There are a few aspects of my life that really suck right now. It's been that way for a long time and there isn't anything I can do about it except wait for conditions to change. There are a few positive areas but it's getting harder and harder to make the good outweigh the bad in my mind. I find myself alternating between extreme anger and depression almost all the time now. I can't remember the last time I laughed.

Other than drinking or taking drugs, does anyone have any suggestions?

Are you a Religious? If so, then maybe you could get more involved in your spiritual life.

Possibly do some volunteer work for people who are less fortunate than you are.

Life is tough sometimes. But never be deterred from your goals, and always try to see some light at the end of the tunnel.

Go to a comedy club. You should try to laugh at least 5 good times a day.

How about your diet? Eating good and exercising always helps me to feel better.

No matter what is happening in your life at any given moment, you should always remember that things could always be worse. Yes, worse.

One of my legs hurts from surgery. But I should feel lucky that I have legs at all.

Like the old saying " I stopped complaining about having no shoes when I met a man who had no feet." Or something like that.

I hope you get through this rough spot.

May God bless you.

Are you a Religious? If so, then maybe you could get more involved in your spiritual life.

Possibly do some volunteer work for people who are less fortunate than you are.

Life is tough sometimes. But never be deterred from your goals, and always try to see some light at the end of the tunnel.

Go to a comedy club. You should try to laugh at least 5 good times a day.

How about your diet? Eating good and exercising always helps me to feel better.

No matter what is happening in your life at any given moment, you should always remember that things could always be worse. Yes, worse.

One of my legs hurts from surgery. But I should feel lucky that I have legs at all.

Like the old saying " I stopped complaining about having no shoes when I met a man who had no feet." Or something like that.

I hope you get through this rough spot.

May God bless you.

Thank you for your thoughts. Increased religious involvement is not an option or a desire at the moment. I've done some volunteer work but conditions have now reached the point where the only type of volunteer work I can do has to be done out of my home. That narrows the possibilities quite a bit.

I wish I could go to a comedy club. But conditions also prevent that at the moment.

Eating and exercising are OK but I've lost quite a bit of my appetite.

I know that things could definitely be worse. And I keep trying to prepare myself for them to get worse. So far I haven't been disappointed in that area. It seems like every time I get slammed in the head with a 2x4 and pick myself up, there's another 2x4 on the way.

I keep looking for that light at the end of the tunnel but it's been a couple of years since I've seen it and I think the bulb is about to burn out.

There are a few aspects of my life that really suck right now. It's been that way for a long time and there isn't anything I can do about it except wait for conditions to change. There are a few positive areas but it's getting harder and harder to make the good outweigh the bad in my mind. I find myself alternating between extreme anger and depression almost all the time now. I can't remember the last time I laughed.

Other than drinking or taking drugs, does anyone have any suggestions?

Ok,your in a slump.

Drinking would only add to the slump.

Drugs(street) would also add to the slump.

Writing the specifics down, perhaps in here,perhaps just on paper can open your possibilities to look at the 'problem' with a fresh perspective.

Anger and depression have always gone hand in hand, one turned inward becomes the other.

Constantly looking for the other shoe to drop, well,sometimes we invent ways for that to happen.Once in that frame of mind(I,anyway),will stay in a slump for months, many months:(

Let's face it,life isn't fair.We're dealt blows all the time.How we react to them is what makes us who we are.

Perhaps you can share some of what it is that has you in this funk and we can discuss things?

I'd like that,
Ken

Thanks, Ken. You're right. Major slump.

The biggest part of the problem is economics. There's been a slight improvement in that area recently but it's also been shown to me that the improvement will be only slight for a very long time to come.

There were some health issues that are also showing signs of improving but that will take a long time as well.

I've been dealing with these issues for over 2 years now. I've been waiting and waiting for conditions to change and now that they're finally changing I'm seeing that the changes won't be all that much better than the way things were. That it'll take even longer.

I'm tired of dealing, you know? I've been the one being upbeat and trying to keep everyone else from being depressed. That doesn't seem to be working anymore.

Well, you could do some pro bono work for a friend! LOL just kidding, but it would be nice.

I've been in your slump Lisa, more times than I care to remember.

The only thing that helped me was to take a medication. It helped me think clearer and solve problems without getting frustrated or upset. Once I was over that slump, the medication was no longer needed.

Just food for thought.

Hi Lisa:

I've always been regenerated by a new business proposal. Making money is good therapy, and PLANNING to make money is even better therapy. New Jersey just passed a medical marijuana law. I'd set up a dispensary. You'll make a fortune, and you'll help people too.

excon

Well, you could do some pro bono work for a friend! LOL just kidding, but it would be nice.

I've been in your slump Lisa, more times than I care to remember.

The only thing that helped me was to take a medication. It helped me think clearer and solve problems without getting frustrated or upset. Once I was over that slump, the medication was no longer needed.

Just food for thought.

Thanks, J. A lot of people have suggested medication but I'm really afraid to go that route. And getting medication would require a script. That would mean going to a doctor and then getting the script filled. That's not an option at the moment. No insurance.

I'm probably better off without the meds. I've got a very addictive personality.

Hi Lisa:

I've always been regenerated by a new business proposal. Making money is good therapy, and PLANNING to make money is even better therapy. New Jersey just passed a medical marijuana law. I'd set up a dispensary. You'll make a fortune, and you'll help people too.

excon

Ex, you don't know how tempting that idea is. But I'm afraid I'd start using my product and things would be even worse than they are now. :)

I've got a very addictive personality.

I could possibly help with that. There is a med that is only $4 a month that is non-addictive with virtually little to no side effects. I'd just have to work on finding a doc for you.

When there is a condition upon feeling good then feeling good will come and go, come and go. It cannot be constant.

Try this. Whenever you drink (Forget about Drugs unless you have to!) observe and feel (don't think) your inner self at that moment. Why is it you feel good when alcohol is in the system?

Practice meditation. It does amazing things for your mind, body and spirit as a whole.

It takes time and commitment but it will make a huge difference in your life.

When there is a condition upon feeling good then feeling good will come and go, come and go. It cannot be constant.

Try this. whenever you drink (Forget about Drugs unless you have to!) observe and feel (don't think) your inner self at that moment. Why is it you feel good when alcohol is in the system?

I don't really drink. Maybe once every year or two. But IIRC the last time I drank I felt good because I just didn't care.

I know that feeling good isn't constant. But feeling bad shouldn't be constant either.

Practice meditation. It does amazing things for your mind, body and spirit as a whole.

It takes time and commitment but it will make a huge difference in your life.

Thanks, Joe. I may look into giving that a try. If I can stop thinking long enough. :)

Just have to reprogram the way you think. Training and discipline of meditation will teach you well. There are lots of books and people even willing to help out others with meditations. There are so many different ways. There is no one right way and sometimes you will have to try it to see if it works with you. Even starting small every day and working your way up to more time spent in mediation will make such a difference. Does not matter how busy your mind is with thoughts. It is what you do with your thoughts that matters most.

Living every moment on its on.

I don't really drink. Maybe once every year or two. But IIRC the last time I drank I felt good because I just didn't care.

I know that feeling good isn't constant. But feeling bad shouldn't be constant either.

I won't be the best to explain and provide understanding to this teaching, but look into these spiritual teachers which I have found to be a few of the best.

Mooji
Eckhart tolle.

Now before you say something about spirituality being a case of mumbo jumbo that does not fit in our modern times, please take the time to look into these teachings. They are very practical for modern times and they speak of modern times.

I'm obviously not sure whether you know these people but I have found that many do but don't follow through because their minds cannot accept the teachings and does not align with it. But let me tell you this, the reason behind all pain and suffering, feeling bad constantly is because of the mind alone. Some won't agree with me but that's understandable because you'd have to discover yourself.

These teachers all point to one truth with all their concepts. The truth is you are beyond your mind. THe mind isn't who you are and once you begin to live the truth, you'll find that feeling good is not dependent on our world but in fact the very nature that you are.

Please don't reject this, because the tendency of the mind is to reject anything it does not understand.

As joe says, meditation is good because it is living the truth. But the point behind the teaching is to discover whether there is a mediator at all. And once discovered life becomes mediation and you're daily acitivities still continue in front of the mediation itself.

PS. When you're drunk, you get a glimpse of what living the truth provides, but not in terms of how the mind sees it. :)

HTH

I won't be the best to explain and provide understanding to this teaching, but look into these spiritual teachers which I have found to be a few of the best.

Mooji
Eckhart tolle.

Now before you say something about spirituality being a case of mumbo jumbo that does not fit in our modern times, please take the time to look into these teachings. They are very practical for modern times and they speak of modern times.

I'm obviously not sure whether you know these people but I have found that many do but don't follow through because their minds cannot accept the teachings and does not align with it. But let me tell you this, the reason behind all pain and suffering, feeling bad constantly is because of the mind alone. Some won't agree with me but that's understandable because you'd have to discover yourself.

These teachers all point to one truth with all their concepts. The truth is you are beyond your mind. THe mind isn't who you are and once you begin to live the truth, you'll find that feeling good is not dependent on our world but in fact the very nature that you are.

Please don't reject this, because the tendency of the mind is to reject anything it does not understand.

As joe says, meditation is good because it is living the truth. But the point behind the teaching is to discover whether there is a mediator at all. And once discovered life becomes mediation and you're daily acitivities still continue in front of the mediation itself.

PS. When you're drunk, you get a glimpse of what living the truth provides, but not in terms of how the mind sees it. :)

HTH

Thank you. I've read Eckhart Tolle before. Maybe I'll try again.

Thank you. I've read Eckhart Tolle before. Maybe I'll try again.

Also look into "Mooji", "Nisargadatta Maharaj" & a lady by the name "Jac O'Keefe".

Mooji and Jac O'keefe have plenty of free YouTube videos. Check them out.

Similar to Eckhart tolle's teachings. Stuff that anyone can relate to, which is easier to understand.

Understand this though. All these teachers are pointing you to truth. To live the truth and NOT rely on understanding the truth. So in a way, the mind will simply try finding satisfaction to its own existence being its problem.

I'm not sure if this is too premature to tell you, but the mind has to disappear. Don't take my word for it. Look into these teachers and Discover it yourself.

:)

Hi Lisa.

I'm so sorry you're in this slump, I'm going through the same thing right now, health problems, money problems, it seems that every time you dig yourself out of the hole a bit, someone comes along and pushes you back in.

It's hard to stay positive, it's hard to get out of the slump, but you can do it.

The first thing I'd recommend is the same think J9 stated, medication. I've been on antidepressants since 2001, celexa, which I believe is what J9 is talking about because it's largely non addictive and apparently not that expensive in the states. Sadly I don't understand the medical programs in the states so please forgive my ignorance on the subject, but is there some type of free clinic you can go to?

The medications will help, but the rest is up to you. I think that you took a big step here today by posting about this. The people on this site are so great, I couldn't have gotten through the last few months without them. Actually, truth told, they've pulled me out of a slump more times then they even know.

So come here, post about what's bothering you. Sometimes just talking about things, not holding them in, can help tremendously. Know that we're all here for you, even if you just need to vent.

So go ahead, the sky's the limit, let's try to get through this together. Okay? :)

Now to make you smile.

A man was walking along a Hawaiian beach when he kicked a bottle poking up through the sand. Opening it, he was astonished to see a cloud of smoke and a genie smiling at him.

"For your kindness," the genie said, "I will grant you one wish!" The man paused, and replied, "I have always wanted a road from Hawaii to California."

The genie grimaced, thought for a few minutes and said, "Listen, I'm sorry, but I can't do that! Think of all the pilings needed to hold up the highway and how long they'd have to be to reach the bottom of the ocean. Think of all the pavement. That's too much to ask."

"OK," the man said, not wanting to be unreasonable. "I consider myself a pretty worldly man but I've never been able to really understand women. Make me understand them, what makes them laugh and cry, why are they temperamental, why are they so difficult to get along with, what do they really want? Basically, teach me to understand what makes them tick!"

The genie paused, and then sighed, "Did you want two lanes or four?"
:p

Please don't take this wrong Okay? I know what you said about religion and I don't want to ever not do what my heart tells me too.

Please ask God to help you through this time. He is always there and he will bring you comfort.

I just had to post this.. I don't know why.. but I do know this he has brought me through so many
Storms in my life.

You may not want to do this, but I will remember you in my prayers... Blessings

Thank you, Ms. A. I've heard that joke before but it still makes me smile. :)

The meds are something I would really prefer to avoid only because I'm afraid of becoming emotionally addicted, if not physically addicted. I've made it over 2 years so far without any. I'm going to keep trying.


The medications will help, but the rest is up to you. I think that you took a big step here today by posting about this. The people on this site are so great, I couldn't have gotten through the last few months without them. Actually, truth told, they've pulled me out of a slump more times then they even know.

So come here, post about what's bothering you. Sometimes just talking about things, not holding them in, can help tremendously. Know that we're all here for you, even if you just need to vent.

So go ahead, the sky's the limit, let's try to get through this together. Okay? :)


Know what? Posting about it on here really did help. The caring and kindness of people here in "public", and in private messages, has been astounding. I wouldn't say that I'm feeling good, but I'm certainly feeling a lot better since I first posted. Now I may have to re-think my current policy of hating the whole world. :) In the past I hadn't really paid a lot of attention to other areas of this site besides the legal areas. That's going to change now.

Thank you.

Please don't take this wrong Okay? I know what you said about religion and I don't want to ever not do what my heart tells me too.

Please ask God to help you through this time. He is always there and he will bring you comfort.

I just had to post this..I don't know why..but I do know this he has brought me through so many
storms in my life.

You may not want to do this, but I will remember you in my prayers...Blessings

Thank you, Kitkat. I really do appreciate it.

I should have been a little bit clearer in my comment before. I believe in God and asking God for help. I just have no use for organized religion. :)

Thank you, Kitkat. I really do appreciate it.

I should have been a little bit clearer in my comment before. I believe in God and asking God for help. I just have no use for organized religion. :)




God will help.. wait and see... I think a lot of people feel that way about
Organized religion. I'm glad you believe in God.. He'll answer your prayers and I'm going to pray for you everyday... He's still in control. Hugs and blessings:)

Lisa, I'm infamous for my chit chat threads. Come join us. Anyone is welcome, it's a place to let loose, shoot the poo, chat about anything and everything. Here's the link;

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/lounge/altys-chit-chat-thread-462832.html

The people that come here, old members, new members, doesn't matter, are the people that keep me coming back. I love answering questions here, but these people have all become my friends in a very real way, even though we've never met.

So join us. We welcome anyone, just check it out, it may bring a smile to your face. I know it keeps me giggling. :)

I do understand your desire to do this without medication. I felt the same way. I thought that going on anti-depressants meant that there was something wrong with me. When I talked to my doctor about it he just looked at me, said "You mother has cancer, your father isn't doing well, you have a 2 year old child and a lot on your plate. There is no shame in getting some help to deal with all of this".

I decided to take his advice and started taking the meds. A few months later my dad's apparent depression over my mothers diagnosis turned out to be more. He too had cancer. He died less then 2 weeks after his diagnosis. It was the hardest thing I'd ever faced. I can only imagine how much worse it would have been without the meds. Then, 6 1/2 months later my mother lost her battle. All before my little boy was 3 years old.

The pills aren't a crutch, they just help you through. Yes, I'm still on them, I have an imbalance and will likely be on them for my entire life. For you it would just be temporary, to help you get over this hump.

There's no shame in getting help, no matter what that help will be. With or without pills you'll get there, it would just be easier for you with meds. That's my opinion anyway. :)

Now join us in the chat area, come one, come all. Be forewarned, I'm a bit sarcastic and I love to have fun. If you can handle that, you'll have a blast, I promise. :)

Lisa, I'm infamous for my chit chat threads. Come join us. Anyone is welcome, it's a place to let loose, shoot the poo, chat about anything and everything. Here's the link;

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/lounge/altys-chit-chat-thread-462832.html
You mean the threads that have 400-500 posts in them? I've seen them. :)

I do understand your desire to do this without medication. I felt the same way. I thought that going on anti-depressants meant that there was something wrong with me. When I talked to my doctor about it he just looked at me, said "You mother has cancer, your father isn't doing well, you have a 2 year old child and a lot on your plate. There is no shame in getting some help to deal with all of this".

I decided to take his advice and started taking the meds. A few months later my dad's apparent depression over my mothers diagnosis turned out to be more. He too had cancer. He died less then 2 weeks after his diagnosis. It was the hardest thing I'd ever faced. I can only imagine how much worse it would have been without the meds. Then, 6 1/2 months later my mother lost her battle. All before my little boy was 3 years old.
I'm very sorry for your losses. My father died of cancer 15 years ago. My mother just went through a about 6 months ago but things are looking better now. My sister went through her about 9 years ago and so far she's still clean. I'm waiting for mine to get here. :/


The pills aren't a crutch, they just help you through. Yes, I'm still on them, I have an imbalance and will likely be on them for my entire life. For you it would just be temporary, to help you get over this hump.

There's no shame in getting help, no matter what that help will be. With or without pills you'll get there, it would just be easier for you with meds. That's my opinion anyway. :)
Thank you. I appreciate hearing it.


Now join us in the chat area, come one, come all. Be forewarned, I'm a bit sarcastic and I love to have fun. If you can handle that, you'll have a blast, I promise. :)

I may do that. :)

You mean the threads that have 400-500 posts in them? I've seen them. :)

I'm very sorry for your losses. My father died of cancer 15 years ago. My mother just went through a bout 6 months ago but things are looking better now. My sister went through her bout 9 years ago and so far she's still clean. I'm waiting for mine to get here. :/


Thank you. I appreciate hearing it.



I may do that. :)


They are fun... you'll laugh... a lot... Alty is right you should pop in.:)

I may do that. :)Hello Lisa:

Or, you could jump on a plane and meet me in Vegas.;)

excon

Hello Lisa:

Or, you could jump on a plane and meet me in Vegas.;)

excon

Oh boy!!

Um... can you send me a plane ticket? :)

They are fun...you'll laugh...a lot.....Alty is right you should pop in.:)

Maybe soon, Kitkat. But right now I want to see if I can find a way to make Excon's suggestion work. :)