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smoothy
Aug 30, 2010, 12:31 PM
If Obama isn't responsible for everything that happens in HIS administration... then by the same argument Bush wasn't responsible for anything that happened under HIS administration.
Obama is victim of Bush's failed promises
Here's an opinion piece by Chuck Green who writes "Greener Pastures" for the Denver Post Aurora Sentinel... one of the more liberal papers in the country. Additionally, Mr. Green is a lifelong Democrat... so this is rather a stunning piece...
Greener Pastures Column -- 5/ 15/10
Barack Obama is setting a record-setting number of records during his first year in office.
Largest budget ever. Largest deficit ever. Largest number of broken promises ever. Most self-serving speeches ever. Largest number of agenda-setting failures ever. Fastest dive in popularity ever.
Wow! Talk about change.
Just one year ago, fresh from his inauguration celebrations, President Obama was flying high. After one of the nation's most inspiring political campaigns, the election of America’s first black president had captured the hopes and dreams of millions. To his devout followers, it was inconceivable that a year later his administration would be gripped in self-imposed crisis.
Of course, they don't see it as self-imposed. It's all George Bush's fault.
George Bush, who doesn't have a vote in congress and who no longer occupies the White House, is to blame for it all.
He broke Obama's promise to put all bills on the White House web site for five days before signing them.
He broke Obama's promise to have the congressional health care negotiations broadcast live on C-SPAN.
He broke Obama's promise to end earmarks.
He broke Obama's promise to keep unemployment from rising above 8 percent.
He broke Obama's promise to close the detention center at Guantanamo in the first year.
He broke Obama's promise to make peace with direct; no precondition talks with America’s most hate-filled enemies during his first year in office, ushering in a new era of global cooperation.
He broke Obama's promise to end the hiring of former lobbyists into high White House jobs.
He broke Obama's promise to end no-compete contracts with the government.
He broke Obama's promise to disclose the names of all attendees at closed White House meetings.
He broke Obama's promise for a new era of bipartisan cooperation in all matters.
He broke Obama's promise to have chosen a home church to attend Sunday services with his family by Easter of last year.
Yes, it's all George Bush's fault. President Obama is nothing more than a puppet in the never-ending failed Bush administration.
If only George Bush wasn't still in charge, all of President Obama's problems would be solved. His promises would have been kept, the economy would be back on track, and Iran would have stopped its work on developing a nuclear bomb and would be negotiating a peace treaty with Israel. North Korea would have ended its tyrannical regime, and integrity would have been restored to the federal government.
Oh, and did I mention what it would be like if the Democrats, under the leadership of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, didn't have the heavy yoke of George Bush around their necks?
There would be no ear marks, no closed-door drafting of bills, no increase in deficit spending, no special-interest influence (unions), no vote buying (Nebraska, Louisiana).
If only George Bush wasn't still in charge, we'd have real change by now.
All the broken promises, all the failed legislation and delay (health care reform, immigration reform) are not President Obama's fault or the fault of the Democrat-controlled Congress, since 2006. It's all George Bush's fault.
Take for example the decision of Eric Holder, the president's attorney general, to hold terrorists' trials in New York City. Or his decision to try the Christmas Day underpants bomber as a civilian.
Two disastrous decisions.
Certainly those were bad judgments based on poor advice from George Bush.
Need more proof?
You might recall that when Scott Brown won the election to the U.S. Senate from Massachusetts, capturing "the Ted Kennedy seat", President Obama said that Brown's victory was the result of the same voter anger that propelled Obama into office in 2008. People were still angry about George Bush and the policies of the past 10 years. And they wanted change.
Yes, according to the president, the voter rebellion in Massachusetts was George Bush's fault.
Therefore, in retaliation, they elected a Republican to the Ted Kennedy seat, ending a half-century of domination by Democrats. It is all George Bush's fault.
Will the failed administration of George Bush ever end, and the time for hope and change ever arrive?
Will President Obama ever accept responsibility for something... - anything?
(Chuck Green is a veteran Colorado journalist and former editor-in-chief of The Denver Post.)
paraclete
Aug 30, 2010, 05:44 PM
I think the most intelligent thing you said above was
Ignorance can be cured, but you can't fix stupid. - Ron White
speechlesstx
Aug 30, 2010, 06:22 PM
If Obama is the victim of Bush's failed policies then why did he refer to himself so many times in his Iraq 'victory' speech yesterday. That was rhetorical question.
By the way, the Dems are pondering how they can extend the Bush tax cuts while running against Bush (http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/116251-dems-cant-agree-over-killing-or-saving-the-bush-tax-cuts). It must suck being a Democrat and trying to keep up with all the story lines and such.
tomder55
Aug 30, 2010, 06:49 PM
All I know is that the Obama submission to the UN Human Rights commission,the' 2009 Country Reports on Human Rights Practices 'this year is an absolute disgrace .
It is a combination of condemnation of the nations he "leads" ,and self congratulatory pablum. We are a horrible nation according to the Obots. Lucky for us we have a Nobel Peace Prize winner to lead us out of the abyss.
paraclete
Aug 30, 2010, 09:11 PM
It is a combination of condemnation of the nations he "leads" ,and self congratulatory pablum. We are a horrible nation according to the Obots. Lucky for us we have a Nobel Peace Prize winner to lead us out of the abyss.
I think you fellows really have to come to grips with the fact your government sucks, you have a lot of good people yet you have a reputation which places you not far above the Romans. The fact is you kill people and then say oops. Your president won a Nobel peace prize for talking about peace when really he was talking about ending a war you started, now if he were to end the war in Afghanistan he might deserve it
speechlesstx
Aug 31, 2010, 04:49 AM
Obama's top achievement will always be being a legend in his own mind.
smoothy
Aug 31, 2010, 04:49 AM
I think the most intelligent thing you said above was
Really, everything above is based on public comments made by Obama, The Messiah for the Democrat party nearly halfway through his term he still doesn't believe anything is his fault. He still blames everyone else for his own actions and his failed policies.
And incidentally... following the same logic Obamas whoreshipers use... if everything Obama screws up was George Bushes fault... then by direct extrapolation... everything Bush did wrong was Bill Clintons fault. That's exactly what Obama and his followers use for logic.
Or is a spade sometimes really a spade... and everything Obama did while HE holds this office his own fault. Or do the Democrats still use the same logic the average child uses that nothing is ever their fault... and its ALWAYS someone else's fault? THe Democrats can't try to have it both ways... and they have been caught trying to do it yet again.
smoothy
Aug 31, 2010, 05:07 AM
I think you fellows really have to come to grips with the fact your government sucks, you have a lot of good people yet you have a reputation which places you not far above the Romans. The fact is you kill people and then say oops. Your president won a Nobel peace prize for talking about peace when really he was talking about ending a war you started, now if he were to end the war in Afghanistan he might deserve it
Most of the US population NOW equates Winning the Nobel Peace prize with getting a Publishers Clearing house sweepstakes because of that farce.
Since you are in Australia you understandibly may not understand that analogy. But the Sweepstakes is essentually junk mail that says you MAY have won something, and tries to get you to buy magazines, by making it seem if you don't you won't win. In a few simple words it's a type of con game, that barely meets the letter of the law for being legal.
THe Nobel Peace Prize holds less value that a rotting whale carcass on the beach in summer. And Incidentally... its not an American prize... Norway is who make a total laughing stock of it. Once upon a time... that award meant something, today it means nothing.
Nobody believes he either earned or deserved it. Except for a handful of democrats. And some idiots in Norway.
And incidentally... if he leaves Either Iraq or Afghanistan before the job is done... he needs his a55 kicked out of this country... not an award.
tomder55
Aug 31, 2010, 05:23 AM
I think you fellows really have to come to grips with the fact your government sucks, you have a lot of good people yet you have a reputation which places you not far above the Romans.
That is certainly a vison of the country the President shares .
EDITORIAL: Obama administration indicts America - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/25/obama-administration-indicts-america/)
U.S. human rights report hails Obama practices - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/24/us-human-rights-report-hails-obama-practices/)
paraclete
Aug 31, 2010, 05:54 AM
Since you are in Australia you understandibly may not understand that analogy. .
It may have escaped your notice but no one escapes the Readers Digest, just one more piece of american marketing we detest.
Obama is the can do man yet he hasn't done because you have to do more than talk to get things done
smoothy
Aug 31, 2010, 06:29 AM
It may have escaped your notice but noone escapes the Readers Digest, just one more piece of american marketing we detest.
Obama is the can do man yet he hasn't done because you have to do more than talk to get things done
If all Obama did was talk... we'd be far better off than we are now as a result of his socialist agenda and the STUPID stuff he has forced on a population that over 70% doesn't want.
After all, did YOU get a free ride of not being responsible for anything you did at YOUR job 2 years into being hired with no end in sight of the blame shifting? I didn't think so, and nobody else does either, myself included. If any of us spent 2 years blaming everything on the guy that used to work there we'de all be fired for gross incompetence. And that is something that crosses all international boundries.
Except for some government workers that is.
And trust me... we aren't Poud of the Publishers Clearing house crap, didn't know that actually made it outside the USA to other english speaking countries, since I've never been "down under" yet... Nothing wrong with the Readers Digest magazine itself, I think it's a good read... the only plus side to junk mail is it makes the Post office money which helps keep the real mail cheaper to send.
speechlesstx
Aug 31, 2010, 06:47 AM
It may have escaped your notice but noone escapes the Readers Digest, just one more piece of american marketing we detest.
You know Clete, I detest your constant whining about American influence in your country. If there was no demand for it then it wouldn't be there, so stop the freakin' whining and take responsibility for what's in YOUR country... no one forced it on you.
paraclete
Aug 31, 2010, 03:52 PM
You know Clete, I detest your constant whining about American influence in your country. If there was no demand for it then it wouldn't be there, so stop the freakin' whining and take responsibility for what's in YOUR country...no one forced it on you.
You are not a student of history or you would know that your country very aggressively pursues it's cultural interests in other countries. For example; in the FTA the protection for local production of television advertising was removed. This means is we get US sourced ad content on our TV. Who did this benefit? Not Australia, no, this was a trade off for some minor concession. You preach free market and protect your own industries, I'm fed up with your hypocrisy and it you can't take it do something about it
NeedKarma
Aug 31, 2010, 04:02 PM
You are not a student of history or you would know that your country very aggressively pursues it's cultural interests in other countries.
This is correct. And don't forget the big one: oil.
speechlesstx
Aug 31, 2010, 04:28 PM
You are not a student of history or you would know that your country very aggressively pursues it's cultural interests in other countries.
And that changes my point how? Readers Digest, like McDonald's, forced itself on you?
tomder55
Aug 31, 2010, 05:10 PM
Besides ,they keep on imposing their culture on us . Here are some examples :
Nichole Kidman ,Linda Fiorentino,Melissa George ,Rose Byrne ,Isla Fisher...
smoothy
Aug 31, 2010, 05:34 PM
You are not a student of history or you would know that your country very aggressively pursues it's cultural interests in other countries. for example; in the FTA the protection for local production of television advertising was removed. This means is we get US sourced ad content on our TV. Who did this benefit? Not Australia, no, this was a trade off for some minor concession. You preach free market and protect your own industries, I'm fed up with your hypocracy and it you can't take it do something about it
You mean like Austrailias oppression of the Aboriginies... and the Native Islanders of New Zealand?
Fine examples of tollerance and accomidation you have there in your part of the world when you harp about ours.
paraclete
Aug 31, 2010, 09:33 PM
And that changes my point how? Readers Digest, like McDonald's, forced itself on you?
Yes its advertising material arrived in my mail box unsolicited, unlike junk mail which I have banned, this is addressed mail no doubt with an address taken from the telephone directory. McDonald's is easier to avoid however its appearance in every town has reduced the incidence of other take away outlets
speechlesstx
Sep 1, 2010, 04:49 AM
Yes its advertising material arrived in my mail box unsolicited, unlike junk mail which I have banned, this is addressed mail no doubt with an address taken from the telephone directory. McDonald's is easier to avoid however its appearance in every town has reduced the incidence of other take away outlets
You missed the point entirely, Paraclete, a name which doesn't escape my notice, by the way. First you keep telling us our government sucks, then you keep telling us everything else about us sucks, then you keep telling us how much it sucks that American culture has invaded your country. Well friend, I welcome your cultural influences in our country and I don't whine about how Australia sucks, I speak of them as a friend.
If Reader's Digest has invaded your mailbox it's not my fault, contact Reader's Digest Australia and tell them about it. They wouldn't be there if Aussies weren't subscribing to their magazine, just as McDonald's wouldn't be there if Aussies weren't eating their Big Macs. So stop the whining and stop blaming us for what your countrymen are supporting. If you don't like it, tell them to stop keeping them in business, not me.
paraclete
Sep 1, 2010, 05:13 AM
Besides ,they keep on imposing their culture on us . Here are some examples :
Nichole Kidman ,Linda Fiorentino,Melissa George ,Rose Byrne ,Isla Fisher .....
Tom it has happened again, here is my second answer. I don't recognise four of those names why don't you use the names of those who have made it, Hugh Jackman, Mel Gibson, Eric Bana, Cate Blanchett and not to forget Oliva Newton-John, Paul Hogan, Errol Flynn and of course Rupert Murdoch the list keeps growing causing me to wonder if we have something special.
It wouldn't happen if our own film industry could flourish but sadly no money here
paraclete
Sep 1, 2010, 05:26 AM
You mean like Austrailias opression of the Aboriginies....and the Native Islanders of New Zealand?
Fine examples of tollerance and accomidation you have there in your part of the world when you harp about ours.
I have no idea what you are talking about, we don't oppress the mauri, there are tens of thousands of them among us and they come and go as they please, and we don't oppress the abo's, they choose to live as they do, unless you think our offering them education, health care and social security is oppression. This demonstates that you project your culture and ideas on others without understanding. I could ask you about the circumstances of the amerindian but I hear they are hard to find and there are many more blacks in poor circumstances in the US than there are poor abo's here, you should be concerned about them
tomder55
Sep 1, 2010, 05:26 AM
I specifically omitted the men and restricted it to gorgeous women. The rest of them made it in your day time television drama and have had some success in US films.
speechlesstx
Sep 1, 2010, 05:28 AM
Mel is kind of persona non grata at the moment, you can have him back.
smoothy
Sep 1, 2010, 09:19 AM
I have no idea what you are talking about, we don't oppress the mauri, there are tens of thousands of them among us and they come and go as they please, and we don't oppress the abo's, they choose to live as they do, unless you think our offering them education, health care and social security is oppression. This demonstates that you project your culture and ideas on others without understanding. I could ask you about the circumstances of the amerindian but I hear they are hard to find and there are many more blacks in poor circumstances in the US than there are poor abo's here, you should be concerned about them
Yeah... just like the Aborigines. You did them a huge favor, trying to destroy their culture and language in favor of English and Australian culture. Never mind THEY don't think that way. Or do YOU consider them not worthy of the respect you would give another Australian?
And incidentally... YOU are the one who does nothing but bash American culture... exactly when did Australia stop screwing the Aboriginies?
And handing out welfare isn't just payment for a destroyed culture, language and lifestyle.
When you have your own house in order... then you have some room to spew.
At least the Blacks here are free to return to their ancestoral homes if they wish.. and have been for over 150 years. Their ancestoral homes have not been under our control... so their culture exists as it does as a result of their own people. Any gripes they have now are a result of their own laziness. They are holding themselves back. Because too many of them think they are above breaking out a sweat doing physical labor... or too good to make the most of the free public school system, then complain why nobody wants to hire someone that can't speak cohearant english (when they speak no other language) can't dress like a civilized person... and then act like they are entitled to everything, all without even a high school diploma because they dropped out.
Incidentally... when the Idians were being killed and run off their ancestoral lands... my ancestors were being screwed and starved to death by the English in Ireland and Scotland or being screwed by the wealthy and rulers in Germany All pre-nazi party era.
... but I don't harbor a dislike for the british.
paraclete
Sep 1, 2010, 02:50 PM
Yeah... just like the Aborigines. You did them a huge favor, trying to destroy their culture and language in favor of English and Australian culture. Never mind THEY don't think that way. Or do YOU consider them not worthy of the respect you would give another Australian?
Exactly when did Australia stop screwing the Aboriginies?
You seem to have mixed up Australians and the British here but since you are well versed in all things Australian you will have heard of the intervention which specifically targeted under privilege among aboriginees, but I expect you think that is screwing the aboriginees.
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And handing out welfare isn't just payment for a destroyed culture, language and lifestyle. .
What would you have us do? Return them to the stone age, I think it has been demonstrated that for most this doesn't work and when we leave them alone we are criticised for doing nothing, no, we have a responsibily to provide them with education, health services and if necessary income.
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At least the Blacks here are free to return to their ancestoral homes if they wish.. and have been for over 150 years. Their ancestoral homes have not been under our control... so their culture exists as it does as a result of their own people. Any gripes they have now are a result of their own laziness. They are holding themselves back. Because too many of them think they are above breaking out a sweat doing physical labor... or too good to make the most of the free public school system, then complain why nobody wants to hire someone that can't speak cohearant english (when they speak no other language) can't dress like a civilized person... and then act like they are entitled to everything, all without even a high school diploma because they dropped out..
There seems to be some sort of double standard in operation here, we offer our aboriginees the same services you offer the negro or better and you critise us and look down your nose at your own. I think you should look at Liberia before suggesting your blacks go back to Africa. Perhaps they have a different ethos you so readily admit for the aboriginees. Our aboriginees live on their ancestoral lands unless they have freely decided to leave, that they share these places with others in some instances is something we can thank the British for.
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Incidentally... when the Idians were being killed and run off their ancestoral lands... my ancestors were being screwed and starved to death by the English in Ireland and Scotland or being screwed by the wealthy and rulers in Germany All pre-nazi party era.
... but I don't harbor a dislike for the british.
How convenient for you, would you allow me to make the same defense? I wasn't around in the early parts of the nineteenth century either but my ancestors had a similar experience and so I will conveniently blame the British for killing off the aboriginee and leaving most of this land empty. You live in a place which once belonged to someoneelse, so do I. You are as responsible for the circumstance as I am, but you cannot hold me to account for one outcome and deny your own responsibility for the circumstances in your own nation, Go help some of those lazy blacks you speak of.
smoothy
Sep 1, 2010, 03:06 PM
You seem to have mixed up Australians and the British here but since you are well versed in all things Australian you will have heard of the intervention which specifically targetted under privilage among aboriginees, but I expect you think that is screwing the aboriginees.
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What would you have us do? Return them to the stone age, I think it has been demonstrated that for most this doesn't work and when we leave them alone we are critised for doing nothing, no, we have a responsibily to provide them with education, health services and if necessary income.
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There seems to be some sort of double standard in operation here, we offer our aboriginees the same services you offer the negro or better and you critise us and look down your nose at your own. I think you should look at Liberia before suggesting your blacks go back to Africa. Perhaps they have a different ethos you so readily admit for the aboriginees. Our aboriginees live on their ancestoral lands unless thay have freely decided to leave, that they share these places with others in some instances is something we can thank the British for.
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How convenient for you, would you allow me to make the same defense? I wasn't around in the early parts of the nineteenth century either but my ancestors had a similar experience and so I will conveniently blame the British for killing off the aboriginee and leaving most of this land empty. You live in a place which once belonged to someoneelse, so do I. You are as responsible for the circumstance as I am, but you cannot hold me to account for one outcome and deny your own responsibility for the circumstances in your own nation, Go help some of those lazy blacks you speak of.
So... Autrailia was not initially colonized as a British Penal colony? That's news to everyone else.
You mention offering "services" to the aboriginies they didn't want. Did they ask for their CHildren to be taken from their families... be forced to renounce all things in their culture, to be treated like second class humans...
Damn... thats just like saying Slavery was doing Tribal africans a service by taking them off the hands of their fellow african slave traders and offering them what we had to offer. I don't think that argument held water for those that tried it here either, and for good reason.
And incidentally... yeah a few did go back... and the rest that whine and complain expecting handouts for something that ended generations previous... are free to go as well if their mythical Africa is and was so great. But they might have to work there. Your average African isn't nearly as lazy and they wouldn't have it so easy. I've known a few from a number of countries, members from a VERY prominent presidents family that live here (I won't name what country here, but they are very nice people)... they believe you are entitled to what you work to earn, and don't expect handouts.
Fortunately its not a universal mindset, many recognise the opportunity, and make the best of it. And don't dwell on what happened over 150+ years ago.
paraclete
Sep 1, 2010, 03:26 PM
So....Autrailia was not colonized as a British Penal colony? THats news to everyone else.
You mention offering "services" to the aboriginies they didn't want. Did they ask for their CHildren to be taken from their families...be forced to renounce all things in their culture, to be treated like second class humans....
Damn....thats just like saying Slavery was doing Tribal africans a service by taking them off the hands of their fellow african slave traders and offering them what we had to offer.
What pecular mixed up thinking, What does parts of Australia having been a penal colony have to do with what we were discussing, which If I remember correctly was the fate of aboriginal inhabitants in our respective nations? It is you who brought the ameriacn former slaves into the discussion with your spew about their laziness and ingratitude by not returning to Africa, why would they go back to the people who enslaved them? I observe you are careful not to comment on the condition of the amerindian today. As to the stolen generations you omitted to say that these were not full blood aborigineee children but the dispised "creamies" who had no place in either culture, the full blood still have their culture which is not as tolerant of outsiders as you might suppose. Some of those "ill treated sub humans" have done well for themselves
smoothy
Sep 1, 2010, 03:30 PM
What pecular mixed up thinking, What does parts of Australia having been a penal colony have to do with what we were discussing, which If I remember correctly was the fate of aboriginal inhabitants in our respective nations? It is you who brought the ameriacn former slaves into the discussion with your spew about their laziness and ingratitude by not returning to Africa, why would they go back to the people who enslaved them? I observe you are careful not to comment on the condition of the amerindian today. As to the stolen generations you omitted to say that these were not full blood aborigineee children but the dispised "creamies" who had no place in either culture, the full blood still have their culture which is not as tolerant of outsiders as you might suppose. Some of those "ill treated sub humans" have done well for themselves
You argued I had British confused with Australian. Your as well as Canadian ties to England are far more current and fresher than ours are. But they still exist.
And Incidentally... I do know one true Mauri guy (so he claims anyway, but he looks it)... immigrated here to the USA about 5 years ago.
I never claimed either the Mauri or the Aborigiunee cultures were perfect... or tolerant. And given history... their intollerance has a sound basis, and no doubt has effected that culture in many ways since days long before either of us were born..
tomder55
Sep 1, 2010, 03:48 PM
Can we agree we both shafted the natives and move on ?
Back to the OP . The Bama will continue to resort to the tired meme that "it's Bush fault"as long as he can get away with it.
Bush's ,memoir is coming out soon.It is my hope he defends his legacy . He steered the ship of state through uncharted waters ,and over all... I say well done !
paraclete
Sep 1, 2010, 03:49 PM
You argued I had British confused with Austrailian. Your as well as Canadian ties to England are far more current and fresher than ours are. But they still exist.
And Incidently...I do know one true Mauri guy (so he claims anyway, but he looks it)...immigrated here to the USA about 5 years ago.
I never claimed either the Mauri or the Aborigiunee cultures were perfect...or tolerant. And given history....their intollerance has a sound basis, and no doubt has effected that culture in many ways since days long before either of us were born..
You have wandered off on an tangent again but I guess if it gets too hot in the kitchen. The mauri have nothing to do with Australia unless it is conveniently using it as a place of employment. What does a mauri look like? Could you tell the difference between say a mauri and an arab? Perhaps by the tatoos, beyond that? The same is true of many aboriginees in Australian society today
As to ties with the old country mine diverged 190 years ago so not as far apart as you might think. America and Australia and New Zealand all had sad experiences with the British but then so did peoples much closer to them and we have the legacy of their attitudes in our thinking
smoothy
Sep 1, 2010, 03:52 PM
You have wandered off on an tangent again but I guess if it gets too hot in the kitchen. The mauri have nothing to do with Australia unless it is conveniently using it as a place of employment. What does a mauri look like? could you tell the difference between say a mauri and an arab? perhaps by the tatoos, beyond that? The same is true of many aboriginees in Australian society today
As to ties with the old country mine diverged 190 years ago so not as far apart as you might think. America and Australia and New Zealand all had sad experiences with the British but then so did peoples much closer to them and we have the legacy of their attitudes in our thinkingYeah... there is a huge difference between a Mauri and an Arab. And actually it would be hard to tell the difference between a Mauri and a Native Hawaiian. And this is ignoring any tattoos. I'm not a tattoo expert anyway and wouldn't know the differneces between many of the tribal patterns and don't pretend to.
paraclete
Sep 1, 2010, 04:14 PM
The Bama will continue to resort to the tired meme that "it's Bush fault"as long as he can get away with it.
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Every government has a legacy from its predecessor and spends a lot of time reminding us of all the things they did wrong, that is on the days when they don't have some newsworthy initiative they want us to acknowledge their brilliance for. I expect the problem is BO has run out of newsworthy initiatives, this is what happens when you have a shallow agenda.
twinkiedooter
Sep 6, 2010, 09:26 AM
Obama is definitely victim to HIS failed and broken promises. I am not aware of any of his campaign promises coming to fruition in positive ways. The first glaring "promise" of transparancy.
****rolling on the floor with laughter on that one*****
The only thing this guy is good at is breaking promises regardless of who's promises they are.
tomder55
Sep 6, 2010, 07:00 PM
Today the President said :
They talk about me like a dog.
'They talk about me like a dog' - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/41816.html)
This while offering union employees $50 billion of taxpayer's money to dig holes and fill them in. That's classic Keynes .
Paul Krugman says that worked great last time. All it took was the stimulating spending of WWII to make it happen.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/06/opinion/06krugman.html?_r=1&ref=opinion
Of course ;when the bombs stopped falling ,the US was the only market left in town... a small detail lost in his narrative.
bleusong52
Sep 6, 2010, 09:01 PM
Most the media falls into that "it's still Bush's fault" and it is so old already. When the Obama administration cannot get it right, well, it is still GWB's fault.
I will say one good thing - my nephew is coming home from Iraq, hopefully by the middle of October.
talaniman
Sep 7, 2010, 06:49 AM
I think it will take a lot longer than 2 years to clean up the mess that was left when the new guy got here. Especially when he can't get any help. And won't from the right, who are to scared of their own shadow to do anything but cry.
Heck, it took 8 years for us to find out how bad the mess was, and how much money was stolen in the first place.
Funny how the timing worked out. Bush hollers fire on his way out the door. Who to blame? The guy with the match, or the guy with the bucket?
tomder55
Sep 7, 2010, 06:51 AM
A bucket of gasoline perhaps .
I like the bucket analogy. It sure seems to me that the President is desperate to fulfill everything in his bucket list before his Presidency dies.
talaniman
Sep 7, 2010, 07:02 AM
That's what all Presidents do!
smoothy
Sep 7, 2010, 08:22 AM
A bucket of gasoline perhaps .
I like the bucket analogy. It sure seems to me that the President is desperate to fullfill everything in his bucket list before his Presidency dies.
I would prefer to call Obamas agenda "The Honey Bucket"... rather than just a Bucket.
Because a Louisiana Outhouse in July would smell better than Obama Bucket list.
talaniman
Sep 7, 2010, 10:02 AM
My position is help clean the mess up, rather than jump the janitor for not working fast enough.
Even if you right wingers get your congress this fall what makes you think the clean up will go faster. Especially given the ones affected most by the highway robbery in the first place.
Take away the fear mongers, and scare tactics, which we have all seen before to roust up votes, things will not change dramatically for those hollering the loudest in the next 2 years, than they have in the last two.
Face it rich guys who want a return to trickle down economics, as a solution to the current mess haven't lost a dime, so who has?
They relaxed and eliminated all the rules, causing utter chaos, but regulation makes them mad. Go figure that one. (BP, and the oil spill come to mind.)
Naw, those things that allowed things to get screwed up, are not a good option, and crying about being afraid to invest in new jobs, and expanding is another crock spread by the money folks who sit on a fortune while they exploit cheap labor, and trade laws to outsource jobs that the middle class here use to have.
The biggest scam was in new housing where they made a perfect bubble, took their money in fees and commissions upfront, sold it to greedy fruit cakes, who they left holding the bag (US), and homeowners who would never of qualified for loans, mortgages, or refinancing otherwise are stuck with "upside down mortgages", or a lot of unpaid debt in common language.
Yeah wipe out some more rules will you like the Republicans have been saying for 2 years, so the rich can get even richer, and the poor can stay poor, and the middle class can no longer work through this latest recession. Blame everybody including the janitor. But let the ones who drove the car over the cliff have the keys back to do it again.
I ain't uncertain about a thing except getting screwed yet again by the ruling class, who tell you that what's trickling down to you is good for you.
We are all the victims of the Bush failed promises, not just the janitor.
smoothy
Sep 7, 2010, 10:13 AM
The problem is... the Democrats refuse to allow input from the Republicans... and what little they do is to clail its bipartisan when in reality no substantial input from the Right is allowed at all. Like the Health Care bill that was essentually written behind closed doors in private with essentually no input from the Republicans.
Mr, " I will initiate a new era of Transparency" has been the LEAST transparent president in the history of the USA.
Sorry, but Obama isn't the Messiah, nor is he the dictator he believes himself to be.
This WILL come to an end with the upcoming elections when we take back the house and senate ending the Democrats reign of terror on the American Public.
After all, you can't have honest and open discussion ot bipartisan anything when one side essentually locks the other outside... and complaining at the same time that it's their fault not ours.
Fact is Obamas be President for 19 months now... and YET he blames everything on his predecessor. Well, if THAT argument is valid... nothing was Bushes fault either, it was all Bill Clintons fault. Doesn't sound like a good excuse now does it?
Or is Obamas arguments as childish and immature as most of the country believes them to be.
If he was a real man, he would take ownership of the mess he created. After all they are a result of his stupid blame wall street, blame big business... blame George Bush policies.
Or is Obama really as arrogant and naccisitic as I think he is.. When will he accept responsibility for his own actions. Would YOUR employer tollerate 19 months of screwing things up? I don't think so. Any and all of us would have been fired if we were as incompetent as Obama is.
tomder55
Sep 7, 2010, 10:28 AM
Even if you right wingers get your congress this fall what makes you think the clean up will go faster. Especially given the ones affected most by the highway robbery in the first place
Unless the President modifies his extremism then he can block any Republican efforts. He has the power of the veto.
They relaxed and eliminated all the rules, causing utter chaos, but regulation makes them mad. Go figure that one. (BP, and the oil spill come to mind.)
Except in the BP case, the streamlining of the permit process happened under the Obama MMS.
The rest of your post ignores the Democrat contributions to the housing bubble. It was mandates and directives to ease lending rules by the likes of Barney Frank and Andrew Cuomo in HUD that created the bubble.
Wait... you think the banks wanted to give low and no interest loans without adequate collateral by the borrower ?
No ,they were forced to do it .
Edit . I have linked to this before . It is useful to note that even the ultra-lib Village Voice pins the tail on the donkey.
http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-08-05/news/how-andrew-cuomo-gave-birth-to-the-crisis-at-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac/1
speechlesstx
Sep 7, 2010, 10:56 AM
According to Axelrod, Obama and the Deemocrats are "a victim of our own success."
That's right ladies and gentlemen, Obama and the Dems are just too awesome for their own good... a victim of their awesomeness.