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dec
Feb 22, 2010, 08:19 PM
Has anyone heard of or used the "ultimate overflow tub gasket" (www.ultimateoverflow.com)? If so, what do you think of it? It looks ingenious to me and much easier to deal with than replacing a standard gasket. It also seems like it never needs replacement. What do you think? I've tried to contact the company that makes it, but no response yet. Does anyone know if someone else makes one like this?
letmetellu
Feb 22, 2010, 08:48 PM
Why pay 20 to 30 bucks for one when you can get a new gasket for a couple of dollars.
But I can understand your post if you are the one selling them.
dec
Feb 22, 2010, 08:55 PM
No, I'm the one considering buy it. Did you see it? It's not a simple $2 gasket. This device goes in from the tub side... INTO the overflow pipe... so no outside-the-tub gasket is needed; it can't leak, it seems to me. The guy who makes it still hasn't responded to my email or calls. Just wondering if anyone has ever used this device. Thanks for the response.
speedball1
Feb 23, 2010, 06:48 AM
Looks like just another high priced gadget that you don't need. Who fills the tub t6o overflowing every time?
Let's do the math. The gasket by itself is $14.95
Add the chrome cover ( and that's not including the trip lever and stopper) $21.95 and if you want it in brass or polished nickel $24.95
We3're looking at over $35.00 and thar's not including the trip lever or stopper.
The price of a regular chrome trip lever tub waste and overflow. $24.95
And when's the last time any one of us had a call to replace a bad overflow gasket.
My advice? Save your money and put it towards a nice dinner for you and the wife. Good luck, Tom
dec
Feb 23, 2010, 10:50 AM
Yeah, but one good leak can ruin a ceiling or wall beneath. As to the other parts you mention, I believe I can use the existing parts already there in conjunction with this device. Still, I appreciate your advice and will take it. Thank you.
speedball1
Feb 23, 2010, 10:58 AM
Yeah, but one good leak can ruin a ceiling or wall beneath
That's what the original gasket's there for. What ever happened to.
"If it ain't broke don't fix it?"
In over 50 years out in the field I have never got a complaint that the overflow gasket had failed causing a leak when some idiot overfilled the tub. Can you explain exactly why you think you need this item? Tom
letmetellu
Feb 23, 2010, 08:21 PM
I don't understand just why the plastic tube goes down into the overflow pipe. If the gasket that is at the top of the plastic tube seals on both sides, against the tub and against the face plate then why the tube. Also I am not sure that if someday you wanted to pull the linkage to replace the linkage or unstop[ the tub, will it pull up and out of the overflow pipe with the plastic tube in place.
speedball1
Feb 24, 2010, 07:37 AM
Also I am not sure that if someday you wanted to pull the linkage to replace the linkage or unstop[ the tub, will it pull up and out of the overflow pipe with the plastic tube in place
Letmretellu,
You're going to hafta remove the chrome face plate, gasket or plastic tube and trip lever assembly all at the same time. The plastic tube won't "stay in place"
Regards, Tom
That's what the original gasket's there for. What ever happened to.
"If it ain't broke don't fix it?"
In over 50 years out in the field I have never got a complaint that the overflow gasket had failed causing a leak when some idiot overfilled the tub. Can you explain exactly why you think you need this item? Tom
The original gasket (from 1970) has completely deteriorated, and the tub leaks from the overflow if the water reaches high enough, which it does when you take a bath. I have the back of the tub exposed, and I can clearly see the bad gasket and the leak.
I don't understand just why the plastic tube goes down into the overflow pipe. If the gasket that is at the top of the plastic tube seals on both sides, against the tub and against the face plate then why the tube. Also I am not sure that if someday you wanted to pull the linkage to replace the linkage or unstop[ the tub, will it pull up and out of the overflow pipe with the plastic tube in place.
I see your point. And I've also had the same thought about that tube interfering with the linkage. Thanks.
letmetellu
Mar 1, 2010, 06:23 PM
I see your point. And I've also had the same thought about that tube interfering with the linkage. Thanks.
After looking at the thing that was being discussed I realized that it is make with a bar across the over folw opening and then the face plate is mounted with a single screw, so if you use this you can not use it with a tub that has a linkage running from the top down to the tee of the waste and overflow.
After looking at the thing that was being discussed I realized that it is make with a bar across the over folw opening and then the face plate is mounted with a single screw, so if you use this you can not use it with a tub that has a linkage running from the top down to the tee of the waste and overflow.
The owner says if you want to use the existing linkage, you must say so when ordering; they make it with this option, if you need it.
pixibite
Apr 14, 2010, 08:48 PM
Yes, we used this product for a 20 unit apartment complex and they worked like a charm! Almost to easy, 2 minute install. We would order this product again.
tongchai
Aug 9, 2012, 02:34 PM
Is this product available for purchase in the store? I'm in Portland, Oregon area. Thanks.
speedball1
Aug 9, 2012, 04:34 PM
Is this product available for purchase in the store? I'm in Portland, Oregon area. Thanks.
Can't tell you what stores carry thus gasket(see image) but you may purchase it at http://www.ultimateoverflow.com/ n Look on the bottom to order. Good luck, Tom
pixibite
Aug 9, 2012, 07:20 PM
I ordered and the phone number didn't work but this email address did.
[email protected]
speedball1
Aug 10, 2012, 06:25 AM
Thanks for the updated information. Tom
sheilagr
Aug 25, 2012, 09:49 AM
House built in 78 upstairs tub leaking around drain gasket. Replaced gasket and drain assembly. Now it is leaking even worse. Why? Here are my thoughts. There is a mushy spot on underside of tub about 2 inches long 3/4 inch wide in fiberglass where leak started. Is this the problem? Am I going to need a whole new tub? Is there any trick to get a good seal or repair this?
tboz
Aug 25, 2012, 12:49 PM
Where did you put this gasket on the crome part or between the tub and shue
massplumber2008
Aug 25, 2012, 01:00 PM
Hi Tboz
To install a tub drain assembly you use plumber's putty on the top side of the tub between the chrome strainer and the tub and then place the gasket against the underside of the tub and the tub shoe against that gasket.
That should stop the leak... ;)
Mark
sheilagr
Aug 25, 2012, 03:22 PM
If I am understanding your question correctly the shue is beneath the gasket and the gasket sits on top of the crome but under the lower edge of the finished tub where the old gasket came out of. There is a small imperfection where the old plumbers putty was. As far as I can tell its not a crack when I put it all back together it was well covered by the new plumbers putty. No leaking happened till I flipped the thing to fill the tub with water. That's why I think it has more to do with the gasket but I could be all wet here(HAHA).
massplumber2008
Aug 25, 2012, 03:33 PM
Sorry Shiela as it seems your thead kind of got hijacked by Tboz and now things are all messed up... *UGH*.
Please repost more info. On this and I'll respond pretty quick off, OK?
If the leak doesn't show up until you drain the tub then the gasket is certainly suspect here... could be that you didn't tighten the strainer enough, maybe?
This tub doesn't have a tub liner does it?
Back to you...
Mark
sheilagr
Aug 25, 2012, 03:48 PM
No no liner.
no no liner.
What other info would be helpful?
massplumber2008
Aug 25, 2012, 05:49 PM
Hi Sheilagr
Again, my apologies as I try to answer questions in a manner that doesn't get into a back and forth back and forth, but I must admit that I got lost here somehow... *ugh*.
You said, "There is a mushy spot on underside of tub about 2 inches long 3/4 inch wide in fiberglass where leak started"...
Then, next, you said, "No leaking happened till I flipped the thing to fill the tub with water. That's why I think it has more to do with the gasket but I could be all wet here"...
Please start from the beginning and explain when you first noticed the leak, where you noticed it, and what steps you took to correct it (sound like you replaced the gasket and drain assembly) and where it is leaking now. Finally, how does the mushy spot connect to the gasket?? Back to you, OK?
Thanks...
Mark
captainfletch
Aug 25, 2012, 08:31 PM
I would like a phone number to order one. The one listed does not work. Thank you!
speedball1
Aug 26, 2012, 07:26 AM
I would like a phone number to order one. The one listed does not work. thank you!
1-630-903-5919 worked for me, It got me to a voice mail. You can leave a callback number, Bur I still want to know why in the world would people pay money to purchase this product? Hey experts! When's the last time you got a call to to replace a bad overflow gasket? I rest my case. Tom
massplumber2008
Aug 26, 2012, 07:49 AM
Hi Tom
Hey! I have to say that the manufacturer of this item won't be happy but like you said, Tom, in my 30+ years I've only run into 2 or 3 rotted gaskets and then I simply pulled them out from the front and replaced them with a $3.00 replacement gasket I get at any home improvement store.
I simply can't understand why anyone would purchase this thing??
Have a good day!
sheilagr
Aug 26, 2012, 07:53 AM
Ok, about a week ago the family room ceiling had a blister in the paint. So my husband poked his finger up there and guess what a leak. He cut away the dry wall and it was the tub drain. So since we can se both the top and bottom of this problem we can diagnose pretty well. We only really seemed to get leaking with baths not with showers. But only as the tub was draining. The leak was definitely around the drain assembly. We bought a new drain (sorry I don't know all the technical terms). The brass fitting that screws down from the top and the tool to replace that. Also since the old gasket came out in about six pieces we purchased that new. However the new gasket it slightly smaller in outer circumfrence (could that be the issue dif is 1/8 in). We since removed assembly and gasket. Gasket has plubmers putty marks all round except one small area (problem? )
Ok hope this helps.
Thanks sooooo much
She
speedball1
Aug 26, 2012, 08:15 AM
Don any of the other experts agree that this is a rip-off? In my book anybody stupid enough to fill their bathtub to overflowing is 3 cans short of a six-pack. Cheers, Tom
massplumber2008
Aug 26, 2012, 05:23 PM
Hi Sheila
Boy, I don't know what's going on around here, but now someone went and combined your original thread (that was already hijacked by Tboz) with this long thread about tub overflow gaskets... nothing to do with your original question about the tub SHOE gasket... ;)
All I can tell you without being there is that you need lots of putty up top at the strainer, lots of pipe dope on the tub strainer threads (going into tub shoe) and you need to have the tub shoe gasket up tight to the tub when you strongly tighten the tub strainer into place. Be sure NOT to displace the tub shoe gasket when tightening...
Let me know what happens, OK?
Mark
edrenckh
Sep 28, 2012, 01:40 PM
Renters fill the tub up all the time. If you have multi-family rental property, you need these. Maybe not every renter is bad, but enough are. It only takes one call from the renter below and you wish you had them.
speedball1
Sep 28, 2012, 02:06 PM
you need these. Maybe not every renter is bad, but enough are. It only takes one call from the renter below and you wish you had them. So you're saying that I should replace a working gasket with this because why? It's better? Stops leaks better? What?
Tell me something that would make ne trash my working gasket for one of these.
My opinion is that these gaskets, right along with Rid-X and Septic Savior are scams based on "Scare advertising " Prove me wrong. Regards. Tom
bolocop
Dec 4, 2012, 02:22 PM
I just bought one of these. There is no conspiracy here. If it's just a $3 gasket you're changing, then it's a rip-off, but if you have kids who constantly take showers, you will need the Ultimate Gasket. Why? Even a good overflow gasket traps water between the steel tub and the gasket. Eventually, the tub will rust and leak.
Without this gasket, I would have had to hire a plumber to rip out and replace my tub. What's that job cost, including drywall and tile work?
This $20 gasket has saved me thousands of dollars. I wished I had thought of it...
bolocop
Dec 4, 2012, 02:31 PM
So you're saying that I should replace a working gasket with this because why? It's better? stops leaks better? What??
Tell me something that would make ne trash my working gasket for one of these.
My personal opinion is that these gaskets, right along with Rid-X and Septic Savior are scams based on "Scare advertising " Prove me wrong. Regards. Tom
I'm just a customer who has saved thousands of dollars by purchasing one of these ultimate gaskets.
To all the professionals claiming this is a conspiracy or "Scare advertising", let me ask you what you would suggest to the customer if they called you for a job where the tub had rusted around the overflow gasket and started leaking? Would you replace the overflow gasket, knowing that a new gasket will not seal around the rust? Would you suggest replacing the tub? Of course you guys would, that makes you thousands of dollars.
Instead, you could have installed something for $20 and save your customers thousands, but why would you want to do that?
speedball1
Dec 4, 2012, 04:20 PM
I don't know bolocop. If I had a call on a tub that rusted out the overflow I'd be giving the drain a very hard look. It's been my experience that the drain will rust out before the overflow will.
Got a magic gasket fir that? / Replace the tub? You bet I would. Regards, Tom
massplumber2008
Dec 5, 2012, 07:40 PM
Clearly Bolocop works for or is related to the people making this silly device!
To suggest that people that devote hundreds of hours a year with NO COMPENSATION "Would you suggest replacing the tub? Of course you guys would, that makes you thousands of dollars"... clearly misses how things work around here!
The device is nonsense... glad to argue it hard core if they want!
Mark
speedball1
Dec 6, 2012, 07:01 AM
Thanks for the backup Mark.
Bolocop, You say
I'm just a customer who has saved thousands of dollars by purchasing one of these ultimate gaskets. Then you must have lots of paperwork to back up your claim. So-- Let's see your proof,
Would you suggest replacing the tub? Of course you guys would, that makes you thousands of dollars. Rusty old tubs nee3d to be replaced. It's far more likely a tub will rust around the drain before it will rust around the overflow. And what sort of idiot fills a tub so full it runs out the overflow? Cheers, Tom
mareola
Dec 28, 2012, 11:45 PM
I am a renter with a manager who has for years ignored my request to inspect and replace the gasket on my overflow drain. I am not an idiot, but water does sometimes splash from my showers into the overflow and my kids do sometimes splash water into the drain as well. All the water that finds its way anywhere near the drain comes down directly onto the downstairs bathroom ceiling. I bought this product because I have no experience changing an overflow gasket myself and am not authorized to bring in my own plumber (nor do I want to pay one when my rent should cover these kind of minor repairs). I needed a fool-proof product that I could instal easily that would be sure to work. There is no more leak and I am a happy camper. And before I am accused of being a shill, I am a high school teacher with no affiliation to this company. Just a person with a specific problem that found a simple solution.