY elected office since the messiah decended from heaven to grace mankind with his smarts.

If he is what you all claim he is... show us the proof to back it up and stop with the rhetoric.

Does it matter HOW?
Yes.

Yes.

You didn't answer how this is worse than what Hillary Clinton did in Filegate with truly private records.

And you never answered if the any or all of the next republican candidtates for anything refuses to disclose any records if you would support that with the same gusto.

Smoothy, do you know HOW they tried to get the records?

I thought what Wikileaks showed was that it didn't really matter how information is obtained .

As opposed to an Obama buttkisser who believes anything their party tells them to believe? None of which can be backed up with any evidence about the Messiahs claimed intelligence....etc.


I ask for proof he is as smart as your side claims.....your side just believes he is the Messiah and if he says he is that smart then he is.

And that Nothing halfway through his term is his fault yet. And your side still blames a guy that retired and not holding ANY elected office since the messiah decended from heaven to grace mankind with his smarts.

If he is what you all claim he is.....show us the proof to back it up and stop with the rhetoric.

Nope not getting sucked into your crazy tea bagger conspiracy. Besides I stopped believing him when he supported FISA.

because people HAVE been arrested, charged, and are awaiting sentencing for trying to find that information out....Hello again, smoothy, keeper of facts:

You complain about OTHERS shifting facts around to suit their agenda... DUDE!!

These people weren't arrested BECAUSE they investigated, like you SAID. They were arrested because of HOW they did it.

BIG DIFFERENCE! One is a FACT. One isn't.

excon

Nope not getting sucked into your crazy tea bagger conspiracy. Besides I stopped believing him when he supported FISA.

The Obama worshippers believe whatever the Messiah tells them to believe.


ANd incidentally... to stop something you may not be aware of...

Before you start calling someone a Teabagger... how would you like if I start asking how long you were into feltching?


It's a derogatory term that has NOTHING to do with a political affiliation.

Excon has had the courtesy of not using it since he was made aware of its meaning some time ago.

Teabaggers have NOTHING to do with the Tea Party or republicans in general, in fact most teabaggers are surprisingly enough... democrats. Since it refers to a specific GAY sexual act.

Sorry smoothy, I guess we assumed you enjoyed having a scrotum sac in your mouth, I guess we were wrong.

A gay term really? I guess my wife is gay. Thanks for letting me know.

in fact most teabaggers are suprisingly enough....democrats. Since it refers to a specific GAY sexual act.Odd thing to say considering how many "family values" republicans suddenly turn out to be gay. LOL!

Odd thing to say considering how many "family values" republicans suddenly turn out to be gay. LOL!

You know how people bet on who will die next aka death pools. We should make a gay pool see what person come out of the closet next. I got my money on Beck.

You know how people bet on who will die next aka death pools. We should make a gay pool see what person come out of the closet next. I got my money on Beck.
That sounds about right.

Sorry smoothy, I guess we assumed you enjoyed having a scrotum sac in your mouth, I guess we were wrong.

Very wrong... not my thing at all, by a longshot.

That sounds about right.

I got my money on Obama... and second covering bet on Hillary.

Odd thing to say considering how many "family values" republicans suddenly turn out to be gay. LOL!

Far lower percentages than Democrats...

I could careless if someone is gay. I just don't like it when people are against gay rights and then they come out and say they are gay. It is just sad.

I could careless if someone is gay. I just don't like it when people are against gay rights and then they come out and say they are gay. It is just sad.

I couldn't care less if someone is gay too. However they are not a privileged class that is owed special rights and more than Mormons into Polygamy or NAMBLA is..

I could care less if someone is gay too. However they are not a privileged class that is owed special rights.What can they do that you can't?

Right now nothing I would want to do.

But they are trying to tell US what a marriage is even though it has been defined since the Old testimate of the Bible days.

So why do they have to follow a book that may or may not be true?

Who needs that old book anyway!

Psssst, it's "COULDN'T care less." "Could care less" means they ummmm could care less than they do now.

It's truly amazing the amount of power we lefties have. The righties have no match for it.

Oh no, we have Fox news.

can you link us to Bush's school records? And Reagan's?

No but I bet Mary Mapes could make something up.

Now that the jokes are out of the way, this is a waste of time Smoothy. Move along.

No .That was my point they can't be found.

Psssst, it's "COULDN'T care less." "Could care less" means they ummmm could care less than they do now.

Yeah, I noticed that... but actually I really could care less as well. I'm sort of indifferent...

Psssst, it's "COULDN'T care less." "Could care less" means they ummmm could care less than they do now.

DOH! :p

No but I bet Mary Mapes could make something up.

Now that the jokes are out of the way, this is a waste of time Smoothy. Move along.

Yeah... they can't prove he IS as smart as the party wants them to believe.

Just like Islamic Terrorists that actually believe there are 27 virgins waiting for them if they kill people. THey MIGHT get Virgins... but virgin WHAT's. Be happy with the 27 virgin Camels, that's as close to a woman as they will ever get..

Reality is far different than what they believe.

Yeah...they can't prove he IS as smart as the party wants them to believe.Ok let's go with that. I'm going on the assumption that you believe you're a smart fellow, how do you go about objectively proving that to people?

Ok let's go with that. I'm going on the assumption that you believe you're a smart fellow, how do you go about objectively proving that to people?

Simple, had he released his college transcripts like every other president or candidate has... his grades would speak for themselves. After all an idiot would not get a 4.0 GPA, nor would a smart person get a 1.0

Bill Clinton released his... so did Bush, and we all know why Kerry delayed releasing his... but they were released eventually, after he lost, but I give him kudos for still doing it, even if it was late..

No but I bet Mary Mapes could make something up.

Now that the jokes are out of the way, this is a waste of time Smoothy. Move along.

I like the show Swamp people has anyone ever seen it? Its guys who live in Louisiana and "fish" gators. It is awesome unless you don't like seeing Gators shot in the back of the head.

Simple, had he released his college transcripts like every other president or candidate has....his grades would speak for themselves. After all an idiot would not get a 4.0 GPA, nor would a smart person get a 1.0

Bill Clinton released his...so did Bush, and we all know why Kerry delayed releasing his....but they were released eventually, after he lost, but I give him kudos for still doing it, even if it was late..But I asked you for Bush's and Reagan's and you never answered.

Getting back to your original post Smoothy (re: Tiger Woods vs Obama info supplied) I think the sad fact is, more people will pay to read about or tune into the television to view alll the dirty, seamy, juicy little details regarding the fall from grace of a living icon, rather than the information you are seeking.

It comes down to the almighty dollar. If it didn't, that slimebucket who owns TMZ would never have gotten as far as he has.

If there was anything earth shattering in the information on Obama, I believe someone at Fox News would have already dug it up.

If there was anything earth shattering in the information on Obama, I believe someone at Fox News would have already dug it up.Correct.. or McCain would have used it.

That was my point they can't be found.

NK, you could have just accepted my lighthearted approach and been happy that I saw this thread as a waste of time, but no. And so...

Bush's Yale transcript (http://2004.georgewbush.org/bios/yale-transcript.asp)

I for one would be interested in the Bama's transcripts; and even more ;the published papers the President of the Harvard Law Review authored.

Guess we will never see them .Too bad . That is why conspiracy theorists get traction .The issue is this... if the President wasn't being so opaque... and mysterious... if he indeed felt that the American people deserved transparency like he claims... then all this stuff would be public knowledge.
Unrelated.. .
Can we expect "time to turn the page" to replace "mission accomplished "?

Correct..or McCain would have used it.

Its all under court order secrecy protection.

Otherwise, they would be available... FOX would have reported on it... and there would not be anything to argue about on the topic.

Like I said... 9 people are facing Jail time and $100,000 fines for trying to get his school records. I linked the story for ExCon earlier, it from this past weekend. If they were public information, then present proof. If you can, then there is no argument because we would know how well or bad he really did. We knew what Bush did, we know what John Kerry Did, we know what Bill Clinton did.

However nobody can show what Obama did, yet they argue about how smart he is, without knowing if he was a D student or an A student.

Show me a Harvard transcript showing a 3.5 GPA or better... nobody here would argue a person that got that wasn't smart. And I'd be first in line to agree.

Its all under court order secrecy protection. I have heard this for a while from a number of different people. I can't find proof of it outside of blogs. Do you have a factual link you can post?



However nobody can show what Obama did, yet they argue about how smart he is, without knowing if he was a D student or an A student.
Show me a Harvard transcript showing a 3.5 GPA or better....nobody here would argue a person that got that wasn't smart. And I'd be first in line to agree.

As far as I am concerned, good grades mean diddly. My brother could barely maintain a 2.0 average but he has an IQ of 150. He simply tests poorly. I think Obama is smart. Look how far he has gotten. I haven't managed to make it as President of my block association, much less the U.S.A!

I have heard this for a while from a number of different people. I can't find proof of it outside of blogs. Do you have a factual link you can post?



As far as I am concerned, good grades mean diddly. My brother could barely maintain a 2.0 average but he has an IQ of 150. He simply tests poorly. I think Obama is smart. Look how far he has gotten. I haven't managed to make it as President of my block association, much less the U.S.A!

Well, he destroyed the economy, quadrupled the national debt, and ran the Unemployment rate up substantuially... Blamed everything on a person that's not even in Government...

Yeah... real good accomplishment there. Hell, I've done better than that, If Obamas smart, then I'm a Genius.

Here is one place that compiled it by item...

The Death of the Grown-Up | Diana West > Home - "The Case Against Barack Hussein Obama" (http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/1424/-The-Case-Against-Barack-Hussein-Obama.aspx)

Link to the executive order that seals them, pay notice to the URL as it's a government site.

http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-1712.pdf

Link to the executive order that seals them, pay notice to the URL as its a goverment site.

http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-1712.pdfCan you show me where in that document he orders his educational records sealed?

It doesn't .It applies to Presidential papers generated while he is in office. Every President renews this order so they can have exclusive access to them for their Presidential Libraries after they retire from office. It has nothing to do with documents generated before the President was in office.

I like the show Swamp people has anyone ever seen it? Its guys who live in Louisiana and "fish" gators. It is awesome unless you don't like seeing Gators shot in the back of the head.

Haven't seen that one, Spit, but I do get a kick out of Billy the Exterminator (http://www.aetv.com/billy-the-exterminator/index.jsp).

Smoothy - did you know that your own college transcript is sealed, so that "the media" can't get it? It's true (assuming you went to college, of course) - only YOU can authorize your transcript's release. It doesn't take any grand conspiracy theories to understand how this works. If O doesn't want it released, it won't be released, any more than yours would be released without your permission. Yes, I agree he should release them, but don't blame "the media" for O's decision to keep his transcript private.

ebaines
The same could be said for medical records . However it has become expected that the health of the President is public knowledge.

The truth is that the opaqueness of the President about his past feeds conspiracy theorists.

Smoothy - did you know that your own college transcript is sealed, so that "the meda" can't get it? It's true (assuming you went to college, of course) - only YOU can authorize your transcript's release. It doesn't take any grand conspiracy theories to understand how this works. If O doesn't want it released, it won't be released, any more than yours would be released without your permission. Yes, I agree the should release them, but don't blame "the media" for O's decision to keep his transcript private.

If I ever ran for a high public office... or Supreme court. I would release it, because the pubic interest if I was to hold one of those jobs would demand it, and past precidence is essentually universal. Can anyone indicate a single president in the recent past who has refused to disclose this information? Lets keep it simple and limit it to say, the last 30 years.

Now the fact I have ZERO desire to be a politician, and I will never be nominated to the supreme court has nothing to do with my feelings on the issue. Had not the left been running around portraying him as the smarted president we ever had... while incessantly bashing Bush... well, I want to see some proof of the claims they themselves were making.

Remember the uproar from the left when Bush didn't release his in the time window THEY felt he should have... and how they ignored the Fact John Kerry didn't do the same. And like I did mention earlier, at least Kerry gets Kudus for releasing them, even if it wasn't until after the election.

Do you think if the next Republican candidate refuses to do it as well, do you think they will get the same treatment Obama got where they defended his decision to keep it secret. My money is on the bet they will be screaming bloody murder and coverup.

the pubic interest if I was to hold one of those jobs would demand it
Yes, we definitely would want to see your transcripts.