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kingajsucks
Jul 28, 2010, 06:01 PM
Firstly, let me start by saying that I am posting this for help or advice, so if you are one of the people who are just going to post up a lecture rationalizing what I say, save it and comment elsewhere...

Im writing this because me and my girlfriend want to seek help with what we both feel is a psychic ability she's had for her entire life. She's only recently started to open up to me about what goes on and what she sees, and how frustrated she is because she doesn't know what to do to make it better.

I've done enough research and seen enough programs to know that spirits are more attracted to people with these types of powers. However this isn't anything that either of us find "fascinating" and want to talk to someone who might help her be normal, or help us understand how to better deal with this.

Im not psychic myself in any way, but I've experienced some of the same odd behavior that other people describe. I however am not used to it, and frankly am not amused at all. We talk sometimes about taking our relationship further, but we'd both like it to just be the two of us, not the two of us plus nightly company.

I won't start going into detail about what she describes to me and what I myself have experienced because its irrelevant. It's all the same stuff you have heard over and over again. So if anybody has any information or rescorces that can help, we would really, really appreciate it. Thanks.

martinizing2
Jul 28, 2010, 06:22 PM
The term psychic has many definitions, without knowing what branch you claim it is impossible to do much.
Is it seeing the future? Reading minds? A spirit medium? Or what? Without details, I don't know how to advise you.

KISS
Jul 28, 2010, 06:28 PM
Totally agree.

kingajsucks
Jul 28, 2010, 06:35 PM
I apoligize for any confusion, but I think I mentioned that there were spirits being attracted to her. There's no future prediction or fortune telling involved.

martinizing2
Jul 28, 2010, 06:54 PM
I apoligize for any confusion, but I think I mentioned that there were spirits being attracted to her. Theres no future prediction or fortune telling involved.

That is still not much to try and form an opinion as to even what is it you are asking. Seeking help is mentioned. But help in stopping it, understanding it , or trying to make it stronger.

I have personally seen and experienced too much to discount anything. But information is necessary or the advice will be weak or useless.

I assure you I will not ridicule or you or just brush your concerns off.

The idea of this site is to offer help.

KansasCity
Jul 28, 2010, 07:15 PM
This is just my opinion, OK? The bible has a lot to say on the subject of spirits, since it's the best selling book of all time you might want to take a look. According to Gods Holy word all spirits who distrub you or torment you are evil and should be taken very seriously,and according to what I have read, they are allowed on people for various reasons, unforgiveness seems to be a big one. I would call around to a few churches and see what they tell you but more than likely this will take more action than just wishing them away.

kingajsucks
Jul 28, 2010, 07:23 PM
I understand, but I thought I was pretty clear in my initial posting without going into entertaining ghost stories.

But yes, we are seeking help in possibly stopping it all together. She doesn't want to be able to see or hear the entities or appiritions anymore. I've never been one to just jump to a conclusion, so let me just say (again, without going into spooky stories) that I believe what she is describing because even though I don't see the activity in its entirety as she does, I've seen and heard enough to know there is no logic that can explain it away.

So other than calling 1-800-Psychic, we don't know where to look for help or information.

kingajsucks
Jul 28, 2010, 07:29 PM
Were were both raised Catholic, but you can't exactly call us "devoted" Catholics. However, the thought has crossed my mind. It's just I'd like to know exactly what to say when we go. "Ghosts follow her. Make them go away..." won't really be a convincing or even concerning angle.

And as far as "unforgiveness" goes, she's had this since she was a little girl. What she could be unforgiven for, I could not imagine.

kingajsucks
Jul 28, 2010, 07:39 PM
Martinizing, is there a way to continue this through email? If Im going to have to go into fine detail, I'd rather not post it up for all to see. I don't exactly feel awesome talking about all this, you know?

martinizing2
Jul 28, 2010, 08:59 PM
I am not clear on the policy here. Give me time to be sure .

Hexxie
Jul 28, 2010, 10:20 PM
Dear Kingajsucks,

I can sympathize with you not wanting to go into detail. Unfortunately, Martinizing2 is right. Without knowing more about the situation it is hard to know in what direction to steer you. For example, I might not advise someone with audible abilities the same as I would someone with sentient abilities. There are also other things to consider such as to what extent, location, duration, to name a few. Perhaps you can elaborate without going into intimate detail? Me, personally, I need more information before I can help you out.

Good luck to you and your girlfriend.

Alty
Jul 28, 2010, 11:01 PM
Sadly I don't have any advice or help to offer. I really wish I did, and I can only wish you and your girlfriend the best.

I'm posting to let you know that asking someone to continue a discussion offline is against the rules of this site. There are many reasons for this, one is that posting all the info here can and will help someone else looking for similar advice. Another point is that private conversations cannot be monitored for accuracy.

PM's on this site (private messages) are for chatting, to let people know about a thread they may have missed, for friendly back and forth. It is not to be used to offer advice.

I hope you understand and again, I wish you the best of luck.

martinizing2
Jul 29, 2010, 12:20 AM
Thank you for the clarification .

Alty
Jul 29, 2010, 12:22 AM
Thank you for the clarification .

No problem. :)

martinizing2
Jul 29, 2010, 12:26 AM
Martinizing, is there a way to continue this through email? If Im going to have to go into fine detail, I'd rather not post it up for all to see. I dont exactly feel awesome talking about all this, you know?
I understand the hesitation . I have had experiences I would be more than cautious to tell to anyone anywhere.

But the people here are here to help and not ridicule or belittle people asking for help.
There may be some with different ideas that can be of help.

I would encourage you to go on but of course the decision is yours.

Alty
Jul 29, 2010, 12:31 AM
I also want to mention that you're completely anonymous here. No one knows who you are, unless you plan to tell them, and we strongly advise against that and even delete personal info when it's posted, to protect our posters.

That's the beauty of being on a site like this. You can tell your story, without fear of it being linked to your personal life.

The choice is yours, just want you to know that you can be upfront and honest here, and I believe that there are people here that can help you with this issue, but sadly, they need more details in order to help. That's often the way it is before we can give advice.

I hope you come back. If not, I wish you all the best.

Clough
Jul 29, 2010, 12:43 AM
I also want to mention that you're completely anonymous here. No one knows who you are, unless you plan to tell them, and we strongly advise against that and even delete personal info when it's posted, to protect our posters.

That's the beauty of being on a site like this. You can tell your story, without fear of it being linked to your personal life.

The choice is yours, just want you to know that you can be upfront and honest here, and I believe that there are people here that can help you with this issue, but sadly, they need more details in order to help. That's often the way it is before we can give advice.

I hope you come back. If not, I wish you all the best.

I just wanted to add/clarify something...

And, that would be that, true, you can be totally anonymous here. However, if someone knows your user name and it's the same user name that you've used for other sites where other people know who you really are, then I would suggest being very careful about what you post here because this site gets excellent exposure on the Internet.

Thanks!

martinizing2
Jul 29, 2010, 01:26 AM
Were were both raised Catholic, but you can't exactly call us "devoted" Catholics. However, the thought has crossed my mind. It's just I'd like to know exactly what to say when we go. "Ghosts follow her. Make them go away..." wont really be a convincing or even concerning angle.

And as far as "unforgiveness" goes, shes had this since she was a little girl. What she could be unforgiven for, I could not imagine.

Since this was posted I will at least go on from here.

I think asking someone at your church is a great idea. Since the Catholic church still have exorcists (as an example) they obviously take these matters seriously.
It could give you a different perspective and be of great value.

I would tell them straightforwardly , you feel that spirits or some form of entity has been interfering in your life and causing problems. And you are there to ask for opinions and help.

This may be a start to figure this out. And I know these can take a lot of figuring out.


Please get back and continue , I think you can find some answers here of at least some things to do to to find a starting place.

I wish you well and may God help you choose the best way to find what you seek.

kingajsucks
Jul 29, 2010, 05:30 AM
I appreciate the feedback. But Im not sure exactly what kind of details it is that people want me to post. Be specific. The fact that nobody has even asked a specific question as to what "information" Im missing makes me that much more suspicious.

Im here for help or advice. If you can, if you know, if you have the heart, then tell me what you know.

To the ones who have already given an opinion, thank you. Its all I ask.

martinizing2
Jul 29, 2010, 05:42 AM
Well it is hard to figure out exactly what is happening .Without some detail. You said it is irrelevant but it doesn't seem that way from my perspective.

What does your girlfriend see?
What have you experienced ?
Has it seemed to want to do you harm?
Are there any beneficial sides to this?

kingajsucks
Jul 29, 2010, 05:50 AM
I missed Hexxies post. Ok, without going into too much detail...

Extent, well that's hard to describe literally. Apparitions, voices, mood swings, sickness, and that's just on top of whatever happens indoors. Nothing violent, at least not yet.

Location doesn't matter because they follow, or maybe new ones in another location attract, I don't know.

Duration, I can only imagine because of what I recently found out to be called a "hijacking". And that one is what concerns me the most.

kingajsucks
Jul 29, 2010, 05:59 AM
Martini, I pretty much answered this just now except for the "beneficial sides". And of that, there are none. We want it to go away if possible. You might be right, church is probably the first step. I personally am agnostic, so is my girl from what she tells me. But obviously something is happening that should not, so that counts for something. I don't know...

martinizing2
Jul 29, 2010, 06:15 AM
I believe I understand now to a better extent.
IF... I am correct then the experiences are getting more frequent and increasing in length.

More powerful apparitions or the same ones grow stronger.

Hijacking being that control is diminishing or lost to an unknown.

There does seem to be a pattern of progression in similar experiences reported by others. Some seem to have clear intent of control .

What are your feelings about talking to a priest? Maybe a blessing would ease her mind at least. And he may offer some suggestions,

I do know they often require a psychological evaluation before they will do much.

kingajsucks
Jul 29, 2010, 06:32 AM
Well, that's kind of what I've read from other peoples experiences. The church won't give you the time of day if you don't go in proving up and down that you are a devotee. What are we going to do going in and telling them we're agnostic. I won't lie, I seriously doubt she will either.

That's why I posted this. I thought maybe (and believe me, I shudder to use the term) a "proffessional psychic" would have their opinion. I appreciate the advice though.

martinizing2
Jul 29, 2010, 06:35 AM
Martini, I pretty much answered this just now exept for the "beneficial sides". And of that, there are none. We want it to go away if possible. You might be right, church is probably the first step. I personally am agnostic, so is my girl from what she tells me. But obviously something is happening that should not, so that counts for something. I dont know...

From what I have seen and what I have read, the belief was not an issue. Atheists Agnostic, Muslim whatever.
The knowledge and faith of those "around" is a factor.
It cannot hurt.

martinizing2
Jul 29, 2010, 06:40 AM
I have not encountered the devotee aspect. People were helped regardless. May depend on which church is picked.

99.999% of "Professional Psychics " are money grubbing swindlers. Who know how to swindle and put on a show that's all.

But a placebo can set the mind to do what needs to be done sometimes.

kingajsucks
Jul 29, 2010, 06:52 AM
I have not encountered the devotee aspect. People were helped regardless. May depend on which church is picked.

99.999% of "Professional Psychics " are money grubbing swindlers. Who know how to swindle and put on a show that's all.

But a placebo can set the mind to do what needs to be done sometimes.

You're right. That's why I don't want to go to someone who's going to tell me fortune cookie stories. Im sure there's legit psychics out there. At least I believe there has to be now.

As far as "placebos" go, do you mean the church? Because from what I've heard that's exactly what happens. It's OK for a little bit, then it just comes back like a quake.

martinizing2
Jul 29, 2010, 06:57 AM
The mind has the power to stop and/or start things like this.
It is finding the faith in yourself to believe you have the power to stop it that will stop it.
I do believe in God and believe that we all possess the power to do anything . A thimble full of hope is enough to move mountains.
I believe that when you honestly seek God you will find Him

Can't hurt to ask for His help.

I wish you well. I hope you find the help you need . Look where you haven't looked for something new.

kingajsucks
Jul 29, 2010, 07:06 AM
Something I guess we're going to have to keep in mind because we're all out of ideas. It's not all that far fetched anymore I think... And that's a bold statement coming from me... Thanks though, lets see how that goes...

martinizing2
Jul 29, 2010, 07:17 AM
Youre right. Thats why I dont want to go to someone whos going to tell me fortune cookie stories. Im sure theres legit psychics out there. At least I beleive there has to be now.

As far as "placebos" go, do you mean the church? Because from what I've heard thats exactly what happens. It's ok for a little bit, then it just comes back like a quake.

I will not talk about some things I have seen and experienced. It is unbelievable.

Nothing can come back unless you allow it
. The power is in you, me, everyone.

Believing is the way to unlock it
. If you believe because of a church ceremony , or words of a "holy man" make you believe then you begin to understand.

God is in us all. When you seek God you will find Him in yourself. There is the power if you have the faith.

martinizing2
Jul 29, 2010, 07:21 AM
Something I guess we're going to have to keep in mind because we're all out of ideas. It's not all that far fetched anymore I think... And thats a bold statement comming from me... Thanks though, lets see how that goes...

I know what you are going through.

I hope you find what you need. Please keep us informed .

Keep looking and I hope to God you find it.

kingajsucks
Jul 29, 2010, 02:15 PM
I know what you are going through.

I hope you find what you need. Please keep us informed .

Keep looking and I hope to God you find it.

I will post if something seems to make it better or if I have a specific question. Thank you for your input. Hopefully it also helps others who like me have a hard time talking about it...

martinizing2
Jul 29, 2010, 04:20 PM
I will post if something seems to make it better or if I have a specific question. Thank you for your input. Hopefully it also helps others who like me have a hard time talking about it...
Post frequent updates.. writing about what you do can help you sort it out.
Or
Anytime you feel the need to talk
I know how hard it is.

I believe you will succeed . You are honestly searching. Keep your mind open.

Question everything

Alty
Jul 29, 2010, 04:24 PM
Kingajsucks, I hope you come back and keep us posted.

Like I said before, I can't help you with this problem, but I too believe that psychics exist. I believe that the power lies in all of us, some just naturally harness it, but most of us don't understand or won't accept that it exists.

I've had experiences as well, but they are few and far between, always involve the death of loved ones. So far I'm always 100% accurate, which I really hate. I've predicted the date of every loved one that's passed on. I've only been off once, and that was with my dad. I was off by an hour. I wish I had been wrong altogether. :(

When I first came to this site I came to ask one little question. When I got my answer, I thought, okay, no need to return. Months went by, then I got an email that someone had responded. I came, read, started browsing through the site, and I've been here ever since.

The group of people on this site are the best people I've never met. I was weary, scared to trust people on the evil entity known as "the internet", but these people are the best. The advice they give, the amount of caring that they have, they never cease to amaze me in everything they do.

Please keep us posted on how things are going. When we reach out to people, we invest a little of ourselves in them, we worry, we think about how things are going.

Who knows, maybe you'll browse through the site too, see some questions you can answer, help others, pay it forward. :)

I hope so.

Take care. I wish you all the best, and I hope things work out. Wish I could be more help in this. Hey, if you have any questions about bunnies, I'm your girl. ;)

martinizing2
Jul 29, 2010, 04:38 PM
Kingajsucks, I hope you come back and keep us posted.

Like I said before, I can't help you with this problem, but I too believe that psychics exist. I believe that the power lies in all of us, some just naturally harness it, but most of us don't understand or won't accept that it exists.

I've had experiences as well, but they are few and far between, always involve the death of loved ones. So far I'm always 100% accurate, which I really hate. I've predicted the date of every loved one that's passed on. I've only been off once, and that was with my dad. I was off by an hour. I wish I had been wrong altogether. :(

When I first came to this site I came to ask one little question. When I got my answer, I thought, okay, no need to return. Months went by, then I got an email that someone had responded. I came, read, started browsing through the site, and I've been here ever since.

The group of people on this site are the best people I've never met. I was weary, scared to trust people on the evil entity known as "the internet", but these people are the best. The advice they give, the amount of caring that they have, they never cease to amaze me in everything they do.

Please keep us posted on how things are going. When we reach out to people, we invest a little of ourselves in them, we worry, we think about how things are going.

Who knows, maybe you'll browse through the site too, see some questions you can answer, help others, pay it forward. :)

I hope so.

Take care. I wish you all the best, and I hope things work out. Wish I could be more help in this. Hey, if you have any questions about bunnies, I'm your girl. ;)

You,among others, on this site have a gift of knowing what to say and how to say it. Awesome.

Alty
Jul 29, 2010, 04:41 PM
You,among others, on this site have a gift of knowing what to say and how to say it. Awesome.

:o Thanks Martin. :o

kingajsucks
Jul 30, 2010, 02:31 AM
Kingajsucks, I hope you come back and keep us posted.

Like I said before, I can't help you with this problem, but I too believe that psychics exist. I believe that the power lies in all of us, some just naturally harness it, but most of us don't understand or won't accept that it exists.

I've had experiences as well, but they are few and far between, always involve the death of loved ones. So far I'm always 100% accurate, which I really hate. I've predicted the date of every loved one that's passed on. I've only been off once, and that was with my dad. I was off by an hour. I wish I had been wrong altogether. :(

When I first came to this site I came to ask one little question. When I got my answer, I thought, okay, no need to return. Months went by, then I got an email that someone had responded. I came, read, started browsing through the site, and I've been here ever since.

The group of people on this site are the best people I've never met. I was weary, scared to trust people on the evil entity known as "the internet", but these people are the best. The advice they give, the amount of caring that they have, they never cease to amaze me in everything they do.

Please keep us posted on how things are going. When we reach out to people, we invest a little of ourselves in them, we worry, we think about how things are going.

Who knows, maybe you'll browse through the site too, see some questions you can answer, help others, pay it forward. :)

I hope so.

Take care. I wish you all the best, and I hope things work out. Wish I could be more help in this. Hey, if you have any questions about bunnies, I'm your girl. ;)

Thanks Altenweg. It looks like you have it too, or at least a version of it so that means something. But as far as it being in us all, I seriously hope you are wrong about that. I've been hearing bumps and moans at my place too and Im hoping like crazy that something didn't follow me, or us here or whatever. At the same time that's where my own logic kicks in and says NOW Im just being paranoid. I try not to pay attention. I refuse to believe, at least in my home.

martinizing2
Jul 30, 2010, 02:39 AM
This couple here I worry about because I know what they face.
I hope for an update soon.

Anyone believing in prayer ,sending positive energy, directing vibration for strength and healing, or what ever can be done to help another could give it some practice directed at these two. They will need the strength .

kingajsucks
Jul 30, 2010, 03:04 AM
This couple here I worry about because I know what they face.
I hope for an update soon.

Anyone believing in prayer ,sending positive energy, directing vibration for strength and healing, or what ever can be done to help another could give it some practice directed at these two. They will need the strength .

Martini, that was comforting. Thank you.

But if you must please direct most of it towards her. She needs it most. Maybe just a little towards me, whatever is left... (probably not the time for humor, but what can you really do... )

Now Im wondering what you yourself went through, and if you would want to share some of it. You don't have to go into any specifics.

martinizing2
Jul 30, 2010, 05:02 AM
Martini, that was comforting. Thank you.

But if you must please direct most of it towards her. She needs it most. Maybe just alittle towards me, whatever is left... (probably not the time for humor, but what can you really do...)

Now Im wondering what you yourself went through, and if you would want to share some of it. You dont have to go into any specifics.

Because of what you and your lady are facing I feel compelled to relate a few details of some things I was witness to and part of that happened several years ago.

Before I do I am going to have to take some time to sort out how I intend to go about this. It will not be a quick or easy task , I know you understand what I mean.

martinizing2
Jul 30, 2010, 05:17 AM
It is just starting to get light here in my neck of the woods and I have every intention of waiting until full daylight to begin.
There will be some segmentation.

martinizing2
Jul 30, 2010, 09:52 AM
I did not believe in ghosts, spirits, hauntings or much of anything that would be classified as supernatural. There is always a rational and logical reason to be found for anything.

A friend of mine told me she had been having strange things happen to her and around her.
She would hear voices speaking to her when she was alone. Objects would move or fall with no reason while being observed.
And many many other things that were witnessed by her and her two sons that were 11 and 14 at that time.

We had been friends a long time and I had been to her place on numerous occasions and had seen the lights in empty rooms go off or on when nobody was there.

Loud noises like objects being dropped in empty rooms, and what sounded like footsteps upstairs when nobody was there.
It was an old house and I dismissed most of it as old house noises , bad wiring and plumbing.

She called me at work on a Friday and said things were happening that "terrified" her and her sons, and ask if I would come over and talk to her about it because I had always been able to find an answer a way to help them deal with what was going on.

I assured her we would get to the bottom of it and I would stop by after work.

Which I did and my entire outlook on what I believed changed starting that day.

Alty
Jul 30, 2010, 10:28 AM
Thanks Altenweg. It looks like you have it too, or at least a version of it so that means something. But as far as it being in us all, I seriously hope you are wrong about that. I've been hearing bumps and moans at my place too and Im hoping like crazy that something didnt follow me, or us here or whatever. At the same time thats where my own logic kicks in and says NOW Im just being paranoid. I try not to pay attention. I refuse to believe, at least in my home.

I don't think that all psychic ability or experiences are bad. Your girlfriend seems to have gotten the short end of the stick with all of this, my experiences, although sad (because I was forewarned of a death) were also comforting. Because I knew what was coming, I was always able to say my goodbyes, make my peace with the people I love. It's often a comfort.

I really hope that this all works out for you, that it can be controlled, or at least subsides. You're both in my thoughts. I'm not religious, but I'll send good vibes your way. :)

kingajsucks
Jul 30, 2010, 10:29 AM
Because of what you and your lady are facing I feel compelled to relate a few details of some things I was witness to and part of that happened several years ago.

Before I do I am going to have to take some time to sort out how I intend to go about this. It will not be a quick or easy task , I know you understand what I mean.

Absolutely. Take your time and don't go bringing back anything you are trying to forget, or that might cause something on my account.

kingajsucks
Jul 30, 2010, 10:31 AM
I don't think that all psychic ability or experiences are bad. Your gf seems to have gotten the short end of the stick with all of this, my experiences, although sad (because I was forewarned of a death) were also comforting. Because I knew what was coming, I was always able to say my goodbyes, make my peace with the people I love. It's often a comfort.

I really hope that this all works out for you, that it can be controlled, or at least subsides. You're both in my thoughts. I'm not religious, but I'll send good vibes your way. :)

Thank you.

martinizing2
Jul 30, 2010, 10:59 AM
For what it's worth.

What I am about to relate is totally unbelievable to any rational human being.
But it is the truth.


When I pulled up there was a man standing on her porch.
He smiled and waved , turned and walked in the house.

When I went in she was sitting on the couch with a look on her face that startled me.
I can't describe it any better than that.

I asked her, "Who was that?" A blank stare from her was all I got.

"Who just walked in here?" I asked again.
She started sobbing, looked at me and said, "Nobody is here but me."
I spent the next 20 minutes going through the house looking for the person I had seen walk into the house.

If it were not obvious that she was on the verge of hysterics , I would have thought I was being pranked or being made a fool.

I sat beside her and said ,"What the *&%$ is going on?"
All she said was , "Get me out of here."

I told her to grab what she would need for a day or two and we would go to my place and take it from there.

We walked into her room and I sat on the bed and she walked over to her closet and opened the door.

When she opened the closet door , her bedroom door slammed shut with so much force, I saw dust blow out around the casing.
When I looked from the door back towards her, I saw behind her what I thought was part of the dust that had been raised from the slam.
But it was darkening and growing.

I watched for a second or two and decided it was time to get the hell out of there.
When I tried to stand up I felt like I had been encased in plastic. I could not move a muscle. I could not even move my mouth to talk.

All I could do was watch as the "cloud" got larger and darker until it was "man sized and opaque".
It moved until it was between us and I could not see her through whatever it was.

She then started screaming my name over and over until I heard a smack. The sound of flesh hitting flesh.
At that instant it vanished and I saw her standing there with a trickle of blood from her nose and a swelling brilliant red hand print that covered half of her face.

We said nothing to each other until we got to my place.

My life changed that day.

Alty
Jul 30, 2010, 11:49 AM
Wow! Martin, all I can say is wow. I have no other words.

You must have been terrified. I'm getting chills just thinking about it.

Hexxie
Jul 30, 2010, 02:30 PM
Wow! Miss a day and look what happens(lol). Goodness, so much to comment on. Let's see.. . How to do this.



99.999% of "Professional Psychics " are money grubbing swindlers. Who know how to swindle and put on a show that's all.

I am so sorry your experiences with "Psychics" have been so negative. I personally know a few "Psychics", none of which are money grubbing swindlers. I agree, there are those out there that have given that whole profession a bad name. It angers and saddens me because it prevents people who are in need of help, like our OP, from reaching out to true "Psychics". I actually prefer the terms Psychic Abilities (as they do vary from person to person) and Intuition (as we all have this to some degree). Perhaps in the future you will have a positive encounter that will leave you thinking a kinder thought of "Psychics".



The power is in you, me, everyone.

Believing is the way to unlock it
. If you believe because of a church ceremony , or words of a "holy man" make you believe then you begin to understand.

God is in us all. When you seek God you will find Him in yourself. There is the power if you have the faith.

The power does indeed lie within us for God does reside there.:)




Like I said before, I can't help you with this problem, but I too believe that psychics exist. I believe that the power lies in all of us, some just naturally harness it, but most of us don't understand or won't accept that it exists.

I thank you for this statement.




I've had experiences as well, but they are few and far between, always involve the death of loved ones. So far I'm always 100% accurate, which I really hate. I've predicted the date of every loved one that's passed on. I've only been off once, and that was with my dad. I was off by an hour. I wish I had been wrong altogether. :(
My dear Alty, do you have any idea how miraculous this gift is? Or how rare your accuracy rate is??




Anyone believing in prayer ,sending positive energy, directing vibration for strength and healing, or what ever can be done to help another could give it some practice directed at these two. They will need the strength .

Thoughts have power. It was beautiful to see this post. You touch my heart. :D


I will post if something seems to make it better or if I have a specific question. Thank you for your input. Hopefully it also helps others who like me have a hard time talking about it...
My Dear OP,

Thank you for replying and giving a little info about your situation, I know it was hard for you.

It appears your GF does indeed have psychic abilities. She might possibly be an empath. You say she has had this all her life? When did it begin? Are there times when the ability is lessened or greater? What I mean is, is it more likely to happen when she is alone, or just as likely in a crowded situation? Or is it more likely to happen in a quiet setting, or just as likely in a loud one? Has she EVER felt in danger or frightened by these experiences. Not frightened because she didn't understand, but rather more.. . Threatened by them?

I ask because, if this is the case (psychic abilities), there are things that can be done to help tone it down, possibly even turn it off. All of which require learning more about the precise ability. Is this a path you wish to take? Actually, is this a path SHE wishes to take?

Let me know your responses and we will take it from there.

Keeping you both in my thoughts.

martinizing2
Jul 30, 2010, 02:47 PM
Wow! Martin, all I can say is wow. I have no other words.

You must have been terrified. I'm getting chills just thinking about it.

It took a while to calm down to terror.

kingajsucks
Jul 31, 2010, 03:06 PM
For what it's worth.

What I am about to relate is totally unbelievable to any rational human being.
But it is the truth.


When I pulled up there was a man standing on her porch.
He smiled and waved , turned and walked in the house.

When I went in she was sitting on the couch with a look on her face that startled me.
I can't describe it any better than that.

I asked her, "Who was that?" A blank stare from her was all I got.

"Who just walked in here?" I asked again.
She started sobbing, looked at me and said, "Nobody is here but me."
I spent the next 20 minutes going through the house looking for the person I had seen walk into the house.

If it were not obvious that she was on the verge of hysterics , I would have thought I was being pranked or being made a fool.

I sat beside her and said ,"What the *&%$ is going on?"
All she said was , "Get me out of here."

I told her to grab what she would need for a day or two and we would go to my place and take it from there.

We walked into her room and I sat on the bed and she walked over to her closet and opened the door.

When she opened the closet door , her bedroom door slammed shut with so much force, I saw dust blow out around the casing.
When I looked from the door back towards her, I saw behind her what I thought was part of the dust that had been raised from the slam.
But it was darkening and growing.

I watched for a second or two and decided it was time to get the hell out of there.
When I tried to stand up I felt like I had been encased in plastic. I could not move a muscle. I could not even move my mouth to talk.

All I could do was watch as the "cloud" got larger and darker until it was "man sized and opaque".
It moved until it was between us and I could not see her through whatever it was.

She then started screaming my name over and over until I heard a smack. The sound of flesh hitting flesh.
At that instant it vanished and I saw her standing there with a trickle of blood from her nose and a swelling brilliant red hand print that covered half of her face.

We said nothing to each other until we got to my place.

My life changed that day.

My word... that must have been unimaginably traumatizing. You must be very strong minded to go through something like that and retain your sanity.

Did you do any research or ask anybody for help similar to the way you are helping me now? Is she still living there?

kingajsucks
Jul 31, 2010, 03:20 PM
Wow! Miss a day and look what happens(lol). Goodness, so much to comment on. Let's see. . . how to do this.



I am so sorry your experiences with "Psychics" have been so negative. I personally know a few "Psychics", none of which are money grubbing swindlers. I agree, there are those out there that have given that whole profession a bad name. It angers and saddens me because it prevents people who are in need of help, like our OP, from reaching out to true "Psychics". I actually prefer the terms Psychic Abilities (as they do vary from person to person) and Intuition (as we all have this to some degree). Perhaps in the future you will have a positive encounter that will leave you thinking a kinder thought of "Psychics".



The power does indeed lie within us for God does reside there.:)



I thank you for this statement.


My dear Alty, do you have any idea how miraculous this gift is? Or how rare your accuracy rate is???



Thoughts have power. It was beautiful to see this post. You touch my heart. :D


My Dear OP,

Thank you for replying and giving a little info about your situation, I know it was hard for you.

It appears your GF does indeed have psychic abilities. She might possibly be an empath. You say she has had this all her life? When did it begin? Are there times when the ability is lessened or greater? What I mean is, is it more likely to happen when she is alone, or just as likely in a crowded situation? Or is it more likely to happen in a quiet setting, or just as likely in a loud one? Has she EVER felt in danger or frightened by these experiences. Not frightened because she didn't understand, but rather more. . . threatened by them?

I ask because, if this is the case (psychic abilities), there are things that can be done to help tone it down, possibly even turn it off. All of which require learning more about the precise ability. Is this a path you wish to take? Actually, is this a path SHE wishes to take?

Let me know your responses and we will take it from there.

Keeping you both in my thoughts.

Well, what I do know as of now is it seems to increase when she's alone. But from my own experience, its when she's asleep that "things" start to happen. I can't confirm a lot more than that without asking her (I want to be as acurate as possible).

Those are all very good questions and I will absolutely ask her all of them if you feel they are critical and there is a possibility of making things better. However, It will definitely have to be the next time she is over at my place. I don't like to really talk about this stuff with her over the phone if she's at home alone, and under no circumstances will I talk about this out loud if were both at her place. Im sure you understand.

Im looking forward to giving you those answers and hearing what you have to say. I will keep you posted.

martinizing2
Jul 31, 2010, 03:49 PM
My word... that must have been unimaginably traumatizing. You must be very strong minded to go through something like that and retain your sanity.

Did you do any research or ask anybody for help similar to the way you are helping me now? Is she still living there?
I have spent from then until now researching things like this trying to gain some understanding. Over 30 years. But the memory is as clear as if it were yesterday.

I am sorry I haven't been able to get back until now. I have business I have to attend to.
I will be back asap. I have to go right now.

positiveparent
Aug 1, 2010, 12:28 AM
Hi Kingajsucks
I feel I know what your g/f is experiencing, or a few suggestions then, she has opened herself up to the spirit world and not protected herself with a white lite. Anytime you're going to get into uncharted water you must first light a white candle, keep it lit all the time your in that realm, and say, I ask for protection from the white light, I do not wish to be on the dark side, I am aiming for the light, I will stay in the light, I ask for my spirit guides and guardian angels to watch over me, and keep me free of the darkness at all time, I ask also that the Gods of all times protect and care for me and my essence. You could then say the Lords Prayer.

Or your G/F could be mind controlled or a MPD if she goes into a trance like state never ever attempt to bring her out of it, just say I know the white light is protecting you. The again say the lords prayer. Any time you feel unsure of what to do say then lords prayer.

I haven't read through the whole thread yet, I shall do so during the next 12/16 hours and maybe Ill have picked up more. Always light a white candle, And say the lords prayer for the most basic of protection if ever thinking about spirits clair voyance clair audience. Or delving into any thing occult related.

Ill be back. I leave you in the love and light.

She's got small malefic on her right shoulder. Hes mischievous and awkward,

There are several of the little blighters around the place, sweep them out, with a broom. Tell them to sod off home. Get out and be gone light white candle.

Now you are surrounded on all side by positive energy healing vibes and love, you are also both within the love and light. Ill get shot of that malefic in a little while. She's not possessed just had a few little nasties playing games with her, and she had also started stepping into a parallel universe, she's back here in this universe now. You or anyone in this thread even needs to start smiling or thinking happy thoughts, any happy thought, tell yourselves this is going, watch it move away, because if you keep your mind full of love and smile, nothing gets in. Smile think happy thoughts, smile feel good feel happy peaceful contented, she's clair audience and has telepathic abilities. My Son loves it when I use mine, LOL I can move objects I once moved his birthday cake across the room he was gobsamcked. Ive had fun using mine at times, I can also read minds. See auras ,read body language like a book. Spot a fake person a mile away. Anyway smile feel and project love light love light smile smile be think happy, tell those little nasties to get out, they know they've got to go. Your g/f mind isn't severely damaged just bruised mostly, in future never ever delve into the subconscious which is where its at, without using the white light protection. I recommend a psychologist she may be a split personality.

If she wants to make good positive use of her abilities then she needs to practice going to a higher state of consciousness. Then she will use it well. For good for peace love and happiness, Keep smiling.

martinizing2
Aug 1, 2010, 12:54 AM
My word... that must have been unimaginably traumatizing. You must be very strong minded to go through something like that and retain your sanity.

Did you do any research or ask anybody for help similar to the way you are helping me now? Is she still living there?

Sorry I was pressed for time and couldn't finish , but here is some more backround.

When I was 6 we moved into an old house on the edge of the city.

The third or forth night we were there I was awakened by my hair being pulled.
When I sat up and looked around to see nobody in my room I began to get scared.
Then as I sat and watched , the blankets were slowly pulled off my bed onto the floor.

I went running into my parents room and told them what had happened.
They said I was dreaming, but let me stay in their room.

We went through the same thing for the next three nights in a row. My hair was pulled waking me up, then the blankets were pulled off and I was off to my parents room for the remainder of the night.

Finally my dad said he was going to sleep with me to show me everything was OK.
I was awakened by my dad as he was sitting up. He was wide eyed sitting stiff backed against the headboard of the bed, as the blankets were slowly pulled off the bed.
He scooped me up and took me to his room, then went and got my sisters and made beds for all of us on the floor in their room.

My parents were very conservative and would not talk about it and insisted it was a dream.

We all slept in their room for the next 4 nights , and moved out the day after that.


That experience was always running through my mind as I grew up. In Jr. High (secondary school) I began to read about supernatural experiences all I could.
The school had little to offer so I was a regular at the local library and read everything I could find on the subject.

As time went on I joined book clubs and frequented the book stores amassing quite a library of my own.


As an adult several times at parties and various gatherings the conversation would get around to ghost stories and the like and I got a reputation for knowing quite a bit about these kind of things.
As a result I started to be asked to check out things that were happening to some of my friends or people they knew which I did.

Time after time I was able to find totally unsupernatural answers. Refelcted light, electrical problems , plumbing, weird noises made by houses new and old.

I did this for years without finding anything strange.
That is when I met the lady with whom I had that experience I talked about.
She at that time had just moved in to that house and from the first night had had strange things happening.
She asked if I would check her place out and give my opinion.
I agreed and about 2 1/2 or three weeks later I went over.

When I first saw the place I knew why a person may be inclined to think it was haunted. It looked like the definition of what a haunted house would look like.

Built in the late 1800's two story brick that was decaying and falling into general disrepair.
Covered on three sides with ivy with shutters that needed paint or falling off and hanging and would bang into the house when the wind blew.

I will admit upon first entering I got chills. That had never happened to me before.
But I figured it to be because the inside was also in advanced disrepair and gave it an eerie appearance.

Her and her boys then gave me the tour relating things that had happened, footsteps, noises, lightfixtures beginning to swing, lights going on and off and many more.

Due to the age and condition of the house I was sure it was drafts blowing through , bad wiring , old plumbing etc.

Over the next two years we got to be very good friends. The strange things still happened but not anything ominous or extremely frightening.

At this time two things happened that changed everything.

I came across some books by Ed and Lorraine Warren. These people had dedicated their lives to investigating and helping people with hauntings , possession , poltergiests and such.And did it at their expense with no thought of monetary compensation.
He went into great detail on how they handled various situations and what to do if these things were encountered.

I had several books by various authors that referred to the Warrens and how they had been involved in hundreds of cases and had been central in bringing them to a close.
These included the case of the boy that was possessed and the basis of the story "The Exorcist" . Also the woman who was sexually assaulted by unseen forces and the basis of the movie "The Entity" which ended up involving a group from a university that obtained first hand experience and photos, and recordings of the phenomena occurring around her.


I will break here. This is getting much longer than I intended.

positiveparent
Aug 1, 2010, 01:09 AM
The Rampa Books are great for finding out more I have the full set in ebook format if anyone wants them, I was led to them so I freely share them gifts aren't meant to be sold that actually invalidates them.

martinizing2
Aug 1, 2010, 01:32 AM
To continue.

The method the Warrens used in almost every instance was to bring in a priest, minister, or preacher (usually it would be a priest) and have the house and occupants blessed. Which ended most of the cases. The religion or lack of never mattered. In fact the mother of the boy in the "Exorcist" story was atheist.

If phenomena still continued then Lorraine who was a psychic would instruct the ghost or whatever to leave and say that this was not their world to be in.
This is much abridged but essentially what took place.

Things the Warrens stressed were:
Do not challenge or threaten the entity.

Do not engage conversation or any first hand interaction.

If a saence was called for it was to be by someone who had extensive experience and knew the RISK which was great. And only as a last resort.

No ouija boards , spells, white witchcraft, or the like was to be tried. That was an invitation or challenge and would be of more harm and do no good.


It was at this time she decided to do everything advised against by the Warrens and many others.

She was using a ouija board, trying "spells" burning black candles and as far as I saw it, asking for trouble.

I told her I would not be involved in that activity and had been staying away for a month or two when I got that call on that Friday.


After that experience she had the house and herself and her boys blessed by people from the Morman church of which she was a member.

It lessened things a great deal but did not stop them.

She moved about a year later and the owners of the house had it demolished.
The vacant lot it sat on sits vacant still.

We still talk on the phone often (I called her and talked to her about telling about what happened) and she has had no problems since she moved.

martinizing2
Aug 1, 2010, 01:45 AM
The Rampa Books are great for finding out more I have the full set in ebook format if anyone wants them, I was led to them so I freely share them gifts arent meant to be sold that actually invalidates them.

I would love to read them.

And from what I have learned , when people try to make money from helping others it does invalidate any good they may do or exposes them as the phonies they are.

positiveparent
Aug 1, 2010, 01:52 AM
Can't give any rep for some reason, however very true ill pm you link for the rampa books Ive got the whole 19 of them.

martinizing2
Aug 1, 2010, 01:55 AM
cant give any rep for some reason, however very true ill pm you link for the rampa books Ive got the whole 19 of them.

Much appreciated

kingajsucks
Aug 1, 2010, 03:46 PM
Hi Kingajsucks
I feel I know what your g/f is experiencing, or a few suggestions then, she has opened herself up to the spirit world and not protected herself with a white lite. Anytime youre going to get into uncharted water you must first light a white candle, keep it lit all the time your in that realm, and say, I ask for protection from the white light, I do not wish to be on the dark side, I am aiming for the light, I will stay in the light, I ask for my spirit guides and guardian angels to watch over me, and keep me free of the darkness at all time, I ask also that the Gods of all times protect and care for me and my essence. You could then say the Lords Prayer.

Or your G/F could be mind controlled or a MPD if she goes into a trance like state never ever attempt to bring her out of it, just say I know the white light is protecting you. the again say the lords prayer. any time you feel unsure of what to do say then lords prayer.

I havent read through the whole thread yet, I shall do so during the next 12/16 hours and maybe Ill have picked up more. Always light a white candle,. and say the lords prayer for the most basic of protection if ever thinking about spirits clair voyance clair audience. Or delving into any thing occult related.

Ill be back. I leave you in the love and light.

Shes got small malefic on her right shoulder. Hes mischievious and awkward,

There are several of the little blighters around the place, sweep them out, with a broom. Tell them to sod off home. get out and be gone light white candle.

Now you are surrounded on all side by positive energy healing vibes and love, you are also both within the love and light. Ill get shot of that malefic in a little while. Shes not possessed just had a few little nasties playing games with her, and she had also started stepping into a paralell universe, shes back here in this universe now. You or anyone in this thread even needs to start smiling or thinking happy thoughts, any happy thought, tell yourselves this is going, watch it move away, because if you keep your mind full of love and smile, nothing gets in. Smile think happy thoughts, smile feel good feel happy peaceful contented, shes clair audience and has telepathic abilities. My Son loves it when I use mine, LOL I can move objects I once moved his birthday cake across the room he was gobsamcked. Ive had fun using mine at times, I can also read minds. see auras ,read body language like a book. spot a fake person a mile away. Anyway smile feel and project love light love light smile smile be think happy, tell those little nasties to get out, they know theyve got to go. Your g/f mind isnt severely damaged just bruised mostly, in future never ever delve into the subconscious which is where its at, without using the white light protection. I recommend a psychologist she may be a split personality.

If she wants to make good positive use of her abilities then she needs to practice going to a higher state of consciousness. then she will use it well. for good for peace love and happiness, Keep smiling.

It seems like you have a fair amount of experience with this sort of power, and so I thank you for your input.

But are you sure that doing any of this won't make things worse? I only ask because of an instance she told me about where her parents brought her back some holy water from a trip to Isreal. She said she sprinkled it all over the house, but that only got the spirits angry or riled up because the activity in the house got much worse quickly, and it lasted for a longer period than usual. The last thing I'd want to do is get them going and trying to prove something to her.

martinizing2
Aug 1, 2010, 04:07 PM
Well, what I do know as of now is it seems to increase when shes alone. But from my own experience, its when shes asleep that "things" start to happen. I can't confirm a lot more than that without asking her (I want to be as acurate as possible).

Those are all very good questions and I will absolutely ask her all of them if you feel they are critical and there is a possibility of making things better. However, It will definately have to be the next time she is over at my place. I dont like to really talk about this stuff with her over the phone if shes at home alone, and under no circumstances will I talk about this out loud if were both at her place. Im sure you understand.

Im looking forward to giving you those answers and hearing what you have to say. I will keep you posted.

I too feel it would help to have the information requested.

And when trying anything results can never be guaranteed . Another good reason to be armed with as much information as possible.

If you could possibly get the answers please do.

I will be back in about 2 hours but have to run right now

kingajsucks
Aug 1, 2010, 04:11 PM
To continue.

The method the Warrens used in almost every instance was to bring in a priest, minister, or preacher (usually it would be a priest) and have the house and occupants blessed. Which ended most of the cases. The religion or lack of never mattered. In fact the mother of the boy in the "Exorcist" story was atheist.

If phenomena still continued then Lorraine who was a psychic would instruct the ghost or whatever to leave and say that this was not their world to be in.
This is much abridged but essentially what took place.

Things the Warrens stressed were:
Do not challenge or threaten the entity.

Do not engage conversation or any first hand interaction.

If a saence was called for it was to be by someone who had extensive experience and knew the RISK which was great. And only as a last resort.

No ouija boards , spells, white witchcraft, or the like was to be tried. That was an invitation or challenge and would be of more harm and do no good.


It was at this time she decided to do everything advised against by the Warrens and many others.

She was using a ouija board, trying "spells" burning black candles and as far as I saw it, asking for trouble.

I told her I would not be involved in that activity and had been staying away for a month or two when I got that call on that Friday.


After that experience she had the house and herself and her boys blessed by people from the Morman church of which she was a member.

It lessened things a great deal but did not stop them.

She moved about a year later and the owners of the house had it demolished.
The vacant lot it sat on sits vacant still.

We still talk on the phone often (I called her and talked to her about telling about what happened) and she has had no problems since she moved.

That's one amazing story. Thank you for sharing that with me, well, all of us.

This is probably going to sound typical, but I used to watch a lot of the cable TV show "A Haunting" (back before I even met my girlfriend). I don't know how acurate they were about the stories, or if any of them were even factual because I never bothered to do any research on them. It was just a good TV show I liked to watch. But there was a bit of prestige with the documentation on that show (or it seemed to me at least), so I took it as factual.

Anyway, in many of the hauntings they went into, the family or people involved would resort to requesting a priest to come out and do his blessing. But one constant was that after the blessing the activity would cease for a period (usually a few months), and then it would come back. But when it came back it was heavier than when it stopped.

My question is if the Warrens ever toutched on this type of haunting and what it would mean if the activity did in fact come back? Also, being that it seems to be my girlfriend who the spirits are drawn to and not the house, would a priests blessing work in the same way?

I know Ive taken up a lot of your time and energy Martini, and I can't say enough how thankfull I am.

kingajsucks
Aug 1, 2010, 04:16 PM
I too feel it would help to have the information requested.

And when trying anything results can never be guaranteed . Another good reason to be armed with as much information as possible.

If you could possibly get the answers please do.

I will be back in about 2 hours but have to run right now

Absolutely. And Im ashamed to say that I was with her last night, but I didn't have the heart to bring up the subject. We were having such a good time and I didn't want to spoil the moment. But I don't want to keep you all hanging when its me asking for your help, so it will be sooner rather than later. Count on it...

positiveparent
Aug 2, 2010, 06:40 AM
Hi OP I thank you for the reply to my other post here, Ive now read through this thread and if I may I would like to ask you a few questions Please, These being:

You say its mostly your g/f, was or is she an only child?

Have you or any other independent adult actually seen evidence that your g/f is actually possessed? I mean you say its mostly when she is alseep, have you watched her when she sleeps recorded her, anything like this.

Have her parents told you of anything that supports this?

Has your g/f been seen by any professional body i.e. pyschiatrist or psychologist, has she or is she being counselled?

You say you were having a good time last night, so can you re read my first post to you, Please.

You say you do not wish to risk taking my advice in earlier post, I ask you do you want to succumb to any unwanted spirits or whatever, because by not wanting to anger them you're succumbing to them.

If your g/f is possessed then expect them to fight to regain a hold over her body.

Apart from a literal exorcism, you can help yourselves, spirits or whatever cannot occupy a positive thinkers body or anywhere near one, they need negative to feed off and maintain their hold over anything they choose to reside in, by being positive by smiling laughing thinking happy thoughts and such by not allowing them to have any hold they will disappear, obviously not permanently, but for a sufficient length of time for whoever to find professional help.

I also have a theory for what's happening ,
All young children have imaginary friends, I think perhaps your g/f also had them, with her mostly being effected at night, have you considered she has nightmares perhaps.

The sprinkling of holy water, is a myth or fallacy then it's the person who claims to be possessed reaction because of the myth in question, you could test this by getting a bottle of ordinary tap water and let your g/f think its holy water, and sprinkle it around her check her reaction to it.
Holy water is tap water that's so say been blessed. Priests are mere men with no ability to effect divination over anything earthly water included. If the water comes from Lourdes it may be different, but none is really holy water. I find it odd that it was your g/f herself who sprinkled it.

Also a person any person can be convinced they're possessed by their mind and only the mind, its not real yet they think it is. A negative oriented person can very easily think themselves into being possessed for a number of reasons attention being the main one.

The power of suggestion can produce many things.

Have you considered asking a priest or member of the clergy to visit your g/f home and perform a blessing of the house and contents including your g/f be there yourself, to witness anything unusual.

What's happening could very easily be a product of your g/f over active imagination, all in her mind in other words the mind is powerful and can produce anything we imagine to appearing as real.

Whether real or imagined your g/f needs some professional help, immediately. Without any she will or could then conjure up happenings indefinitely. Or for as long as she wants and they will or can appear very real but self inflicted.

This is more especially done with a person who has a split personality or MPD. It is also possible in a person with just their own personality, depending on how much of an attention seeker the person is or wants to be.

The possibility of this being a product of your g/f mind cannot be ruled out and should indeed be investigated before all other avenues of possibility are looked into. If she is an only child then the possibilities of it being of her own making are even more likely. Her subconscious does what its programmed to do. Childhood trauma can be very damaging in adulthood.

If not a psychiatrist a hypnotist would be beneficial.

JMO. Pp

Find the root cause and you'll solve the problem.

Psychics (http://www.psychics.co.uk) you'll find lots of information on this site that may help you.

OP I am not wishing to put doubt on your g/f integrity just that you need to be aware of the mind being capable of many things.

kingajsucks
Aug 2, 2010, 02:40 PM
Hi OP I thank you for the reply to my other post here, Ive now read through this thread and if I may I would like to ask you a few questions Please, These being:

You say its mostly your g/f, was or is she an only child?

Have you or any other independant adult actually seen evidence that your g/f is actually possessed? I mean you say its mostly when she is alseep, have you watched her when she sleeps recorded her, anything like this.?

Have her parents told you of anything that supports this?

Has your g/f been seen by any professional body i.e. pyschiatrist or psychologist, has she or is she being counselled?

You say you were having a good time last night, so can you re read my first post to you, Please.

You say you do not wish to risk taking my advice in earlier post, I ask you do you want to succumb to any unwanted spirits or whatever, because by not wanting to anger them youre succumbing to them.

If your g/f is possessed then expect them to fight to regain a hold over her body.

Apart from a literal exorcism, you can help yourselves, spirits or whatever cannot occupy a positive thinkers body or anywhere near one, they need negative to feed off and maintain their hold over anything they choose to reside in, by being positive by smiling laughing thinking happy thoughts and such by not allowing them to have any hold they will disappear, obviously not permanently, but for a sufficient length of time for whoever to find professional help.

I also have a theory for whats happening ,
All young children have imaginery friends, I think perhaps your g/f also had them, with her mostly being effected at night, have you considered she has nightmares perhaps.

The sprinkling of holy water, is a myth or fallacy then its the person who claims to be possessed reaction because of the myth in question, you could test this by getting a bottle of ordinary tap water and let your g/f think its holy water, and sprinkle it around her check her reaction to it.
Holy water is tap water thats so say been blessed. Priests are mere men with no ability to effect divination over anything earthly water included. If the water comes from Lourdes it may be different, but none is really holy water. I find it odd that it was your g/f herself who sprinkled it.

Also a person any person can be convinced theyre possessed by their mind and only the mind, its not real yet they think it is. A negative oriented person can very easily think themselves into being possessed for a number of reasons attention being the main one.

The power of suggestion can produce many things.

Have you considered asking a priest or member of the clergy to visit your g/f home and perform a blessing of the house and contents including your g/f be there yourself, to witness anything unusual.

Whats happening could very easily be a product of your g/f over active imagination, all in her mind in other words the mind is powerful and can produce anything we imagine to appearing as real.

Whether real or imagined your g/f needs some professional help, immediately. Without any she will or could then conjure up happenings indefinately. Or for as long as she wants and they will or can appear very real but self inflicted.

This is more especially done with a person who has a split personality or MPD. It is also possible in a person with just their own personality, depending on how much of an attention seeker the person is or wants to be.

The possiblity of this being a product of your g/f mind cannot be ruled out and should indeed be investigated before all other avenues of possibility are looked into. If she is an only child then the possibilities of it being of her own making are even more likely. Her subconscious does what its programmed to do. Childhood trauma can be very damaging in adulthood.

If not a psychiatrist a hypnotist would be beneficial.

JMO. pp

Find the root cause and youll solve the problem.

Psychics (http://www.psychics.co.uk) youll find lots of information on this site that may help you.

OP I am not wishing to put doubt on your g/f integrity just that you need to be aware of the mind being capable of many things.

Well, like I told Martini, I can only answer what I know for sure and the rest I will find time to ask her very soon when were in a good situation to talk about this. I will post up everything she's willing to answer about your questions as well as Martini's asap (most likely in one posting, but I'll notify you if I post it under his reply)...

So as of now I can tell you that she was not an only child.

As far as possessions go, she's not that. But from the research Ive done from what she's described to me, she has been "hijacked" before. She has had instances where other people in the house have physically seen her walking around and acting strange, then later she would have no recollection of it. That brings me to the increased activity when sleeping...

This is not something she herself told me, this is just a therory of my own based on what she has told me, and what I myself have experienced while I was over her house. Aside from strange dreams (if you want me to ask her to detail the different types of dreams let me know) and such, she's told me about having the sensation of something trying to enter her body while in bed, and also waking up to dark shadows over her bed.

Im used to being up late for work, so sometimes she will fall asleep and I'll be awake for a while longer, and it seems to me that when she is sleeping (or falling asleep) that all those unusual things start to happen.
Now I haven't physically seen what she see's, at least not yet. And that's fine with me, I don't want to. But all the noises and whatnot that probably shouldn't be happening start to happen.

I remember a couple of times when I first started sleeping over I would hear the sound of a door that wouldn't open so easily being forced open. I thought someone had broken into the house. I would wake her up and ask if she was expecting anyone, she would say "no" and seemed very unconcerned, like its nothing out of the ordinary. So like a dodo there I go sneeking through the house with my pocket knife only to find nothing and no one. It doesn't end there, that's just an example of what seems to start when she goes to sleep. Things falling over, the TV getting strange loud bursts of interference, constant loud furniture cracking, just to name a few more. I know most of these can be explained away. Coincidence... maybe.

As far as her having psychiactric issues, I can't blame you for bringing that up. Personally, I don't think that's the problem, but you're right in the sense that it should probably be ruled out.

Well, thank you for your help. Like I said I will post soon...

martinizing2
Aug 2, 2010, 04:49 PM
Well, like I told Martini, I can only answer what I know for sure and the rest I will find time to ask her very soon when were in a good situation to talk about this. I will post up everything shes willing to answer about your questions as well as Martini's asap (most likely in one posting, but I'll notify you if I post it under his reply)...

So as of now I can tell you that she was not an only child.

As far as possessions go, shes not that. But from the research Ive done from what shes described to me, she has been "hijacked" before. She has had instances where other people in the house have physically seen her walking around and acting strange, then later she would have no recollection of it. That brings me to the increased activity when sleeping...

This is not something she herself told me, this is just a therory of my own based on what she has told me, and what I myself have experienced while I was over her house. Aside from strange dreams (if you want me to ask her to detail the different types of dreams let me know) and such, shes told me about having the sensation of something trying to enter her body while in bed, and also waking up to dark shadows over her bed.

Im used to being up late for work, so sometimes she will fall asleep and I'll be awake for a while longer, and it seems to me that when she is sleeping (or falling asleep) that all those unusual things start to happen.
Now I havent physically seen what she see's, at least not yet. And thats fine with me, I dont want to. But all the noises and whatnot that probably shouldnt be happening start to happen.

I remember a couple of times when I first started sleeping over I would hear the sound of a door that wouldnt open so easily being forced open. I thought someone had broken into the house. I would wake her up and ask if she was expecting anyone, she would say "no" and seemed very unconcerned, like its nothing out of the ordinary. So like a dodo there I go sneeking through the house with my pocket knife only to find nothing and no one. It doesnt end there, thats just an example of what seems to start when she goes to sleep. Things falling over, the tv getting strange loud bursts of interference, constant loud furniture cracking, just to name a few more. I know most of these can be explained away. Coincidence... maybe.

As far as her having psychiactric issues, I can't blame you for bringing that up. Personally, I dont think thats the problem, but youre right in the sense that it should probably be ruled out.

Well, thank you for your help. Like I said I will post soon...

At this stage nothing is ruled out or in.

And the more you know the greater your strength will be.

It would be helpful if she really opened up , I can understand the reluctance .But you are not always awarded the luxury of dealing with some things in a manner you find comfortable.

But you can tell her this from me: She is lucky to have you. You obviously care a great deal for her to do what you are doing. I have seen some that turn and run...

We will keep at it as long as it takes.

kingajsucks
Aug 3, 2010, 01:34 AM
At this stage nothing is ruled out or in.

And the more you know the greater your strength will be.

It would be helpful if she really opened up , I can understand the reluctance .But you are not always awarded the luxury of dealing with some things in a manner you find comfortable.

But you can tell her this from me: She is lucky to have you. You obviously care a great deal for her to do what you are doing. I have seen some that turn and run...

We will keep at it as long as it takes.

Well we finally talked and I asked her anything I could remember from the questions people wanted to know. I will post it tomorrow (or later today, its 1:30 am), I just need to figure out how Im going to iturpret all the scribbles from my notes. I will most likely post it under Hexxie's response because of what she said, but obviously it's there for anyone with input or help.

And Martini, thanks for that last part, but believe me Im not in any way brave when it comes to this. I feel like a coward every time Im there constantly trying to distract my own mind. Do I care, yes. More than anything. This is just so new to me first hand.

martinizing2
Aug 3, 2010, 01:43 AM
It doesn't matter under who's post. As long as iot in this thread. Any post here notifies me for sure and most likely PP and Hex.

If you do something that does not scare you bravery is not involved.
It's doing it when you are scared that requires bravery.

I'll be looking for you in the AM

Hexxie
Aug 3, 2010, 12:25 PM
At this stage nothing is ruled out or in.

And the more you know the greater your strength will be.

It would be helpful if she really opened up , I can understand the reluctance .But you are not always awarded the luxury of dealing with some things in a manner you find comfortable.

But you can tell her this from me: She is lucky to have you. You obviously care a great deal for her to do what you are doing. I have seen some that turn and run...

We will keep at it as long as it takes.


Martin,

I wanted to give you a greenie, but I have to spread some reputation around first. (My first time getting that error, not sure how long that takes, but I hope it won't be long for I agree with most of what you have said.)

To the OP,

Take your time so that you can post something you feel comfortable with. I too have seen people turn & run the other way. Fear is a powerful motivator. But love, love will conquer it. Look at you, you are scared, but still you face it. Why? not only because you are brave, but because of love. To quote Martin: "She is lucky to have you."

Namaste, my friend. I await your post.

kingajsucks
Aug 3, 2010, 09:44 PM
Wow! Miss a day and look what happens(lol). Goodness, so much to comment on. Let's see. . . how to do this.



I am so sorry your experiences with "Psychics" have been so negative. I personally know a few "Psychics", none of which are money grubbing swindlers. I agree, there are those out there that have given that whole profession a bad name. It angers and saddens me because it prevents people who are in need of help, like our OP, from reaching out to true "Psychics". I actually prefer the terms Psychic Abilities (as they do vary from person to person) and Intuition (as we all have this to some degree). Perhaps in the future you will have a positive encounter that will leave you thinking a kinder thought of "Psychics".



The power does indeed lie within us for God does reside there.:)



I thank you for this statement.


My dear Alty, do you have any idea how miraculous this gift is? Or how rare your accuracy rate is???



Thoughts have power. It was beautiful to see this post. You touch my heart. :D


My Dear OP,

Thank you for replying and giving a little info about your situation, I know it was hard for you.

It appears your GF does indeed have psychic abilities. She might possibly be an empath. You say she has had this all her life? When did it begin? Are there times when the ability is lessened or greater? What I mean is, is it more likely to happen when she is alone, or just as likely in a crowded situation? Or is it more likely to happen in a quiet setting, or just as likely in a loud one? Has she EVER felt in danger or frightened by these experiences. Not frightened because she didn't understand, but rather more. . . threatened by them?

I ask because, if this is the case (psychic abilities), there are things that can be done to help tone it down, possibly even turn it off. All of which require learning more about the precise ability. Is this a path you wish to take? Actually, is this a path SHE wishes to take?

Let me know your responses and we will take it from there.

Keeping you both in my thoughts.

Like I said I asked as much as I could remember and she answered as much as she could until she got uncomfortable, but we'll get to that at the end. Sorry I couldn't make this any neater, but I wanted to post it as soon as I could not to further delay progress. Ok, here goes nothing...

First, let me just get the psychiactric question out of the way. About a year ago she told her doctor about sudden bouts of anger, agrivation, and anxiety and she was referred to a psychologist for a few sessions. The doctor concluded that the symptoms were due to stress and deemed the therapy unnecessary. That's the only time she's been evaluated by a doctor of that type.

Like I mentioned she has had experiences since she was a little girl. She said the earliest that she remembers is around age 3 or 4 when she says a tall, grey appirition with glowing eyes would visit her. She would call it a "monster". All through childhood, and after moving out as an adult, she has had different seemingly unrelated experiences in every house she has ever lived in. She also said and gave examples of how other people begin to see and hear things while being around her. I asked if her parents ever brought up the subject to her and she went on to explain how they were very traditional catholics and they were reluctant to talk too much about this type of thing. She did however tell me about an experience her mom had had.

Experiences, in her opinion, seem to lessen or increase in accordance to her mood. Mostly increasing when frustrated, angry or in a calm point, and decreasing or non existent when content, upbeat or distracted (busy). She would say experiences were most likely to happen when she was alone, but thinks this is due to not being distracted by anything. As far as the loudness or quietness of the environment, it leans towards quiet for increased activity.

She went on to describe what she see's and said that sometimes it could be a fully formed person, and sometimes it would manifest itself before her eyes. She said it starts by seeing "flashes of color" (this is how she knows what's comming), then a shape gradually forming until it resembles a human shape. It usually only lasts a few minutes then disappears.

She also mentioned that at times she, and sometimes others around her, can smell either a strong scent of sulfer or a strong scent of roses.

The appiritions, she says, make her uncomfortable, but she's been seeing them her whole life so they don't necessarily frighten her. But she admits that the hijackings and the sensations of being "pulled out" of her body do terrify her. She went on to tell me about how after the first time she found out about them her and a friend who was there at the time went out to a local shop where a man sold her a set of three candles with pictures on them (one white, one black, and one possibly red, she doesn't remember the last color) that were supposed to "clean out the house of negativity". While she says they didn't make things worse like the time she spread holy water around, they didn't make things any better either.

Finally, the last thing I asked her was if she's positive that she wants this to stop all together (she had told me so before), and this is where there was a bit of indecision. She tried to explain to me the best that she could. She went on about how she doesn't see any benefit in this ability and how it just makes her and others around her uncomfortable. But then went on to say that sometimes like when she's hijacked she wants it to go away, but other times she doesn't. I tried to get her to try and explain further, but the first thing I told her was that if at any point she began to feel uncomfortable we would stop. So true to my word, we did. After all I made her go through a lot of memories she probably hasn't thought about in a long time.

I can only speculate as to why she would be unsure of what she really wants to do about this. Maybe she wants to keep the good, but not the bad. Maybe she's had it so long that its just become a part of her. I don't know, and I guess you would have to have that kind of power to truly understand.

Well, that's all I got for now. I told her about some of what you all have posted here, including PP's posting about possible psychiactric issues, and she thought they were all valid points and questions. If you have any more questions that might be crutial do not hesitate to ask. We will try and make time to answer what she can. Thank you all, and we're looking forward to what you have to say.

KISS
Aug 3, 2010, 10:01 PM
I've been following this thread and I'm going out on a weak limb here. A medical possibility is migraine aura without headache.

See Silent Migraine (http://www.relieve-migraine-headache.com/silent-migraine.html)

So unless there is some tangible evidence, this could be a medical explanation. The entire episode is manufactured by the mind, a bit like dreaming.

kingajsucks
Aug 4, 2010, 03:37 AM
I've been following this thread and I'm going out on a weak limb here. A medical possibility is migraine aura without headache.

See Silent Migraine (http://www.relieve-migraine-headache.com/silent-migraine.html)

So unless there is some tangible evidence, this could be a medical explanation. The entire episode is manufactured by the mind, a bit like dreaming.

Mr or Ms Kiss, I looked into your link. Like anything else, I take everything into account. Thank you for your help and consideration. All I can say is I hope you never. I know you mean well, but you're just doing what I set out to discard at the beginning of this thread. You would'nt understand.

KISS
Aug 4, 2010, 11:37 AM
Believe me, I do understand. KISS is a.k.a. KeepItSimpleStupid. I had to change my user name because it was too long.

Without everything on the table, no matter how absurd or improbabable it will all help. I never said it was Silent Migraine. Some aspects fit.

Yes, I have abilities too, somewhat like Alty with deaths. I also have the ability to communicate via telepathy with the right people. I have two extra senses and I have learned not to ignore the sixth one. I know I was linked to other relatives. When they left this earth, my powers decreased. I knew exactly when they left earth.

I would like to get those powers back full strength, but presently there are too many distractions to be able to make that happen

Warning: Don't hastilly discount things no matter how absurd. Have an open mid to things that don't fit 100%.

positiveparent
Aug 4, 2010, 12:15 PM
I agree with KISS, don't rule anything out, the mind is a very powerful thing.

However on reading the OPs last post I think your g/f my be the subject of Alien abduction, and the image you described being that of a Grey.

2 images attached ask your g/f if they look familiar Please.

martinizing2
Aug 4, 2010, 02:09 PM
I am a bit surprised that she is unclear as to if she wants to get rid of this or not. But that was due to speculating her input.

From this point I would say the ball is in her court as to which way to proceed.

I don't think it is a pick to keep some and get rid of others .
And I feel she has to be more committed and certain of what she wants.

Some time to think may be what is called for, until she makes a decision seeing as she is central in all this.

We'll all be here waiting for whatever more there is to add or discuss that may help in any way.

Stay positive and encourage her to do the same.

Hexxie
Aug 5, 2010, 12:14 AM
Like I said. . .

Finally, the last thing I asked her was if shes positive that she wants this to stop all together (she had told me so before), and this is where there was a bit of indecision. She tried to explain to me the best that she could. She went on about how she doesnt see any benefit in this ability and how it just makes her and others around her uncomfortable. But then went on to say that sometimes like when shes hijacked she wants it to go away, but other times she doesnt. I tried to get her to try and explain further, but the first thing I told her was that if at any point she began to feel uncomfortable we would stop. So true to my word, we did. After all I made her go through alot of memories she probably hasnt thought about in a long time.

I can only speculate as to why she would be unsure of what she really wants to do about this. Maybe she wants to keep the good, but not the bad. Maybe shes had it so long that its just become a part of her. I dont know, and I guess you would have to have that kind of power to truly understand.

Well, thats all I got for now. I told her about some of what you all have posted here, including PP's posting about possible psychiactric issues, and she thought they were all valid points and questions. If you have any more questions that might be crutial do not hesitate to ask. We will try and make time to answer what she can. Thank you all, and we're looking forward to what you have to say.


Based on what you have told us, I believe your g/f is an intuit. Granted there are a few things going on, but all are side effects. Think of it this way, she is a beacon to any "energies" that may be in the vicinity. The problem lies in her not understanding what this is and her not knowing how to control it. Right now, it controls her. It comes down to the greatest energy wins.

I have to agree with Martin's last post: the ball is in her court.
Perhaps time to think it over is exactly what she needs right now.

After all, all of our good intentions can not help her if she is not willing to accept them.

And no, it is not a pick.

Stay positive and peace be with you.

kingajsucks
Aug 7, 2010, 09:47 AM
I appreciate all of your help. I don't want you all to feel like this was all for nothing. I'm not sure exactly what's going on right now, but maybe some more time is in order. Please don't forget, because I might need your same help in the near future. Sorry for the stalemate.

martinizing2
Aug 7, 2010, 02:58 PM
I appreciate all of your help. I dont want you all to feel like this was all for nothing. I'm not sure exactly whats going on right now, but maybe some more time is in order. Please dont forget, because I might need your same help in the near future. Sorry for the stalemate.

I don't think it was a stalemate. We all learned something from each other and about each other. That's a good thing.
We have eliminated a lot of preliminaries should we need to proceed , and I believe some trust established.

It is best in some situations not to proceed until you are fully committed to what you are about to do.

We will be here in the near future if needed, and hopefully in the not so near future also.

I wish you well.

superpup
Oct 5, 2010, 11:39 AM
Hi my name is unimportant I'm 13 years old and you say that your girlfriend is seeing things I see them to I hear them get touched by them and I also have visions that scare me everything scares me the spirits everything I just started seeing more of the spirits when I turned 13 and ha I am 13 I was seeing to many I got really scared but all you have to do is say leave me alone your incharge not them they've had there time its your turn if you want to be alone tell them don't let them no your afraid or they'll keep coming back. And its really nice to know that you believe her and trust her its really hard to find someone who believes trust me I know oh just one more thing usually when a spirit comes it wants help to cross over but she needs to do it not you she's having the problems but if she's to scared to help them stick with the first thing it will help GOOD LUCK!

superpup
Oct 5, 2010, 11:42 AM
Its not an alien it's a spirit she needs psychic help

martinizing2
Oct 6, 2010, 02:32 PM
Hi my name is unimportant im 13 years old and you say that ur girlfriend is seeing things i see them to i hear them get touched by them and i also have visions that scare me everything scares me the spirits everything i just started seeing more of the spirits when i turned 13 and ha i am 13 i was seeing to many i got really scared but all u have to do is say leave me alone your incharge not them theyve had there time its your turn if u want to be alone tell them dont let them no your afraid or theyll keep coming back. and its really nice to know that u beleive her and trust her its really hard to find someone who beleives trust me i know oh just one more thing usually when a spirit comes it wants help to cross over but she needs to do it not u shes having the problems but if shes to scared to help them stick with the first thing it will help GOOD LUCK!

If you would like to talk about this I would be happy to do it.

I understand how you feel and will always be willing to talk to you,

If you type your question into the box at the home page it will start a thread that will be yours for your questions alone.

lJ.
Oct 8, 2010, 07:58 PM
I've been reading this post, but I've just wanted to add some information, hope it's all right. To be honest, psychic ability can be defined by many different things. Some people won't agree with this, while other's will, but everyone has a psychic ability to some extent. It can just be knowing what time your bus comes every day without checking the time, or things like synchronicity [sp sorry], to many other things that can be totally different. Maybe your girlfriend could try visiting a spiritualist church to understand it a little better. Psychic ability is not a bad thing, and many people can use it to help others, take John of God as an example. But overall, it is usually not seen negatively, although I can see how it must be very odd to go through this. What does she do when she hears voices or sees visions? Does she recognize them? She could try meditating and concentrating on this. How long has this been happening?

I'll edit this post if I find anything has been answered, thanks.