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Samemmack
Apr 27, 2010, 05:57 AM
Ok. So I was on Facebook not too long ago and one of my boyfriends pals pops up on friends you should know. So I go to his page to find that he's gay. My boyfriend never told me he was. So I say hello to this guy and we start talking about my boyfriend. He tells me that there are rumors at their job that my boyfriend had something going on with a gay cook there. I was SHOCKED. Then he went on to say that they broke up and my boyfriend asked this other gay guy for his number. My boyfriend denied the rumor to the 2nd gay guy telling him that he was straight and had a girlfriend. But the 2nd guy ( the one I was talking to on facebook) says that there is no way he's straight at best he's bi. I don't know what to think. I asked my boyfriend. He said they were just jealous of our relationship and want us to break up so they can be with him. He swears up and down that nothing happened that these guys are just into him. To me if you're not bi you don't let a guy have enough intamacy with you to be "into" you. He is a closeted homosexual from himself at best. If not full on cheating on me with men. We have a son. We have a great life together. Best friends. Very good sexually. He spends all his time that he's not working with the family. He does have a very quiet sweet and somewhat fem energy about him. I love it but it might come off "gay" to others. His style also might seem "metro" again I love it. I am torn up because if he's cheating on me I cannot be with him. But what if it's not true? Then I have the lingering freaking question in my head. What if he's just with me because of our lifestyle is what his parents want? What if he's having homosexual relationships behind my back can he really love me? Or just the normalcy that the hetero relationship provides him.

Fr_Chuck
Apr 27, 2010, 07:23 AM
So... he has gay friends, most of us do, I have gay friends, even been to their home for parties. That does not make one gay.

What you have now is trust issues, are you worried he is cheating with women ? If no why, cheating is cheating.

I think if you can't trust him, you are not in a relationship where you should be sleeping with him.

Samemmack
Apr 27, 2010, 07:37 AM
He would never cheat on me with a woman! My issue is if he likes men. I cannot make him happy if he likes his same sex. Get it?

CravenMorhead
Apr 27, 2010, 07:47 AM
Why is it that the ones we love the most are the ones we trust the least?

I think I have this right. Your husband, who is a good Father and Husband, has Gay friends. These Gay friends are telling you, on Facebook of all places, tells you about RUMOURS that your husband has something going on with the gay cook. You then asked your husband about these and he denied them.

Then you imply that you trust this rumour that a friend has told you over what your husband has said.

You've talked to your husband and he says that he is staunchly loyal and straight. Yet you're still entertaining the thoughts from this friend that are based on rumour.

As well, having someone into you usually doesn't require any 'letting' from the person they are into. I cannot control how into me anyone is. Even if this fellow is into your husband, I wouldn't be to concerned about it. He has sworn up and down that he is straight and only into you.

As far as I can tell you don't trust your husband when you really should. He is probably telling the truth. You have a stronger relationship and trust base with your husband then this gay friend of his. It astounds me that you are even entertaining the idea that your husband is Bi or Gay.

You've talked to him. What more do you need?

CravenMorhead
Apr 27, 2010, 07:48 AM
He would never cheat on me with a woman!! My issue is if he likes men. I cannot make him happy if he likes his same sex. Get it?

Than why do you think he would cheat on you with a man?

smoothy
Apr 28, 2010, 07:09 AM
I see nothing that indicates he is fooling around with either a man or a woman other than a "gut feeling" you have.

I'll second what Fr_Chuck said... if you are this insecure with the relationship, why are you sleeping with him? What happens if you end up pregnant?

Now if you catch him in bed with someone... or in the shower with them... THAT is a reason to worry.

Homegirl 50
Apr 28, 2010, 07:36 AM
Why would you believe someone you don't know and not believe your boyfriend, and why would you believe someone who would tell you that about your boyfriend?

Did this guy know you are is girl friend? Were you just looking for trouble by talking to this guy about your boy friend?
If so, If you look for trouble you are bound to find it, whether it's true or not.

Cat1864
Apr 28, 2010, 09:30 AM
IF he is Bi, it only means that he can be attracted to men as well as women. It doesn't mean that he is actively trying to get with every man or woman who crosses his path. It sounds like he made a decision and has chosen to be with you.

Are you so insecure in the relationship that you trust a juvenile rumor over the evidence you see daily with your own eyes? Be careful that you don't push him away due to your fears.

Kitkat22
Apr 28, 2010, 09:46 AM
Trust him.. There have been many marriages broken up because of rumors.. People like to hurt... I hate Facebook... I wish it had never been invented. Lots of people talking about something they know nothing about in a lot of cases.

Then the ones who do get on Facebook and do it for the right reasons.. thats okay.
Give your BF the benefit of the doubt... Good Luck

hungtoronto
Apr 28, 2010, 11:27 AM
My suggestion to you. Don't accuse him everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Try to find out make sure he's not gay. Because I got this co-worker who married this guy. She thought he was gay since he got along with a lot of girls in high school. He kept deny he's gay.

She ended up marrying him and has a kid. He left her a few years later to be with another guy. You never know. So just try and find out.

Kitkat22
Apr 28, 2010, 11:31 AM
My suggestion to you. Don't accuse him everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Try to find out make sure he's not gay. Because I got this co-worker who married this guy. She thought he was gay since he got along with a lot of girls in highschool. He kept deny he's gay.

She ended up marrying him and has a kid. He left her a few years later to be with another guy. You never know. So just try and find out.


Hung is right.. he is innocent until proven guilty. Don't accuse him until you know... I have friends who are gay... I'm not.

hheath541
Apr 28, 2010, 12:08 PM
He's friends with gay coworkers. So what?

Someone you don't know told you that there was a rumor that he was with one of the cooks for awhile. So what?

He's with you. You have a son. He's given you no reason to think he may be cheating. You're ONLY reason for suspicion is someone you don't know telling you that there was a rumor that he was maybe with another guy.

Even if he IS bi, that doesn't mean he would HAVE to be with another man in order to be happy. Being bi ONLY means they are attracted to both sexes, NOT that they have to sleep with both sexes. There are bisexuals who never engage in same-sex sexual activities. It's a harmful and offensive myth that bisexuals hop from partner to partner because they can't be happy without having sex with men AND women. They are just as capable as anyone else to settle down with just one person, without ever wanting to cheat.

I'll let you in on a secret. Many gays like to tease their straight friends by telling them that they're really gay, or at least bi. It doesn't mean they are. The person doing the teasing usually knows that it's just teasing. It's harmless fun, like teasing a girl friend by calling her blond when she says or does something without thinking.

Contrary to popular belief, gays can not always spot another gay. Just because someone seems to act 'gay,' doesn't mean they actually are. Many gay people act 'straight,' but that doesn't make them any less gay. Even if his gay friend honestly thinks he may be gay or bi, doesn't mean he's right.

There are exactly TWO ways to know someone's sexual orrientation:
1. they tell you
2. you catch them having sex with someone

Even then, there are gray areas.

Synnen
Apr 28, 2010, 12:10 PM
The ONLY way you can know if someone is gay/bi is:

1. You catch them in bed with someone of the same sex
2. They tell you.

If you don't trust him or believe him when he says he isn't, then leave. Your relationship isn't going to get better because you get the answer you're looking for. And if you can't trust him, why the hell are you with him to begin with?

You're doing him a disservice. Just leave already, because you obviously don't believe him as much as you believe one of his friends.

Samemmack
Apr 28, 2010, 12:37 PM
I don't believe him because he would NEVER risk losing me. My son and I are his life. BUT in the past he has had some weird relationships with men. While his license was suspended he had a gay cab driver take him to and from work for free promising sexual favors later but never actually doing them. We were just starting and he was open with me on how he "used" gay men. But he swore that nothing ever happened with them.
Another time with another cab driver that he was using he answered the phone to him WHILE we were having sex and told him that we were having sex but promptly lost his erection. Since then he hasn't ever lost an erection with me.
He says that he hates gay men and that he loves to take what he can get from them promising things but never delivering on the promises. He TELLS me this!! Something I forgot to add is that man on man action is a kind of fetish of mine so he knew that I liked it so maybe that's why he was so open with me. But once we got serious and had a baby I want all that crap to go away.
He also "used" a lot of men when he was younger saying nothing ever happened. He does admit that once while drunk one of those guys started to give him oral but he came to and punched him in the face. What is going on with him? He "hates" these guys yet he puts himself into these situations.? So yeah, when I hear a rumor about gay stuff I'm kind of going to believe it.
What in the world could be going on with him? Is he bi and he hates himself for it or what?? He swears he has never done anything with guys. He did sleep with A LOT of girls in the past but nothing beyond just one night stands.

Samemmack
Apr 28, 2010, 12:47 PM
Oh I also forgot. I used to like gay porn. When I asked him to watch it with me once he didn't even get an erection from it!
I am his first real relationship.
Come on people HELP me out!

Cat1864
Apr 28, 2010, 12:50 PM
I think there is a key phrase in your post: in the past. You say that all of this is stuff he has told you about not what you have actually witnessed.

As I said before, based on what you have written, it sounds like he has made his choice and that is you and your child. The past is the past unless you have any evidence to the contrary and rumors are not evidence.

hheath541
Apr 28, 2010, 12:50 PM
OK, that puts a completely different spin on things.

It's not uncommon for someone, especially guys, to be extremely homophobic before they come out. They feel that by making fun of gays they're drawing attention away from themselves.

We can't tell you if he's actually bi, or gay. Only he knows that for sure.

I CAN tell you that his treatment of gay men is not good. The fact that he feels it is OK to lie to, use, and basically steal and cheat services from these men, says a lot about his personality. He has some deep-seated hatred for gay men. Rather or not any of that hatred is directed inward, I can't say.

Losing his erection after answering the phone makes sense. The moment was interrupted. What doesn't make sense, is why he would answer the phone in the first place. Most people would either ignore it or toss it across the room or something.

smoothy
Apr 28, 2010, 12:58 PM
Yeah he used some gay guys... like women have never used a guy before? Or a guy a woman?

That doesn't make it morally right, but it does happen all the time and most people have used someone else like that at at least one point or other top get what they wanted, knowing they had no intentions of following through with the romantic desires of another.

And it would be a rare person who was NEVER on the receiving end of that from someone THEY liked but didn't share the same feelings at some point.

hungtoronto
Apr 28, 2010, 01:08 PM
I don't believe him bc he would NEVER risk loosing me. My son and I are his life. BUT in the past he has had some weird relationships with men. While his liscense was suspended he had a gay cab driver take him to and from work for free promising sexual favors later but never actually doing them. We were just starting out and he was open with me on how he "used" gay men. But he swore that nothing ever happened with them.


He may did something with them, may be not. What if he told you he did a few of them in the past what would you think of him? Wouldn't your suspicion become worse, maybe it's another reason not to tell you the truth.

This guy can lie and manipulate. Potentially what could happen is, he fell like being with a woman is not his thing and leave that was what happened with my coworker.


I am not saying it will happen but it's a scenario to think about.

JoeCanada76
Apr 28, 2010, 01:14 PM
Whether he has did anything or not.

The very truth is that he chose to be with you, that simple. He is at home with you. With you as his wife and child.

Good husband and Good Father. What else can you ask for.

It sounds like a lot of things that happened or could have happened are from the PAST.

You said he spends all his extra time with the family. So I say even with everything you said, never mind the rumors.

It is possible that it is happening but as others said you will never know for sure unless you catch him in the act.

Synnen
Apr 28, 2010, 01:35 PM
Like I said in my other post, the bottom line is this: Do you trust him and believe what he says?

If yes, then work on communication in your relationship.

If no, you need to either go to counseling TOGETHER, or you might as well give up.

NO relationship survives a lack of trust.

Homegirl 50
Apr 28, 2010, 02:00 PM
Well I hope this guy is lying, but you knew this stuff about him before. Didn't it bother you that he used gay men? And you were all into the mixing it up before yoyrself.
He could be, but he has chosen you.

I hope he is straight and that his pathetic attitude towards gays have changed.

Samemmack
Apr 28, 2010, 03:13 PM
Well I hope this guy is lying, but you knew this stuff about him before. Didn't it bother you that he used gay men? And you were all into the mixing it up before yoyrself.
He could be, but he has chosen you.

I hope he is straight and that his pathetic attitude towards gays have changed.

You know, if he would be honest with me and include me in it- I would love to see him hook up with a guy. But he's SO weird about everything. I tell him, If you are bi that's cool- that turns me on. He says that's gross he would never be with a guy. But his past tells a different tale.
It was weird that he hid from me that his 2 friends were gay. Bc that is something we used to talk openly about. He has changed. Me not so much. He talked about them, just left that part out. Which makes me think he's hiding something.
I trust him on EVERY topic except this one.

On using the gay guys... I thought it was weird but I tried not to judge him.

Thanks for all the advice.

Cat1864
Apr 28, 2010, 04:34 PM
You know, if he would be honest with me and include me in it- I would love to see him hook up with a guy. But he's SO wierd about everything. I tell him, If you are bi that's cool- that turns me on. He says that's gross he would never be with a guy. But his past tells a different tale.


I am beginning to wonder if you are disappointed that he doesn't have a sexual interest in men. Were you, maybe, beginning to think you might get a fantasy fulfilled?

You say that he has changed. It sounds like he has matured. His current attitude may be a way to distance himself from a past that he doesn't find acceptable anymore.

If you love him and want to be with only him, you have to decide if you can accept that he has a past that apparently he doesn't want to be his present or his future. Do you accept him as he is now?

QLP
Apr 28, 2010, 04:35 PM
Now I'm wondering if maybe something might have happened in the past, like a bit of experimentation, which he came to regret - hence the subsequent homophobia. If you are so keen to see him hook up with another guy for your pleasure maybe he is denying the past to make you back off.

I confess I got a bit confused reading your thread. Between the fear of him cheating, the lack of trust, the worrying that he is attracted to men whether he acts on it or not, then the fact that you are aroused by the idea of it. So are you now saying it's OK for him to sleep with other men as long as you are included somehow? Is it possible that he doesn't know what you really want and is closing down on honest communication because of this?

Anyway whatever is going on in his head I agree with Synnen, it all comes down to working on the trust and communication between you.

Homegirl 50
Apr 28, 2010, 04:43 PM
I had to spread some rep but QLP I agree with you. I wondering the same thing.

Do you want him to be bi and share with you or do you want him to be straight and be faithful to you?
If he is with you and faithful, be happy.

Samemmack
Apr 28, 2010, 04:44 PM
Secrets and hiding is cheating and might be gay which means he doesn't want to let me in that part of his life. Including me means he loves me but might be into guys too which is not a problem for me. Hooking up (only)with me included= OK. Cheating on me and developing a relationship is what I am afraid of. I hate to be in the dark.
I don't want to be with anyone else.
I am selfish I know- I want him to like guys just for sex to be open with me about it. I don't want him sneaking behind my back developing a relationship with a man. Do I make any sense?

hungtoronto
Apr 28, 2010, 04:49 PM
I am torn up because if he's cheating on me I cannot be with him. But what if it's not true? Then I have the lingering freaking question in my head. What if he's just with me bc of our lifestyle is what his parents want? What if he's having homosexual relationships behind my back can he really love me? Or just the normalcy that the hetero relationship provides him.



You know, if he would be honest with me and include me in it- I would love to see him hook up with a guy.

Let me get this straight. It's OK if he screw some guy but can't have a relationship with them without your knowledge.

I wouldn't share my woman with anyone. You're having a risk of him running off with some dude if you allow him.

How come you're so nice to him? What is in it for you? Do you guy have an open relationship?

Cat1864
Apr 28, 2010, 04:50 PM
I dont want to be with anyone else.


From what you have said about his present, he feels the same way.

Can you live with that?

Samemmack
Apr 28, 2010, 04:59 PM
He is the best boyfriend. This one issue drives me nuts. We do not have an open relationship. Im talking about a one time thing. I am going to be happy if he just wants to be with me. I just got scared because someone said he had something going on at work and he didn't tell me about it. I can live with anything as long as you tell me. I cannot stand liars.

JoeCanada76
Apr 28, 2010, 05:47 PM
Whether he has did anything or not.

The very truth is that he chose to be with you, that simple. He is at home with you. With you as his wife and child.

Good husband and Good Father. What else can you ask for.

It sounds like a lot of things that happened or could have happened are from the PAST.

You said he spends all his extra time with the family. So I say even with everything you said, never mind the rumors.

It is possible that it is happening but as others said you will never know for sure unless you catch him in the act.

??

Kitkat22
Apr 28, 2010, 06:14 PM
Believe in him. Don't accuse him. If you ask him and he told you he wasn't don't make it a major deal. Trust!

Samemmack
Apr 29, 2010, 05:29 AM
Thanks! I obviously have trust issues. My mom says I was looking for problems. I am a little nuts because as I said he does spend all of his free time with me. Again, thanks for all the advice.

JoeCanada76
Apr 29, 2010, 07:45 AM
Your trust issues and you getting a little nuts could create more problems then anything else.

smoothy
Apr 29, 2010, 07:47 AM
Your trust issues and you getting a little nuts could create more problems then anything else.

Exactly... As a guy speaking... this would be a VERY good reason for me to walk away from any woman. In fact I have several times in the past.

Cat1864
Apr 29, 2010, 10:36 AM
Samemmack, please review the rules for using agree/disagree feature: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/forum-help/using-comments-feature-official-guidelines-24951.html

Disagrees should be used for incorrect facts NOT opinions.

Kitkat22
Apr 29, 2010, 11:13 AM
You need to stop being so impulsive. Believe me when I say I'm the worlds worst for acting before thinking. I always end up jumping to the wrong conclusion.

I don't believe your boyfriend is gay. I think you have that idea in your head and now you can't shake it.
Give the guy a break unless he proves otherwise! Please do as Cat said, read about the disagree/agree features. We try to give advice that is sound and our opinions may not be what you want to hear, but that's why we're here. I hope everything goes well and you find the answers you seek. Blessings

smoothy
Apr 29, 2010, 11:29 AM
Yes.. I'll third that about reading the rules for Giving Reddies... there was NOTHING factually inaccurate about what I said in post #35 at all.

I'm 48, a man, I've dumped women from more different countries over their paranoia than guys you have ever had an interest in before I was 27. Its clear you are very young.

And speaking as a guy... thats one of the most quick way to turn a guy against you. Only losers will put up with that sort of abuse for very long. Because there are plenty of women who would not do that.

A mature guy will not do that to a woman he really loves... and a woman who really loves a guy would not do it either. They MIGHT do it with someone they are just in lust over however, because they are a convenient booty call.

You want to hear advice from a guy... thats my advice to you.

Because mark my words... odds are one day YOU will be on the receiving end from a paranoid guy... then you will understand what I am saying.

If you do not trust someone for any reason at all, real or imagined... then they clearly are NOT " THE ONE ".

Kitkat22
Apr 29, 2010, 11:38 AM
Yes..I'll third that about reading the rules for Giving Reddies...there was NOTHING factually inaccurate about what I said in post #35 at all.

I'm 48, a man, I've dumped women from more different countries over their paranoia than guys you have ever had an interest in before I was 27. Its clear you are very young.

And speaking as a guy...thats one of the quickest way to turn a guy against you. Only losers will put up with that sort of abuse for very long. Because there are plenty of women who would not do that.

A mature guy will not do that to a woman he really loves...and a woman who really loves a guy would not do it either. They MIGHT do it with someone they are just in lust over however, because they are a convienient booty call.

You want to hear advice from a guy....thats my advice to you.

Because mark my words....odds are one day YOU will be on the recieving end from a paranoid guy...then you will understand what I am saying.

I do agree with Smoothy..

JoeCanada76
Apr 29, 2010, 12:30 PM
It is fact that paranoia and trust issues by you the original poster, could potentially push your husband away. Fact.

So you need to work on YOUR trust issues and your paranoia before he does decide enough is enough and walks out.

Worst thing in a relationship is to accuse your partner and being untrusting when in fact he has not done anything to lose your trust in the first place.

He spends all his extra time with you and the family. That speaks volumes.

Kitkat22
Apr 29, 2010, 05:55 PM
Hope you find a way to overcome this. Good Luck

Samemmack
Apr 29, 2010, 06:21 PM
You guys really think I am paranoid? Given everything I've said you wouldn't maybe think that the rumors could me true. I haven't attacked him about it.
I had no clue about the disagree feature. Sorry.
I am 28 and he is 22.
How do you work on trust issues when EVERY man in my life has been a cheater... my dad, my ex, all my friends, my friends men. Give me some insight please.

albear
Apr 29, 2010, 06:25 PM
Leap of faith, your either willing to trust him or your not

Homegirl 50
Apr 29, 2010, 06:37 PM
You guys really think I am paranoid? Given everything I've said you wouldn't maybe think that the rumors could me true. I haven't attacked him about it.
I had no clue about the disagree feature. Sorry.
I am 28 and he is 22.
How do you work on trust issues when EVERY man in my life has been a cheater....my dad, my ex, all my friends, my friends men. Give me some insight please.

Well that's your problem right there!
He is not your father your ex or your friend's man. He is a different man. You have trust issues that you need some help working through, or this man is going to walk as will every other man you have a relationship with.
It's like you keep them for a while and then you wait for signs of cheating and if they are not there, you go and look for them.

The trouble may very well be you. Think on it.

Kitkat22
Apr 29, 2010, 06:42 PM
It's terribly difficult to trust when you been hurt repeatedly. But realize this.. there are some wonderful men out there. Trusting is very hard to do when you have been hurt. You have to let go of it because you are putting all men in the category of the ones who hurt you.

I'm not judging but there are a lot of good men out there who are good honest men. Don't let something in your past dictate your future. You sound like a nice lady so wait and give that guy the benefit of the doubt. Hope everything works out for you. Blessings to you.

hungtoronto
Apr 29, 2010, 07:49 PM
How do you work on trust issues when EVERY man in my life has been a cheater....my dad, my ex, all my friends, my friends men. Give me some insight please.


Don't date cheater or Bi. Go with someone who didn't cheat or straight.

Samemmack
Apr 29, 2010, 07:52 PM
Don't date cheater or Bi. Go with someone who didn't cheat or straight.

He says he's not bi.

hheath541
Apr 29, 2010, 08:10 PM
Don't date cheater or Bi. Go with someone who didn't cheat or straight.

What's wrong with dating someone who's bi? Should they just never be in a relationship?

Cat1864
Apr 29, 2010, 08:12 PM
You guys really think I am paranoid? Given everything I've said you wouldn't maybe think that the rumors could me true. I havent attacked him about it.
I had no clue about the disagree feature. Sorry.
I am 28 and he is 22.
How do you work on trust issues when EVERY man in my life has been a cheater....my dad, my ex, all my friends, my friends men. Give me some insight please.

I grew up thinking everybody-male and female-cheated. I trusted very few people until I met someone who I fell in love with and learned to trust by accepting that his past wasn't his future. I learned to trust my judgment in who I wanted to be with. I learned to communicate with him about how I felt and my concerns. I learned to listen and trust him when he said, 'I love you'. It took time and changing MY way of looking at the world.

Understand that YOU have to be able to trust your own feelings, your own judgment, and him. If you can't find that trust inside yourself, then you will always find a way to mistrust your partner no matter who he is or how straight he is.

hungtoronto
Apr 29, 2010, 08:19 PM
He says he's not bi.


It's human nature not to trust someone if he did something wrong in the past. For instance, would you give someone a job if he was stealing in the past. Probably not.

If you have that problem then date someone with a clean record.

hungtoronto
Apr 29, 2010, 08:26 PM
what's wrong with dating someone who's bi? should they just never be in a relationship?

Nothing is wrong with that. I am just saying this in her case. If she has trust issue with cheater, bi, gay then she should just go for someone with a clean record, it eliminates some variables.

JoeCanada76
Apr 29, 2010, 08:39 PM
It is fact that paranoia and trust issues by you the original poster, could potentially push your husband away. Fact.

So you need to work on YOUR trust issues and your paranoia before he does decide enough is enough and walks out.

Worst thing in a relationship is to accuse your partner and being untrusting when in fact he has not done anything to lose your trust in the first place.

He spends all his extra time with you and the family. That speaks volumes.

Cat1864
Apr 29, 2010, 08:48 PM
Nothing is wrong with that. I am just saying this in her case. If she has trust issue with cheater, bi, gay then she should just go for someone with a clean record, it eliminates some variables.

Did you read what I wrote? It doesn't matter what his record is if she can't find it in herself to trust her own judgment.

QLP
Apr 30, 2010, 01:29 AM
Here's a suggestion to try:

Consider this. Do you think, based on any real serious evidence, that your partner cheated on you yesterday?
Don't consider the day before that, last week, last year, or the past, just that one day.
Now hopefully you can answer no to to that.
Well, yesterday you didn't trust him and were proved wrong.

Ok, can you try and trust him today. Not tomorrow, next week or next year, just today.
If you can, they try and build on it a day at a time.
If you can't then ask yourself at the end of the day if your lack of trust was justified. Do you have any real evidence he cheated today?

Try working on it a day at a time for a while, forgetting the past and not listening to any fears you might have for the future. Just see if you can learn to trust him in the present first.

Hope this helps as a starting point.

Samemmack
Apr 30, 2010, 04:59 AM
Great advice!
QLP- day by day he's good- calls or texts regularly while at work. Comes home straight from work. Good advice I just deal with what he presents me day by day:)

Cat1864
Apr 30, 2010, 05:36 AM
Great advice!
QLP- day by day he's good- calls or texts regularly while at work. Comes home straight from work. Good advice I just deal with what he presents me day by day:)

One word of caution, don't make him solely responsible for you trusting him. If he begins to feel that he has to keep 'proving' himself faithful, he could get tired of it. Think about how you would feel if you felt like you had to make him trust you. Dealing with another person's insecurities can be draining and make a relationship even harder to work on because there is no energy left.

If for some reason he doesn't text or call, don't take that as 'evidence' against him. Remind yourself that things happen and you don't have to have constant reassurance from him to be secure in the knowledge that he will be there for you.

Do you have friends that you ever have an evening out with? It might help you build trust in the relationship if you aren't completely dependent on him for your emotional support.

Samemmack
Apr 30, 2010, 06:02 AM
Do you have friends that you ever have an evening out with? It might help you build trust in the relationship if you aren't completely dependent on him for your emotional support.

We both work a lot. And HE gets mad if we don't spend all our off time together. We do live together but I work from 7am- 6pm and He works from 11am-8pm. So nights are very lazy so he expects weekends for us to bond and be together. I mean I go to my friend's rarely and he gets upset when I do saying that I took away from "important us time". He is very needy. He never hangs out with friends although I encourage it because then I could go to my stuff without guilt. On Saturdays he has to work from 12-7pm and gets so upset if I do anything with our son without him in the morning. His lack of trust fuels my lack of trust. I always felt so connected to him because we are soooooo alike. My only problem that I have had with him is the gay rumors.

QLP
Apr 30, 2010, 06:14 AM
So you both have trust problems and neither of you get to spend any time with other people.

I'm worried that this relationship is in danger of becoming one of co-dependency, if it isn't already to a degree.

Have you considered some counselling,to try and really get this nailed?

Samemmack
Apr 30, 2010, 06:42 AM
What are signs of a codependent relationship?

CravenMorhead
Apr 30, 2010, 07:33 AM
You guys really think I am paranoid? Given everything I've said you wouldn't maybe think that the rumors could me true. I havent attacked him about it.

Good on you for not attacking him. Yes you're paranoid. It is impossible to say whether the rumours are true but that is the nature of rumours. Given the information that you've given, I don't believe that the rumours are true. Take that for what it is worth.


I am 28 and he is 22.
How do you work on trust issues when EVERY man in my life has been a cheater....my dad, my ex, all my friends, my friends men. Give me some insight please.

You're growing pessimistic and cynical. It doesn't follow that he is a cheater because all men previously have been. Your getting causation confused with coincidence.

The important thing to realize is that these are YOUR issues, not his. Don't project this on him. It'll doom the relationship.

As for the trust issue, if is for yourself to figure out. Talking to a therapist might help a lot. Talking to your friends and finding the men that haven't cheated might work as well.

Just for the record. I am a man and I have never cheated in my life. None of my close family nor close friends have cheated that I know of. I have known people who cheated or have been cheated on. The point is that most men, no sweeping generalization here, don't cheat.

QLP
Apr 30, 2010, 02:41 PM
What are signs of a codependent relationship?

Well exact lists of codependent behaviour vary somewhat according to the context it is being used in. Some psychologists believe almost all relationships include an element of codependency, it rather depends on the school of thought.

However the aspects I am thinking of are:
An unhealthy emotional dependence, where your partner is responsible for your happiness rather than yourself. Compromising your own values to avoid another person's anger or rejection. Repeating patterns that cause you pain. Trying to control your partner's behaviour. Complying with your partner's wishes when you don't want to. Loss of boundaries.

I'm thinking about how you say he gets upset when you want to visit friends or do something with your son without him. Your statement that his lack of trust fuels yours.

I'm not suggesting that your relationship has every red-flag of a full-blown codependent situation but that there are some aspects that could do with nipping in the bud and getting on top of. Your trust issues and your difficulties in honest communication are obviously making you unhappy.

Edited for spellilngs - sorry was typsy in charge of a keyboard after a family night out when I first typed this.

Samemmack
Apr 30, 2010, 05:25 PM
Well exact lists of codepend behaviour vary somewhat according to the context it is being used in. Some psychologists beleive almost all relationships include an element of codependency, it rather depends on the school of thought.

However the aspects I am thinking of are:
An unhealthy emotional dependence, where your partner is responsible for your happiness rather than yourself. Compromising you own values to avoid another person's anger or rejection. Repeating patterns that cause you pain. Trying to control your partner's behaviour. Complying with your parner's wishes when you don't want to. Loss of boundaries.

I'm thinking about how you say he gets upset when you want to visit friends or do something with your son without him. Your statement that his lack of trust fuels yours.

I'm not suggesting that your relationship has every red-flag of a full-blown codependent situation but that there are some aspects that could do with nipping in the bud and getting on top of. Your trust issues and your difficulties in honest communication are obviously making you unhappy.

We do have a codependent relationship it looks like. That stinks!