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timcress100
Feb 20, 2010, 12:17 AM
My silver half-shekel of Tyre has Melgarth on obverse and Eagle on prow on reverse.What I need to know is the markings or date marks on the right and left sides of the Eagle.I`m still not sure if this coin is real.It has an A sidewaysM on the right-hand side of Eagle under palm branch.It also has T or PM on the left side over I think Herakules club.It is not round,it`s a-typical and kind of a little bowl shaped.It could be silver or most likely bronze.Melgarth has the long curl down his cheek.Any info on date markings or anything else would be helpful!

Clough
Feb 21, 2010, 08:51 PM
Hi, timcress100!

I've moved your question out of Other Money & Services to this forum topic area where it will be more likely to be noticed and addressed by our Coins and Currency Expert, Flying Blue Eagle.

Thanks!

timcress100
Feb 21, 2010, 11:48 PM
I am new to this site.I thought you ASK a question and get an answer.I just need to know if this coin is authentic or fake.I`ve been on the internet and seen a lot of Half-Shekels.None with the date marks of mine.even the fakes or reproductions are copies from the originals,the (date marks)on mine don`t match them.Mine has the (TPOY)inscriptions,or most of it.The Eagle has one wing with Greek AM(M sideways)on the right.I`ve never seen it on the Internet.Any information is helpful.What is it?

timcress100
Feb 22, 2010, 12:07 AM
Hi, timcress100!

I've moved your question out of Other Money & Services to this forum topic area where it will be more likely to be noticed and addressed by our Coins and Currency Expert, Flying Blue Eagle.

Thanks! Thanks Clough,I`m new to this.I`m also new to using a computer.I don`t type well or fast.I`m grateful for the feedback.Any info would be helpful. TIM

Clough
Feb 22, 2010, 12:13 AM
Flying Blue Eagle has current documentaion about coins and currency. If he doesn't have the information, then he will seek it out from various resources that he has.

I'm not sure when he'll be along here. He has some health issues and has been in an out of the hospital. But, I do note, that he has been on here in the past several days.

It's just going to take some patience before he gets here. But, at the earliest, I would think that tomorrow during the day would be more likely for him to come around.

I know that he'll be real interested in what you have!

Thanks!

timcress100
Feb 22, 2010, 01:50 AM
Clough,I am new here.And I`m just going to take a jump.You`re Flying Blue Eagle.And if your not,I hope he gets better with his illness. Tim

timcress100
Feb 23, 2010, 09:56 PM
I am back trying to get some information on the half-shekel of mine.I had a lot of trouble logging back on this site.I just thought I would try to give some more details on this Half-Shekel.On the left side it looks like a PM over Heracules club.Heracules club looks like it has a feather or something hanging to the right off the top of it.It almost looks like a ZX between the Eagles legs on the ships prow.On the right side under the palm branch it looks like the (date mark)is A sideways M.M open end to right.Left side edge lettering looks like ,AIAZVAV or Y.Right side looks like TVIOV.I could be mistaken,my eyes aren`t great.Please forgive me ,I`m new at this.I don`t really know my way around these sites.I would really appreciate a quick and knowledgeable reply. timcress100

Clough
Feb 23, 2010, 10:37 PM
I did notice that Flying Blue Eagle was on the site, at least for awhile tonight. I'm going to personally let him know about your question.

Thanks!

Clough
Feb 23, 2010, 10:50 PM
I sent Flying Blue Eagle a private message to alert him to this thread, as well as a copy to you, timcress100. Please let me know on this thread if you received it or not.

I have current books about American coins and paper currency, but not about foreign coins. Flying Blue Eagle has a lot more resources than I do.

Thanks!

Flying Blue Eagle
Feb 24, 2010, 10:21 PM
Timcrecs100= SORRY I haven't gotten bsack to you sooner, I saw your post last night and I got started on getting you the answers that you requested,this morning; I hope to be able to answer your questions tomorrow night ;Please have pacience:: I have a disk that has about 1200 pages on it and it covers some forign coins ;if I can't find it on there I know three other places to look' HAVE A GREAT DAY AND GOD BLESS;;I wish you had a way to send a picture of it {both SIDES} BEsides myself a lot opf other people would get to see something that they will more then likely ever get to see one of these coins ;; F.B.E.:: CLOUGH =THanks for the EMAIL ALERT ON this post; YOU have a great day aklsdo and GOD BLESS YOU ;;F.B.E.

Clough
Feb 24, 2010, 10:43 PM
God Bless You Too, F.B.E. I'm glad that you're on this!

Thanks!

Flying Blue Eagle
Feb 25, 2010, 09:00 PM
Timcress100=the sheckel of tyre[silver coins-138-126B.C.]#1the obverseof each shekel coin,features the [Graven image of "Melkart" [ Baal] [the greek inscription
The HOLY and inviolable" and a [date] ;; the annualtax for males 20 yearsold or older was specified as a [HALF SHEKLE};TIM -this is as far as I got today ,I will be back on it in the morning : Where IM going First in the morning is on the east coast and a hour ahead of us .IM hopeing threw them that they will be able to send me a picture of the half shekel[both sides and answer a couple questions for me also} Be back on your question tomorrow night Have a good one and GOD BLESS ::F.B.E.

timcress100
Feb 26, 2010, 12:19 AM
Thanks for getting back with me.I do wish I could send pictures of this coin.My computer is not set up for it.It looks like other Half-Shekels except for date-marks and feather or leaf on top of Heracules club. Bowl shape and not round. One winged Eagle,wing on right side.Answer this,please.

Flying Blue Eagle
Feb 27, 2010, 09:02 PM
Timcress100- I hope you haven't given up on me yet, I'm still working on it
I have contatacted a coin collector I know that collects anceint coins ,and I know that he will send email to me about this coin , Im waiting his reply now ,and just as soon as I get his answers I will be on here to give them to you ;; Have a great day and tomorrow and GOD BLESS;; F.B.E.
Ps -I had put another post answer to you night before last ,but I don't what happen to it because I did not see it tonight ;::: F.B.E.

Clough
Feb 28, 2010, 03:47 PM
I'm not noting any missing posts, F.B.E. Was it on this thread or on another one?

Thanks!

Flying Blue Eagle
Feb 28, 2010, 07:50 PM
CLOUGH- IT was #12 ABOVE ,It's there tonight.last night when I saw your post to tim, I knew that mine was next when I wrote it the night before last SO I looked for it but could not find it It's there now ,BUT Thsank you for looking for it ,I just wondered , I like your little ending sayings,they are cute.;;YOU AL have a great night and a better tomorrow;AndGOD BLESS ::F.B.E.

timcress100
Mar 1, 2010, 09:50 PM
To F.B.E. This is timcress100 again.I was just wandering if you had anymore info about my half-shekel? Please reply at your convienience.

Flying Blue Eagle
Mar 12, 2010, 08:37 PM
Timcress100-Well I got a certain book in the mail to day I will be looking what I need to get for you and
Check on how to send it with email [pictures HEresstarti COINS first started in 700 BC , BY this time it was either the Chinese or thr Lydians, no one is really sure which was firstthen the Lydians began to grow wealthy
And it spread to the east wards toward , the PERsians and westword toward the GREEKS.Although the lydians were conquered by the Persians about 550 BC ,then the first coins had reached the HOLY LAND
Itself,brought by traders from GREECETHEN by the 5th/ century B C coins become widespread throughout the ancient world. The first proper coins minted in the holyland ,come from the city {GAZA}
TIM ,I'm going to have to finish this tomorrow ,IM about wore out from all day at doctors office, I'm just glad to have the information that I needed:: IM learning from this also because I never got into the anceint coins this much,so I am enjoying this very much , Good night ,Have a great day tomorrow and GOD BLESS ::F.B.E.

timcress100
Mar 12, 2010, 11:37 PM
That`s it? I have`nt been on the computer for a while, but I was expecting a little more information. I would still like information on this coin I have. I think you still have the decriptions of my coin on your computer.Bowl shaped,not round,Melgart and Eagle .Eagle seems like it has 1 wing on right side. I would really appreciate any information! Tim Cress [email protected]

Flying Blue Eagle
Mar 14, 2010, 11:05 PM
TimCress100-I'M sorry you feel that way , When I got home from doctors and checked mail box the book I have been waiting for was in there; I oppened it and started reading threw it to get information out to send to you and I wrote and gave you some of it ,and said I would give you more tonight I have been reading the book again tonight since we got home, and we got home between 10 and 11 and here it is five after 1am;; I will get it done tomorrow; Have a good night ,GOD BLESS F,B,E.

Clough
Mar 14, 2010, 11:24 PM
Are you able to post any images of the coin from your book, Flying Blue Eagle?

Thanks!

Flying Blue Eagle
Mar 16, 2010, 09:09 PM
CLOUGH- Answer to your questio- not yet I am trying to work it out to where I can;; on this new internet system I have ;I now have the atthigh speed internetand I have noticed that in a couple different places about doing it ;; I was going to give [Tim Cress100}the rest of the answers he wants tonight but it looks like I won't be able to tonightand vI feel bad about it because I wrote him last night and told him I would , I hope he forgives me because I'm going tio try to get the rest to him tomorrow nightCLOUGH ,I hope that this post finds you doing a lot better; IM doing fair , last night my blood pressure got pretty high and all I was doing at the time was sitting and eating supperand my right side of my nose started sqirting blood out; doctor deeminng said that it is like a relief valve on sa hiot water tank ; a couple years ago they had to cartirize it four times ,well I'm doing better tonight ;;Take care and YOU have a better day tomorrow ;AND GOD BLESS;; F.B.E.

Flying Blue Eagle
Mar 16, 2010, 09:49 PM
TIM CRESS100- The mint mark is susposed to be a letter like our ( M )
And it is to the right CLOSETIO THE BOTTOM< ALSO on the tyre shekels the club was also the mint mark ,witch was the faverote weapon of the GOD _HERCULESThe eariler coins had symboles that were religis and between the feet of the eagle was the prow of a ship;;
Tim IM hopeing that I will have the final for you tomorrow night;; Have a great night and a better tomorrow and GOD BLESS:: F.B.E.

timcress100
Mar 18, 2010, 09:18 PM
To FBE,this is timcress100 again.I`m sorry I haven`t been on the computer for a couple of weeks.I hope your health is better.I`m grateful for all info on this half-shekel.Alot of the info I already knew.I wish I could send a picture of this coin,it is unique.I think.I was wandering,why is yours and Cloughs`spelling and punctuation is wrong?Too much information going out to fast?Trying to answer everything?Any information on my coin is appreciated!timcress100

Clough
Mar 19, 2010, 07:53 AM
Original poster has become belligerent.

Thread is now CLOSED.