I have 2 kid that live in Washington state and I live in houston I want to sign off my rights can you do that or not I was told the only way was if my ex wife got married and the man wanted to adoped my 2 kids can anoy help me with this

Would this be to avoid paying child support? That would be the very reason you CAN'T do that.

You can relinquish your parental rights, but NOT your parental responsibilities. Which means you will still be liable for child support.

Generally, one only relinquishes their rights to allow someone else to adopt. Otherwise there is no reason to formally relinquish, just don't be a part of their lives.

So I guess thair is no point of signing off my rights why would I want to pay child support if I would never see thim again. Also I was woundering I haven't received any paper work on her half saying any thang about child support

why would i want to pay child support if i would never see thim again.

Its not about what you want, its about supporting children that you brought into the world.

so i guess thair is no point of signing off my rights why would i want to pay child support if i would never see thim again.
Exactly! There is no reason to formally do this.

also i was woundering i havent recived any paper work on her half saying any thang about child support

Did you go through a divorce? Child support is agreed upon (or ordered) during the divorce proceedings. You need to have a copy of the divorce decree and need to get it from your attorney or the court. Its possible there was no support agreement. In which case you are off the hook until she wakes up and applies for support. Also, if she is getting public assistance the family services agency will go after you for support.

Yes I went through a divorce but the court didn't say any thang about child support she lives with her parents and is on medicare also there is a restraining order on me the court said in order for visitation rights I had to go to domestic violence classes and angermeant

I would talk to the family services agency where she lives. If she is getting medicare or other public assistance, then there is a strong likelihood that they will come after you to reimburse what they are paying out for YOUR kids. You want to head this off because if they have to come after you, it will not be pretty.

They don't make it easy do they I mean if she wants child support shouldn't I get something in the mail say to call this number or send something back

You are missing my point here. Apparently, in the divorce she didn't ask for support. If she was supporting herself then that would be the end of it, unless she filed for support later on (which she could do). In that case you would receive notice of a court hearing where support could be ordered.

But, if she is getting public assistance, that means the government is spending taxpayer money to support YOUR kids. Now I don't know about you, but I don't like my tax dollars going to support some kids the father has financially abandoned. The government doesn't much like it either. So they will go after you to recover the taxpayer dollars they spent on behalf of YOUR kids.

What you were told was pretty much correct. That'd be the only way. And, as Scott's been telling you, any public assistance that your ex has been receiving on behalf of your kids you are going to have to reimburse.

Most of the time child support is a whole different case than the divorce. I'm sure you will be served papers to go to court to determine support. I'm not trying to sound rude, but why don't you try to get visitation. Who cares if you have to go to anger management? Think about your kids!! So, many times I read on here about men wanting to sign over their rights so they don't have to pay. What is wrong with "some" of the men today? I can't imagine having a child and not wanting to support it. It makes me sick! So, with that being said... Please do what is right! Support YOUR kids.

Most of the time child support is a whole different case than the divorce. I'm sure you will be served papers to go to court to determine support.

Any official child support has to be court ordered. Its either part of the divorce agreement or may be part of a subsequent court action. A parent cannot be ordered to pay support without a court action.

Well, that is how my proceedings went. We were divorced and then custody and support was a whole different issue.

Not sure what you went through, but its not the usual way these things happen.

Why on earth would you want to sign away your rights to your children? You created them and you should be responsible for them.. you said that if you are still going to have to pay support why should you sign away your rights? So , obviously you just don't want:confused: the responsiblility of raising them.. Dont you think you should have thought about that before you created them?? For your information , you WOULD NOT have to pay child support once u waive your parental rights.. but what a burden for your children to live with knowing their own "daddy" didn't want them.. SHAME ON YOU!

Any official child support has to be court ordered. Its either part of the divorce agreement or may be part of a subsequent court action. A parent cannot be ordered to pay support without a court action.
A parent IS responsible for support once that child is born... It is YOUR responsibility to make sure the child is cared for... If you choose NOT to support that child, whether it be 1 month or 10 years the state will charge you for the amount of time that child was not supported.. If you are not ready to be a parent keep it in your PANTS!! :eek:

Waterman82: ScottGem gives you good information, I just wanted to point out a couple of things. One is: it might not be true that where Waterman lives, or where his ex lives, termination of parental rights does not excuse you from paying child support. In some cases, depending on the type of proceeding, if parental rights are terminated, the state will NOT go after that parent for support. It is true that if the mother is receiving aid from the county they will seek reimbursement, but there may be reasons this has not happened yet. If there is a domestic violence restraining order in place in your case, Waterman82, you need to be VERY CAREFUL not to make any attempts to contact your ex, or send any messages through anyone else to her. Violation of a restraining order can have criminal consequences.

If you are going to be ordered to pay child support, you will be notified. Don't duck if you see a process server coming your way.

why on earth would you want to sign away your rights to your children?? you created them and you should be responsible for them..you said that if you are still going to have to pay support why should you sign away your rights?? so , obviously you just dont want:confused: the responsiblility of raising them..Dont you think you should of thought about that before you created them??? For your information , you WOULD NOT have to pay child support once u waive your parental rights..but what a burden for your children to live with knowing their own "daddy" didnt want them..SHAME ON YOU!
I am not being abusive, I am just stating the facts. If someone were so adament about not wanting children , then he should have taken precautions so it would not happen.The children are the innocent victims here. My friend has a child whom decided to waive his parental rights, so therefor once you sign away your "right" to be that child's parent... you DO NOT have to pay support because you are no longer"legally" the parent... and needless to say, this young girl is now 16 years old and wonders every day why her daddy didn't want her.. All I am trying to say, is that you created this child, why not step up to the plate and be a parent, and maybe you will see this is the most rewarding thing inlife... walk away and someday you will regret it.

In most cases the woman is the custodial parent and the father the one who pays support. It is a fact that more women ordered to pay support - default - than do men, yet the feminist movement has successfully and unfairly given the "deadbeat" label to dads. What the majority of women fail to understand is that most men want to pay support. The problem is that the ordered amounts are too high. I was a man abused by his wife who had to get away from her. The court awarded her everything including the children. 30% of my income goes to taxes and 40% to support. Which means I take home 30 cents for every dollar I earn. Which leaves not enough to cover rent and food. My ex's income has tripled since the divorce and she and my children live a great life. I on the other hand am considering waiving my parental rights simply because I may not have a choice. I need to eat to live and if I oblige the court order I will be dead from starvation in a matter of weeks. I'm sure many men paying support can relate.

In most cases the woman is the custodial parent and the father the one who pays support. It is a fact that more women ordered to pay support - default - than do men,

What is your source for that statement? It would seem to me that in the rare cases that women are ordered to pay support, they would most likely be able to afford it.



What the majority of women fail to understand is that most men want to pay support. The problem is that the ordered amounts are too high.

I wouldn't doubt that our system is so flawed. But I wonder if you have done anything to try to modify the payments.



I on the other hand am considering waiving my parental rights simply because I may not have a choice.

Have you read the other responses on that. As peviously noted giving parental rights does NOT relieve you of financial responsibility.

Well, you might have got the raw end of the deal but I am here to tell you that it's not always the case. I get $275.00 per month. That doesn't even pay half of my child's daycare. Does that sound fair?

You can take her to court for a child support modification. The court will review your income and expenses. If they feel you are paying too much they will lower it.. or The judge may just tell you to get a second job..

Hi Scottgem,

Yes I now see that waiving rights is not an option. I have one of the worst scenarios I have ever seen - literally. Getting a 2nd job solves nothing since most of what I earn is eaten up by taxes and an a child support system that goes up as a percentage. It is like a dog chasing it's tail. Paying support for 1 or 2 children is easy. I have 4. My ex is abusive and self destructive. Mentally unsound. She is disabled in part by her own hand, something that occurred after the divorce. She garners sympathy and is a Jeckyl & Hyde person. I look like the "bad guy". Try fighting an abusive disabled woman.

I would prefer to build wealth for the children. But she blows all the money on fast food and living the high life by her definition. In the end she'll be dead as her health is going downhill, I'll be bankrupt and the children will have nothing. I refuse to give this abuser $$$ which does not go for the care of the children. Great system we have (Sarcasm). In this case - the system IS failing my children.

I really feel bad for you guys because you actually care about your kids. It's just that you are being taken advantage of. It sucks that the system fails some of us. You are paying too much and my ex isn't paying enough. It sucks! Good luck! Don't give up your rights for your kids sake! Fight for your kids! They deserve it.

If she is that unstable and isn't using the child support to properly support the children, then bring this up in court and have the kids live with you.

Firearcher, I just wanted to say how very sorry I am that you ended up in that position. I have represented many men who have been ordered to pay extraordinary amounts of support, and, consequently, they are living with their parents again, or alone and below the poverty level. It is a sad fact that courts often refuse to look at someone's EXPENSES when allocating support, and only look at their INCOME. This is the primary reason that I push couples toward mediation and staying out of court whenever possible. I am truly sorry for you, and hope that as your children age, your burden will ease.

Thank you for the replies. I wish there were easy answers but I've found none for myself personally and I suspect my future is in prison because I cannot pay the amounts of support without paying rent & food. If I pay the support - I have nothing left for food & rent. So I will become what they call a dead beat dad who does not want to support his kids statistically yet that is untrue. I totally understand why men are driven to suicide or they just crack and commit murder. I don't agree with it - but I understand it and there are days I nearly lose it myself. The primary interest of the court is to "do what is best for the children". As an adult I would reduce my standard of living so that my father (or mother) has a decent standard equal to my own. But jaded ex spouses are in control and it is THEIR best interests that are served and NOt the children's. WE adults are somebody's CHILDREN. Depriving people of a parent is not the answer. Driving a parent to suicide is not it. Giving copious amounts of money is not the answer. That's how our children get into drugs, alcohol, etc. The custodial parent is not required to provide receipts nor is their income taken into account. If the father made $10,000 per annum and the mother $1 million, he would pay support that would leave him with about $8000 in my case. This would mean that if the couple were still together that a household making $1010,000 per year would spent at MOST $10,000 on the children because it's 50/50. In reality households do not operate that way yet the guidelines do not reflect this. Somehow - this child support system in Canada & the USA needs a rehaul - Big time. And unless people get together and demand revisions nothing will get done.

I'm extremely angry over this system which has been influenced by the feminist movement. We were all children once. Children now will become adults. Indeed we need to do what is best. The current system is not it.