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illinois1
Jun 25, 2010, 04:14 PM
I went to replace a toilet and it has an offset toilet flange and the slots are on three sides the other side had a plastic extension for the bolt with is broken. I believe it is all pvc. I went to a plumbing store and he said you can't just put a ring on top of it. I looked on line and that is pretty much what I read also. The plumber at the store was saying you have to cut it out and replace it with an extension and new offset flange.

I'm trying to get all the options before I decide which way I'll go. If I do need to cut it out it looks like it could be difficult for someone who has never done one of these before.I've read it needs to be done with a certain tool that cuts the pipe from the inside.
I've got a couple bath rooms so I could take my time with it but don't want to take on something that is not going to be the best option. Any insight from an experienced person with offset flanges and what difficulties can be expected when one is a novice? A plumber seems like the best option to me but am willing to check things out before I go that way. I looked at other web sites and someone had a similar situation and one of the responses was in pictures on which flange not to put in and that was the one I have.

speedball1
Jun 25, 2010, 04:54 PM
A picture would be helpful. Back to you, Tom

illinois1
Jun 26, 2010, 08:29 AM
I got the picture.I removed the four screws holding the flange to the floor two were not holding. Up close the flange resting on the floor is busted up under the slots where the bolts could be placed for holding the toilet. The orange color is the seal for the flange to the 3" pipe leading up? It appears a pipe coming up on a angle and when it reaches the flange it is thicker for some kind of mount or seal. It is not a complete closure to the pipe coming up because I can get a screw driver in between that area. If I adjust the closet flange you see the pipe leading below the orange area and downward moving with the closet flange. My thought is the color came from the cement and other material that was used to create the joint for the pipe and flange. I took measurement of flange on top of the pipe. 7" dia. For the top flange resting on the floor. I put a tape measure where the orange color is and assumed this was the height of the flange being sealed to the pipe it is approximately 1 3/4". Hope the construction was done correctly? I don't know how a seam should be for conditions.

speedball1
Jun 26, 2010, 09:33 AM
It's got to be me but I'm having a problem understanding your problem, Are you saying the flange is cockedb up 1 3/4" off the floor and the other side was built up to level the bowl?
Can you get to the pipes under the floor. To level the flange? Let me know, Tom

massplumber2008
Jun 26, 2010, 10:34 AM
Hi all:

If I understand this Illinois...

The bolt holder broke off the left side of the flange... correct (see image)? Is the toilet flange cracked anywhere else?

If not, you should at least try to see if a PVC repair flange will work. I don't like the way the gasket would line up over the offset flange hole, but could be worth trying... maybe?

If that won't work then you'll need to get access to the pipe from underneath because you have a street elbow cemented into that old flange. That means that an inside cutter won't help you to remove the old flange as you would cut the fitting itself if you tried to remove it using that tool. You'd need an outside cutter, which somebody does make, but I don't know the brand name right now. Hopefully, you can gain access to the pipe underneath and cut the street elbow and flange out. Then you'll simply prime/cement a coupling and a new street elbow and flange, etc... to finish.

There is another way or two to resolve this issue, but I won't go into them until you catch us up a bit..OK?

If you have access to underneath you could add some plywood to the underside of the floor so you can screw the new flange in properly... ;)

Back to you...

Mark

illinois1
Jun 28, 2010, 03:40 PM
Thanks, for taking the time to reply. I ran in to a hitch with the water in the downstairs ceiling and were not using the bath room upstairs. I have no idea what the solution is at this time so I'm going to defer to a plumber. I learned a few things I went to follow up on your info but it has just turned into to big a job for a beginner as myself. Regards, Thanks again.