I brought this idea up on a different thread and a few said they were game, but anyone who cares to participate can. (Since this is games, is it OK to post it here, or should this move to the lounge or something?)

The idea is that a scenario is given with very little detail, just a little nibble of some very vague clues. :D Then you ask yes or no questions. Here are the basic, er, guidelines for lack of a better term:

The answer will be yes, no, or irrelevant. Much of the time the answer is irrelevant.

The easiest way to answer is by taking the question very literally, so keep that in mind and don't dismiss things too quickly. Even so, sometimes it can be difficult to answer as above. So I occasionally cheat. :eek:

Don't give up too easily. They can be difficult. People get totally stuck, so the more people, the more likely it gets solved. But in groups, they generally do get solved eventually.

Sorry, I don't always have time to come on 100 times a day, but I'll try to check in periodically so the questions can get answered and you can ask more.

And lastly, if you've heard it before, don't have a hissy if it's a little different. These are never exact. (And they change as they're handed down.)

Ready, set, go!

A man walks into a restaurant and sits down. The waiter comes and the man orders a bowl of albatross soup. The waiter brings the soup and the man takes a spoonful. He then pulls out a gun and shoots himself. Why?

He remembers he's allergic to albatross soup and will die a painful slow death so decides to shoot himself instead.

he remembers hes allergic to albatross soup and will die a painful slow death so decides to shoot himself instead.

No, but that is a creative answer.

He realises the albatross is not kosher and in an effort to save his soul he shoots himself.

No. Your answers can work, but aren't right. The idea is ask questions about the situation to "guide you" to the correct one.

I like going straight for gold!

OK.

Is he on holidays? Or a desert island with one restaurant?

I like going straight for gold!

It's not that you're not allowed. I've just done a few of these and find most people don't just guess them flat out that way.

OK.


is he on holidays?

Irrelevant.


or a desert island with one restaurant?

Irrelevant.

Is it actually albatross soup or does he think its something else?

Poison?

I know this one, I should abstain. :)
When I did my Europe trip in '86 we did a whole bunch of these, they are a blast.

is it actually albatross soup

Yes.


does he think its something else?

No.

I know this one, I should abstain. :)
When I did my Europe trip in '86 we did a whole bunch of these, they are a blast.

That's two people now. I wonder how many have seen it.

I've done very few, and I'm actually terrible at them. Which is why I'm probably better off being on this side of it. LOL. But I'll certainly participate on the question side if someone else wants to do one after this.

I'll be going offline here soon, and won't have access to a computer for most of the next 10 hours. But there better be lots of questions when I get back!

Did the man really want to shoot himself?

Did the man really want to shoot himself?

Yes. (I'm assuming you mean as opposed to accidentally.)

(Nice to have you aboard. I just discovered this is one of the really classic classics and got paranoid everyone knew it.)

Hm... so this also means he wasn't forced, nor he didn't lose any bet from someone else.

Did someone whom he knew died recently?

Did someone whom he knew died recently?[/QUOTE]

Someone died, yes. As for "recently" - I would say not really relevant.

I hope you understood this as 'someone else than the man'.

Did the man made a promise of some sort to this now dead person whatsoever before having the soup?

Is the dead person IN the soup?

I hope you understood this as 'someone else than the man'.

Did the man made a promise of some sort to this now dead person whatsoever before having the soup?

Irrelevant.

is the dead person IN the soup?

No.

Is the man depressed?

Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
I hope you understood this as 'someone else than the man'.

Did the man made a promise of some sort to this now dead person whatsoever before having the soup?

Irrelevant.

OK, you've got me wondering - what "someone else than the man"?

OK, you've got me wondering - what "someone else than the man"?

I was thinking of a scenario of something like two lovers... the woman died recently, the albatross soup was her favourite meal (strange tastes :o)... and he took the soup to remember her, before ending his life so that he won't suffer of her death anymore. Or something of the sort

Is the man depressed?

Sometimes asking for clarification is the proper answer.

Depressed probably isn't the best word, and if you mean like someone being depressed for several weeks or even years, then no. But that may be misleading - perhaps find a different way to ask or clarify your thinking here.

I was thinking of a scenario of something like two lovers... the woman died recently, the albatross soup was her favourite meal (strange tastes :o)... and he took the soup to remember her, before ending his life so that he won't suffer of her death anymore. Or something of the sort

Interesting. But no, nothing like that.

If your depression question is along this same scenario, then no.

Is it because of the taste? ;)

OK, still not all that tired, but have to start getting ready for work in like 3 hours, so going to attempt to lie down and catch what would be a nap at this point. Boy, I'm going to feel like carp-ola.

Was the man sick?

Is it because of the taste? ;)

Yes. I thought you weren't playing.

was the man sick?

No.

Oh? So... would someone kill himself because of the taste of a food?

Ok, my next question:
Did the food taste good? (If this can be asked that is)

So, the soup was so awful he killed himself?

So, the soup was so awful he killed him self?

LOL. No.

Ok, my next question:
Did the food taste good? (If this can be asked that is)

It can be asked, but the answer is irrelevant.

Ok, now I'm at a lost... it's just like the scenario of 'Ratatouille' except that the man here killed himself instead of being overjoyed by the flavour... :confused:

Can we get another hint?

Did he have enough money to pay for the soup?

Does the soup remind him of the person who died?

Yes. I thought you weren't playing.I thought I would help move it along a little.

He perhaps thinks that the albatross would bring bad luck? :confused:

Is it because of the taste? ;)

The albatross was his long lost pet,on realising this he shot himself out of horror.:rolleyes:

Does the soup remind him of the person who died?
Kind of.
(Morgaine is going to kill me as it's only supposed to be Yes or No answers)

Ok, so someone died. The soup reminds him of the person that died, and so he kills himself because of the taste.

Does he have quilt?

Does he have quilt?Do you mean "guilt"? Then yes.

Do you mean "guilt"? Then yes.

LOL! What a man can't have a quilt? LOL! ;) Yes, I did mean guilt.

Did he kill someone?

Did he kill someone?No.

Did he witness someone die?

Hope this doesn't confuse anyone to dump all these into one thread, but I thought it would be easier for everyone to follow the answers. (Let me know if I'm wrong.)


Can we get another hint?

Boy, you give up easily. I also would rather not give hints unless most people want/need them.



Did he have enough money to pay for the soup?

Irrelevant



Does the soup remind him of the person who died?

Question taken literally, yes.



I thought I would help move it along a little.

Maybe a bit too fast but we'll see.



He perhaps thinks that the albatross would bring bad luck?

Irrelevant.



the albatross was his long lost pet,on realising this he shot himself out of horror.

No




Does the soup remind him of the person who died?Kind of.
(Morgaine is going to kill me as it's only supposed to be Yes or No answers)

Not for the answer, cause sometimes that's all that works. But see my answer. However, I don't mind if you comment on one of my answers if you think it doesn't work, but I would appreciate if you'd let me have the fun of finishing something I started, thanks. (If you do one later and I know it, I promise not to answer.)

Did he witness someone die?

Yes.

Does it have anything to do with the waiter?

Did he feel guilty about killing the bird? Maybe it was his pet?

does it have anything to do with the waiter?

No. (I'm surprised that question took that long.)



Did he feel guilty about killing the bird? Maybe it was his pet?

"Improper" question. It's never been established that he killed the bird.

So irrelevant? Not improper?

Thanks it's been fun, but I am out.

[QUOTE=Aurora_Bell;2465142]So irrelevant? Not improper?

No, I meant that you can't ask if he feels guilty about killing the bird if it's never been established that he killed the bird.

Though if you really want an answer I'll say no.



Thanks it's been fun, but I am out.

Sorry to see you go. Granted, this is a tough one. (It just happened to be the one I could remember.)

While I am quite capable of completing complicated riddles and such, it was your condescending attitude that turned me off.

I thought this was supposed to be fun?

What condescending attitude? I merely pointed out that it hadn't been established the he killed the bird. I only called it "improper" for lack of any better term. There was nothing insulting intended in it. If you were playing cards and someone told you the card you just threw was an illegal move would you get all insulted about it?

I WAS trying to have fun. Being called condescending isn't particularly fun either.

While I am quite capable of completing complicated riddles and such, it was your condescending attitude that turned me off.

I thought this was supposed to be fun?

Don't go.

I don't think Morgaine was being condescending, just simply trying to answer the question asked the best possible way under the circumstances. Remember, Morgaine knows the answer and therefore info we do not have.

I really don't want to hijack this thread, I know other people are having fun on it. So, I apologize for my remark, maybe I read too much into her responses. I felt a little like I was being scolded for what I thought was a "yes or no" question. However, I don't want to ruin this for other people, as it seems others are quite enjoying it. I think this is a great strategic question.

So, so far we know he is depressed for some reason, does it have to do with the death of the bird?

No, I wasn't scolding you. Really, I was trying to give "rules" but did not want to use that word, because there aren't any "official rules." Whoever does it kind of gets to make up how they want to do it. I guess guidelines is a better term. Or like Hexxie said, it can be difficult from this side if I don't know exactly what you mean, or you throw in conclusions that have never been made.


So, so far we know he is depressed for some reason, does it have to do with the death of the bird?

Like this one, I assume means does his depression have to do with the death of the bird?

No.

In this case, it doesn't matter how you said it, but you never know when it could. ("It" could have been the entire scenario, right? Well, the entire scenario is not really relevant to the death of the bird. That's a give-away - no one's even asked if the death of the bird was relevant.)

Glad you decided to stay. :-)

Right! :)

Ok, I think you said that he killed himself because of the way the soup tasted, so did the soup not taste how he expected?

Was he used to a different version of this soup?

Was the man in the Navy?

My father used to say a popular saying, (he was Navy), I won't repeat it, but I think I know the answer.

Ok, I think you said that he killed himself because of the way the soup tasted, so did the soup not taste how he expected?

No.


Was he used to a different version of this soup?

Yes.


Was the man in the Navy?

Irrelevant.

My father used to say a popular saying, (he was Navy), I won't repeat it, but I think I know the answer.

If someone thinks they know the answer they can always put SPOILER at the top of the post and go down several lines and then put their conclusion. Then anyone who cares to finish guessing may do so.

Though I may have blown in with the Navy question. Or you may know a different version. I've heard more than one version myself, but I'm trying to stick with what appears to be the popular one. If someone gets the gist, though, that'll count.

Ooohhh, Unky's trick: do white font. And to read it, you highlight it.

Like this: (down there - pointing)
Like this

EDIT: Next post is a spoiler of AN answer. If you'd like to keep guessing, skip over it. Also, this is not either version I've heard but the same main concept is there.

Spoiler














My father used to say when I was caught in a fib or lie, "Don't feed me human and tell me it's Albatross"

A few years later, he told me a "navy tale" about a ship being stranded on a deserted island, the cook told the crew "this island has plenty of Albatross, so that's what we will eat", the people on the island started disappearing, and no one could figure out why. Finally it was just the cook and the Captain left, they were rescued before another meal was made. When the man ate the albatross he realized what real Albatross tasted like, and knew what happened to his ship mates.

As I said above, the main concept is there, in a version I haven't heard. The other two versions I know are below. Highlight everything under this sentence to read them.

Neither version is this detailed, and neither has disappearing people. Both are shipwrecks on a deserted island with no food. And of course people are eaten, he tastes the soup and realizes what happened. So that really is the "main concept" in my opinion.

But in one version, there is not all the stuff about the disappearing people. Just simply that the cook says he's killed an albatross and has fixed some soup. When tasting real albatross soup, the guy freaks because it's against his religious beliefs to eat humans and feeling he has sinned beyond saving, kills himself.

The version I found most online and was using for answers is that it was just him and his wife and the captain. His wife got killed in the shipwreck, so he already knew she was dead. He didn't of course know the captain had used her for food. So when he discovers it was his wife, he simply can't deal with having eaten his wife and commits suicide.

Well, after reading Bella's post (not the spoiler part), I'm somewhat confused by the fact that you said that the man thought the Albatross would bring bad luck to him since I did some research about the albatross and found that there was also a myth of bad luck with killing an albatross among sailors... and then Bella talked about Navys (except that it's completely different from the story I read on wikipedia.

So... um... did he gave fake albatross to someone who then died?

Well, after reading Bella's post (not the spoiler part), I'm somewhat confused by the fact that you said that the man thought the Albatross would bring bad luck to him since I did some research about the albatross and found that there was also a myth of bad luck with killing an albatross among sailors... and then Bella talked about Navys (except that it's completely different from the story I read on wikipedia.

Two responses. One, I didn't say the man thought the albatross would bring bad luck. I said it was irrelevant. Meaning, he may think that, or he may not, I don't know, and it makes no difference in the answer to the scenario. Second, notice I said it was irrelevant whether he was in the Navy. Neither version I know involves the Navy. Her version is an "old navy story," but even given that, her version doesn't necessitate him being in the navy.


So... um... did he gave fake albatross to someone who then died?[/QUOTE]

No.

(There are times when it's difficult from this side, but there are times when it's also terribly funny.)

he remembers hes allergic to albatross soup and will die a painful slow death so decides to shoot himself instead.

If I wasn't in love with you before... well... I'm still not in love with your but I Like you More Larger than Ever in the history of Ever than I did before.

Redhed makes my world spin a little off kilter. And I think that is awesome.

Big kisses back atcha.

Good time for a summary of all questions/answers:

*We know the original setting. But only exactly what I said. Don't assume anything other than what was said.
*redhead started with trying to guess the senario and all I really said was "no" - so we're going to say that him being allergic to albatross, and whether it's kosher, are not releveant
*Is he on holiday? Irrelevant
*Is he on a desert island with only one restaurant? Irrelevant
*Is it actually albotross soup? Yes
*Does he think it's (the soup) something else? No
*Did the man really want to shoot himself? Yes
*Did someone whom he knew died recently? Someone died, yes. As for "recently" - I would say not really relevant.
*Did the man made a promise of some sort to this now dead person whatsoever before having the soup? Irrelevant
*Is the dead person in the soup? No
*Is the man depressed? Depressed probably isn't the best word, and if you mean like someone being depressed for several weeks or even years, then no.
*Is it because of the taste? Yes
*Was the man sick? No
*The soup was so awful he killed himself? No
*Did the food taste good? Irrelevant
*Did he have enough money to pay for the soup? Irrelevant
*Does the soup remind him of the person who died? NK's answer: kinda; my answer: question taken literally, yes
*He perhaps thinks that the albatross would bring bad luck? Irrelevant
*the albatross was his long lost pet,on realising this he shot himself out of horror? No
*Does he have guilt? Yes
*Did he kill someone? No
*Did he witness someone die? Yes
*Does it have anything to do with the waiter? No
*Does he feel guilty about killing the bird? No one asked if he killed it, but no he does not feel guilty about the bird
*Does his depression have to do with the death of the bird? No
*I added: the entire scenario is not relevant to the death of the bird
*Did the soup taste like what he expected? No
*Was he used to a different version of the soup? Yes
*Was the man in the navy? Irrelevant
*Did he give fake albatross to someone who then died? No

That tongue licking the monitor totally cracks me up.

That tongue licking the monitor totally cracks me up.

Irrelevant!

Did our man kill the person who died?

Did our man kill the person who died?

No.

(Sorry, actually finally went to bed a bit earlier last night.)

Re-read the summary. It's already been established that he didn't kill anyone at all.

Did the person who died use to make albatross soup for him?


Did they used to go out for albatross soup together?


Does the person who died have any connection to the albatross soup?

Did the person who died use to make albatross soup for him?

No.



Did they used to go out for albatross soup together?

No.



Does the person who died have any connection to the albatross soup?

Yes... what I'd call an indirect one.

Bloody nora this puzzle is a conundrum.

Let me make sure I have this right:

Someone died, who had a(n indirect) connection to the soup, that reminded the man of them.

The soup was a different versioin than the man was accustomed to and upon tasting it, he felt guilty and shot himself?

Is this right so far?

Ah, it's late, so Europe is back with us now.

Well, it's difficult, but I've found these types of puzzles to be that way. Have you heard the common one that there's a dead man lying on an island, why? There's like a trillion different reasons for that but you have to find the "correct" one, though I also think there's a couple of different versions of it. These things can take a while and take some patience, and you definitely have to like this sort of thing.

Although there are some lateral thinking problems which just have a pretty straight-forward flat-out answer, but still require thinking outside the box. I may throw some of those onto the other riddle threads.

If you want the answer it's in posts #66 & 67. Or would you like a hint?

Someone died, who had a(n indirect) connection to the soup, that reminded the man of them.

Uh, something like that. (Don't know what you're thinking here so hope that's not misleading.)


The soup was a different versioin than the man was accustomed to and upon tasting it, he felt guilty and shot himself?

Correct.

Hint please. I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet.

Ok, new thought:

Is there something wrong with our boy?

Is he mental?

On medication?

Well, a hint would be welcome! :p

Just did my AMC this year (do you remember the ones of last year morgaine?). This time, I'm sure I did some more numbers well more than last time :) Now, just hoping that I'll be higher up in the rankings. I'll be posting them soon (maybe in a day or two).

Ok, new thought:

Is there something wrong with our boy?

Is he mental?

On medication?

No to all. Well, the medication is irrelevant, but any sane person in his position could do the same, so no he's not a loon or anything.

Hint, hmm... I'll have to think of something. (I'm grabbing some food. I'll try to think of a hint and you a question while I'm doing that. For the moment I'd say to concentrate on what you're already on: the soup reminded him of the person, and that it's not what he expected.)

Well, a hint would be welcome! :p

Just did my AMC this year (do you remember the ones of last year morgaine?). This time, I'm sure I did some more numbers well more than last time :) Now, just hoping that I'll be higher up in the rankings. I'll be posting them soon (maybe in a day or two).

Yes, I remember. I gave up on your last set fairly soon. Are these any harder?

so no he's not a loon or anything.


He's not an albatross either. Hahahaha!

Er, sorry. I really need some food in me!

All right, I'm thinking something but it's morbid. In order for it to work the man has to be blind.

Is he blind?

he's not an albatross either. Hahahaha!

Er, sorry. I really need some food in me!

I like it :D

Some, I find a little harder (until I find their solutions that is ;)), the rest, it's similar in difficulty to the previous ones :)

Was the dead man a friend of our man?

Alright, I'm thinking something but it's morbid. In order for it to work the man has to be blind.

Is he blind?

Sorry, no.

A lot of these puzzles are morbid though. Kind of strange. But now I'm curious what the heck you're thinking. :)

Was the dead man a friend of our man?

I'll call that a yes. (There's also an assumption in there that's never been established. However, it can work this way as well.)

I'm finding I'm not very good with hints. So I will just say that, except for asking if our man killed the dead person, no one has asked anything about the circumstances of the death.

Ok, just to clarify some things:
Our man shot himself with his own gun, killing himself with this one shot, right?

Did the dead man commit suicide too?

Ok, just to clarify some things:
Our man shot himself with his own gun, killing himself with this one shot, right?

It's only relevant that he committed suicide, nothing more. (He could've ODed on heroin for all we care.)


Did the dead man commit suicide too?

No.

Yes, I was making sure our man was dead now, just in case.

Is a third party also involved? (the one who killed our man's 'friend')

Yes, I was making sure our man was dead now, just in case.

I noticed that no one ever actually established that he was dead, they assumed. And really, it's still only relevant that it was suicide, and not even that he accomplished the job. :p


Is a third party also involved? (the one who killed our man's 'friend')

The answer to the actual question is yes. What you put in parenthesis is another assumption that has never been established.

Okay... so... is this third party the one who killed our man's 'friend'?

Okay... so... is this third party the one who killed our man's 'friend'?

The assumption is still there. :rolleyes:

Since we're to the point of hints anyway...

The first assumption you made was that the dead person was a man! In the version I was trying to follow, this was not even true. But I let it go cause it can still work. (Though the version I was doing gives it a better punch.)

Yes, there's a third party, in all 3 versions. This is important. But in two of the three versions, you're making yet another assumption that is not even in those versions, obviously meaning it's not terribly important to the main gist of the story. While your assumption can work, I think you'll get yourself off thinking better about the total circumstances surrounding the death if you get yourself off this assumption.

If you want what is going to be a bit of a hint:
Who the heck said anyone killed the friend?

Sorry, got to get to bed so that I don't end up with 2 hours sleep like the other night. :-)

Well, fact 1 , the friend is dead.
Fact two, our man feel guilt about the dead person.
Fact three, the friend didn't commit suicide.
So, I conclude that the friend was killed, for otherwise, I don't think that our man will be feeling guilty...

Or is this not so? :confused:

Sorry, no.

A lot of these puzzles are morbid though. Kind of strange. But now I'm curious what the heck you're thinking. :)

Well you shot my theory! I was thinking along the lines of the Andes flight disaster. Only with a shipwreck of sorts because of the albatross. But my theory only works if the man was blind, that way he wouldn't know what was being fed to him.

Back to the drawing board, I guess! And I thought I was sooooo close!

Well, fact 1 , the friend is dead.
Fact two, our man feel guilt about the dead person.
Fact three, the friend didn't commit suicide.
So, I conclude that the friend was killed, for otherwise, I don't think that our man will be feeling guilty...

or is this not so? :confused:

Why does he necessarily have to feel guilty about the person getting killed? That isn't what he feels guilty about.

Well you shot my theory! I was thinking along the lines of the Andes flight disaster. Only with a shipwreck of sorts because of the albatross. But my theory only works if the man was blind, that way he wouldn't know what was being fed to him.

Back to the drawing board, I guess! And I thought I was sooooo close!

You are. I don't know that you have the exact right details, but you seem to be onto the idea. When you started asking the questions you did, I thought you had it. But then that blind thing -- why does he have to be blind?

so... following the review of q&a...

why albatross soup? Who the hell orders that?

he shot himself after tasting it and it didn't taste as he expected.

that suggests he has had it before. Maybe. Has he had it before?

was he lost at sea?

was his friend lost at sea with him?

did he cook the soup?

did his friend cook the soup?

cant figure out how to ask who cooked the damn soup in a yes or no answer...

=P

In the meantime, a simple riddle to bide the time...

Bethany died in lousiaina on a Saturday in July. Danielle unexpectedly died in the Caribbean ocean on a Thursday in August of the same year. Both were born in the same year.

Why would people be happier for danielle's death?

why albatross soup? Who the hell orders that?

That's not a yes or no question. Of course, you can always ask if the fact that it was albatross soup is relevant.


he shot himself after tasting it and it didn't taste as he expected.

That's been established already.


that suggests he has had it before. Maybe. Has he had it before?

No.


was he lost at sea?

Yes.


was his friend lost at sea with him?

Yes.


did he cook the soup?

No.


did his friend cook the soup?

No. (Little difficult when you're dead.)

Actually I shouldn't have added that. There really is nothing at all saying that the friend didn't die between the time the soup was made and when said friend died. We've never established a time line there. However, it is true the person was already dead and therefore could not have made the soup.



Can't figure out how to ask who cooked the damn soup in a yes or no answer...

The cook in the kitchen at the restaurant made the damn soup.

Sometimes is best to ask "Is it relevant that..." and if the answer is no you can stop the line of questioning and not worry about it. So is it relevant who made the soup? No. In fact, I'm only assuming the cook in the kitchen made it. Maybe Campbell's made it and it was in a can.

in the meantime, a simple riddle to bide the time...

bethany died in lousiaina on a saturday in july. danielle unexpectedly died in the carribean ocean on a thursday in august of the same year. both were born in the same year.

why would people be happier for danielle's death?

Literally happier, or just less upset?

no sh@t the cook in the fY^king restautaunt made the damn soup. Really? This isn't about that. Who made the damn soup the first time he had it or thought he had it? What were the circumstances?

k. alex... the answer in the form of a question is "did he think he'd had it before?"

is it relevant if he thinks he's had it before? Yes or frikin no?

nobody orders albatross soup off the cuff.

Literally happier, or just less upset?

Can't answer yes or no to this.

And please explain the difference between literally happier and less upset.

no sh@t the cook in the fY^king restautaunt made the damn soup. really? this isnt about that. who made the damn soup the first time he had it or thought he had it? what were the circumstances?

k. alex... the answer in the form of a question is "did he think he'd had it before?"

is it relevent if he thinks he's had it before? yes or frikin no?

nobody orders albatross soup off the cuff.

You're getting entirely too rude about it. The idea is you ask yes or no questions. I answer them. I'm answering them. If you're frustrated, fine. Ask for a hint. But stop getting pissed cause I answer the damn questions you ask.

It's never been establish that he'd had it at any other time, and in fact, I do believe I just said he hadn't. Since the ONLY soup that has ever been established was in this restaurant, then how the hell am I supposed to know you've made some assumption in your head that you've never told me about?

It's possible it was relevant who made it in the restaurant. Who are you to say that it wasn't relevant and then start getting all snotty and sarcastic with me and cussing over the whole damn thing? This was totally uncalled for.

I can't stop you from posting, but I sure as hell don't have to sit here and tolerate this and I don't have to answer you.

cant answer yes or no to this.



I don't recall you saying that we were following the same rules, or that this was supposed to be the same type of puzzle.

Do you always assume people are mind readers?

Sorry, folks, kp just ruined all the fun for me by being a class-A jerk.

I'm calling hexxie the winner. The only issue there: if I hand you a bowl of soup and tell you it's duck soup, if you can see it, and you've never had it before, would you know it wasn't duck soup? No reason he had to be blind. But I think you know the answer.

If you wish to post your answer, feel free and I'll confirm it. Otherwise I'm done cause I really just don't need that kind of crap from someone right now, especially on what was just supposed to be a fun little game.

Sorry, folks, kp just ruined all the fun for me by being a class-A jerk.
Yeah, sorry about that. To all.

I was extremely jerkish last night. Bad day, worse night. No excuse to look for a fight on a riddle thread. Just found out my ex had a second affair I didn't know about. I'm I was in a Mood last night.

Have liked this thread. Please keep it up. Ill unsub and keep my irish temper aside.

Apology gladly accepted. Especially since coincidentally, it hadn't been a good couple of nights for me either. Nothing nearly as serious as an affair of course (eek!), but I left another site I'd been hanging around because I'd gotten fed up with some of the people there. (Rather cliquish sort of group who like to boss everyone around and scare people away, etc.)

That was two nights ago. So I came over here and had myself a good time doing puzzles, which is much more what I'd prefer to be doing than that other place anyway. So it actually had a nice calming effect on me.

But I wasn't totally over it, so I kind of didn't need this last night. But it does mean I certainly understand the rotten mood cause I've had a lousy week myself.

You are. I don't know that you have the exact right details, but you seem to be onto the idea. When you started asking the questions you did, I thought you had it. But then that blind thing -- why does he have to be blind?

I see your point. I guess I just got hung up on that. Originally I was thinking they were on a raft and that's how the blind thing came into play, because that's the only way he won't know. But, of course, they could be on an island. I get it now.

On a raft... ah, I see where you're coming from. But I know of several other puzzles on rafts/boats. :-)

I am just marking a spot. I enjoyed following along this one. I will definitely tell this one later.

Three versions of the answer are back around post 66 I think? Don't know if you caught those.

Yes, I did catch it. I still haven't had time to tell it yet but really want to soon. Maybe a good one for the dinner table tonight. I will post one here in a second, hopefully people come and read.

Here is a riddle that has different versions and different names used but I am going to tell it the way I heard it and it goes the same way as far as the yes and no questions.

Also I told this one before and I am sure I answered it so try not to answer if you have heard it os seen it before. Thank you very much. Here goes:

You walk into your apartment and find Fred and Wilma dead on your kitchen floor surrounded by water and glass. Barney is asleep on the couch. How did Fred and Wilma die?

Did all the three know each other?

Did all the three know each other?

Yes

Were they friends?

Were they friends?

I guess you could say they were, I think I will say yes.

Ok, hopefully get more responses. I will be back tomorrow.

I will play, although I'm not always terrific at these. Well, really, the albatross one was the first I played and I was LOST. I've done not too badly on some other ones - at least I get how they work.

(Might be a good idea to start a new thread if these are going to be longish, or maybe that's just my opinion, don't know. I do think it would be good if no other puzzles got in the middle of this to confuse things.)

Anyway...

Is Barney a human being?

Is Barney deaf?

Do Fred and Wilma live in this apartment too?

Did I expect Fred and Wilma to be there?

Is anything else on the kitchen floor?

Is this broken glass?

Did I kill them (on purpose or accidentally)?

OK, I walked into the apartment, which implies I was outside of the apartment. Were Fred and Wilma already dead before I last walked outside the apartment?

Did the glass play some kind of role in their death?

Why do these things always seem to involve death? (OK, you don't have to answer that one.)

I will play, although I'm not always terrific at these. Well, really, the albatross one was the first I played and I was LOST. I've done not too badly on some other ones - at least I get how they work.

(Might be a good idea to start a new thread if these are going to be longish, or maybe that's just my opinion, dunno. I do think it would be good if no other puzzles got in the middle of this to confuse things.)

Anyway...

Is Barney a human being? No

Is Barney deaf? No

Do Fred and Wilma live in this apartment too? Yes

Did I expect Fred and Wilma to be there? Yes

Is anything else on the kitchen floor? No

Is this broken glass? Yes

Did I kill them (on purpose or accidentally)? No

OK, I walked into the apartment, which implies I was outside of the apartment. Were Fred and Wilma already dead before I last walked outside the apartment? No

Did the glass play some kind of role in their death? No

Why do these things always seem to involve death? (OK, you don't have to answer that one.) :)


You answers follow each question.

Was the door locked before I entered the apartment?

Was the door locked before I entered the apartment?

Yes

Could someone enter the apartment from another way? (from windows for example)

Could someone enter the apartment from another way? (from windows for example)

No

Is Barney a dog?

Is Barney a dog?

Yes

Did Barny kill Wilma and Fred?

I don't know if this has been asked but, are Wilma and Fred Humans?

Did Barny kill Wilma and Fred?

I don't know if this has been asked but, are Wilma and Fred Humans?

Yes, barney killed Fred and Wilma.

No, Fred and Wilma are not humans.



You are coming along very fast. 3 questions and you almost have it solved. Good job.

Are Fred and Wilma toys?

Are Fred and Wilma fish?

Are Fred and Wilma toys?

Are Fred and Wilma fish?

Ok, you have definitely heard this one before haven't you Bella? Haha. Nobody ever makes there assumptions right off the bat, but I believe you though because you just put a few clues together and went off some of the other questions other people ask and it makes it a bit easier. Anyway, you are almost there to the big prize Bella.

Yes, Fred and Wilma are fish.

No honestly I swear I have never heard this one before. I just guessed. I looked at the other questions. I know how it looks, but honestly, I have never heard this one before.

So Barney knocked the fish tank over, and killed the fish?

Is there more to the story?

Oh wait, did Barney see his reflection in the glass, and think it was another dog?

Yes, I believe you Bella, I really do. Unless I forgot something then you solved it. The killing was an accident though. Barney didn't do it on purpose. You have won, good job.

Congrats Bella! :)

I was busy trying to fix things here... and there are still more which come up... too long of a story.

Woo HoO!! What did I win? A toaster?

Honestly, I have never heard this one before!! Kind of reminds me of a Law and Order episode.

Woo HoO!!! What did I win?? A toaster??

Honestly, I have never heard this one before!!! Kind of reminds me of a Law and Order episode.

You won a toaster oven. Sorry, and darn the luck but now you can feel smart and gloat. Is that how you spell that, anyway, I still believe you Bella

:) okay now do another one.

Ok I will than.

A man lives on the twelfth floor of an apartment building. Every morning he takes the elevator down to the lobby and leaves the building. In the evening, he gets into the elevator, and, if there is someone else in the elevator -- or if it was raining that day -- he goes back to his floor directly. Otherwise, he goes to the tenth floor and walks up two flights of stairs to his apartment.

Why?

Back on Barney. I think it's a lot because I asked if he was human. I've not heard that one before, but for some reason I just got it into my head that Barney was not a person - I mean, who else would be curled up asleep oblivious to someone's death? It did in fact occur to me that Barney killed them (though I didn't think how).

It also did occur to me that Fred and Wilma were not humans either, and I almost just asked about all 3 all at once, but decided to get the answer on Barney first. (That's what I get - whole thing passed me by when I was busy working.)

As soon as I realized Fred and Wilma were not human, I was basically already onto the idea as well.

EDIT: Probably doesn't hurt that I just watched Fish Called Wanda again recently. LOL.

As for the man in the apartment, I've heard that one... except there wasn't the exception of "unless someone's in the elevator or it's been raining" when I've done it. I get the someone else in the elevator part. I'll have to think about what rain has to do with it.

By the way, this is a super common one. I need to find the circus one - I haven't seen it online anywhere except for where I originally heard it.

Oh a thought below:

He's got an umbrella and uses it to push the button???

Have yous heard the one.

There is a man in the middle of a room hanging from a rope with a puddle of water underneath him.
How did he hang himself?

So no one wants to do mine?

Morgaine, your correct with that after thought.

Is he a germ freak?

No

Does he touch the elevator buttons by hand?

does he touch the elevator buttons by hand?

Oo good one, um yes and no.

Is button 12 broken?

Is button 12 broken?


No

SO its raining and when someone else is in there that he goes to his level.

Does he use his hands to press 12?

No

Does he ask the other person to press the number when he gets into the elevator?

Yes.

So he asks the other person when they are there and when it is raining...

Does he use an umbrella?

Is he too short to press 11 and 12?

Yes!

And Bingo!

He is a midget (is that PC? ) and when no one is in the elevator, or it's not raining, he has no way to press the buttons. Why he didn't bring a stick is beyond me :p

Gosh I feel smart now lol.

And you should!

You should re post yours now, so we can work on that one! :)

There is a man in the middle of a room hanging from a rope with a puddle of water underneath him.
How did he hang himself?

Did he hang himself?

Did he hang him self?

Yes

Was it on purpose?

Was it on purpose?

Yes

Was the room filled with water to start?

Was the room filled with water to start?

No

He used blocks of ice.

HORRID way to try to hang yourself, though, unless they were pyramid-ed and light enough to kick away.

He used blocks of ice.

HORRID way to try to hang yourself, though, unless they were pyramid-ed and light enough to kick away.

Correct! Yes it is horrible!

Very tortuous.

I could have answered the past two if I were able to be here yesterday... :(

Was too busy with homework...

Good ones Bella and aimee :)