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confusedbroken13
May 26, 2010, 06:23 AM
Let me begin by giving some background information.
I am married to my best friend of 18 years. We celebrated our five year wedding anniversary this past Valentine's Day. We have a 12 yr old son together. In August 2007, we fought and gained custody of his 14 yr old daughter. We both wanted her to come live with us and was happy that we were able to make it happen.

Within a few days of her moving in, my husband had a accident at work and almost died, he was hit in the front of his head with a tree. He suffered brain damage. He is still able to function but he has trouble remembering things and he is real quick tempered and suffers pains in his head where he was hit. He struggles with confusion. My stepdaughter has put us through hell since moving in with us and 8 months ago she ( at the age of 16) admitted that she was in love with her dad and wanted a sexual relationship with him.

I am trying to summarize to get to point. I struggled with her feelings because she told me in detail how she dreamt about having sex with her dad, how she wanted me out of his life, how she didn't think he loved me, she told me how she thought I wasn't good enough, pretty enough. She had this all planned out to get me out of the house. She didn't care who she hurt. I was real close to her before she moved in and then I have tried and tried with her.

I always knew that my husband didn't look at his child that way. I never had trust issues with him. I didn't trust his daughter, she had tainted every aspect of their relationship. SHe had told me how she liked his body against hers when they hugged or how she thought of him as her man when they would walk around the yard and talk. I mean everything was tainted by her sick feelings.

My husband and I began to argue a lot. He just wanted everything to go away and none of it be real and I just wanted and needed him to understand that I feared what she was going to do. It got to the point that I was so uncomfortable in my own home. I didn't want them alone for the fear that she might come on to him or cause problems afterwards.

Every time I tried to talk to my husband, we would argue and he would think that I was accusing him of wanting something sick with his own child. A month ago, she was out of school and I went to my husband and I just wanted him to see that I was trying and I wanted to make things better. I agreed to leave them at home while I took our son to school. She would be asleep. I woke my husband up before I left and he went to lay on the couch. WHen I arrived home, I was excited to come in and tell my husband that I did okay. I just wanted him to be proud of me but he wasn't in the living room so I went to our room and he wasn't there and I heard moaning and heavy breathing. I looked around the corner and he was laying on her bed and she was on top of him bumping and grinding. I started screaming his name and ran down the hall.

I couldn't believe it. I had to go back down the hall again before they stopped. He was just laying there with his hands behind his head. They both were naked. When she got off him and he got dressed, he didn't have a hard on or anything, he was sweaty. I asked him why and he couldn't tell me. He said he had went in there to wake her up and tell her he was proud of her because he felt she had been trying to change lately and he hugged her and then pulled her shirt off. He said he didn't know why. They both said that he wasn't inside of her so they actually didn't have sex but still. He kept telling me that he did this, that she didn't. I feel as though it was both of them.

I have an inner feeling that she made a move on him and he doesn't want me to know. Im afriad that his brain injury may have caused him to do this. I want my marriage. I know what he done was wrong on every level but who ever he was in that bedroom that morning isn't the man I have known for eighteen years. I have no desire to forgive his daughter and I am just counting the days until she moves out. I do have a desire to forgive my husband though. I know he regrets what he has done and if he had his way he would be killed for his actions.

He has begged me to call the police on them and has tried hisself and I won't let him. I don't think that he derserves that when nothing would be done to her. He feels awful because I still love him and I am still here and want my marriage. He doesn't understand how I could. I really don't know how to explain it other than my heart can't stop loving just because its broken and destroyed and I married for life, for better or worse. How do you forgive the unforgivable?

talaniman
May 26, 2010, 06:43 AM
They need help, both of them, Get that for them, and then forgive, but get them help first ASAP!!

Cat1864
May 26, 2010, 06:59 AM
I agree with Tal, they need help immediately.

When she first started saying these things, did you look into finding her counseling? If so, what did the people you contacted say?

confusedbroken13
May 26, 2010, 08:00 AM
My step daughter has been in counseling since a few months after moving in with us. She won't be honest. When she admitted to having these feelings, we got her into therapy once a week for sexually abused kids. We even had to have her committed in November for writing how she wanted to kill all of us cause she couldn't have her dad. She won't be honest in therapy. I wouldn't have struggled so much if I had known she was getting help but I knew she wasn't. I even went to therapy prior to finding them like that, trying to work on my issues with it all and I felt like it wasn't good enough for my husband but her lying was.

talaniman
May 26, 2010, 09:24 AM
Sorry that your husband and daughter are so dysfunctional, but that doesn't mean you have to be also.

Get them some help ASAP, and remove yourself from this situation. They will make you a nervous wreck, if you do not.

You CANNOT deal with their issues on your own, so don't try. You probably need more help than they do, at this point.

Devorameira
May 26, 2010, 09:33 AM
You actually are defending him and placing all of the blame on his daughter. Unbelievable!

She's a mere child who has obviously already lived through hell, and when your household should have been a safe haven for her, it turned into a den of lions. I don't care what she did to try to get him in bed, he's the adult and should have never allowed it.

I'm sorry, but I would have called the police and had him arrested. If you think he's that far out of his mind from his injury that he would do something that vile to his daughter, why would you trust him around your son? Boys are molested just as often as girls.

Get out of the situation before it drive you crazy.

confusedbroken13
May 26, 2010, 10:11 AM
I am not placing all the blame on his daughter. It took two to do what was done that morning. I blame her for everything she has done since moving into my home. She isn't a child, she is a young adult. She is 17 now. It doesn't matter what hell she has lived through, she shouldn't have came into my home and tried to destroy my life and family. I had a rough childhood and I have never and would never do the things she has done. I can't forgive her when she doesn't regret anything she has done or anything that happened that morning. I know in my heart that my husband didn't have any thought like that before that moment, I know that he hates himself for what has happened. He doesn't understand or know why he acted the way he did. He said his head hurt really bad and all he wanted to do was tell her he thought she was doing a good job and he was proud of her. He said he hugged her and then he pulled her shirt up. He said that even when she was on top of him, he wasn't excited,horny, he was just there. I have wondered if he pulled up her shirt to see what she would do and when she went with it, he just gave up and lost his mind. I don't know how a parent should feel knowing their own child has these feelings and then to know that they are willing to take it that far. He never wanted to believe that she was telling the truth about having the feelings. None of that excuses what was done. There isn't an excuse. That's not what I am looking for. I am looking for advice about how to forgive and move past this. As for my son, I watch my child very close and would never let anyone hurt him.

Cat1864
May 26, 2010, 11:21 AM
There isnt an excuse. Thats not what I am looking for. I am looking for advice about how to forgive and move past this.

Is everyone still in the same house? Are the same problems still going on? Are you still worried about what your step-daughter will do? Are you worried about what your husband might do?

As long as the problems still exist, you won't be able to forgive and move past 'that morning'.

Has your husband had any counseling? You say that you and the step-daughter have, but what about him?

At the very least, this needs to be discussed with his doctors. They may need to determine if the damage extends farther than they first thought. His impulse control seems to be lacking, too.

Has anyone determined what happened to the girl to warp her concept of reality?

confusedbroken13
May 26, 2010, 12:35 PM
Is everyone still in the same house? yes we are all still living under the same roof
Are the same problems still going on? she still has these feelings and she is pissed that we are still together and trying to get through this

Are you still worried about what your step-daughter will do? yes very much so

Are you worried about what your husband might do? i believe that he will not make the same mistake and I beleive that he doesnt look at her like that

As long as the problems still exist, you won't be able to forgive and move past 'that morning'.

Has your husband had any counseling? You say that you and the step-daughter have, but what about him? no..before that morning, he refused to accept what she was saying..he just wanted it all to go away so he could have his family back again and everything be normal

At the very least, this needs to be discussed with his doctors. They may need to determine if the damage extends farther than they first thought. His impulse control seems to be lacking, too.
I think the same thing but I am scared that they will have him locked up and I dont feel as though he deserves that. If you could see the regret in his eyes over what happened and the hatred he has for himself, you would understand why I dont want him arrested.

Has anyone determined what happened to the girl to warp her concept of reality? Therapist have tried and tried but she lies about everything noone knows whats real and whats made up.

I tried to answer the questions with each question... There is so much that happened prior to that morning and I just don't know how to get it all down... From October to the middle of February, she would sit there and look at her dad in a sexual way and I'd catch her and whenever I told my husband, he wouldn't believe me. Then she finally admitted it in front of him and told him that she couldn't help herself. We told her therapist and she would tell them something different. Through all of this up until that morning happened I have tried to be there for her and be a mother to her and I have told her that I just wanted her to get help not bury this because that wouldn't help her in the long run. I have tried and tried and at every turn I am being hurt and now I feel completely broken.

jmjoseph
May 26, 2010, 01:35 PM
He knows what he did was wrong. If he really wanted to turn himself in, he would have by now.

Is it the brain injury? Does he steal things in stores? Does he act irrational at all? Was this just an isolated incident?

Or was he intentionally sexually molesting his own child?

I truly feel for you. This must be devastating for you.

She needs counseling, and he needs to be checked out by a specialist.

How do you function in most every way, and then just suddenly have the desire to be with your child naked.

I just wonder how far it would have gone if you didn't walk in on them.

God bless you all.

confusedbroken13
May 26, 2010, 02:08 PM
Is it the brain injury? Does he steal things in stores? Does he act irrational at all? Was this just an isolated incident?

Or was he intentionally sexually molesting his own child?

He doesn't steal but he has acted irrational at different times... confused most of the time... unable to do certain things that he could before... unable to follow conversations at times.. very short tempered... not able to remember saying or doing things...

I believe that what happened that morning was an isolated incident. I have wondered how far things wouldve gotten had I not walked in but I have asked him and he has told me that he didn't know what he was doing and that he is glad that I came in as he puts it "made me realize what was happening and stopping it all together" He has told me that they did not kiss or touching anywhere other than they hugged and he lifted her shirt up and then they were still hugging and they feel over on the bed.. then she undressed herself and he undressed his self and then she straddled him... he swears that she didn't touch him in his privates and he didn't touch hers. That he bumping and grinding on top of him was the only physical contact like that... I know what I saw and I didn't see him inside of her, his arms were behind his head and when she moved off him, his thing wasn't hard...

I am completely devastated and I feel completely destroyed and broken.. I can't believe either one of them could hurt me this much. I am completely in love with my husband and I love her as if she was my own child. I have known her since she was born, I helped take care of her even before my husband and I got together. I have loved her since she was born. My son has no ideal what has happened. He knew his sister claimed these nasty feelins about their dad but that's it. I am worried about if he ever finds out. I don't want him hurt. This would completely destroy him.

chrystal2010
May 26, 2010, 02:17 PM
I agree they both need counseling that's just sick.

talaniman
May 26, 2010, 02:39 PM
Don't take the sickness of others personally, but do something about it, like commit them both.

Get some help from a professional now, because your silence and inaction makes you an enabler.

Jake2008
May 27, 2010, 12:36 AM
Part of the story that is missing here is, what were the circumstances surrounding your husbands daughter moving in with you at age 16. Were you expecting a stable teen, or were there problems you were aware of that you thought you could overcome.

Part of the problem here is that you don't seem to realize that your husband had sex with his daughter. Repeat that. Your husband had sex, with his own daughter. He went into her room, he pulled up her top, he is the adult, she is the child. She was molested, and there are no justifications for that behaviour, and it doesn't matter that he has a brain injury. (by the way, did you discuss this behaviour, even in a general way, to his Doctor, or therapist?)

People will say that low functioning individuals such as those who are 'challenged' in one way or another, didn't know what they were doing, and with such a level of impairment, it it somewhat beleivable that they would pursue sexual urges with another consenting equal. It is a natural human need.

What I'm saying is, there isn't a particular 'awareness' involved.

With your husband, he was aware, and able to discuss (and 'deny'), the sexual attention he was receiving from his daughter. He could process that information, with all the implications, and he knew surely, right from wrong as far as her behaviour went.

What he acted upon, was what he saw, as a green light from her. He took advantage of that, and had sex with her. He didn't take that as a lightbulb moment and realize that he needed to get the hell out of her room, he didn't wait outside until you came home, in fact, he stayed as long as he could.

That green light I speak of is not consent. It is manifesting confused thoughts and feelings from a child, and taking that as 'permission' to rape. He may not have had a hard on when you came in the room, but you can bet your *ss that he did while you were gone.

A child that is that troubled, was, in my opinion, long ago affected deeply, very deeply, by inappropriate sexual contact, most likely as a child, more than not, from a close family member. I won't comment on that further, but experience and familiarity with similar situations, in my opinion, are sadly common, and although I am not accusing your husband, I am saying that she has been victimized more than once.

You are taking on far more than you can deal with. This isn't about forgiving, and justifying your husband having had sex with his child. This is about you thinking that forgiveness will solve the problem. I can assure you that it won't.

I beg you, for the sake of this child, take her immediately to your Doctor or therapist or local CPS, and seek professional assistance, in removing her from your home, to a safe place. She needs to be protected, and you have an obligation, at least morally, to ensure that she gets it. And yes, she needs to be protected from your husband.

Whether you remain with him, and can forgive him for what he has done, is not my call to make, nor can I judge you one way or the other, that is not my place.

What I can say, again, is that the only person that matters right now, is that child.

Please, get her out of there.

confusedbroken13
May 27, 2010, 03:20 AM
I would like to thank everyone who has posted advice... I have decided that I am walking out and notifying the appropriate people to let them handle this... I will not be posting anything else. I am going to take my child and distance us from the fallout of all of this. I am no longer willing to accept responsibililty of my husband or his child. I think it would be best for everyone if we all went our separate ways. He needs to get help. His daughter needs to get help. My son and I need to put distance between us and them and move on with our lives. Whatever the proper people think should br done with my hisband and his child is up to them. I have decided that I will stay long enough for them to place her somewhere and then I am leaving.
As much as I would like to keep my marriage and forget that this has happened, I cant. I feel it is best for me and my child for me to get out of all of this and begin to pick up the pieces of my life and focus on my child and making sure he gets through this. Again, thanks for the advice.

J_9
May 27, 2010, 03:42 AM
I have been watching this thread and I want to say that I commend you for getting out. You can get out today, it's simple. Call the police/CPS and report what you saw.

Jake2008
May 27, 2010, 06:44 AM
I have a gut feeling that what you really needed to hear from us, was confirmation of what you knew you needed to do.

This will be difficult and painful for you, and I hope that when you see your way clear, you will let us know how you are doing.

Best of luck to you.

jmjoseph
May 27, 2010, 10:42 AM
He knew what he was doing, and that is was wrong. Brain injury or not, he molested his own child.

I'm glad that you are making a change.

It would still be a good idea for you to get into counseling.

God bless you.

confusedbroken13
May 27, 2010, 05:19 PM
Just to let everyone know... my husband has been arrested and my stepdaughter has been placed in a inpatient facility. My son and I are going to start packing and move back home and start the process of rebuilding our lives. I am going to seek professional help for the both of us in our new city. My husband did not hesitate when I told him my plans. He told law enforcement everything. My step daughter became very angry and cussed at me before being taken to the facility. I plan to start the divorce process as soon as we get settled. I still can not believe that any of this has happened and I am completely devastated but I know this was the best thing and I will some how pick the pieces up and move past this. Thanks

Jake2008
May 27, 2010, 05:40 PM
I am glad you moved fast, and things happened as they should.

In the long run your stepdaughter will get the help she needs as an inpatient, and you have given her the gift of help. There was nothing else you could have done to ensure she got the help she needed.

As for you and your son, he will realize someday just what you have done to ensure his well being was taken care of, and that he was protected. There was nothing else you could have done for him that you didn't do either.

As for yourself, when the dust starts to settle, and you being to reflect upon what has happened, you have lost so much, and it will be a long road to recovery for you. But on the plus side, you didn't forgive your husband, and continue to live a horror show by him. You are gaining your freedom to start your life over.

I hope we hear from you again. My thoughts are that when he is charged, there will be criminal proceedures and charges to deal with. You may learn far more about your husband than you ever wished to know. Again, you will at least be in a position of strength not being with him, as this is all worked out in court.

Please keep in touch. I know there will be many that will be here for you when the going gets rough.

talaniman
May 27, 2010, 07:05 PM
We are here whenever you need us.

confusedbroken13
Jun 17, 2010, 10:51 AM
Its been almost 3 weeks and I have talked to both my soon to be ex husband and stepdaughter over the phone. My stbeh has called to find out how his son is doing and to talk to me. He apologizes and says that he is worried about me and our child. He has agreed not to fight the divorce and he has told the police everything. He has asked to be left in jail until his court date. Ive told him that I had no intentions of bailing him out and I didn't think anyone else would either. I feel kind of bad ffor being so harsh but I feel as though he needs to know that we only have our son in common now.
I have spoken to my stepdaughter several times and she is very angry with me. She says she doesn't understand why I had him arrested and her put away. I have tried to explain to her that she needs help fpr how she feels and what they did. I have spoken with her therapist and they do not believe that she will be getting out anytime soon. She has told them that she is in love with her dad and that she is not wrong for her feelings and that she will try to be with him when they are both free. She has told them that she doesn't want her dad to be her dad but in her words her lover. She has been adament that they did not actually have sex but that she wanted too. She has told them that she knew he would regret it but it didn't matter to her. She has told them that she feels as though she can/could help him through all of this and make him feel the way she does. The therapist have said that they believe she has bipolar and PTSD from her childhood, attachment disorder and personality disorder. They have medicated her and they say it will take several weeks before there is signs of improvement. The therapist have asked that I continue contact with her. It is really hard especially when she blames me for everything. She is very rude and direspectful towards me but she calls every night. I haven't went to see her. I am planning to in the next week or so. It will be a drive for me.
I have started therapy for myself and my son. I am coping to the best of my abilities. My son only knows that his dad had to go to jail for something bad and his sister needed round the clock care by professionals. I have decided that until his therapist feels he needs to know the truth that I am going to protect him from all of this. He missed his old life and he ask when his daddy and sister will be home. I try to explain that we are starting a new life and it may be a while before he gets to see either of them. This saddens him and saddens me. I let him talk over the phone with both of them but I listen in to insure nothing out of the way is said. His dad tells him that he is sorry and that he loves him and its his fault that we are having to start a new life. My stbeh tries to answer our sons questions but respect my decisions on things. My step daughter tells him that she is on a vacation and they joke around.
I have spoken with the DA and I am working closely with him. He doesn't know if my ex will serve prison time or not. They made commit him to a facilty instead of prison. They are planning on having him evaulated.
I am taking things on a day to day basis and talking to my therapist. I apprecaite all the post and just wanted to update everyone. Thanks

talaniman
Jun 17, 2010, 11:25 AM
Everyone is in a better place to get help with there issues and I am glad to hear your getting help for yourselves and your son too. That's great as you were both victims of crazy sick people beyond your understand, knowledge, and control, and that's my only concern, the help YOU get.

You are in our prayers.

Cat1864
Jun 17, 2010, 04:13 PM
Thank you for the update. I am glad that everyone is hopefully getting helped.

The strength you are showing is truly inspirational.

May that strength see you through the dark times and help you heal and build a better future for you and your son.

jmjoseph
Jun 17, 2010, 08:42 PM
God bless you.

aimee_tt
Jun 17, 2010, 09:16 PM
I just read this and had visions while reading it. I can only imagine what your going through but at the same time it makes me feel sick.

I am happy that you got yourself and your son out of that situation. Also that you got both your ex husband and his daughter the right treatment.

I hope you both come out fine after this and live a happy life. Oh if I could hug you id give you a big bear hug!

Jake2008
Jun 19, 2010, 10:12 AM
I have to ask you why you are maintaining contact with your husband, and his daughter.

Being involved to the point of speaking to her therapist, and talking to your husband, means that you have not made a clean break for either of them.

I'm happy that your step daughter is getting the help she needs, and with the working diagnosis so soon into treatment, shows progress for her, and that's wonderful.

Your husband possibly having alternative measures, i.e. treatment, to jail, does not mean that he will benefit from it. At some point he will be back in the picture, as will his daughter.

Why are you involved with either of them, knowing that their relationship will likely resume at some level eventually.

While it is nice that you know what's going on with them, why are you so involved.

You have a son to think about, and his emotional well being. You will be divorcing him, and with what has happened, you likely don't have to worry about joint custody. His daughter, while you provided a good home and help for her; isn't your job done now?

You keeping in such close contact with them, does not seem, somehow appropriate if that's the right word.

Do you think that you will ever let them go?

Cat1864
Jun 19, 2010, 11:24 AM
I have to ask you why you are maintaining contact with your husband, and his daughter.


Jake, her soon-to-be ex is the boy's biological father which makes the girl his half-sister. Since they are blood relation to him, it might be better to stay in contact and make certain that they are getting the help they need now rather than the son contacting them when he is an adult and not prepared for what he might find.

If it weren't for the biological factor, I would say cut all personal contact and allow lawyers to sort out the mess.

Jake2008
Jun 19, 2010, 12:57 PM
I hear you Kat. Even though he is the biological father of the son, she could make a strong case for him having no contact with him. Or make all the arrangements for the divorce/custody etc. through only the lawyers. I would not be speaking to him on the phone personally.

At the very least if it ever came to it, I would insist on supervised visitation.

And while the stepdaughter is a half sister to the son, she is also one that I would not allow contact with, and, if it came to some arrangement for her to see him, that too would be supervised.

Let's hope that the father and his daughter both benefit from therapy to ever reach that point.

grandmaknows
Jun 20, 2010, 04:58 PM
I'm sorry to tell you this but your husband is a pervert and that probably has nothing to do with the injury. He knew well enough to wait until you left the house and then go into your stepdaughter's room to have sex with her. He's probably been molesting and raping her who knows since how long ago. You need to stop defending him and call the cops on him. And please stop putting the blame on your stepdaughter. He is an adult and she is the minor- he is the sick pervert. Since you already know of this disgustingly sick incestuous relationship, if you don't call the authorities then you are as guilty as your husband for allowing it to continue. I'm sorry if I'm being harsh on you but you are wrong putting the blame on the child while you are trying excuse your husband's behavior. And please keep a very close eye on your son because he could be your husband's next victim. It's very difficult to realize that your husband is capable of such despicable actions; get help for yourself as well. Good luck.

grandmaknows
Jun 20, 2010, 05:26 PM
Confusedbroken13- I didn't realize this post had two more pages. I just finished reading your updates and I'm glad to hear your husband is away from your stepdaughter and son and that you are all getting the help you need. I'm so sorry that your stepdaughter is so messed up but it is very likely that she has been a victim of sexual abuse for a long time. Stay strong and be there for your son... he needs you strong. Best wishes.

Cat1864
Jun 20, 2010, 05:30 PM
grandmaknows, I am going to guess that you didn't read the entire thread before responding. It is usually a very good idea to read all of the posts in a thread because more information and updates generally change the advice that is needed.

In this case, she and her son have left the house and are in therapy. He is in jail and the girl has been committed.

Editted to add: Your second post came in just as I started typing. Thank you for continuing to read the thread.

mrshodges
Jun 22, 2010, 01:03 PM
Just wanted to wish you good luck and I hope you have a great life.