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excon
Jul 8, 2010, 10:15 AM
Hello Goricle haters:
Hmmpf.. I see that "climategate (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/08/science/earth/08climate.html?hpw)" didn't turn out like you hoped it would. A British Scientific panel CLEARED the scientists who YOU accused of cheating... Bummer for you, huh?
It was bunk from the get go. Scientists don't do science to achieve a particular result. A scientist wouldn't BECOME a scientist to do that. It's like becoming a fire extinguisher salesman so that you can rig your extinguishers to explode. Yes, I'm sure there are a few demented fire extinguisher salesman. But, rigging 'em to explode isn't something that fire extinguisher salesmen do. I feel pretty comfortable saying that.
So, you are no longer excused from throwing your trash into the air.
excon
twinkiedooter
Jul 8, 2010, 10:24 AM
The only reason that the atmosphere is warming is due to the oil in the Gulf of Mexico. It is not a "spill" but a deliberate act. This summer will be one of the hottest on record. And we can also expect a really, really cold winter as well thanks to all the oil in the atmosphere. If anything it will change the entire world's climate in drastic ways.
I don't think the "scientists" are wrong or right. I think this oil belching from the ocean floor in the Gulf will totally rearrange the entire world's thinking when it comes to climate.
Today the pollution in my area is supposedly "Ozone" and unhealthy for sensitive people. Uh, gee, do you think that the oil in the atmosphere combined with the dispersants have anything to do with this plus the extreme high temps this early in summer? Of course it all goes back to the oil belching problem in the Gulf. The entire southern section of America will look like the devastated landscape from the 2008 movie called "The Road". If you haven't seen that movie I highly recommend you do. Then you will have your behind pucker up and poop in your pants as this is the landscape we're going to have to look at shortly.
excon
Jul 8, 2010, 10:28 AM
The entire southern section of America will look like the devastated landscape from the 2008 movie called "The Road". If you haven't seen that movie I highly recommend you do. Then you will have your behind pucker up and poop in your pants.Hello twink:
I just put it in my Netflix que. I love it when my butt puckers...
excon
speechlesstx
Jul 8, 2010, 10:39 AM
Yeah, kind of like Michael Mann being cleared by his bosses, CRU "solicited and paid for the new report." Just one more climate change party where they decided not to confuse matters by inviting the other side.
tomder55
Jul 8, 2010, 10:56 AM
“Those behaviors have been commented on in the light of a release – an improper release of emails in the autumn of 2009, not long before the Copenhagen conference. We went through this very carefully and we concluded that these behaviors did not damage our judgment of the integrity, the honesty, the rigor with which they had operated as scientists. And that's a comment about the processes that they went through to produce their work, to handle their data, to have their work peer-reviewed, and so on. A lot of what they do makes a big impact on the advice that goes to policy-makers, both domestically and internationally, and we concluded similarly that these behaviors that were the subject of criticism had not affected the impact on the policy advice. What we did however conclude was that they had not shown sufficient openness in the way in which they responded to requests for information about what they were doing, about the data they were processing, about the stations they were analyzing, and so on. And we've made a number of recommendations both for them and for the University of East Anglia in terms of how it manages its freedom of information process, and how it manages its risk process.”
'Climategate' review clears scientists of dishonesty - CNN.com (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/07/07/climategate.email.review/?hpt=T2&fbid=foAb_VYZpwQ)
So they were good scientist who withheld their information when it came time for peer review ? Their data couldn't be confirmed because of this ;and the emails conclusively proved that they manipulated data to get a pre-determined result.(East Anglia's Phil Jones' email where he explains that he used a “trick” to “hide the decline”.. the same way Penn State's Michael Mann did )
That's good science to you ?
This is very similar to the Mann investigation . They cleared him after HE testified that HE had done nothing wrong.
Sorry ;the emails stand on their own . I am not impressed that a bunch of like minded scientists investigated them. It's like the Spanish Inquisition clearing one of their own.
paraclete
Jul 8, 2010, 06:04 PM
These people have learned nothing and here I sit in the lowest temperatures in 80 Years discussing global warming. We can all be taken in by the smart science but all the research I do suggests we have entered a cooling period and, no, it doesn't have anything to do with an oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico which might or might not exasserbate it. I think we should start discussing Natural Variability and see where that leads us