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icalltheshot
Aug 30, 2010, 12:09 PM
I've been NC for 9 months now. I was the dumper. Last week I emailed my ex to give her kids something I promised them 9 months ago. Also she still owes me money which she promised to pay me next month.
In the email, I asked her how she's doing and the kids is doing. She reply pretty quickly and sound very friendly. She said she learned how to save money from me and thanks me for it. She said that her life is pretty busy right now and work three jobs. I also learned that she is moving out from the condo with her two friends (one guy and a girl) so that she can save money to buy a house. We both live in the same condo. She moved out a week early so when she came by we got a chance to meet and talk. Everything seem normal and we gave each other a big hug. We continue to talk on the phone after that. She said she's still single and so am I.
A few days later I get to meet one of her kids and she came to my place so I can help her with her phone. We fooled around. I thought everything is good and maybe there is a chance we may get back together but this is where I was wrong. She called me on Saturday from work and we chatted and I asked her what is her plan she said she got to work so I believed her. But that night I went downstairs to move my car, I saw her car there so I went up to her apartment to see her. From far away I saw a guy standing there so I didn't want to come but her kid saw me and said hi and tell me to go come with him. I was at the elevator door so I go back down. A few minutes later she called me and I ask her I thought you said you got to work and who's the guy. She said she couldn't get the truck tomorrow so she got to do the move today and the guy is her tenant helping her out. She asked me why I didn't come. I said I don't know. I ask her if she need help she said she is OK and will call me later. That killed me because I am thinking her roommate is someone she is going out with which when I asked she said they are friends, this guy used to work in her company but quit and now jobless.
The next morning, I went downstairs, I saw her car and a moving truck there but she told me she couldn't get the truck. I got upset and thought maybe she's going out with him now so I shouldn't be wasting my time. Because she didn't even ask me to help her which I also offered. So I texted her "why do you have to lie to me, It's ok, I am happy for you good luck". We didn't talk since.
I think I am wasting my time here. I think she has already moved on. Why she fooled around with me I got no clue, maybe the feeling is there but I don't want to be the third wheels been there done that so I guess goodbye is the best solution here what do you guy think?
What I am thinking is if she got nothing with him then why not let me help her. Why avoiding me?
Wondergirl
Aug 30, 2010, 12:21 PM
She has moved on. Why are YOU wasting your time? Do you enjoy the drama?
Kitkat22
Aug 30, 2010, 12:32 PM
Save yourself a lot of headaches and let him have her. "To the Victor go the spoils".. In your case it would be the spoiled.
Get over it.
icalltheshot
Aug 30, 2010, 12:39 PM
Save yourself a lot of headaches and let him have her. "To the Victor go the spoils"..In your case it would be the spoiled.
Get over it.
If indeed they are having the relationship then absolutely. Why is she denying it though and why open the door. She should just avoid me to save the trouble why say that she is offering her dog which I gave her once in a while to play with if I want to? Like I said if she is going out with him now for sure I'll move on. I've been there and it will be just heartache and pain for me. I was the dumper, I let go so it's my loss I know. I've been NC for 9 months now so I think I will survive and I am almost there. This situation however has set me back a bit though.
Kitkat22
Aug 30, 2010, 12:46 PM
If indeed they are having the relationship then absolutely. Why is she denying it though and why open the door. She should just avoid me to save the trouble why say that she is offering her dog which I gave her once in a while to play with if I want to? Like I said if she is going out with him now for sure I'll move on. I've been there and it will be just heartache and pain for me. I was the dumper, I let go so it's my loss I know. I've been NC for 9 months now so I think I will survive and I am almost there. This situation however has set me back a bit though.
You need to move on regardless. It isn't going to work for the both of you and if you start back down that road you'll be back where you were right after the break up. You say you dumped her. I think you didn't want her until someone else did. Move on.
icalltheshot
Aug 30, 2010, 12:55 PM
You need to move on regardless. It isn't going to work for the both of you and if you start back down that road you'll be back where you were right after the break up. You say you dumped her. I think you didn't want her until someone else did. Move on.
I didn't even know she got someone else. I just found out now since I was doing NC for a long time 9 months. My point is if she got someone else already then just say so and avoid me completely. I'll get the message. Why lead me on and open the door to let me in. If she is indeed going out with him I need to hear it from her. I'll not contact her to find out though. Either way she got something to hide so yeah it's best not wasting time.
Kitkat22
Aug 30, 2010, 01:05 PM
If she has someone else it's none of your business. You dropped her. You contacted her first.
She is under no obligation to tell you anything about her life. Move on and leave her alone.
BMI
Aug 30, 2010, 01:53 PM
The first couple of lines reveal a lot about why it is you contacted her in the first place. Had you indeed messaged for the reasons provided, understanding the concept of NC, you would have seen the dangers of where this was headed long before it ever developed.
Also, the fact that now you have reverted back to thinking about her and a new guy and why she did this or that or the other thing indicates that you are not over her. Not by a long shot.
I suggest starting over from square one as the results from this break in NC are quite evident. You contacted her for whatever reason (curiousity, lonliness, etc.) and wanted to find out whether you could get back with her, or at least test the water. Things change in 9 months, not sure what it is you were expecting? Why even seek answers? You already have them, the rest is a waste of time.
Just goes to show those that read these forums how important it is to listen to the experts on these boards. They have such designations for a reason. 9 months of N/C gone in the blink of a simple message to an old flame. Pity. Back to square one.
Best of luck.
hungtoronto
Aug 30, 2010, 04:15 PM
The first couple of lines reveal alot about why it is you contacted her in the first place. Had you indeed messaged for the reasons provided, understanding the concept of NC, you would have seen the dangers of where this was headed long before it ever developed.
Also, the fact that now you have reverted back to thinking about her and a new guy and why she did this or that or the other thing indicates that you are not over her. Not by a long shot.
I suggest starting over from square one as the results from this break in NC are quite evident. You contacted her for whatever reason (curiousity, lonliness, etc.) and wanted to find out whether you could get back with her, or at least test the water. Things change in 9 months, not sure what it is you were expecting? Why even seek answers? You already have them, the rest is a waste of time.
Just goes to show those that read these forums how important it is to listen to the experts on these boards. They have such designations for a reason. 9 months of N/C gone in the blink of a simple message to an old flame. Pity. Back to square one.
Best of luck.
Well, I don't know about back to square one. But I know that this set me back though. Maybe this will help me move on easier since for the past 9 months, the guilt is like a curse over me. But according to her she said it was a mutual breakup. We all breakup for a reason and I know what my reasons were. Money issue was one of the problem. She doesn't know how to save and I did mention it during the breakup. She thanks me for it. It brought tears to my eyes.
Maybe my question is if she is with someone why fool around with me? It just show that she's not the serious type anyway. What if she wasn't fooling around and she still got feeling for me.
Kitkat22
Aug 30, 2010, 05:54 PM
Well, I don't know about back to square one. But I know that this set me back though. Maybe this will help me move on easier since for the past 9 months, the guilt is like a curse over me. But according to her she said it was a mutual breakup. We all breakup for a reason and I know what my reasons were. Money issue was one of the problem. She doesn't know how to save and I did mention it during the breakup. She thanks me for it. It brought tears to my eyes.
Maybe my question is if she is with someone why fool around with me? It just show that she's not the serious type anyway. What if she wasn't fooling around and she still got feeling for me.
Hi Hungtoronto.. Your response is a little confusing. If you want to start Post about your relationship we would be glad to answer your post.
This is about the op... Thanks and welcome back:)
Fr_Chuck
Aug 30, 2010, 06:46 PM
Well, I don't know about back to square one. But I know that this set me back though. Maybe this will help me move on easier since for the past 9 months, the guilt is like a curse over me. But according to her she said it was a mutual breakup. We all breakup for a reason and I know what my reasons were. Money issue was one of the problem. She doesn't know how to save and I did mention it during the breakup. She thanks me for it. It brought tears to my eyes.
Maybe my question is if she is with someone why fool around with me? It just show that she's not the serious type anyway. What if she wasn't fooling around and she still got feeling for me.
I am at a lost for your answer to the other person, Were you trying to ask a question ?
These are not blogs if you wanted to ask one, you don't post it as an answer.
But it sort of started as an answer, so I am just lost what you are talking about.
Please let us know
Kitkat22
Aug 30, 2010, 06:49 PM
I am at a lost for your answer to the other person, Were you trying to ask a question ?
These are not blogs if you wanted to ask one, you don't post it as an answer.
but it sorta started as an answer, so I am just lost what you are talking about.
Please let us know
Very Confusing!:confused:
CarrotTalker
Aug 30, 2010, 07:38 PM
I have not read anything from what you wrote that shows she is dating this other guy, she told you he is helping move out.
You are making the assumption.
An assumption that your getting angry at her for, when you are the one that dumped her?
talaniman
Aug 30, 2010, 07:49 PM
Seems these Canadians are well acquainted.
vanheart
Aug 30, 2010, 09:29 PM
Why did you stop NC?
lickemlolly
Aug 30, 2010, 09:44 PM
I agree with the assumption thing... then you took it one step further and actually accused her of lying... double mistake... first three letters in the word assume are what? EXACTLY because that's what you make yourself look like every time you assume... she may have been able to make some calls to get the truck.. she could have been telling the truth and they may have been a friend... whats more important is that you two are not together so she is not obligated to tell you anything... I find that as a woman there is nothing more irritating then getting a text message saying you lied about something when you told the truth... because someone perceived it to be different then it actually was... if you did have a chance at being back together... you probably just blew it...
vanheart
Aug 30, 2010, 09:56 PM
This is all from your hand. Not hers.
You dumped her, was NC for 9 months, now what?
You can't just slide back in willy nilly bud.
Even if you hooked up again. (which was wrong on both parts)
Still out & now jealous.
Make a clean break & really go NC. Save yourself any further drama.
You blew it twice. By breaking NC, then by sleeping with her again.
You're right. She already moved on.
After 9 months, I would.
Kitkat22
Aug 30, 2010, 10:33 PM
She's moved on in her heart and mind. You need to do the same.
icalltheshot
Aug 31, 2010, 05:20 AM
Why did you stop NC?
Because I am an idiot. Maybe that's what you want to hear. I thought it has been 9 months. It's almost the same time that we were in the relationship for. So I thought it's OK to make contact. I thought I am over it. I guess I didn't know my own strength. But hey, we are humans, we made mistakes nothing is perfect.
You're right Van, If we get back together those old problems need to be resolve first which probably will never happen. Although I did the dumping, I wasn't proud of it. The relationship was unhealthy and someone got to do it for both of us. Believe me, I was hurt too, I didn't do it to be with someone else. You know what I rather her dumping me than me doing the dirty work because it will let me move on easier. Since I am the dumper, I am stuck with the guilt.
Why did you stop NC?
Another reason was, because we live in the same condo. I live in one tower she live in the other but share all the amenities. I saw her kids one time going down stair and the baby sitter told me they were talking about you the other day. Plus, I got into an accident got depressed so I crave in. I didn't tell her about the accident though but one of her friend did and she asked me about it.
BMI
Aug 31, 2010, 06:29 AM
Are you saying you are now considering getting back together with her?
icalltheshot
Aug 31, 2010, 07:12 AM
I don't know what I am doing anymore. I am just going back to NC for my own good and sanity.
Kitkat22
Aug 31, 2010, 07:15 AM
I don't know what I am doing anymore. I am just going back to NC for my own good and sanity.
Stick with it.
icalltheshot
Aug 31, 2010, 10:46 AM
You contacted her first.
The funny thing is, I didn't contact her first. I never called her. I only emailed her when I asked for the money back. She called me a few times, once was to give me back the money the other time it was for other businesses but I always ended the conversation very quickly. Now I think the wheels are coming at me now. I follow NC religiously because I know it set me back everything I do the contact or I hear something from her. She is pretty tough too. She only contact me strictly for business.
talaniman
Aug 31, 2010, 11:20 AM
I think it best to end any business with her whatsoever.
Kitkat22
Aug 31, 2010, 11:20 AM
The funny thing is, I didn't contact her first. I never called her. I only emailed her when I asked for the money back. She called me a few times, once was to give me back the money the other time it was for other businesses but I always ended the conversation very quickly. Now I think the wheels are coming at me now. I follow NC religiously because I know it set me back everything I do the contact or I hear something from her. She is pretty tough too. She only contact me strictly for business.
Email is a form of contact. Just stay NC and you'll get over tis a lot quicker. Good Luck:)
icalltheshot
Aug 31, 2010, 04:08 PM
I am trying to get the money back from her. She owes me 1000 and it has been over a year now. She keeps delaying it which is quite annoying.
mystific
Aug 31, 2010, 05:30 PM
Consider it a gift.. you won't get it back.
icalltheshot
Sep 13, 2010, 06:13 AM
i agree with the assumption thing...then you took it one step further and actually accused her of lying...double mistake...first three letters in the word assume are what? EXACTLY because thats what you make yourself look like every time you assume...she may have been able to make some calls to get the truck..she could have been telling the truth and they may have been a friend...whats more important is that you two are not together so she is not obligated to tell you anything...i find that as a woman there is nothing more irritating then getting a text message saying you lied about something when you told the truth...because someone perceived it to be different then it actually was...if you did have a chance at being back together...you probably just blew it...
I emailed her a few days later and said I am sorry for my behavior. I realized that we are not a couple and you have your own life. Anyway, to make a long story short, we talked on the phone and she said the feeling is still there but her priority now is to make money to buy a house and doesn't have time for a relationship. She offered her friendship but I said no. I said I can't be friend since the feeling is there so I said good luck and good bye. She called me a few days later I am not sure why but I didn't pickup the phone.
What I am thinking is, if we can't be together then let move on. I don't want to get strung along. She told me the feeling is still there but I don't buy it. If you love someone it doesn't matter how busy you are you'll make time for them. Back to NC.
icalltheshot
Sep 21, 2010, 12:07 PM
I didn't talk to her for a week then she called me and ask me to help her with some advertisement. She said she want to come to my place so that I can show her? Anyway I said "sure when you have time "but then she called again and I didn't pick up. I am thinking, hmm wait a minute, I told her I don't want to be her friend. She called me on Sunday twice I didn't pick up again. So I emailed her on Monday and give her some tips for the ad. She called me again a few times but I didn't pick up. I think if it's something urgent she will leave a message I guess not. Anyway I am doing no contact again. I don't think getting back together is going to work. I broke up with her for a reason and I may forget what when on but I don't think we can get back without solving those problem. I should have told her to stop contacting me but I don't want to be mean. Silence is golden I guess.
Kitkat22
Sep 21, 2010, 12:18 PM
Leave the past along. Don't go back down that road. Good Luck
talaniman
Sep 21, 2010, 03:50 PM
You did well by ignoring her calls, and as for the email to help her as she asked, way to go! Funny how she hasn't emailed back her thanks, or further business questions, but choses to call, Hmmmmm!
But through it all you kept it business and nothing personal, and polite, but unavailable for BS!
My congrats to you for doing the right things for yourself.
icalltheshot
Sep 21, 2010, 06:14 PM
Funny how she hasn't emailed back her thanks, or further business questions, but choses to call, Hmmmmm!
She did emailed back her thanks but she always calls, she rarely text or email. It's her way of saying I got more power than you. I think she probably does since I can't call her out of the blue. I shouldn't be helping her anyway but you know I felt sorry for her and her kids but then again I have to cover my **s too. I told her we can't be friend last time we talked and she agreed with that but then she calls me and ask me for help. Since I am a nice guy I can't just say no. I just have to not pick up the phone and go NC for my own good.
vanheart
Sep 21, 2010, 09:24 PM
Yes sir.
That's what ex means. Hope you got it now. Anything more will just set you back.
That's why NC is crucial.
The money she owes you, then her wanting your help. C'mon, end this BS game. Its over.
Don't feel guilty about sticking with NC. Its for everyone's own good. Especially yours.
Remember, you were NC for 9 months before you posted...
icalltheshot
Oct 4, 2010, 04:28 PM
I dated this new girl on the weekend Friday. We went to eat dinner and then I ask what she wanted to do and she said let hang out so we went for a drink. I took her home after that. The next day I txt her asking what is her plan for today she didn't reply. I called her today but I didn't get a call back neither. My question is how do I know if she's interested. I don't want to act desperate and call her again. Should I wait for her to call me back? From my experience usually when the girl call back then she's interested if she doesn't then I am just wasting my time. Does that make sense? I am out of the dating game for so long so I am losing touch with reality here lol.
talaniman
Oct 4, 2010, 06:46 PM
Do your own thing, anything you want, even ask someone else out, and have fun, whether the new girl calls or not. Your single, act like it. You have called her twice, that's enough for her, ball is in her court, as far as that goes, but single guys don't worry about call backs, they move right along.
vanheart
Oct 6, 2010, 07:39 PM
You call the shot, remember?
icalltheshot
Oct 6, 2010, 08:27 PM
Do your own thing, anything you want, even ask someone else out, and have fun, whether the new girl calls or not. Your single, act like it. You have called her twice, thats enough for her, ball is in her court, as far as that goes, but single guys don't worry about call backs, they move right along.
You are right I am all worked up over nothing. It is my 1st date in 10 months. I was bold enough to ask her out without being rejected. It gives me hope. I don't want to be that guy in swinger lol.
vanheart
Oct 6, 2010, 08:31 PM
Swinger rocks. Hehehe.
You don't have to be anything you don't want to be.
Just have fun. Be glad. The more dates the better.
Worrying sucks.