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mattimeo_boyd
Apr 4, 2010, 07:41 PM
I've been going out with this girl for about 5 months now, knowing she has cancer and her life isn't like it used to be a year ago. She says she loves me, but needs a break to find herself and get back to that girl she used to be. She says she isn't the girlfriend she knows she can be and it's not fair to me and that she isn't saying this because she wants to be someone else. She just has to work all the time to pay off medical bills and has to take hormone pill which really affects her mood and gives her many bad days. She say's she still wants me in her life, wants to still talk and see me, but needs some time to find herself. We talked over the phone and both started to cry even bringing up the topic of breaking up..

KISS
Apr 4, 2010, 07:59 PM
Having cancer is a full time job so to speak. Fighting it can be tiresome. The appointments are time consuming.

Instead of "breaking up" consider how you might "change" the relationship.

Instead of the dates out make them something like: I'll come over and cook for you or help you clean the house. Watch a movie and go home.

Try to make her energy expenditure small and the amount of time small. Respect "i'm tired" and you should go home requests or I'm not up to that today.

asking
Apr 4, 2010, 08:00 PM
I think you should give her more space--for a time.
But don't go away. Continue to be there if you have the strength.

It is hard being a burden to others and she doesn't want to weigh you down. But I would not go no contact in this case. If she needs you and you love her, it doesn't make sense to break up. But think about your own needs in this relationship so you can talk about things openly. It's your life too.

Maybe this just means giving her days when you two don't talk. Talk about this more. See what you both need.

mattimeo_boyd
Apr 4, 2010, 08:04 PM
The thing that doesn't make sense is that she says she needs space to get that foundation with her family and be able to be herself, but then still wants to talk and see me. Maybe it's because she's jumped from long-term relationships to another since high school..

asking
Apr 4, 2010, 08:14 PM
She can have two opposite feelings at once. She wants to see you but she feels like she has to be "on" and at her best with you and doesn't have the energy for that. (I'm just guessing; I can't know her mind.)

People don't always make sense. Be patient. This is a tough time for both of you.

How old are you two?

mattimeo_boyd
Apr 4, 2010, 08:17 PM
21 and 20. When we do hangout she I have physical contact, kiss etc?

talaniman
Apr 4, 2010, 10:08 PM
Back off, and give her some space, and find other things to do for yourself. By talking you can have a better idea of what she means by space, and how much she needs for herself. That can be talked about, and see if it works for you both. Don't take it as a personal rejection, I am sure its not, but you just need to make the right adjustments together is all.

mattimeo_boyd
Apr 4, 2010, 10:22 PM
She also says that she feels so guilty and no matter how many times I tell her it's okay because I understand what she's going through with the cancer (my little brothers had cancer) she still feels guilty

amicon
Apr 4, 2010, 10:50 PM
What makes her feel guilty?
Is she seeing a councilor to help her cope with her illness?

mattimeo_boyd
Apr 4, 2010, 10:53 PM
Guilty because she isn't the girlfriend she knows she can be and that I deserve. She's taking hormone pills and I know that affects her mood to try and reverse her condition. She has cancer in her aorta but the doctor's caught it at an early stage and are trying hormone pills for now.

amicon
Apr 4, 2010, 11:03 PM
I can only suggest that you give her space and continue to be there for her.

Her treatment is bound to make her feel moody.

It's a tough call,on both of you,and I think its best to take it one day at the time.

mattimeo_boyd
Apr 4, 2010, 11:21 PM
She also just feels disconnected from her life. She can't play soccer, which she used to play for her college, due to her illness. I can relate to that because sports is a get away - the field never changes no matter what. Also, she recently totaled her car and go a concussion, dislocated vertebrae, and broken ribs.

amicon
Apr 4, 2010, 11:51 PM
Well,that's even more on her plate-so be patient and let her set the pace.

talaniman
Apr 5, 2010, 06:20 AM
Her life has radically changed, and she sure has been through a lot and its no wonder her thinking has changed.

mattimeo_boyd
Apr 5, 2010, 01:30 PM
Well I'm going to see her tonight after my night class to come up with some sort of resolution, which I hope will take a lot of stress of the both of us.

I wish
Apr 5, 2010, 02:11 PM
If you really cared about her, then respect her wishes. Be there for her so that she can lean on you for strength.

Who knows what the future holds for the two of you, but once she gets herself back on her feet, both of you will have a clearer idea on how to move forward.

Do what you can when you see each other, but patience is the key. You can't force her to rush back into a relationship with you. Let her do it on her own time.

As for you, spend the time apart making yourself a better person. If you improve yourself, you will be in a better position to help her.

mattimeo_boyd
Apr 5, 2010, 04:08 PM
Yeah I was going to present her with various solutions, all involving time apart from each other and see what she has to say. Hopefully we'll be able to come to an agreement...

talaniman
Apr 5, 2010, 04:29 PM
I strongly advice against resolution, get clarity to what she wants instead. I think its much more important to understand than resolve, if you get my drift.

Quiet unwavering support for her position, will go further than anything else you can do.

asking
Apr 6, 2010, 05:42 PM
I strongly advice against resolution, get clarity to what she wants instead. I think its much more important to understand than resolve, if you get my drift.

Quiet unwavering support for her position, will go further than anything else you can do.

Excellent advice.
This isn't a "solve it and move on" kind of problem.

mattimeo_boyd
Apr 6, 2010, 11:45 PM
She now is working normal hours, instead of 6-2am and moved back in with her mom and brother, so I guess this is a start for her. I think having a regular routine and the support of her family is really going to help get her life back on track. Thanks for all the advice guys!

amicon
Apr 6, 2010, 11:54 PM
Good luck and take care-I hope all works out for the best.

mattimeo_boyd
Apr 16, 2010, 01:18 PM
The last words spoke (texted) lol with my ex

Ex: "The reason I haven't ben talking to you is I don't know how to besides how I used to. And we aren't at that same place anymore. I still want to be able to talk to you because I enjoy it. But I can't like we used to because we aren't what we were."

Input?

talaniman
Apr 16, 2010, 02:58 PM
OPEN HONEST DIRECT DIALOG, is seriously lacking!

She needs the love, without the romance! You start by admitting your helpless in knowing what you should do for her, during her time of duress, anguish and pain, and listen EXTREMELY CLOSE, to what she says.

What have you been doing since your last post? Have you been supportive? How? Have you been talking? About what?

Put this in a better context for us.

mattimeo_boyd
Apr 16, 2010, 09:55 PM
Tonight she told me she dates to marry, and right now in her life she doesn't know what she wants or needs.

We haven't seen or had a serious talk in almost 2 weeks. She say's she doesn't want to hurt me. I tell her I would rather know the truth, than believe in some lie.

KISS
Apr 16, 2010, 10:39 PM
The message has a sense of depression in it. Depression sometimes happens with chronic conditions.

"Dating to marry" is instinctive for her. What may have happened is this turned into "I'm not good material for you" thus she falls deeper into depression.

I'm going to recommend counseling.

mattimeo_boyd
Apr 16, 2010, 11:31 PM
The thing that is upsetting me is that all of this is being done over text message. I don't like texting, especially with serious matters. She always says we can talk about it "soon" then a couple days go by and all I get is a couple texts. Tonight she texted me and said we'll talk after she cuts her brothers hair. An hour later she says we'll talk "soon soon promise" and now I'm going to try and get some sleep because I have my Washington Educator Skills Test tomorrow at 7am.

KISS
Apr 16, 2010, 11:42 PM
Hey, give her credit. She's trying.

Ask her if she would be willing to write you a letter (email) containing her feelings, her thoughts on herself, what direction does she plan to take in the relationship or otherwise. Tell her a don''t know is an OK response.

Ask her of her concerns and more important what YOU can do for her. You can start with your email.

At least there will be dialog.

talaniman
Apr 17, 2010, 06:34 AM
Sorry to say the texting, and not seeing each other is not good for the communications, and despite wanting resolution, you will never get it the way your going.

I don't know her feelings but her actions say she is weaning herself from you and putting you in the friend zone.

It may be time to disappear because putting off a talk to get you both on the same page usually is not a good sign, and you may have to resign yourself to that.

I think you leave her alone for a week, completely, no calls, no texts, and see if you can be doing your own thing without her. Enjoy yourself, and leave this limbo behind you for a while.

You trying to communicate with her is annoying, since what she wanted was space, so see this as a break up, regroup, and let her tell you when her space time is over. That may take years, or until she breaks up with you.

I think, despite what you have posted, you have been pushing for a resolution to all this, and have not allowed her space enough to miss you, and that usually drives a partner further away, so disappear for your own good, and see if your perspective changes. The worse thing you can do is keep pushing for explanations, or face time, because that will only frustrate you further, and make things worse. That's not giving someone space, and is an extreme turn off.

Sorry guy, but when they ask for space, you give it to them, and do your own thing, and as you enjoy yourself, without bothering them, then they can think without any influence from you, and you aren't showing them stress, and frustration.

mattimeo_boyd
Apr 17, 2010, 07:01 PM
I agree completely with you Talaniman. In the past, I wouldn't have any contact with my ex girlfriends after we broke up and a couple weeks later they would want to get back together or I realized I wanted to be alone and enjoy myself.

I just have never loved anyone like I do this girl. My head wasn't clear and it's obvious I made some dumb decisions.

I told her today I'm going to respect her wishes and don't want to force anything. I'm giving her the space she wants and told her I'm happy she's being honest with me and herself.

Hopefully I get to see her before I go back to Alaska in June to work for the summer.

mattimeo_boyd
Apr 24, 2010, 08:17 PM
So I have a problem. I previously told her, my ex, that I'm going to be having a party at the beginning of May when my roommate goes out of town and she texted me today asking if she can come.

talaniman
Apr 25, 2010, 10:24 AM
Of course she can, why not??

mattimeo_boyd
Apr 25, 2010, 11:36 AM
I just want to enjoy myself and don't want any drama to come from her being there.

talaniman
Apr 25, 2010, 12:45 PM
There can only be drama if you allow yourself to see drama. No reason you shouldn't have a great time, as she is but one person. There will be many others there as well.

mattimeo_boyd
May 2, 2010, 04:43 PM
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My girlfriend and I have been broken up for a couple months now. I've moved on and so has she, but I want to be friends with her. How do I stay close to a girl I was in love with and not jeopardize and future relationship I may have?

asking
May 2, 2010, 04:49 PM
Boundaries, really clear sharp ones. :)