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Curlyben
Jun 16, 2010, 01:42 AM
So, assuming there IS going to be an utterly cataclysmic, literally earth shattering event, would you really want to know about it ?

Yes I'm being quite serious here and asking for some thoughtful responses.

tickle
Jun 16, 2010, 02:34 AM
If it is completely cataclysmic, then what is the sense in being prewarned? I would rather just not know. I would just wish no one would suffer.

Tick

tickle
Jun 16, 2010, 03:09 AM
PS

I read an article once that the present day Mayans think that it is quite amusing that the ancient calender was misinterpreted. The calender was cracked at the year 20l2, leading others to surmise that the Mayans believed the world would end at that year, when in fact, present day Mayans know for sure that the calender was focused on planting, the seasons, the sun and the moon only as crops were the main concern of the ancients in order to get by year to year. They knew as farmers and not hunter/gatherers/nomads that unless the corn and root vegetables went in at the proper time, and had good weather for another season, no one would survive.

Tick

Aurora_Bell
Jun 16, 2010, 06:44 AM
I think it's already started. "They" say it isn't going to happen in one day, but over a period, and considering the events that have been happening, if it going to happen, it's already begun.

But if it is happening, than what can we really do? Assuming what "they" say is correct, and mountains will crumble, waters willr ise and wash out land, and flat lands will just open up and cave in on themselves. How can anyone prepare for that?

JoeCanada76
Jun 16, 2010, 06:57 AM
Curlyben,

Lots of people believe that the beginning of all these signs have started. The thing is there have been so many disasters and wars , etc... Since the start of man. People have been trying to predict the end of the world since the beginning of man. Every time the prediction has been wrong. I honestly feel that there is no reason to believe that 2012 represents something very cataclysmic happening. I know that people for some reason are fearful and are always on edge and thinking the worst. People are attracted to disasters and predictions of doom. I do not know why.

My belief is at anytime that my personal belief in God. If something so severe and changing will happen that I will be ready at any time to go if that is what is meant to happen.

Okay so the question is would I really want to know about it. No, not really. It would not change anything. IF it is something that was unpreventable and was going to happen no matter what. What point is it knowing? I rather be surprised. If anything like that happened it would be quick and we would not be aware of it anyway.

Maybe for that time coming, if it were to come. Ignorance is bliss. I rather be happy and live my life in peace then fearful about upcoming disaster that I have no control over anyway.

NeedKarma
Jun 16, 2010, 07:13 AM
When Alexander the Great rolled over the Persian Empire I bet they thought the end of the world was coming.
When the Japanese were the recipients of two atomic bombs I bet they thought the end of the world was coming.
When the tsunami disaster happened in 2004 I'm surprised people didn't predict the end of the world then as well.
World War 2 was pretty nasty, maybe that was the end of the world.

excon
Jun 16, 2010, 07:25 AM
Hello ben:

Hmmmm... So, I wonder how those Mayans knew we'd poke a hole in the floor of the ocean into a large cavernous pit of oil, that is unstoppably gushing out and poisoning our oceans. It spells the end of us - probably around 2012...

Speaking of which, I think Obama and BP both KNOW we're doomed, and THEY ain't saying squat.

Do I wish they would?? I don't know. It would get pretty scary around here if they did.

excon

albear
Jun 16, 2010, 07:57 AM
I've said it once and ill say it again

London 2012 olympics will be the death of us all

IF the end of the world was nigh and there was nothing I could do to survive it, then no I would rather not know about it,

Ever seen the film 'when the wind blows'

Rather than trying to build a homemade nuclear shelter, id rather sit outside in a deck chair with sun glasses and a cold one :)

Same principal

excon
Jun 16, 2010, 08:07 AM
rather than trying to build a homemade nuclear shelter, id rather sit outside in a deck chair with sun glasses and a cold one :)Hello bear:

Me too... But, I'd be smoking some good ganja.. Want to hit?

excon

albear
Jun 16, 2010, 08:15 AM
Hello bear:

Me too... But, I'd be smoking some good ganja.. Wanna hit?

excon

Sure why not, it is the end of the world after all, got to live a little

shazamataz
Jun 16, 2010, 08:29 AM
Aliens are coming on Dec 22 2012.

The X-Files told me.

Beam me up scotty.

shazamataz
Jun 16, 2010, 08:30 AM
And yes, I would want to know.

I would sell our house and travel for the next 2 years. I want to see everything there is to see before it's all gone.

Just Dahlia
Jun 16, 2010, 03:33 PM
Well if I had hoards of money, I'd do what Shaz said. If there was nothing I could do, I'd go with Excon.

But since it's just me, I would only want enough time to say good by to the people I love, and buy a boat:D

Aurora_Bell
Jun 16, 2010, 03:43 PM
I don't think I would really want to know, I think that if I did I would just have constant anxiety attacks. But on the other hand, all the scrimping and saving I have done, it sure would be nice to travel.

jmjoseph
Jun 16, 2010, 03:55 PM
This is an excellent question , Ben. I think that if there was no chance of survival, and that the end would be totally planetary, I would want to know so I could do a few more things with my wife and two young sons. And I would want to be with them all when the moment happened. I wouldn't want my children to be afraid. I would also take that time to do a little better job at my "spiritual preparation".

I agree that we are headed in that direction somewhat. When men are taking supplements to produce some form of "breastmilk" as to better bond with their newborn children(yea, it's happening), and the whole "metrosexual male" thing, we are on our way.

The planet is resilient, I don't think we can break IT, but the same logic that we, as civil humans, had during WWII,"PRIDE and HONOR", compared to today, "Is that fat free bacon?"... We're screwed if it's by alien invasion.

I think I'll take a few hits of that herb Ex.

Aurora_Bell
Jun 16, 2010, 04:04 PM
JM I just threw up a little in my mouth. There is NO WAY IN HELL that I would let my hubby or father of my child breast feed. Ewww. I need to go shower now.

cdad
Jun 16, 2010, 04:37 PM
I believe that if it were a end all scenario that I would like to know in advance. For obvious reasons of contacting loved ones etc. Or like I saw in a movie. When the nuke was going to hit everybody was running except one guy who just sat in his lawn chair and lit up a cigar. If I have to go let it be my way.

Fr_Chuck
Jun 16, 2010, 04:43 PM
We are now signing up for members of the New World Order, who are in place soon to take over all major areas of control once society is in ruin. We are all well qualified having watched every end of the world movie, and have based our new government on the Mad Max and the Postman movies.

Merely sell all you have ( you don't need that earthly old government money anyway) and right after the world is destroyed we will issue the new method of payment.

cdad
Jun 16, 2010, 04:51 PM
We are now signing up for members of the New World Order, who are in place soon to take over all major areas of control once society is in ruin. We are all well qualified having watched every end of the world movie, and have based our new government on the Mad Max and the Postman movies.

Merely sell all you have ( you don't need that earthly old government money anyway) and right after the world is destroyed we will issue the new method of payment.

With the circle of life the way it is its more then likely going to be more like planet of the apes then mad max ;)

albear
Jun 17, 2010, 05:34 AM
We are now signing up for members of the New World Order, who are in place soon to take over all major areas of control once society is in ruin. We are all well qualified having watched every end of the world movie, and have based our new government on the Mad Max and the Postman movies.

Merely sell all you have ( you don't need that earthly old government money anyway) and right after the world is destroyed we will issue the new method of payment.

I'm already saving up bottle caps and kfc hand wipe cloths (as the new post-apocalyptic currency) so as to start a wealthy man after the bombs drop :D


(an internet cookie to whoever gets those two references :) )

shazamataz
Jun 17, 2010, 12:46 PM
You are screwed if you live in Megaton bear... I plan on blowing it up ;)

(do I get half a cookie?)

albear
Jun 17, 2010, 12:50 PM
You are screwed if you live in Megaton bear... I plan on blowing it up ;)

(do I get half a cookie?)

Yes you do :D

Catsmine
Jun 20, 2010, 02:33 AM
Back to Ben's question:

Do you remember the movie "The Day After"? Not the eco-disaster but the nuke disaster movie? It had a scene of a beautiful palfrey quarterhorse galloping in a field when the flash came. I want to be the horse.

jmjoseph
Jun 20, 2010, 04:35 AM
Back to Ben's question:

Do you remember the movie "The Day After"? Not the eco-disaster but the nuke disaster movie? It had a scene of a beautiful palfrey quarterhorse galloping in a field when the flash came. I want to be the horse.

And I'll be the jackass in the corner of the field. As usual.

tickle
Jun 20, 2010, 06:45 AM
Back to Ben's question:

Do you remember the movie "The Day After"? Not the eco-disaster but the nuke disaster movie? It had a scene of a beautiful palfrey quarterhorse galloping in a field when the flash came. I want to be the horse.

You can slap me up the side of the head, cats, but knowing horses I really have to correct your terminology of 'palfrey' which wasn't a quarterhorse. A 'palfrey' was a particular well trained arabian favoured for its 'gait' (there are several gaits one good example being the way a Tennessee walker horse 'walks', I guess you might call it a controlled canter) by the gentry in the middle ages because this horse 'ambled'; was used mostly in ceremonies, and for quiet outings. So... palfreys weren't quarter and they didn't gallop.

Sorry

Tick

jmjoseph
Jun 20, 2010, 06:59 AM
you can slap me up the side of the head, cats, but knowing horses I really have to correct your terminology of 'palfrey' which wasnt a quarterhorse. A 'palfrey' was a particular well trained arabian favoured for its 'gait' (there are several gaits one good example being the way a tennessee walker horse 'walks', I guess you might call it a controlled canter) by the gentry in the middle ages because this horse 'ambled'; was used mostly in ceremonies, and for quiet outings. So.....palfreys werent quarter and they didnt gallop.

sorry

tick

I see you didn't correct MY remark.

Poor little Jackme.

tickle
Jun 20, 2010, 07:06 AM
I see you didn't correct MY remark.

Poor little Jackme. well you see, a jackass is a jackass is a jackass, they don't have too much of a history, do they; so yours didn't need correcting. I just hope cats won't be too angry at me, but I just couldn't help myself.;)

jmjoseph
Jun 20, 2010, 07:09 AM
well you see, a jackass is a jackass is a jackass, they dont have too much of a history, do they; so yours didnt need correcting. I just hope cats wont be too angry at me, but I just couldnt help myself.;)

And I thought I was the only one in that field... oh well, back to eatin' briars.

Catsmine
Jun 20, 2010, 08:26 AM
you can slap me up the side of the head, cats, but knowing horses I really have to correct your terminology of 'palfrey' which wasnt a quarterhorse. A 'palfrey' was a particular well trained arabian favoured for its 'gait' (there are several gaits one good example being the way a tennessee walker horse 'walks', I guess you might call it a controlled canter) by the gentry in the middle ages because this horse 'ambled'; was used mostly in ceremonies, and for quiet outings. So.....palfreys werent quarter and they didnt gallop.

sorry

tick

I stand corrected. I thought palfrey was the term for a grey so light as to be white. I didn't realize it was breed specific. My bad.

tickle
Jun 20, 2010, 08:58 AM
Hi cats, thanks.. Many dapple greys are born black and turn grey with age. Usually dark skin underneath, usually see that lovely delicate looking breed Arabian as dapple grays, having more dapple on their hindquarters. There are only so many people one can correct without turning it into a bad feeling. I sort of knew your personality here would not allow that to happen.

Happy tick

jmjoseph
Jun 20, 2010, 11:19 AM
hi cats, thanks.. Many dapple greys are born black and turn grey with age. Usually dark skin underneath, usually see that lovely delicate looking breed Arabian as dapple grays, having more dapple on their hindquarters. There are only so many people one can correct without turning it into a bad feeling. I sort of knew your personality here would not allow that to happen.

happy tick

Oh, the tick and the bug killer are friends now?

Catsmine
Jun 20, 2010, 03:22 PM
Oh, the tick and the bug killer are friends now?

I got no issues. This tick has not become a pest.

tickle
Jun 20, 2010, 03:48 PM
I got no issues. This tick has not become a pest. okay, I didn't realize... has my personality not been up to par in some way. This lady has no issues with anyone here. I just calls-them-as-I-sees-um. Am I missing something here...

Confused tick by JMs response

Aurora_Bell
Jun 20, 2010, 04:23 PM
Well I for one Tick, think you are magnificent! I enjoy you greatly.

I think JMJ was making a play on words so to speak. Like a bug killer and a tick being friends. Heheh :)

KBC
Jun 20, 2010, 05:52 PM
OK,I have been watching Morgan Freeman and his series on The Science Channel,Through the wormhole.

The last episode was about the scientific concepts behind god,end of the world thinking,etc.The professor studying religions(including Mayan,Celtic,Egyptian,etc.)Was of the mind that we need to feel that there is something beyond the here and now,if there isn't then we most likely would be in fear,all the time,over the end of days.(our days namely)

With this idea in mind,do we really want to know our ending?That very concept from the study states that without a god concept in our lives we would return to chaos, imagine what the people of the world would really be like if they all knew the end was truly going to be on Dec,21,2012?

Aurora_Bell
Jun 20, 2010, 06:02 PM
imagine what the people of the world would really be like if they all knew the end was truly going to be on Dec,21,2012?

Mass Hysteria.

KBC
Jun 20, 2010, 06:08 PM
I'm first in line:)

Actually there have been times when I would really like the end to come.. but today I just eat worms.

cdad
Jun 20, 2010, 06:17 PM
OK,I have been watching Morgan Freeman and his series on The Science Channel,Through the wormhole.

The last episode was about the scientific concepts behind god,end of the world thinking,etc.The professor studying religions(including Mayan,Celtic,Egyptian,etc.)Was of the mind that we need to feel that there is something beyond the here and now,if there isn't then we most likely would be in fear,all the time,over the end of days.(our days namely)

With this idea in mind,do we really want to know our ending?That very concept from the study states that without a god concept in our lives we would return to chaos,,imagine what the people of the world would really be like if they all knew the end was truly going to be on Dec,21,2012?

Its been proven and independently tested that a part of the brain has the god function built into it. By isolation and magnetizm they have found you get this feeling of being watched etc. They call it the god section.

Also not sure what type of trend you believe in but ammo sales have been steady and growing for the longest time now.

Kitkat22
Jun 20, 2010, 06:18 PM
I would want to know. Gives me a chance to think more about heaven and where I'm going. Yes I would want to know... it would be something to look forward too.

cdad
Jun 20, 2010, 06:22 PM
I would want to know. Gives me a chance to think more about heaven and where I'm going. Yes I would want to know...it would be something to look forward too.

I know where Im going. Been working on the handbasket for years. They told me it was good therapy ;)

KBC
Jun 20, 2010, 06:23 PM
Also not sure what type of trend you believe in but ammo sales have been steady and growing for the longest time now.

I can buy all the ammo I want.it's the guns I can't have.. oh well, go out in the blaze with the rest of the people.

Kitkat22
Jun 20, 2010, 06:28 PM
I can buy all the ammo I want.it's the guns I can't have..oh well,,go out in the blaze with the rest of the people.





Bet I can outshoot any of you men. I've got a .38 Lady Smith.
I can shoot a grain of sand off a fly at 100 feet:cool:

cdad
Jun 20, 2010, 06:32 PM
Bet I can outshoot any of you men. I've got a .38 Lady Smith.
I can shoot a grain of sand off a fly at ioo feet:cool:

Id like to see that. Then again I have punched the same hole in the target at 100 yards using iron sites on a 9mm pistol ;)

KBC
Jun 20, 2010, 06:34 PM
I was quite a shooter when I could possess guns, but no more,, somehow I believe it's like riding a bike,you can pick it back up as soon as the need arises.

Kitkat22
Jun 20, 2010, 06:35 PM
Id like to see that. Then again I have punched the same hole in the target at 100 yards using iron sites on a 9mm pistol ;)




Whoa! Myy husband used to have a 44 Ruger Red Hawk... We used to practice a lot.

cdad
Jun 20, 2010, 06:40 PM
At the risk of hyjacking a thread I put a place for us all to talk about all things guns.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-member-discussions/ready-aim-fire-aka-gun-thread-481412.html#post2402071

Aurora_Bell
Jun 20, 2010, 06:40 PM
Hahah I have a sawed off pellet gun. Yea! You better not mess with this! Lol. It's actually only the butt of the gun that's sawed off. But I do like the looks of those Smith and Wesson's.

Kitkat22
Jun 20, 2010, 06:43 PM
At the risk of hyjacking a thread I put a place for us all to talk about all things guns.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-member-discussions/ready-aim-fire-aka-gun-thread-481412.html#post2402071

Thanks CFD3...

Kitkat22
Jun 20, 2010, 08:36 PM
I think a lot of people were scared at the turn of the Century... 2000.
I 'm not scared about the world ending.

Aurora_Bell
Jun 20, 2010, 08:46 PM
I am. I think about it often. I'm not one of those crazies, but I do think about it often. I think it's sad.

Alty
Jun 20, 2010, 09:14 PM
Grrr.

I just spent a good 10 minutes writing a post for this thread and then AMHD crashed for me. :(

I may just have a hissy fit!

Here I go again. Second try.

I haven't read the other posts, so I'll just respond to the original question.

Ben, I've been forewarned about two cataclysmic, earth shattering events. At least they were earth shattering to me. I knew both my parents were going to die before they died. Both times I sat by, unable to do anything, and just watched them fade away, took care of them, held them, watched them die. I don't recommend it.

At the end, I hate to say it, feel guilt about it, I actually thought that the waiting was the worst part, I actually wished that they'd hurry and die already, because each day was torture, each day we sat there waiting for the inevitable to happen. We didn't live during that time, we just waited.

Most people think that if they knew the world was ending, they'd go out and do the things they've always wanted to do. They'd tell their loved ones that they love them, spend time with their family, go to Hawaii, whatever is on their list of important things to do.

My questions is this. Why are you waiting? What are you waiting for? Does the world have to end in order for you to live?

Each day I have with my kids, my husband, my loved ones, is a gift. Each day is special. I may not be able to afford to pack up our bags and go to Hawaii, but everything that's important to me is being done every day. I would have no regrets if the world ended tomorrow.

So no, I wouldn't want to know about it. I wouldn't want to spend each day worrying about something I can't change. I'll just keep doing what I'm doing, living each moment, loving each moment, and never putting off what is important to me.

Face it, a plane could land on you tomorrow. Every day is a gift. I suggest no one waits to open it.

Just my opinion. :)

Kitkat22
Jun 20, 2010, 09:22 PM
Grrr.

I just spent a good 10 minutes writing a post for this thread and then AMHD crashed for me. :(

I may just have a hissy fit!

Here I go again. Second try.

I haven't read the other posts, so I'll just respond to the original question.

Ben, I've been forewarned about two cataclysmic, earth shattering events. At least they were earth shattering to me. I knew both my parents were going to die before they died. Both times I sat by, unable to do anything, and just watched them fade away, took care of them, held them, watched them die. I don't recommend it.

At the end, I hate to say it, feel guilt about it, I actually thought that the waiting was the worst part, I actually wished that they'd hurry up and die already, because each day was torture, each day we sat there waiting for the inevitable to happen. We didn't live during that time, we just waited.

Most people think that if they knew the world was ending, they'd go out and do the things they've always wanted to do. They'd tell their loved ones that they love them, spend time with their family, go to Hawaii, whatever is on their list of important things to do.

My questions is this. Why are you waiting? What are you waiting for? Does the world have to end in order for you to live?

Each day I have with my kids, my husband, my loved ones, is a gift. Each day is special. I may not be able to afford to pack up our bags and go to Hawaii, but everything that's important to me is being done every day. I would have no regrets if the world ended tomorrow.

So no, I wouldn't want to know about it. I wouldn't want to spend each day worrying about something I can't change. I'll just keep doing what I'm doing, living each moment, loving each moment, and never putting off what is important to me.

Face it, a plane could land on you tomorrow. Every day is a gift. I suggest no one waits to open it.

Just my opinion. :)



Mine crashed too... Aliens... Ruuuuuuun:eek:

Catsmine
Jun 21, 2010, 02:02 AM
Face it, a plane could land on you tomorrow. Every day is a gift. I suggest no one waits to open it.

The only 100% fatal human condition -- nativity

tickle
Jun 21, 2010, 06:44 AM
Well I for one Tick, think you are magnificent! I enjoy you greatly.

I think JMJ was making a play on words so to speak. Like a bug killer and a tick being friends. heheh :)

Thank you AB I appreciate your comment.

jmjoseph
Jun 21, 2010, 10:27 AM
Thank you AB I appreciate your comment.

It was just a silly joke, tick. You know I respect your wisdom.

albear
Jun 21, 2010, 10:42 AM
The only 100% fatal human condition -- nativity

Nativity plays?

I agree they are bad, but 100% fatal?

Kitkat22
Jun 21, 2010, 10:49 AM
nativity plays?

i agree they are bad, but 100% fatal?






Naivety? we all knew what he meant... 2012... or tomorrow... doesn't bother me. :)

Alty
Jun 21, 2010, 10:53 AM
nativity plays?

i agree they are bad, but 100% fatal?

LOL! Always fear the nativity plays.

Fatality rate could be high. Mary could fall off the donkey. The roof of the stable could collapse. The cow could eat out of the feed trough/manger and accidentally chew on the baby Jesus.

So many things could go wrong. :eek:

albear
Jun 21, 2010, 11:21 AM
Naivety? ,we all knew what he meant....2012...or tomorrow....doesn't bother me. :)

Yeah I know, but I saw an opportunity and went for it :)

Kitkat22
Jun 21, 2010, 11:58 AM
yeah i know, but i saw an opportunity and went for it :)




I know! :D

Catsmine
Jun 21, 2010, 02:35 PM
yeah i know, but i saw an opportunity and went for it :)

I thought it was great. I wondered who'd pick that one up and run.

positiveparent
Jul 7, 2010, 12:36 PM
I think we are already in the end times, look around you the signs are all there.

God has been ruled out and consumerism and materialism rules supreme, what's happening to us, we no longer care about others or many don't, if we see someone being attacked well walk on by not wanting to get involved, we can say its not so, but it is its all there right in front of our eyes.

Some preach the bible and yet those self same people send their sons to war, and many are killed all in the name of religion, those self same sons will kill another woman's son and come home a hero for what killing another human being, we see signs all over saying support our troops isn't that just another way of saying support legalised murder, we are all guilty of it.

When you sit down to eat do you give a thought to the person in some poorer country who hasn't eaten for weeks. Every day every where on this planet the world ends for someone, however soon if not in 2012 the world will end for all of us, and why? Because we don't care anymore, we condone the breaking of the 10 commandments daily. Look at our children they're dating having sex and who knows what else younger and younger. We have no real control over them now either with children's rights and no spanking rules, teachers cannot chastise them either, and they're taking over. The art of reading and writing is as good as dead most children today use text speak.

We are no longer a society its now a race to get the latest gadget, or follow the latest trend, if you're a person with morals and high standards now you're seen as an oddity. If you speak your mind you're treated with contempt instead of being treated as just a person, with a right to an opinion. In many areas we cannot even voice an opinion because of political correctness, which also took away our right to free speech. Take terrorism that was conveniently invented to take away even more of our rights, and some may not accept this or believe it but 911 and 7/7 were not terrorist acts its been proven there were bombs going off in the twin towers, and both buildings fell in same manner as would planned demolitions. The evidence is out there. Movie named Loose Change will explain this to anyone who thinks it was terrorists. The war in Iraq was about the oil, no more than that no wmd were found and won't be. In the UK the Holocaust has been removed from school curriculum's, why because it offended the Muslims.

Our governments lie to us, they've always lied to us, there are powers unseen by most who control this world they control the wars and both sides are financed by the same backers. Elections are rigged, We are controlled there are cameras watching our every move just type into your mobile phone where am I and it'll tell you almost to the spot, this with 2012 isn't so much about the Mayans its man and his desire for more more more and me me me. We humans are going to be the products of our own annihilation, our own demise we've stripped our planet earth of almost all her resources, the population is 65 billion, and growing, there are powers out there that have suppressed our true power and abilities since time began.

Its all been foretold for all of us to discover and its all coming to pass, I was told that on 21st June 2009, that was the beginning of the 7th trumpet. I'm not particularly religious, but I see all around me everyday how people care less about others, there no community spirit, we don't look out for each other anymore, and yes I do believe that 2012 is going to mark the end of life as we know it, not so much our world ending but things will be changing and many here will wish they were not, Have you looked around the USA, huge fema camp prisons are built with row on row of coffins, what are they for,

Lucifer or Satan rules this world and I believe he's going to re appear on earth soon, The world won't literally end, or will it claims of Nibiru or planet ex could be true, and if so it means we were all seeded by aliens, the annunaki, and they're allegedly coming back in or around 2012, the date isn't precise but it's a possibility.

Look how immoral the planets inhabitants are, we now celebrate same sex relationships and they're even allowed a kind of marriage ceremony, marriage was a concept designed for Male and Female, it was the norm until this century, give it 10 years and heterosexuals will be the oddity,( if we are still a race that is) I'm not for or against same sex, but when its being taught in schools as an alternative relationship, I think that shows what this world has become, its in the bible that man should not lay with man, and sodomy is a sin, yet its practiced everywhere, even celebrated, and for this and other reasons, I truly believe the world as we know it will soon disappear its doing so right under our noses now. I hope and pray my sons grow up to be heterosexuals,assuming they get to grow up, that wasn't how it was ten years ago, with my eldest son I had no such worries.

There's an elite group controlling our world, the Illuminati, and they have plans to take this world over, via the new world order, and they're succeeding. Call me crazy I don't care, I have researched this for over 10 years. Just look around you at the world today.

Here's are 2 links to sites where you'll find the results of my research its all there take a look if you want to or not, the choice is yours, however I suggest to all that its time to wake up, I'm not a doomsdayer I am however I believe more of a realist and its time we all knew the truth.

2012wakeupcall (http://sites.google.com/site/2012wakeupcall/)
Or
2012infoshare (http://sites.google.com/site/2012infoshare/Home)

Just_Another_Lemming
Jul 7, 2010, 03:46 PM
Wow positiveparent. Now I feel guilty and rather shallow. I was considering curlyben's question thinking, yes, I would like to know so that I can go out and get laid as often as possible. You know, go out with a "bang" and all that. I guess I need to rethink my answer now.

tickle
Jul 7, 2010, 04:09 PM
Wow positiveparent. Now I feel guilty and rather shallow. I was considering curlyben's question thinking, yes, I would like to know so that I can go out and get laid as often as possible. You know, go out with a "bang" and all that. I guess I need to rethink my answer now.

Postive's approach to the problem of 20l2 does not necessarily mirror mine, and is only his opinion. It is not necessary to change your thinking, Just, you are your own person.

Tick

positiveparent
Jul 7, 2010, 04:15 PM
I agree its up to the individual how they want to view or approach the whole 2012 thing, and what's good for me isn't necessarily good for anyone else, we've all got a right to our own opinions on anything we choose in life, and what I believe or feel is what I choose to look at in this matter.

It wouldn't do for us to all share the same views on life or anything about it. Its just my opinion.

Im also a female.

KBC
Jul 7, 2010, 06:57 PM
Im also a female.

:p... I knew there was something I liked about you:D

How is your future looking in the near times?

positiveparent
Jul 8, 2010, 10:12 AM
:p...I knew there was something I liked about you:D

How is your future looking in the near times??

Ive no idea about my future like all others we don't know what's going to happen, we can hope for a good future we can work towards obtaining that aim, but if we get it or not is not in our hands, All anyone of us has or ever will have is NOW this moment, So I live each day as it comes in the way I believe is right for me and my family, by being the best person I can be and doing unto others as I would have done to myself. I think I walk my talk, and practice what I preach, although I don't believe I actually preach, I wish all others all the love and luck in the world and that I hope they're God goes with them.

NeedKarma
Jul 8, 2010, 10:22 AM
Positive,

A lot of the stuff you mention in your long post seems to apply mostly to the US, not the rest of the world.

I see you chose "positiveparent" as your user name, doesn't that kind of conflict with your doomsday prediction? Are you raising your kids to believe that they only have a few years to live?

positiveparent
Jul 8, 2010, 10:43 AM
My intentions were not to portray my thoughts as being aimed at any one country, it is very much the same here in the UK.

Ive no idea of how people in the USA live so I would say if anything it is based upon how people in the UK are.

I am raising my children to be good kind and helpful to others, to be responsible for their actions and to accept they're going to need to live by rules of the land and to respect others for being entitled to their opinions and not judge others who may appear to be or have less than they do.
In this I believe I am being am positive parent.

As stated my beliefs or thoughts on 2012 are merely an opinion I reached after doing many years of research. I like everyone else have no real idea what will happen if anything in 2012, I merely gave my opinion to how I feel the world has become.

Again my children will and already do have a right to voice their opinions, and I do not inflinct my beliefs or opinions on anyone else.

If they differ to anothers that's fine we all have our own perceptions of reality and how we interpret same.

NeedKarma
Jul 8, 2010, 10:46 AM
Ok, I was just wondering if people who think that humanity will perish in two years lived any differently. Your story is very entertaining. :)

positiveparent
Jul 8, 2010, 10:58 AM
Ok, I was just wondering if people who think that humanity will perish in two years lived any differently. Your story is very entertaining. :)

I didn't say humanity will perish in 2 years time, I said I think the world as we know it will possibly change, in or around 2012, I didn't give a timeline or date, as stated Im entitled to my opinion and perceptions as are you, if they don't compliment one anothers that's fine, we all see the world through our own eyes.

TO QUOTE Part of my original reply. " if a person voices an opinion theyre treated with contempt, not just as a person with a right to an opinion"

I rest my case.

NeedKarma
Jul 8, 2010, 11:21 AM
Then I agree with you: the world will as we know it will change sometime in the future, as it always has.
I wasn't treating you with contempt, I was wondering if that mindset/perception affected one's way of living.

positiveparent
Jul 8, 2010, 11:34 AM
Then I agree with you: the world will as we know it will change sometime in the future, as it always has.
I wasn't treating you with contempt, I was wondering if that mindset/perception affected one's way of living.

Then I apologise to you for misinterpreting your comments.

NeedKarma
Jul 8, 2010, 11:40 AM
No problem mate. I'm off to play golf with my lesbian friend, she's a hoot.

bEaUtIfUlbRuNeTtE
Jul 8, 2010, 12:14 PM
I would not want to know about it because all my focus would be on preparing for that event and not what really matters to me.

positiveparent
Jul 8, 2010, 12:54 PM
No problem mate. I'm off to play golf with my lesbian friend, she's a hoot.

LOL I too have lesbian friends and aquaintances and also gay men friends and I agree they're a hoot and great fun..