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dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 04:09 PM
I have a 5-6 week old chihuahua/jack russell terrior mix puppy who just finished 3erd day of dewormer. But now since last night she has been having a hard time standing up.. almost like she is to weak to stand But is fine everywhere else she is eating and drinking and even playing with us but not standing or walking around very well. I do know that one of the other pups had both his legs broke after all the pups being mulled by a larger dog (which is how we got her) could this problem be a side effect from the dewormer or because she was infested so badly and she learned how to walk with that belly and now that its smaller she is having problems.. please help.. I don't have a lot of money for the vet BUT will if it means her be better we have had er a week now and totally in love with her

Sariss
Apr 11, 2010, 04:13 PM
WHY do you have a puppy if you don't have the money for a vet?
Dewormers from department stores are DANGEROUS, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's what's causing the problems.

Take your dog to the vet.

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 04:18 PM
I got the dewormer from the vet! Not the depatment store! And I plan to take her to vet tomorrow for this but was trying to get an idea from others!

Sariss
Apr 11, 2010, 04:19 PM
i got the dewormer from the vet!! not the depatment store!! and i plan to take her to vet tomorrow for this but was trying to get an idea from others!

What is the brand name of the dewormer?

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 04:22 PM
Panacur it's a oral med.. she was to take it for 3 days then return to vet in 3 weeks for more.

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 04:23 PM
She is a very small dog..

Aurora_Bell
Apr 11, 2010, 04:31 PM
I have heard of that brand, it's for puppies and under weight dogs right?

I would call your vet and ask about possible side effects. I have never heard of a reaction like that before, but anything could be possible, including an allergic reaction to the preservatives used in the de wormer.

I don't have many ideas except call your vet and tell them what is happening, better off safe than sorry right?

Sariss
Apr 11, 2010, 04:32 PM
Some dogs do not take Fenbendazole (Panacur) well. Why was the puppy put on this? We usually only use it really for things like giardia. For small pups we're more apt to use Strongid.

What is the puppy eating?

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 04:39 PM
I guess she had all 3 types of worms and quite badly at that.. I have her drinking the puppy formula mixed with water and I have her on a mixutre of special blend (I think that's the name of it I bought it at pet store) soft and hard (softened) puppy food.

Lucky098
Apr 11, 2010, 04:46 PM
Ewww "Special blend" puppy food??

First of all... Get her on a good puppy food. 5 week old puppies can eat solid food just fine.

If your dog is having problems walking, it could be neurological thing from the attack. Puppies are tough, but not that tough!

I have never really heard of Panacur giving such bad side effects, but I'm sure its possible.

You need to talk to your vet. Sometimes vets will talk to you over the phone while the symptoms are happening. A lot of times the symptoms will disappear before you get the dog to the vet. But you really do need to get to the vet.

These problems could literally be anything. Its too hard to diagnose or even guess from a small post on the net.

Why do you own a 5-6 week old pup? It should be with its mom! I applaud you if it's a rescue!

Aurora_Bell
Apr 11, 2010, 04:48 PM
How do you know about the puppy chow? I just read the OP 3 times, but, am I missing something?

Aurora_Bell
Apr 11, 2010, 04:49 PM
Oops never mind, saw the dog food brand.

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 04:50 PM
The mom abandoned the pups and there was a larger dog that attacked the pups I do know 2 were killed one had its legs broke and then there was jezzibell (our pup) we got er from someone else who took her from that home all in the same day. She was a easter gift for our son

Lucky098
Apr 11, 2010, 04:52 PM
So if you've only had her about a week, these could be side effects from the attack. It could be internal. You really do need to get her to a doctor :(

Lucky098
Apr 11, 2010, 04:53 PM
Worms don't effect dogs to the extent that you think they do.. Besides the hunger leveling out, dogs don't too much notice having worms vs not having worms...

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 05:08 PM
I plan to take her tomorrow I was just hoping someone could give me a idea so that I don't worry so much nor my son. He was walking fine still wobbly but fine just the same before this medicine... thankfully her eating drinking pooping and peeing are fine as well as breathing which is better since meds plus she is alert and playful it's the walking and standing that worries the heck out of me!!

Aurora_Bell
Apr 11, 2010, 05:12 PM
Make sure to keep us posted on the outcome! All the best and good luck!

Sariss
Apr 11, 2010, 05:14 PM
Worms dont effect dogs to the extent that you think they do.. Besides the hunger leveling out, dogs dont too much notice having worms vs not having worms...

That's not entirely true. Heavy burdens of worms have been known to kill puppies and make adults seriously ill and anemic (depending on type). Loaded with 3 types is kind of scary.

Aurora_Bell
Apr 11, 2010, 05:23 PM
Yes Max was loaded when we first got him, he started eating rocks. Along with that he was dangerously under weight, he was not a happy puppy at all.


What happened to spell check?

Lucky098
Apr 11, 2010, 05:24 PM
That's not entirely true. Heavy burdens of worms have been known to kill puppies and make adults seriously ill and anemic (depending on type). Loaded with 3 types is kind of scary.

Noooo lol.. Healthwise YES.. there is a difference...

The OP thought the puppy was adjusting to a smaller belly not full of worms. I don't really think dogs notice that part.

That's all I meant... I'm well aware that worms are no good.. Especially a belly full of them!

Sariss
Apr 11, 2010, 05:25 PM
Noooo lol.. Healthwise YES.. there is a difference...

The OP thought the puppy was adjusting to a smaller belly not full of worms. I dont really think dogs notice that part.

Thats all I ment... I'm well aware that worms are no good.. Especially a belly full of them!


Ok haha! I FIGURED it was a misunderstanding. :P

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 06:36 PM
I deffently plan to let everyone know and I truly appreciate all the information and ideas.. im open to more if people offer it by the way.. jezzibell has truly became a part of our amily in such a short time!

Aurora_Bell
Apr 11, 2010, 06:40 PM
Any pics?

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 06:48 PM
I've taken loads of them but how do I post them on here?

Aurora_Bell
Apr 11, 2010, 06:53 PM
Click on go advanced, and then click on the paper clip icon, and than another box pops open where you can upload the pics. Kind of like Facebook.

Emily94
Apr 11, 2010, 07:01 PM
Swimmer Puppy Description (http://www.swimmerpuppy.com/description.html)
http://www.suite101.com/blog/dmsvn/neurological_disorders_in_dogs_can_be_confusing
--Did some research :)


Also it could be an ear infection,
Just giving some suggestions that you could talk to the vet about.

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 07:04 PM
Jezzibell and zak pics

Aurora_Bell
Apr 11, 2010, 07:06 PM
Ih yes that belly does look like it's got some worms in it :(

Emily suggested some good points, ear infection. Ear mites?

She is SO cute! Interesting name choice, any particular reason Jezzibell?

Emily94
Apr 11, 2010, 07:15 PM
That is the smallest thing I have ever seen! I want it :)

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 07:24 PM
That's just the name my son came up with lol and it just fit er so well

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 07:26 PM
No way emily! Lol.. my son husband and I are totally in love with her after only a week.. she has the swwetest demeanor I've ever seen in a dog!

Aurora_Bell
Apr 11, 2010, 07:28 PM
Make sure to get her into some sort of puppy socialization classes, and a manners class wouldn't hurt either. Dogs that leave the pack too early, are more prone to aggression issues.

twinkie15
Apr 11, 2010, 07:29 PM
i have a 5-6 wk old chihuahua/jack russell terrior mix puppy who just finished 3erd day of dewormer. But now since last night she has been having a hard time standing up..almost like she is to weak to stand But is fine everywhere else she is eating and drinking and even playing with us but not standing or walking around very well. i do know that one of the other pups had both his legs broke after all the pups being mulled by a larger dog (which is how we got her) could this problem be a side effect from the dewormer or because she was infested so badly and she learned how to walk with that belly and now that its smaller she is having problems..please help..i dont have alot of money for the vet BUT will if it means her be better we have had er a wk now and totaly in love with herfirst of all I don't know why you have her if you have no money? I would take her to the vet and get her checked out and make sure she is all right and give her as much care as possible

Emily94
Apr 11, 2010, 07:33 PM
She said "i dont have alot of money for the vet BUT will if it means her be better"
She did not say she had NO money, she was just saying that she didn't want to spend it unless she had to.

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 07:33 PM
Couldn't help but post this one too

Aurora_Bell
Apr 11, 2010, 07:34 PM
Hi twinkie, she didn't say she didn't have ANY money, she said she didn't have a lot. But would take the pup to the vet if need be. And she has stated that she will be taking the pup to the vet, but wanted to get some ideas of what it could be.

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 07:36 PM
Thanks emily that's exactly what I meant! I would spend ever single penny I had if I HAVE to

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 07:38 PM
Thanks aurora!

Emily94
Apr 11, 2010, 07:42 PM
Hi twinkie, she didn't say she didn't have ANY money, she said she didn't have a lot. But would take the pup to the vet if need be. And she has stated that she will be taking the pup to the vet, but wanted to get some ideas of what it could be.

Don't we just think alike!

Emily94
Apr 11, 2010, 07:42 PM
no way emily!! lol..my son husband and i are totaly in love with her after only a wk..she has the swwetest demenor ive ever seen in a dog!

Um nah, I'm still taking her. Its okay you can visit on weekends :)

Emily94
Apr 11, 2010, 07:44 PM
A dog with an ear infection is uncomfortable; his ear canals are sensitive. He shakes his head trying to get the debris and fluid out, and scratches his ears. The ears often become red and inflamed and develop an offensive odor. A black or yellowish discharge commonly occurs. Ear mites can cause several of these symptoms, including a black discharge, scratching, and head shaking. Ear mite infections generally occur most commonly in puppies. Ear mites in adult dogs occur most frequently after a puppy carrying mites is introduced into the household. Sometimes ear mites will create an environment within the ear canal which leads to a secondary infection with bacteria and yeast (fungus). By the time the dog is presented to the veterinarian, the mites may be gone, but a significant ear infection remains.


-By chance does your puppy have these symptoms as well?

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 07:46 PM
Lol... id have a really sad son and husband on my hands lol

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 07:48 PM
Nope none of those emily

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 07:58 PM
She nibblin my chin lol

Emily94
Apr 11, 2010, 08:04 PM
Hmm,
Is it her back legs or her front?

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 08:12 PM
Her back!

Emily94
Apr 11, 2010, 08:21 PM
It could be Hip dysplasia but it do not think that would be it, your puppy is a little to young. When you touch her back legs does she pull them away? You could always try giving her a warm bath (If it is a pulled muscle or something like it this may help)

Lucky098
Apr 11, 2010, 08:23 PM
Its too early to tell test for Hip Dysplasia..

I still think its trama related. Hope I'm wrong.. and I hope its just the pup being silly..

If she has any issues with her legs, limit activity and moniter everything.

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 09:04 PM
No she doesn't pull them away.. but isn't she still to young for a bath yet?

Lucky098
Apr 11, 2010, 09:05 PM
Nope! Just don't let her get chilled... Keep her wrapped up in a warm blanket and hold her until she's all the way dry.

dmwittenhagen
Apr 11, 2010, 09:06 PM
I've been keeping close eye on her.. im hoping that there isn't damage from the mulling... the thing is I have no idea when it even happened! This is the bad thing about getting a puppy 3erd hand from someone but once I sen her ace I knew she was the dog for my son!

dmwittenhagen
Apr 12, 2010, 09:54 PM
OK so I took jezzibell to the vet today and they took x-rays and said he hasn't ever seen anything like her case but based on what he could find she had something called valgus deformaty.. where her joints are undeveloped. And gave orders for strict bed rest for 2 weeks with exception of going to the bathroom. But what I wonder isn't this going to make her legs weaker if she doesn't use them? He was going to give her a calcium supplement but the smallest dose available is for a 20 pds dog and she is soooooooo not that big.. any thoughts? Thank god there isn't any permanent damage from the mulling of bigger dog!

Cat1864
Apr 12, 2010, 10:20 PM
ok so i took jezzibell to the vet today and they took xrays and said he hasnt ever seen anything like her case but based on what he could find she had something called valgus deformaty..where her joints are undeveloped. and gave orders for strict bed rest for 2 wks with exception of goin to the bathroom. but what i wonder isnt this gonna make her legs weaker if she doesnt use them? he was gonna give her a calcium supplement but the smallest dose available is for a 20 pds dog and she is soooooooo not that big..any thoughts??Thank god there isnt any permenant damage from the mulling of bigger dog!!

The bed rest is to give her joints time to develop without putting stress on them. The underlying structure (joints and bones) needs to strengthen before strengthening her muscles.

It's like building a frame to stretch canvas for a painting on. The framework needs to be able to handle the stress of the canvas being pulled tight. If it can't then the wood warps and the canvas doesn't fit correctly.

She is adorable. :)

dmwittenhagen
Apr 12, 2010, 10:50 PM
I'm hoping that this works! And thanks.. her personality matches too

Cat1864
Apr 13, 2010, 04:34 AM
im hoping that this works!! and thanks..her personality matches too

I hope it works, too. The next two weeks are going to be fun trying to keep Jezzibell quiet. :)

Please, keep us updated. If you have any other questions, ask away. :)

Emily94
Apr 13, 2010, 05:43 AM
That's good news! At least it is not something to bad! Good luck keeping her from walking :)

Aurora_Bell
Apr 13, 2010, 06:58 AM
Aww poor little gal! Sorry to hear that. Just like huimans, she can recover and live a long, happy, normal life!

Keep us posted! :)

shazamataz
Apr 13, 2010, 12:03 PM
Calcium Sanoz Syrup is a calcium supplement specially for dogs.
You buy it in 200ml bottles and give 2ml twice daily for a 3kg dog.

I am currently using this product.

It tastes sweet so the dog has no problem eating it mixed with their food.

I can only find a link to an Australian shopping site at the moment but I'm sure you could find it locally

Calcium Sandoz Syrup - Compare Prices and Deals, Shop & Buy Online in Australia at MyShopping.com.au (http://www.myshopping.com.au/PT--272_Calcium_Sandoz_Syrup__fs_s128005_e__)

dmwittenhagen
Apr 14, 2010, 12:32 AM
Thanks all yea she isn't liking obeying doctors orders too much (so much like my husband lol) she wants to be even friskier now then ever before lol but still likes being carried around lol

Cat1864
Apr 14, 2010, 06:41 AM
thanks all yea she isnt liking obeying drs orders to much (so much like my husband lol) she wants to be even friskier now then ever before lol but still likes being carried around lol

At least at this age they sleep a lot. :)

I am glad you caught it this early in her development. I can't imagine trying to keep an older puppy calm for the length of time it would take them to heal.

Emily94
Apr 14, 2010, 09:54 AM
You could also try crating her for awhile during the day, at least it would give her legs some rest. Or if you don't like using a crate, you could get a cardboard box and cut the top off and make a little bed in it for her.

dmwittenhagen
Apr 18, 2010, 11:55 PM
That's what she already sleeps in emily.. tho lately she has been getting bold and tries to climb out lol.. she is such a silly kid lol..