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JustLaw
Mar 12, 2010, 12:09 PM
Hi everyone
I have been wondering about my boyfriend and drinking. I know that no one can say for sure if he is an alcoholic, but I thought maybe someone may have more insight that myself.
He is fiftty and now has his second dui in 7 years this time he refused the breatherlizer but was speeding and failed the sobriety tests.
He is 6'4 and 240 pounds thefore he can hold his liquor, well to an extent. He can drink a regular sized bottle of wine in a night, by himself in a night. I hve seen him do that a few times. He gets an attitude but kind of a macho attitude. Not like he is going to punch someone in the face kind of thing but that puff out the chest type of thing.
He doesn't fit, hit, or threaten violence in any way. He gets up and goes to work every day.
He says he only drinks when he has to work the next day as it helps him to sleep. He also recently told me that he was at a party where he didn't drink and that someone said to him "you are more fun when you have been drinking".
We do have conversations on the phone where he will forget a few things, but to be fair he is up early and does have a very physical job so he is tired a lot. But there could be more to that than I reaize.
I have asked him about it before, his drinking, and he always tells me it takes a lot to get him drunk. I have expressed concern but he always tells me it's not bad. There are times he says "but I am at home and not running the streets, so I'm being safe."
When he has gone out to the local eatery with some friends, there were times he had a few drinks and then drove home. I told him I didn't like that , but he tends to comment how the eatery is like only a mile away... to me that makes no difference.
'He does have a very noticeable slur and gets slap happy... but then so do I. There have been times where he has talked to me and he will forget part of the conversation, but attributes that to being tired. He is always tired.
He is up by 5 am usually, runs all day, (I know he is a very hard worker-stocking and all that) comes home by 5:30 and usually will take a nap and then will be back in bed for the night by ten or eleven.
Do any of these things indicate to you that he has a SERIOUS problem with alcohol or just someone who has shown bad judgement.
Any insight would be appreciated
tickle
Mar 12, 2010, 02:42 PM
I read your post and gave it some thought before I answered. He has two DUI and unfortunately probably didn't mean zero tolerance whatever state you are in, refusing breathalizer test, speeding, whatever. This doesn't sound good. I don't really care about him being able to 'hold his liquor', are you and he proud of that? It sounds like you do like him that way. It doesn't sound like he has much disclipine.
Drinking to help him sleep. No one should have to do that to sleep, so yes, he probably does have an alcohol problem. Does he drink as soon as he gets up in the morning, to 'get him going?'
He as 2 DUIs and he is lucky he didn't kill someone driving while under the influence. If he lived in Ontario, he would be off the roads in a heart beat.
Yes, he does have a drinking problem, so enrol him in AAA, but first you have to get him there before he gets another DUI; before he has an accident, maining him, or someone else, or before you don't have him anymore.
Tick
JustLaw
Mar 12, 2010, 03:15 PM
No I don't like him that way. I was just stating my observations and stating things he has told me.
He is from Texas and they do have a zero tolerance law. I always told him that he needed to look at what he was doing because things can happen, bad things. I would HATE for anything bad to happen to him or anyone else.
I personally haven't seen him drink first thing in the morning and have seen him go several days without drinking.
I think one DUI is one DUI too many and have told him that before.
I have talked to him about his drinking before and he has always brushed it off as if everything was fine.
Fr_Chuck
Mar 12, 2010, 03:23 PM
I used to work every day 12 hour days, started the day with a "screwdriver" for breakfeast and helped it along with a couple beers at lunch, followed by a fifth of something most evenings.
I was a great worker, in fact when I became sober there was a standing joke I was a much better boss drunk than I ever was sober. Never missed a day and so on.
Being a drunk does not mean you are man and hit people, most of the drunks I know are more lovers or talkers than anything when drunk,
The fact is, can he stop, if he can just not drink for a week, then he is in control, if he can not stop or needs it to "sleep" then it controls him
And of course he is fine with it, since he is happy being a drunk, most of them are, and it is always someone else's fault.
The fact he is drinking and driving makes it worst, it shows he is a stupid drunk.
JustLaw
Mar 12, 2010, 03:35 PM
I agree, he was stupid when he got behind that wheel. It angers me that he would ever take that chance. I have seen him go 5 days without a drink and does fall asleep but when he works he tells me that he drinks to unwind or because it helps him to sleep.
The fact that he can drink a regular bottle of wine by himself in a night makes me worry for him.
J_9
Mar 12, 2010, 03:42 PM
tells me that he drinks to unwind or because it helps him to sleep.
That's called an excuse. All alcoholics have them. They have to create reasons it's "okay" for them to drink.
JustLaw
Mar 12, 2010, 03:48 PM
Does it seem as if he is leaning more towards alcoholism or just some really bad judgement in regards to alcohol?
twinkiedooter
Mar 12, 2010, 03:49 PM
Alcohol if anything will not help you sleep as it dehydrates the body of water. It's just his excuse to get bombed before he passes out. Sounds like he has a drinking problem to me and I was married to a drunk.
Wondergirl
Mar 12, 2010, 03:52 PM
He is a functioning alcoholic. Please go to Al-Anon meetings to learn how to cope with this. No one can make him go to AA, but it would be a good thing if he did.
JustLaw
Mar 12, 2010, 03:53 PM
I was always surprised he said alcohol helped him sleep. Alcohol makes me hyper, not tired.
Sorry Twinkie
JustLaw
Mar 12, 2010, 04:01 PM
Wondergirl
A functioning alcoholic, I have to read about that one. He generally is quick tempered but I don't know if that has anything to do with him as a person or related to alcohol.
jmjoseph
Mar 12, 2010, 04:01 PM
Does he drink every day? When was the last time that he had a good time while NOT drinking?
I'm an alcoholic, yet in recovery, and know that it's a tough question that you're asking. For you to come here with this issue, alcohol must have caused some problems, beside the DUI s. THEY are reason enough for intervention. I don't care what size he is, he shouldn't drive while intoxicated.
I don't know this guy at all. But I do know the "game". I know that no matter how much you try to help him, he will tell you how "hard he works", and how he can stop whenever" he wants. The truth of the matter is that he's not going to even THINK about quitting until something major happens. We all have our own "bottoms". Like an elevator, alcoholism stops at different levels.
So, is he an alcoholic? I don't know for sure, but it sure does sound like he's on the path.
Tell him how you feel. Over lunch.
If he does try to stop drinking, he should do it under medical supervision. He could die while trying it at home.
God bless you for having such a good heart.
Wondergirl
Mar 12, 2010, 04:03 PM
I was always surprised he said alcohol helped him sleep. Alcohol makes me hyper, not tired.
Small amounts of alcohol have a relaxing and euphoric effect so a person feels confident, more social and jovial. Alcohol is a depressant (not a stimulant) and enough of it will cause you to fall asleep, but the quality of the sleep tends to be poor.
JustLaw
Mar 12, 2010, 04:09 PM
jmjoseph
I don't know if he drinks every day. I live out of state unfortunately. I do know he tells me he drinks when he has to work the next day because it helps him to sleep. He says he doesn't drink on his off days. That's what he says at least.
I know when he gets upset he will drink. I agree no matter what, he should NOT drink and drive period. He told me about his first dui willingly. I told him I did NOT like that at all and what I thought of drunk drivers.
We broke up for a while and are just now finding our way back to one another. I know about the second dui but he doesn't know that I know about everything. I wanted him to tell me, but he hasn't. I even flat our asked him if he was in any kind of legal trouble (to give him an in to speak up about it) but he said no, everything is fine.
I did find out that with his second dui he told the police he was just tired... and nervous.
There was a nystaglas (not sure if I am citing the right name) and he failed. He had to do thewalk and turn and they had to tell him several times what to do and to start over. He also had to stand on one leg and apparently he put it down seven times during the test.
Small amounts of alcohol have a relaxing and euphoric effect so a person feels confident, more social and jovial. Alcohol is a depressant (not a stimulant) and enough of it will cause you to fall asleep, but the quality of the sleep tends to be poor.
What concerns me most is how much of it he needs to fall asleep.
Small amounts of alcohol have a relaxing and euphoric effect so a person feels confident, more social and jovial. Alcohol is a depressant (not a stimulant) and enough of it will cause you to fall asleep, but the quality of the sleep tends to be poor.
Actually come to think of it, he does tend to say that he tosses and turns a lot and is always tired. He will be up for work at 5 am and work a phsyical job till 5:30. He will come home, take a nap and then watch some TV and be back in bed at 10 or 11 for the night. He is always tired.
He is also on high blood pressure medicine.
Kitkat22
Mar 12, 2010, 04:17 PM
Small amounts of alcohol have a relaxing and euphoric effect so a person feels confident, more social and jovial. Alcohol is a depressant (not a stimulant) and enough of it will cause you to fall asleep, but the quality of the sleep tends to be poor.
We were going on vacation several years ago and were caught in a traffic jam. As I set there I noticed a huge sign with photos of four very pretty girls on it. Underneath was the caption, "Our daughters missed prom this year and graduation. They were killed by a drunken driver."'
It was sponsored by MADD. Take your boyfriend and let him tell these mothers and thousands of others, how much fun he is when he's drunk! How can you be so casual about his drinking?
Sorry WG didn't mean to hijack a thread.
J_9
Mar 12, 2010, 04:20 PM
Have to spread the love Kity, but my cousin was killed by a drunk driver who was only driving home from the "corner bar."
JustLaw
Mar 12, 2010, 04:21 PM
Have to spread the love Kity, but my cousin was killed by a drunk driver who was only driving home from the "corner bar."
J-9
I am so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine what you all must have went through. There is no excuse for drinking and driving... no matter how short the distance... period.
jmjoseph
Mar 12, 2010, 04:23 PM
If he's an alcoholic, he's going to lie. He's going to deny. He will bend the truth.
Get used to it, he's sick, not bad.
Are you thinking of a long term relationship with him?
JustLaw
Mar 12, 2010, 04:23 PM
Kit how very sad. I wish I knew more to say. What a tradgedy.
JustLaw
Mar 12, 2010, 04:26 PM
If he's an alcoholic, he's gonna lie. He's gonna deny. He will bend the truth.
Get used to it, he's sick, not bad.
Are you thinking of a long term relationship with him?
I was but I am seriously scared right now.
Wondergirl
Mar 12, 2010, 04:43 PM
He is also on high blood pressure medicine.
One doesn't combine drugs with alcohol. It's deadly.
Here's a bit from netdoctor.co.uk --
When should I be worried if I have an alcohol problem?
There are a number of pointers that should lead you to consider if you have an alcohol problem. These include:
* using alcohol to try to escape from your worries and troubles.
* using alcohol to help you sleep.
* if you drink every day.
* if you are drinking more than the recommended units a week.
* if having a drink starts being one of the most important things in your life.
* if you are regularly drinking alone.
* if people are advising you to cut down the amount you drink.
* if you get annoyed by people criticising your drinking.
* if you feel guilty about drinking.
* if you need a drink in the morning to be able to face the world.
* if you feel shaky in the morning after drinking heavily.
* if you have periods when you were drinking that you cannot recall.
* if you have ever had problems at work because of drink.
* if you have ever been arrested or charged with any drink-related offence.
Kitkat22
Mar 12, 2010, 04:48 PM
Have to spread the love Kity, but my cousin was killed by a drunk driver who was only driving home from the "corner bar."
I'm sorry J. That must really hurt. There two young ladies from our neighboring county killed last year by a guy who had three DUI's and was driving on a revoked license. It makes me sick!
jmjoseph
Mar 12, 2010, 04:57 PM
So basically he is a "nice" drunk who thinks that he drive "fine".
Someone needs to hide his keys.
People are killed every day by "fine" drivers who have "trouble sleeping".
He's a drunk driver.
Hopefully, he will get help soon.
Justlaw, Are you willing to take this on?
JustLaw
Mar 12, 2010, 05:40 PM
I'm so confused right now... I don't know what to think.
Kitkat22
Mar 12, 2010, 05:43 PM
Have to spread the love Kity, but my cousin was killed by a drunk driver who was only driving home from the "corner bar."
Bet the dd never got a scratch!
Fr_Chuck
Mar 12, 2010, 05:44 PM
What is confusing, he drinks too much, does not admit it,
Common signs, if he admitted it and would "know" he had a problem he would be trying to stop.
Kitkat22
Mar 12, 2010, 05:48 PM
I'm so confused right now.....I don't know what to think.
Take the advice of the people on this site. Some of the best advice you will ever get. Every person on here will tell you what you need to hear, not what they think you want to hear. I'm sorry but you can get help for him and if he's willing who knows?
JustLaw
Mar 12, 2010, 05:49 PM
That's not what I am confused about. I don't know what to do or what to say. I can't believe I didn't see this before.
Kitkat22
Mar 12, 2010, 06:00 PM
That's not what I am confused about. I don't know what to do or what to say. I can't believe I didn't see this before.
You know what, you came on this forum and asked for help and that shows you are concerned. That's a start. You are not a bad person. I believe we all see things in people we love that we don't want to face. But you are facing them. Ask him about AA and if you have too, insist on it.
Wondergirl
Mar 12, 2010, 06:02 PM
Ask him about AA and if you have too, insist on it.
But remember, HE has to be the one who wants to attend meetings. You can't force him to go. YOU for sure go to Al-Anon, or even just an open AA meeting. At least once.
Kitkat22
Mar 12, 2010, 06:05 PM
But remember, HE has to be the one who wants to attend meetings. You can't force him to go. YOU for sure go to Al-Anon, or even just an open AA meeting. At least once.
You always say the right thing WG.
Wondergirl
Mar 12, 2010, 06:10 PM
You always say the right thing WG.
I spent three years in grad school and nearly $20,000 so I could. :)
Kitkat22
Mar 12, 2010, 06:12 PM
I spent three years in grad school and nearly $20,000 so I could. :)
And you always say it well. You got your moneys worth. :D:D
JustLaw
Mar 12, 2010, 06:14 PM
I am looking up info for Alanon
Kitkat22
Mar 12, 2010, 06:18 PM
I am looking up info for Alanon
Good for you. But as Wondergirl stated it has to be his choice. Good luck!
JustLaw
Mar 12, 2010, 06:23 PM
I meant the support group for me.
Kitkat22
Mar 12, 2010, 06:26 PM
I meant the support group for me.
You will be in my prayers and I think it's wonderful you are getting some help for yourself.. Please let all of us know how you are doing. Good Luck and God Bless! :):)
Wondergirl
Mar 12, 2010, 06:34 PM
I meant the support group for me.
Wonderful! You will learn coping skills and begin to understand what is happening to him physically, emotionally, and spiritually.
Kitkat22
Mar 12, 2010, 06:58 PM
You know we will be here for you.
tickle
Mar 12, 2010, 09:11 PM
I meant the support group for me.''
Good luck, girl, get him pulled through if you love him a lot.
Tick
Kitkat22
Mar 12, 2010, 09:56 PM
You're doing a great thing.
Blessings!