U may not believe me but I think there is a demon in my house and I'm scared to death. If you know any thing about 638 Reeves rd please tell me!! Please I'm desprate to know!! Thank you.

Demons are in your mind not your house.

They do exist. I've encountered a couple, and don't care to encounter another one. One was actually in a house we lived in and harassed my daughter until we got a group of Christian friends together to drive it out. What specifically makes you think there's one in your house?

I am assuming since you posted this in Christianity, that you want a christian answer. While this will vary by religious denomination, many from the Penticostal to Catholics all believe they exist and even have rules or procedures to rid a house or a person of them.

Now with that said, it happens even in those groups that accept them, very rarely.

So why do you believe they are there? What is happening.

Have you discussed this with your pastor of your local church

u may not believe me but i think there is a demon in my house and im scared to death. if u know any thing about 638 Reeves rd please tell me!!! please im desprate to know!!! thank you.

Hello,

1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devil

Revelation 12: 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.


Psalm 106: 36 And they served their idols: which were a snare unto them.

37 Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils


Mark 3: 22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.

There are more scriptures that prove demons excist. Please seek help by first praying and asking God to help you. If you are sincere, God will help you get rid of them. You can also pray outloud using God's name Jehovah. Psalm 83: 18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

Proverbs 18: 10 The name of the LORD is a strong tower: the righteous runneth into it, and is safe.

James 2: 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my f2aith by my works.

19 Thou2 believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Draw close to the true God, He will protect you.

Hope12 PS: All scriptures are taken from KJV of the Bible

Demons are in your mind not your house.

Not so. They are very real according to the Bible.

Hi classy

demons do exist and I assume that you are subject to an oppression. It is possible that a demon exists because of something that has happened in the house, but it is just as likely you have inadvertently opened yourself to the oppression.

So the standard things are.

repent of all sin in your life and of all sinfull acts which might have occurred in the house

Ask for inspiriation

renounce all the acts of satan, even if you have already done this, and reaffirm your commitment to Jesus. Remember he who is in you is greater and you have the authority of Jesus

anoint the doorways with oil which you have consecrated, if the demon appears to be in one room only anoint the corners of the room and pray in each binding the demon and ordering it to leave. Read appropriate scriptures aloud. Do this in the company of other Christians and if possible invite your pastor

play praise music in the house

Paracelete,

I'm not struggling with demons myself. BUT I agree with EVERYTHING you just said. I once got a book I believe it was Breaking the Bondage Barrior. I don't remember... but he lists all different ways we allow Satan access to our lives. Things we would NEVER think of... at least I didn't and the author said to repent and renounce it.

How do demons select who sees them?

dirttyvampire,

Even your user name is cause for pause. THINK about it.

How do demons select who sees them?

I don't know. But they are real and people who dabble in the occult should be leary of giving them a foothold into their lives. Course if you go to Gettysburg there are all kinds of stories concerning spirits being actually seen. I do NOT believe they are human IF they do exsist. The Bible is pretty clear that after death the human soul and spirt are ushered eilsewhere.

Is it only Christians that have demons then?

Not at all... I think more people who are NOT Christian have more problems with demonic activity.

It probably sounds silly to someone who doesn't even believe in demons.. but tarrot cards, ouji boards... all of the opens a door.

In the OT Israel was forbidden to mess with witches and the occult and the NT says they are alive and well and not to give them access to your life.

Well fear and anxiety actually feed whatever energy you are giving these creatures whether they are real or not.

Fear can create your own hellish experience no matter what religion or non religion or culture or back ground. Fear is something that wants it has that control over you it will only get worse.

Learn how to let go of that fear, face up to that fear and know that it can not harm you unless you let it. That will be your saving grace.

Well fear and anxiety actually feed whatever energy you are giving these creatures whether they are real or not.

Fear can create your own hellish experience no matter what religion or non religion or culture or back ground. Fear is something that wants it has that control over you it will only get worse.
That is what I was referring to in the first reply in this thread, that demons are a product of the person not the house.

Hello v:

There are no demons. There's no heaven or hell. There's no ghosts, goblins, tooth fairy's, santa clauses, luck, god, devils, werewolves, or vampires. But, Christians think there are. Oh, well.

excon

NK and JH,

We are not giving a SPIRIT of fear, but of love, power and a sound mind. 2 Timothy 1:7

So we can conclude that a spirit of fear is NOT of God. It does have torment.. the bible says it does and we know from personal experience it does.

But to suggest it is ALL in the mind isn't so. There are demonic spirits out there, they do roam around they can enter a person. The bible is clear on the subject.

But I agree that one should make sure it isn't just fear.

Hello v:

There are no demons. There's no heaven or hell. There's no ghosts, goblins, tooth fairy's, santa clauses, luck, god, devils, werewolves, or vampires. But, Christians think there are. Oh, well.

excon

There is NO santa?. geesh you have ruined my day!! :D

Well ex, Christians THINK so because the bible says it. :p

Well ex, Christians THINK so because the bible says it. :pMorning, T:

Yeah. I've read some books too. Noooo, I don't believe everything in them.

excon

Whether it is real or not Classy, how you react and whether you feed into the fear or not will determine if it will be a major problem in the persons life.

And yes people create negative effects and negative situations by their fear. That is just the way it is.

That is what I was referring to in the first reply in this thread, that demons are a product of the person not the house.

Wish I could rate you. I agree completely...

That is what I was referring to in the first reply in this thread, that demons are a product of the person not the house.

What's your authority for this statement? I've actually encountered one that was in a house, though I suspect I know how it got there and yes, it was a person who made it happen. Still, when he left, the demon stayed. And it harassed my 4-year-old daughter for close to a year before we were able to get rid of it.

Is it only Christians that have demons then?

No, they can bother anybody. The NT doesn't make any distinction between what some theologians call "possession" and "oppression." It just uses a general word that translates to "demonized." That's why staying close to the Lord is important. Well, one of the reasons...

No, they can bother anybody. The weird thing is that those who don't believe is supernatural beings don't report a problem with demons.

What is your authority is proving that a demon was in the house harassing your daughter?

The weird thing is that those who don't believe is supernatural beings don't report a problem with demons.

What is your authority is proving that a demon was in the house harassing your daughter?

What kind of authority would it take to persuade you? I suspect no amount of evidence would be enough, or you would find some way to explain it away. My direct experience, as well as that of my daughter, was enough to convince me of what was going on. If that's not enough for you, then I'm not going to bother.

What kind of authority would it take to persuade you? I suspect no amount of evidence would be enough, or you would find some way to explain it away. My direct experience, as well as that of my daughter, was enough to convince me of what was going on. If that's not enough for you, then I'm not going to bother.See, that's the same as I can give you when you asked about what authority I had.

NK.

See, I'm not buying that people who do not believe in demons don't ever get bothered by them. I am SURE they have and it has changed their minds.

I'm not the type of person who runs around trying to find a demonic spirit behind problems in my life. I think that is just as wrong as not recognizing they are alive and well.

But I think many unbelievers have been bothered by them just because you don't know any.. doesn't make it not so.

But I think many unbelievers have been bothered by them just because you don't know any..doesn't make it not so.That works both ways too, just because you say it or a 2000+ year old book mentions it does not make it so either. If you do a search at this site you'll notice that believers are the sole ones affected by "demons". Isn't it odd that non-believers are not represented?

Hello:

You and I look like were the same people - but we're not. We dress the same, and we speak the same language, but we AIN'T the same... YOUR world is NOTHING like mine. We might as well be living on a different planet.

I cannot imagine a world, where you could be driving down the street, and a demon causes your car to hit a tree. If I hit a tree, I'd know it was because I wasn't driving so good. You? Not so much.

I cannot imagine a world where a ghost is living in my house and doing dastardly things to my family. I cannot imagine a world where I had NO control over my life, but was at the effect of any old ghoul or evil monster...

Nope. I cannot imagine living in a world like that, and I'm SOOOOO glad I don't. Wouldn't you like to come over to MY world?? It's SAFE from those things over here.

excon

Ex,

You THINK it is safe in your world... and I KNOW better. :D

I have never seen a demon in my life nor do I intend to. But just because I can't see them doesn't mean they aren't there. Heck I can't see molucules either!. There is a spiritual world out there. I can't prove it... but I believe it by faith.

The difference between you and me is this.. I don't have enough FAITH to believe this world just happened. I don't have enough FAITH to believe we evolved from tadpoles or something... I believe in the Creator and I believe the Bible. And because I do.. I believe there are angels and there are demons. I have never encountered either and I never ever blamed any sin I have committed on the Devil nor my reckless driving on a demon.

You THINK it is safe in your world ...and I KNOW better. If someone says they feel safe and are happy you tell them that they aren't and that you know better? Really? Explain please because the arrogance in that is astounding.

NK,

Well you know me, I'm arrogant and passive aggressive. Ex knows I'm teasing him...

So you're not going to answer?

NK,

I was REALLY and TRULY teasing Ex. I meant no harm... I don't think he took it the wrong way. Ex you CAN chime in here whenever you want. Did you take it the wrong way?

BUT... just because someone believes they are safe doesn't make it so. Just because someone doesn't see danger coming.. doesnt mean it isn't. I'm not suggesting demons are around the corner for Ex. I have been trying to get him over to my side since we became friends on this site. I want him to believe in Jesus Christ, I want him to go to heaven. Is that arrogant?

I want him to believe in Jesus Christ, I want him to go to heaven. Is that arrogant?What would you say to someone that wants to convert you to atheism to save you from purposeless worshipping?

Hello again, you guys:

Here's the rub. I'm trying to rescue T from the scary world she lives in, and she's trying to rescue me from the scary one I live in. Go figure. I think we're doing that for the same reasons, too. I want the best for her, and I think she wants the best for me.

But, I'm not going to stop proselytizing, and she isn't either.

excon

What would you say to someone that wants to convert you to atheism to save you from purposeless worshipping?

If what I do is puposeless then what have I lost? What will YOU lose if I am right and you are wrong?

What will YOU lose if I am right and you are wrong?Nothing. So let's carry on then.

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ClassyT agrees: Yeah... but I see YOU caving... ;)Hello again, T:

Let's meet in Cancun. The first one with a religious experience switches.

Excon

Hello, I sympathize with you because I had demons follow me for over 12 years. I searched for answers outside of God's word, and I even turned to mediums and phsycics for answers other than taking this to God in prayer.

The one thing I'd like to stress and this is the example in scripture that we are to have nothing to do with familiar spirits and that includes demons.

Many authors and public figures show by example that we can 'entertain' evil, and 'control' it but the fact is we are not strong enough. The only way we can find victory, deliverance is through the victory of the Cross. ( The means of the cross)

Personally, if you want freedom, then ask God for it, ask Him to show you the areas of where there is sin in your life that causes evil to manefest itself. Whatever it is, repent, and turn away from it. Keep your house clean as scripture describes, but do not keep it empty. Fill it with the knowledge and love of Jesus Christ. Once you posture yourself upright against God's word and His son, your life will change and you will see for yourself 'resiste the devil and he will flee.'

The thing is the mind, the brain and the way we think and feel actually do greatly effect the world around us and how we react to things. It is proven scientifically that the mind can create lots of things.

Including illnesses, anxieties , etc...

I believe God created all of us, in his image. His thought, word created what is seen and unseen. We are made in his image.

Just think about it. Our thoughts, our mind creates and manifests into the seen.

Whether it be illness, or fear or anxieties and etc too many things to mention.

When you believe your healed and you know your better. You think yourself into healing. The gift of God is amazing and the power of thought creates. Either positively or negatively.

There is lots of scientific evidence to prove in the placebo effects of believing in something and how it effects your whole mind and body.

See, that's the same as I can give you when you asked about what authority I had.

The difference is that you're simply saying you don't know of any such beings or events. I'm saying I've had direct encounters and they scared the sh** out of me. Basically, you're giving an argument from silence, and those are some of the weakest kind. As they often say in the archaeology world, "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." And actually, there's all kinds of evidence to suggest that unbelievers do get harassed by demons. They just don't call it that. They find some other explanation.

excon, I don't know of anybody who has ever claimed a demon made them drive into a tree, or any of the other absurd scenarios you set forth. That's a straw man argument, and it's almost as weak as the argument from silence. The testimonial evidence is there for anybody who wants to evaluate it in an unbiased manner. Whether it convinces you or anybody else is irrelevant; it's still evidence, and in most cases it's eyewitness evidence. Do with it what you will, but the one thing you can't do is make it go away or cease to exist.

The difference is that you're simply saying you don't know of any such beings or events. I'm saying I've had direct encounters and they scared the sh** out of me. Basically, you're giving an argument from silence, and those are some of the weakest kind. As they often say in the archaeology world, "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." And actually, there's all kinds of evidence to suggest that unbelievers do get harassed by demons. They just don't call it that. They find some other explanation.

excon, I don't know of anybody who has ever claimed a demon made them drive into a tree, or any of the other absurd scenarios you set forth. That's a straw man argument, and it's almost as weak as the argument from silence. The testimonial evidence is there for anybody who wants to evaluate it in an unbiased manner. Whether it convinces you or anybody else is irrelevant; it's still evidence, and in most cases it's eyewitness evidence. Do with it what you will, but the one thing you can't do is make it go away or cease to exist.So by your explanation it some event happens to one person that is proof positive for its existence? Is it not possible that the few who have "seen" demons have some personal psychological issues? If you can provide some examples of non-religious people being hounded by demons that would be interesting.

I don't know of anybody who has ever claimed a demon made them drive into a tree, or any of the other absurd scenarios you set forth. That's a straw man argument, Hello again, Dave:

You call my argument a straw man. I call it an allegory. Certainly, you DO think demons do BAD stuff to people. Otherwise you wouldn't give two hoots about them.

excon

Hello again, Dave:

You call my argument a straw man. I call it an allegory. Certainly, you DO think demons do BAD stuff to people. Otherwise you wouldn't give two hoots about them.

excon

It didn't come across as allegory. Thanks for the clarification.

The thing is the mind, the brain and the way we think and feel actually do greatly effect the world around us and how we react to things. It is proven scientifically that the mind can create lots of things.

Including illnesses, anxieties and etc...

I believe God created all of us, in his image. His thought, word created what is seen and unseen. We are made in his image.

Just think about it. Our thoughts, our mind creates and manifests into the seen.

Whether it be illness, or fear or anxieties and etc too many things to mention.

When you believe your healed and you know your better. You think yourself into healing. The gift of God is amazing and the power of thought creates. Either positively or negatively.

There is lots of scientific evidence to prove in the placebo effects of believing in something and how it effects your whole mind and body.

Joe,

The Lord Jesus himself cast out demons when he was on earth. He didn't tell ANYONE it was a state of mind. He spoke directly to them. The Apostle Paul cast out a demonic spirit out of a girl in Acts. It wasn't a state of mind.

I DO agree that thinking positive thoughts is a great idea and is helpful in life but it isn't about positive energy or negative energy when it comes to demons.

I don't know how to get around that... it is what it is.

Jesus said you can move mountains with faith.

He told many people to get up and walk. It is the Believing, the acting and doing.

So yes the mind does have lots to do with it and if you really paid attention to what Jesus was teaching this world would be a better place for everyone who knew what he was teaching about what we ALL can do.

Joe

Well short of being called a nut and this was over 30 years ago, but I have never figured a science reason for a couch flying across the room along with other items.

I guess gravity was cancelled for a moment due to a comet or something. Most of the ministers or priests that do exosims swear to secrecy on what happens do do riducule

I never said it does not exist or does not happen. What I am saying is Fear actually feeds that type of activity. Fear comes from? So when you get rid of that fear and face up to whatever it is? What happens?

I think jesushelper pretty much said it as clearly as possible, the mind creates and forms the world around you. Everyone's reality is different because the way they were brought up and there own experience and beliefs. People at one point used to argue the world was flat for Christ sakes, did the intellectuals and people with common sense believe it? Probably not, I know it's not a terribly good analogy for the situation but point proven none the less. It's incredibly easy to proclaim excellence and authority on a topic when it's impossible to prove it one way or the other.

Fact of the matter is, the mind makes as much as it possibly can real through it's own reality and understanding. There is some truth to the famous quote "there is nothing to fear, but fear itself." because you can't be scared of something you don't believe is real because it doesn't register in your mind the same way as others. Some believe, some don't. Some people are great speakers, some great mathematicians, others have really on the spot sensations and intuition and pick up on energies and moods and the such. Maybe they are more in tune with the world that is and the world beyond, because there is something beyond IMO. I suppose my real point is that people who haven't had an experience with a demon probably don't believe in it. Just the same as people who have never been in a crash think it will never happen to them. Or better yet how many people go through life thinking they will hit the lottery, but some people do. The world is way too large for any single person to experience everything in it.

In my opinion it's naïve to disregard anyone's testimony unless they are discredited for real provable reasons and labeled an obvious loony lol.

As far as my opinion goes I do believe in demon's, but I also believe in aliens to some extent. They probably aren't a space fairing race that visits the earth all the time but hell we don't and can't see beyond the event horizon so who knows what the hell is beyond. All I know is I have experienced something that goes beyond the normal in my life that was just way too coincidental to be anything else but a VERY negative spirt/demon/energy.

Jesus said you can move mountains with faith.

He told many people to get up and walk. It is the Believing, the acting and doing.

So yes the mind does have lots to do with it and if you really paid attention to what Jesus was teaching this world would be a better place for everyone who knew what he was teaching about what we ALL can do.

Joe

Well, I don't know. For ME you are minimizing it as just as state of mind. BTW, Jesus didn't just say get up and walk, he healed them first and they activated their faith by doing it. Lazarus was DEAD... he didn't have any faith at that point. The Lord also healed people by saying they were healed without ever seeing the actual sick person.

I get what you are saying about fear but sometimes fear just isn't in the equation. There are people I believe who are possessed who don't even KNOW it. Can I prove that? No I can't but I believe it. Satan himself will enter the Anti-christ and there is no fear involved whatsoever there.

I'm not trying to argue with you Joe ( well maybe I am just a little) and probably for the OP what you are saying is true. :)

Not minimizing at all. Actually Jesus said we all can do the same. Read the bible.

Jesushelper...

I do read the Bible!! In fact, I'm darn good at reading and BELIEVING it. Justsosya know. ;)

Well I have been reading the bible on my own since I was 9 years old. Front to back and many times over. (;

Jesushelper,

Well I haven't read it cover to cover since age 9. BUT... I'm still pretty knowledgeable... just ask me. :D

I think were getting side tracked on the original point of the topic, it's not a pi$$ing contest about who knows more word for word of the good book.

Lol, No it is not. Joe just because I said I have been reading the bible since 9 does not mean I know more. There are certain areas of interpretations that are different depending on who reads it.

As far as things being sidetracked when your talking about demons there is a lot the bible says about demons and how to handle them.

That is why I say that you need to have trust and believe and not be so fearful or you give that more control.

How are you doing by the way. Hope your doing well.

Joe

I am doing quite well, got a meeting with my Air Force recruiter at 7:00 tonight and I get to buy my motorcycle this month! I don't even have time to worry about bad dreams and the other things I was having trouble with lol.

But back to the point of this topic, I have hardly ever even picked up the bible. I mean my knowledge of it is bare minimum, the last time I even touched one was about 3 years ago to steal one of the blank pages because they are so thin, I used it to roll a joint with... I also asked for forgiveness for it awhile back because apparently that's quite the no no. I suppose what I am getting at is that in my opinion the bible tries to mask almost everything evil as a demon even if it's just bad luck... Also I would like you to elaborate on what you mean by saying


Well fear and anxiety actually feed whatever energy you are giving these creatures whether they are real or not.

Fear can create your own hellish experience.



When I read that I got the idea that you don't believe the idea that demons truly exist... At least not as a physical or meta physical way but as more of an idea. Same as when possibly you or someone else said something along the lines of demons being nothing but a creation or culmination of the fears of your own mind. So do you think demons can actually haunt and impose fear on a person or as more of just a negative energy that can cause a person to second guess themselves and their faith?

Who knows I suppose, even after my own horrid experience I still second guess it for possibly something that just went horribly wrong with my sleep cycle that cascaded other parts of my mind into creating my own demonic experience through a mixture of fear and paranoia that then exploded exponentially once the long term sleep deprivation set in, therefor making my own mind turn weapon against me by having it repeat exactly what I didn't want to happen when I fell asleep. God possibly fixed a real problem for me when I started to pray nightly or possibly my mind just used the idea of god to end a loop of terror because it's been conditioned by media to see god as something that makes those things go away and therefor it did...

Joe,

No doubt in my mind God took those things away.

Do I believe in Demons or evil spirits or forces , etc... Yes I do. The thing is I also believe that the mind and brain can effect a lot of things in our lives.

Scientists claim that we only use 10 percent of our brain. Imagine what we could do in this world if we learned about the other 90 percent.

The thing is there could be many different explanations about many different experiences, but whenever I answer questions or talk about different topics.

I do it in a way where everybody gets something from my answer no matter their beliefs or back ground or experiences. You see we as humans uses a lot of different words and expressions to pretty much describe similar things.

Negative energy, positive energy, fear, anxiety and so many other words that could be also taken as Evil and Good, and so on and so on.

You see we all might see the same thing but describe it differently, might word it differently, might have different names for it. It does not change what it actually is.

Now the causes on the other hand of certain reasons for it happening. Just because I state that fear can create lots of experiences in people. Does not mean I do not believe in it. Although the more power you give something, what can happen?

You had a battle going on, and I believe it was on many many different levels. Might have started a certain way but eventually the fear just continues to snowball into worse things. Whether it was evil, or not. Whether it was fear and sleep deprived? Does not matter in the scheme of things.

What matters is the outcome, and the decision for yourself to turn to something, God... To help you get out of the whole the darkness you were in.

It helped. You had a spiritual experience and your are praying daily because of this. It is good. Right?

Also the relief of knowing things changed, did that not make you feel and think more positive which led to more changes in the right direction, Right?

You see our minds and brains can do a lot of amazing things. Who created our minds, and brains. God given. There are many mysteries still to this day about the brain. There is so much more we all need to learn.

Scientists claim that we only use 10 percent of our brain.



No scientist has ever made such a claim. This is one of those legends that just won't go away. Some psychics like to promote it since it leaves 90% for "psychic" activity!

snopes.com: Ten Percent of our Brains (http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percent.asp)

(Excuse the interruption)

I think you missed his point, I was assuming he was using it as an expression. From what I've read any ways is that we use almost most of our brain, somewhere around 95%+ of our brains. I on the other hand wouldn't be surprised if we only used about 10% of our true abilities.

I think you missed his point, I was assuming he was using it as an expression. From what I've read any ways is that we use almost most of our brain, somewhere around 95%+ of our brains. I on the other hand wouldn't be surprised if we only used about 10% of our true abilities.

Your lack of surprise notwithstanding, the scientific community says you're wrong, but your right to remain in ignorance is safe.

Your lack of surprise notwithstanding, the scientific community says you're wrong, but your right to remain in ignorance is safe.

You already stated what you thought in your last post to Joe. That was fine. But this added comment is totally uncalled for. I really wanted to give you a reddie but I won' t do it... I will use a little self control.
I don't know about the scientific community but in the christian community, I find your responses to sincere people on this Christian forum to be arrogant and rude. I'm not sure what it was you added to the OP's question but your brilliant thoughts in the world of science has been noted. Thanks a million... :rolleyes: