We were only a couple days ago from being together for 1.5 year.

I met this girl during summer 2008. Both our grand parents were Dutch, and both moved to the US at one point in their lives. My uncle and aunt I was staying at were setting up a family dinner. My ex gf's grandmother was invited because my grandmother was in town. A couple days before that day, my grandmother called her's and invited her to the dinner too. So basically they were setting me up to meet her.

At that moment I was living in Holland, and I was on vacation in the US. I just got my dual citizenship before my trip, because I was already planning to move to the US one day in my life.

Ok back to that family dinner, we hardly talked. I'm a pretty shy person with that stuff. She was 18 and I was 22 during that dinner. However a day later she called the house, and asked me if I wanted to go out with her. Of course I was excited for that, I didn't know anyone of my age around. She picked me up a couple days later, as soon as I opened the front door, I knew enough. Believe me or not but I felt something right away. We drove to the beach, had a nice dinner together, and walked for a little bit on the beach. We felt super comfortable from the start. That night we had a really personal conversation until 3AM. She told she never felt this comfortable before, and would have never told other people this stuff, she didn't even tell her best friends most of what she told me.
The next day we went to the beach. I felt so in love, and wanted to ask her if she liked me too, since I was leaving the country within a couple day. She said 'yes' right away. We had dinner together with my family again that night, and it felt we were botfriend, girlfriend right away. That night we went to a mall, Dave and Busters, and saw a movie. After that we sat down at a fountain and we talked about what our feelings were.
Two days later she came over, and we had to say goodbye. I was sick to my stomach that I had to leave, and she hated it too. She was my first love ever, and I was her's.

The next period was a period of 3 months were we talked for countless of hours on Skype. We had so much fun on SKype, and fell in love more and more. Three months later I decided to go back. I stayed at my uncles again, and she basically moved in together for three weeks. We didn't want to say goodbye again, because this felt meant to be for both of us. She came with me to Holland for a month. We had an amazing time, she felt super comfortable with my family, unlike she is with her own family. Her parents divorced when she was 12. She lived with her dad, they had and have a terrible relationship.

A month later I already had a trip planned to Vegas with a friend. I booked a flight for my GF, and we stayed at a really nice hotel for 5 days. It was so amazing what we had. We both were super sad when we had to say goodbye again. We both were head over heels.
I visited her two more times that year, I planned one trip for a month, and the second one was for three weeks.
Then I finally moved to the states. I moved in to my uncle and aunt's house, only 10 min away from where she lives. We were together every single day, we were addicted to each other a, and had so much fun.

After being there for 4 months we both came to Holland, to visit my family. This month was for me to say goodbye to my family and my country. We were planning to move in together in June. Because that was the month we were about to move to Vegas, where she is going to study.
She left Holland after 12 days, because she had to work for the Olympics in Vancouver. Everything was still the same, we were head over heels, she wrote me the nicest things, we were so close, and comfortable. We would overcome to be with each other for a month, since we did three before. She left some stuff for me to bring back since her suitcase was full. She also left a really nice letter, and she left a Valentine's gift.
When she got back home we skyped every single day(4 in total), until she had to go to Vancouver.
My family and friends in Holland were so happy for me, my whole future was planned out, and we were about to move in. I was the happiest person in the world, I never was never this happy before in my life as the last year and a half. And she felt the same way.

She was really busy in Vancouver, and we didn't really had time to talk. She sent me this super nice email three days before she broke up, saying that she loves me so much, and that she will always be my baby, forever.
Three days later we planned to skype that morning at 7am in the morning for me. I was so excited I woke up at 4am, turned on my laptop and waited for her to be back in her apartment. At 8 she still wasn't there. I got so worried, she is not the type of person who would not let me know she couldn't make it. I got so frustrated, because I was so excited to talk. Then finally she was there at around 10am. I got mad at her she didn't let me know and hung up. Then I texted her stupid stuff how she think about herself and not me etc.

Then she sent me this super long text message that it's over. I freaked out and called her right away. She said again it's over. I asked her for the reason, and she tells me that she wasn't really in love the last 4 months anymore. She admitted she lied to herself, she was in love, because she didn't want to lose me. I begged her to take her words back. I freaked out, my future was planned to be with her, I just shipped all my stuff and was mentally ready to move to Vegas with her. The next two days I tried to contact her all the time. I know, all the things you have to avoid, but very logically I think. I didn't find this website yet.

She is super cool to me at the moment, and she makes it sound like I did something wrong. I don't know this side of her, I don't think she has this side. But is just acting so cruel to protect herself and keep her strong. A little bit of understanding how I feel from her side would make it so much easier.

I thought about the situation so much the last days. I'm talking to my parents, sister and other family non stop.


I have a couple questions/comments about the situation;
- The day she broke up, she asked me to be her best friend, she wants to be able to call me anytime. She told me I'm the most amazing person she have ever met. Does that mean she doesn't want to lose me.
- We decided that we can still hang out when we are back home, she made it clear 'only as friends'. For me hanging out means: there is a chance we will be back together.
- I think a person is not able to act in love for such a long time when that person is not really in love. Every one told us how our eyes were shining on every singe picture, and every single day. And only I know how awesome our relation was, every single day.
- I still don't know what really made her do this, and she felt/is feeling
- I don't think it was planned at all, because why would you sent an email saying such nice things 3 days before the break up.
- Maybe she met someone, but she was only 2 days there.
- A couple reasons in my mind she could have broke up: she freaked out she was going to move in together and is only 19. Maybe a whole new world opened up for her in Vancouver. Either way, it's really extreme to break up right away imo.

A lot of things don't rhyme together, and that's why I can't stop analyzing it. The fact she is saying she wasn't in love for the last 4 months is really something I just can't believe. I know how we were every single day, other people confirm that we looked so in love together.


I will be moving back the 27th of February. She will be home march 3rd. Every one tells me I have the right to have a conversation, to find what have really happened. But I'm in my NC period right now. What to do when I get back?

How I feel: still in love and I still think she is an amazing girlfriend. To be honest I would love to see myself back with her on my side one day.

Words are cheap my friend... anyone can tell you they love.. but showing it... living it.. is another story in itself

You guys had an awesome few months together it seems, but if you guys are to brake up over something like this.. was it really meant to me? Really? Is love a word that is use only when times are good? And everythin is going?

Or is it used when even in the worst of times even in doubt.. you still love and want to be with that person.

You know what it is.. my advice Go no contact with her and let her make the bed she made for herself.


And I know you are probable oh no our love was pure it was one of a kind we wanted to be together forever it was written in the heavens..

Sadly we all feel like that.. but the hard truth is we all need to learn when to let go.and when something is not worth fighting
And she or this relationship is not in my view


All the best

Regards

When you get dumped you don't stay friends on their terms,you go no contact,and that means no Scype,no texting or mailing and no phone calls.
No contact means that as for all they know you've dropped off the face of the Earth.

I'd sorry this happened to you,and yes it sucks,but now you start looking after yourself and begin healing from the breakup.

Read the stickies at the top of the relationship page for good advice.

Thanks for the replies.

She left a voicemail message, saying that she called me to just ask how I'm doing, and she hopes my family can make me feel a little bit better.

I have three questions:
- Should I text and tell her I'm in my healing process and don't want her to call me? Or just ignore this, and go on?
- Should I sit down with her when we are both back home. She would like to explain herself why she broke up. Will this conversation help me in my healing process?

My last question, I know people think this is not important and should not think about it. I think it can help in my healing process, so please answer it.
- She was super cool 2 days ago, and not caring anymore. This is normal, I read to many times that this is a standard phase someone goes through after breaking up. The fact that she left me a message, does that means she cares about how I feel? Or can someone leave a message like that just because they think that's what they're suppose to do(so without any feelings?).

Thanks!

Once they've dumped you I think you should just go no contact and there is,in my book,no need to announce that fact to them.

I've no idea why she left that message.my guess and that's only a guess,would be that she probably is a decent person who hopes you are OK.

As for having a talk face to face about the breakup in the future,don't worry about that now,concentrate on you and restarting your life again.

Thanks for your reply again. I was asking that question, because we are going to be back home in three weeks. She only lives 10 min away, and we kind of already decided to talk.

I think that conversation will not help me, since she will say the same things. Some people tell me, I might need that conversation to help me process everything.

The only one who can process anything or achieve closure is you.
Why have a conversation which probably will only set you back? Nobody else can do that for you,never mind how many times you discuss it.

She has said it all already,you don't need to hear it again.

The sad thing is that people's feelings change and there is nothing we can do about that except get on with our lives and be happy with ourselves.

Today I'm having a hard day. I don't have a super hard time not to contact her, probably because I know we are going to see each other in 3 weeks from now.

I just don't feel like I want to give up on her. I understand that I should not contact her the next 3 weeks, I'm pretty sure I can do that.
However, I don't just want to say, I don't want to see you anymore, because I'm in the middle of my healing process.
When I think about her I feel butterflies in my stomach, then why should I give up on that?

Is it bad that I'm thinking this; we can leave each other alone for the next 3 weeks. Then we both will be home again, then I want to find out if there is still hope. If not, I don't have another option than to accept it. But right now I feel like she can change when she is back home again, doing her daily thing. I'm positive there is a good chance she will miss me, and maybe even want to be with me because she does love me.

The day she broke up with me, we decided to see what happens when we are back again... this feels like hope.

I should not do this forever, because not giving up when you know for sure she doesn't want you back, that will kill me, I understand that.

You give up on that feeling because she gave up on you. You are looking at this from the wrong way, you see it as in 3 weeks you see her and hope you can change her mind. Meanwhile you will be 3 weeks into your healing and when you see her it will be back to day 1 and the feelings all start again.

I totally understand what you mean. But I'm not planning to change her mind. I really hope once she is doing her daily thing again(school etc), she will realize what she really wants, and maybe that will be me.
Right now she is in Vancouver and working 16 hours a day, so there is not really time for her to think about her decision.

Of course the chance is way bigger that she will think the same as she is right now. But as long I still have a (decent) chance, I would hate to throw my hope away. I think I won't be able to.

I told myself and other people that her first reaction once she see's me will tell me enough.

I understand that the regulars on this forum heard hundreds of stories like this before.
I know my ex girlfriend, was really insecure, nervous about the financial part of moving to Las Vegas, her parents are divorced, and her dad is a horrible person. There is so much going on in her life, that maybe it was just an impulsive reaction. And maybe not, I understand that.

Pfff what a tough situation...

We have all been in these situations, look at my old posts, I was in the same boat, my ex left me and I held onto hope, typical myspace status messages and if I saw her looking depressed I got excited thinking she missed me. I went NC and never looked back and now am engaged and a lot happier

- The day she broke up, she asked me to be her best friend, she wants to be able to call me anytime. She told me I'm the most amazing person she have ever met. Does that mean she doesn't want to lose me.
As a friend without the romantic attachments, or any kind of commitment for anything other than friendship.

- We decided that we can still hang out when we are back home, she made it clear 'only as friends'. For me hanging out means: there is a chance we will be back together.
Thats the way you see it, but be aware that she doesn't. This is know as false hope.

- I think a person is not able to act in love for such a long time when that person is not really in love. Every one told us how our eyes were shining on every singe picture, and every single day. And only I know how awesome our relation was, every single day.
Glad you enjoyed the time you spent but its fairly obvious now that you were more emotionally invested than she was.

- I still don't know what really made her do this, and she felt/is feeling
Either she was having fun, enjoying your company, or you were thinking that she felt as strong as you did. Either you got carried away and swept up, or she was not being honest and telling you what you wanted to hear to keep you around.
- I don't think it was planned at all, because why would you sent an email saying such nice things 3 days before the break up.
Maybe she realized she had better come clean now.

- Maybe she met someone, but she was only 2 days there.
I doubt it, but for sure she decided what you wanted, a life together, wasn't what she wanted.

In light of the things that have happened, I would leave her alone for an awful long time, and go about my own plans without her being a part of them.

When the shock wears off maybe you will be able to see things differently, and with a clear head.

Accept you have been dumped!!! It sucks, but it happens all the time, and you need some time to make the right adjustments.

- I think a person is not able to act in love for such a long time when that person is not really in love. Every one told us how our eyes were shining on every singe picture, and every single day. And only I know how awesome our relation was, each and every single day.
Glad you enjoyed the time you spent but its fairly obvious now that you were more emotionally invested than she was.

- I still don't know what really made her do this, and she felt/is feeling
Either she was having fun, enjoying your company, or you were thinking that she felt as strong as you did. Either you got carried away and swept up, or she was not being honest and telling you what you wanted to hear to keep you around.
- I don't think it was planned at all, because why would you sent an email saying such nice things 3 days before the break up.
Maybe she realized she had better come clean now.

Talaniman and other thanks for your replies.

@Talaniman, she still tells me that everything she told me, and everything she wrote, is what she was feeling at that moment. Even though she fooled herself, that is what she felt.

Now you would think, she did that to make me feel better, because maybe she still cares about me. But that doesn't make sense, since she was super cruel and hard for a couple days. She showed me that she didn't care at all how I feel. Now the reason why she probably was so cruel, is to protect her, so she would not break down herself in Vancouver.

Whether she acts cool as to not break down in Vancouver is irrelevant.

Whatever a person says,unless its backed up by actions which prove the point is also irrelevant.

Time to let go of all false hope and look at her actions.

Whether or not she acts cool as to not break down in Vancouver is irrelevant.

Whatever a person says,unless its backed up by actions which prove the point is also irrelevant.

Time to let go of all false hope and look at her actions.
That's the whole thing. She says she wasn't in love for like 4 to 6 months, but her actions shows the opposite.

You got fooled, or she is lying. Doesn't matter, but now be aware how your trying to pick apart every detail, looking for a crumb of understanding. Thats what we do when we are shocked, and hurt. Let it go.

I had a really good morning. I slept OK for the first time, and felt decent.

Right now, it's 2.30PM and I feel my body changing again. What a horrible feeling.
It's so tempting to text her.
Is it really impossible to heal, and be in contact with her at the same time? I know I should give up already, but I think it will be almost impossible for me to start healing, before I hear it from her when I'm sitting across from her.

So in my eyes I will start my healing process when I see her, and she tells me the same thing in my face. So why would I care about not texting her right now...

Please advice.

Your head knows that you should stay no contact.
Now get your heart around that fact.

What would meeting up and hearing the same things again achieve?
Nothing,except prolonging your healing process and reopening your wounds.

In her 'breaking up' texts she told me, she gave up a lot, and couldn't be herself. I have no idea what she means, and I even think she says that to give it more power.

I think I need answers to questions like that to be able to process it completely.

I can imagine that unanswered questions can bother me later in my life(or even next month)

It is bothersome not knowing the truth, but you would be wise to heal properly before you hear it. Then at least you have a chance at understanding what you hear, and can be objective.

Right now, your everything but objective, or able to understand.

I feel a tiny bit better every single day. However I have my ups and downs every single day, and the downs are horrible. What a horrible feeling!

Last night I woke up 4 times. All 4 times I was back with my GF. Then when you wake up, you feel horrible again, because the dreams are so real and intense.

I'm having a hard time not to text her, but so far I didn't.

Sometimes I'm thinking, it's OK to send her a text. I'm going to see her in 3 weeks anyway. I just can't not see her when were back in California. I don't have anything there. No friends or nothing. That's because I moved to the states only 4 months ago, and we were always together.

I have to buy a car asap, so I can really start my own life.

In two weeks I have to say goodbye to my family and country. I felt totally fine doing that, but now that she broke up it will be really hard and emotionally. They supported me so much, I've talked for hours and hours with my parents and sister. I'm going to be all by myself(except uncle and aunt who will supoort me a little bit). I'm kind of scared for this...

You should concentrate on getting a social life as soon as you get back to the States or reconsider your decision and not going back.

It's never a good thing when one person is your whole world,you need friends and hobbies and a life that's your own.

As for feeling a bit better every day,that's good and don't fall into the trap of texting her.

Your dreams are normal at this stage and they will lessen with time.

Make sure you stay as busy as possible and do the things you enjoy doing.

I agree with what you're saying, but it's not really my fault. I recently moved from Europe to the US. I was planning to really start my own social life once we would be moving to Vegas(in June). I was also planning to buy a car then. I was fine with the situation for the time being, and would never expected her to end it so suddenly.

Anyway, I will have to start from the bottom right now. I'm not going to school, and I'm self employed.

I guess I will start by joining a tennis club...

Any other suggestions, since I'm really nervous about this matter...

Do you play any other sports?
Join all the clubs you can think of.
Volunteering is a good way to get to know people and do something to help others.
Get to know people who share your line of work.

There are no quick fixes for making friends, you just have to go with what you have and what you enjoy.

It takes time to build a life that you enjoy, all by yourself, and that's the good part. So give it thought.

Update: Today my ex called me on skype. I answered the call, I haven't talked to her since the breakup in a normal way.

I asked how the Olympics are, and she told me it's awesome. Then I asked how she was feeling, and we started talking about everything. She broke down, and had tears in her eyes for almost the whole conversation(1.5 hour).

I told her I don't want to be friends, neither do I want to see her once we are back in California. Being friends is not going to work, I told her.

We kept talking about our feelings, and I was surprisingly really strong. I could tell she had a hard time, she felt guilty, and was in pain. And of course she still has feelings too.

I told her that Vancouver would be a perfect time to live our own lives, and then see what would happen in California. I blame her two thing:
1) she broke up texting me
2) she didn't talk about her feelings with me before, so we could have tried to make things better.

I told her what I can improve as a boyfriend in future relations, and I think I hit the nail on the head.

Anyway, we are going to meet on March 4th, because we both have a tiny bit of hope. I could not have lived with the fact of still having hope. I still think she broke up really fast.

We will see what happens. I hope you guys are not mad at me... If it won't work out, and I will be in the same pain, it's completely my own fault.

I will keep everyone up to date, since we all can learn so much from each others stories!

Thanks for all the support, and you guys will hear from me later:)

I'm not mad at you for being human.:-) It's not what I would have done ,nor would do, i.e. meet up,but you must do what you feel you need to do.
We all learn in different ways.
Update whenever you need to.
Good luck/veel geluk!

I really appreciate all the people who put in a lot of time and effort to help others! Hopefully one day I can do something back, and help others too.

You're welcome and I'm sure you can use your own experiences to help others-it's a very rewarding thing! :-)

Good luck with that "tiny" bit. Where does she live again?

I wonder why she had tears in her eyes. Guilt or true love. "I can't live w/o you"??

Plans, you know. The truth. Why wait?

You mean why wait for her?

Yup. You guys are young.

And in a whirlwind. Plus she told you all of those things, like the last 4 months she wasn't in love. Did you get that one?

Why wait for her to fly in so she can talk sweet, then blow you off?

Doesn't work that way. Skype. At least with her. How nice of you.

What's love? For me its knowing it & being sure. Are you sure?

I live in Vancouver. Quite a party here.

She doesn't want to be held down, loves the experiences. The excitement.

And you should too. There's way more.

Just want to give an update, since everybody on this forum was so helpful.

Ok, after that 2.5 hour skype conversation I broke down again. I saw my 'real' GF again, smiling, sensitive, and caring. To be honest, it felt good too, to see that she was having a really hard time too.
But the next days I had a really hard time staying strong. I felt so much pain inside.
After a couple days I felt more mad than sad. Until today I think she made a mistake by not letting me know how she felt the last 4 months. I know I deserved that, and maybe we could have changed some things. That she isn't in love anymore is OK, but acting for 4 months like you are head over heels, and not say anything about what's really going on, feels really bad.
There is one thing I really want to do, and I feel like I really have to do that before I can heal. And that is to let her know that I'm really disappointed in her not being honest about her feelings. I want to give her all her cards, letters, and promises back, just to let her know that she could have done things differently. She also worked really hard on a self made photo album, she is going to have a hard time seeing me giving it back to her.

After that I can really start healing.

I will keep updating every single time something new happens, because I know it can help other people.

Oh what also really sucks is that this is my last trip to Holland for a while. This was the month to have fun with my family, and to say goodbye to them in a nice way.

I'm lucky my family really supports me, and talked with me for hours and hours. But at the same time I feel bad for them, because they are all really down too.

Bad timing.

Though I can understand your anger and your feelings of having been strung along,its how you handle yourself now that will determine how you get over this.

Stop communicating with her-it sets your back.
Return,or bin her things and start the healing process by concentrating on yourself.

Spend your energy with people that truly love & support you, like your family.

And stop skyping with her.

After talking to her on skype I haven't talked to her. I'm also not planning too! I'm just going to meet her one more time to tell her my side of the story.

I feel it's time to speak up for myself this time, otherwise I will always regret that I never did.

Let me leave you with a final thought, as I know how down you are, but I think in the days, and weeks ahead as you get your feet back under you, try not to be so hard of the one that dumped you.

That's right, just think of being in their shoes a minute, and being caught up in lovely emotions. Then imagine your feelings changing for that partner you have shared so much with.

You think its easy to tell someone you no longer feel the same way? Trust me, its not. And until you have been on that side of a break up, you will never know what she went through, for how long, and even how she may have fought herself to reach the decision she did.

Not trying to defend her actions in the least, but just stating facts you will see later for yourself, as it may have been true she should have honestly communicated her thoughts, and feelings, much sooner or much clearer, but she didn't, and you didn't notice any differences either. We seldom do, and that's why most relationships end, because of not enough communications, and both partners being unwilling to do what it takes to make each other happy.

It happens with humans all the time and is a main reason couples, married or not have relationships fail.

So see this as a learning experience on your journey through life, and don't get down on yourself, or anybody else for their shortcomings. Healing is much easier, when you can acknowledge the faults of yourself, and others.

Its never just you or them. We humans can mess up anything and generally we do. Just move ahead, and don't look back.

An old friend who was on this site was fond of saying "you have to kiss a lot of frogs, before one turns into your Prince/princess."

I find that to be very true so keep the chap stick handy for the next time, and even the next time, after that.

I can get a bit long winded, I know.

Believe me or not but I really understand how hard it was for her. I still defend her to anyone who says something bad about her. That's just my character, if I care about someone, I will defend that person no matter what.

My situation is just a little bit different to other stories. I moved to the other side of the world 5 months ago for us. Before I moved, I flew out 4 times that year to visit her. I also bought a ticket for her to come with me to Holland and we had an awesome time with my family. I also had to deal with her family who made it really hard for us to enjoy our relation. Sometimes it was very frustrating that plans changed last minute etc.

I'm not talking about money, but I did so much for her. The only I thing I expected her to do was to be honest to me, communicate with me about her feelings, and even after she broke up I would expect her to ask me once in a while if I was OK.

I still love her so much, and care a lot about this girl. But I also want to let her know what she did to me, and that she should have done it in a different way.

Now I was thinking today, maybe I don't even want to meet her on March 4th. That's the day after she comes back from the Olympics. I kind of want to tell her it doesn't make any sense to meet up. But I know that I'm just going to say this to give myself a good feeling, since I know she really wants to end our relation in a nicer way then she did before.

Your feeling is right,why meet up'to give her a chance to break up in a nicer way'?

She already broke up with you,what's the point of opening up the wound and in my opinion over the same old again?

Listen to your head,not your heart.

Yes, that's breaking up all over again.

It will set you back & hurt you double.

Kevin.

I feel for you, I really do.

I know all too well about the jetting & jetting out.

She's letting loose and your feeling like crap.

Once reality soaks in for her & comes back, she's been thing on how to scramble. Be your pal is her agenda, have that when it works for her.

Please don't be that guy. These girls need their space. Give it to her.

If you do that & NC, you will walk away proud and stronger.

I know you can.

Thanks vanheart!

Last night I met with a bunch of old friends from Holland, we played some poker, and talked about random stuff. I had a good time, but last night I slept really bad. I woke up several times, and dreamed a lot about my ex.

I feel so angry inside. This whole situations is so frustrating. She broke up in the worst possible way. But she is having fun in Vancouver, and has a lot of distraction. I'm here stuck in Holland in so much pain. And it seems like she doesn't even care. I really hope she will feel what I feel, or at least a little bit when she is back home doing her daily thing again.

When I'm back I need to tell her how she made me feel, and I'm going to tell her that I'm really disappointed in her. I also want to say that the last 4 months were not worth anything to me anymore. I know she is not going to like this, and that's why that will give me a little bit of satisfaction. If I'm not going to tell her my frustrations, I will have to carry this with me the rest of my life, and that seems way worse than breaking down again.

BY you telling her you are really disappointed in her, THAT IS TELLING HER THAT YOU ARE FRUSTRATED!
Instead of telling her anything bad like that, which will just make her think she made the right decision more and more. I would tell her that you completely understand why she wanted to break up and that you think it is the best for both of you as well. Trust me, this approach works 10 times better than trying to make her feel guilty(because she won't anyways)
This approach makes her wonder, why is he all of a sudden all fine with this break up? And then you will be on her mind all the time, and she will be rethinking A lot!

I understand this will work for most people. In the last email my ex sent to me, she told me to be strong, and do fun things with my family and friends. So it really seems like she cares how I feel, I think she would feel guilty if she knew how I was feeling. She also adores my family, and she would hate it if they would be mad/disappointed in her.

I know I should focus on myself, but believe me, I am. That's why I'm trying to figure out what the best way to tell her is, to give myself a little bit of a good feeling.

Right now I feel different than earlier today. I'm still super down and nauseous, but right now I feel like sending her an email letting her know I don't want to meet with her, because I'm too disappointed in her.

In our last Skype conversation I told her it would be better not to meet, and I also told her I was going to delete her Facebook. She kind of freaked out a little bit, she still loves to see pic's of me and my family.

I don't know anymore what the best thing to do is. I just want her to feel a little bit bad too.

Duh she freaked out! Because right now you are her little puppy dog. You have already tried pleaing with her, and asking why and why. It never worked. When you reject them, it often brings them crawling back. By you acting strong, and her not seeing you weak over this break up, IT WILL MAKE HER FEEL BAD! It will make her feel like she made the wrong decision, it will make her wonder about you, and COME TO YOU!
IF this girl cares as MUCH as you say she does. She will come to you, if you truly tell her that you understand why she broke up with you and agree that is was best. And then delete her off your Facebook. And do NC.
Start right now by doing NC, then in 2 weeks time, shoot her a e-mail telling her that you completely understand why she wanted to break up, and that you agree it was for the best for both of you.
Then wait for her reply. Whatever you do, do not talk to her about your guys relationship, ask her why she broke up, what happened, how she could just stop loving you. Nothing like that, nothing out of your mouth should be negative. Everything should be positive and seem to her that you are well and happy.
I dare u to try it, you have nothing else to lose.

You're not focusing on you when you're still thinking about what you should be doing as regards her.

Go NC for your own sake,and forget about wanting your ex to feel bad.

Start thinking about how to make you feel better and eventually happy again.

Sorry amicon, I can't just focus on myself before doing 'something'. I have to do something, before I can let it rest.

I'm just not sure if I can send her a positive email. It will kill me, If she will be like 'ok cool'.

I'm leaning more towards an email saying that I don't want to meet, without really going into details.

Write them down first Kevin (your feelings and frustrations), then walk away, and come back in an hour or so and see what you have written. I hope you let us know about your feelings after this is done.

She has already demonstrated the fact that she is not going to say "OK good"
If you really want to make anything of this, you have to put your ego aside. Nothing really bad happened in this relationship other than distance, hence why you can't stop thinking about this and why and what happened.
These answers you are looking for, she is never going to give you, she may not even really know herself. It's a waste of time and will only cause more grief than good

As I said before, I will update my situation regularly until it really ends:)

I wrote a letter to my ex a couple days ago. That was on the first day I started getting really mad at her actions. I think that letter is way too negative, even though everything in it I still mean.

However I just wrote another email, a really short one. I'm telling her that we should not meet back in California, and that I respect her decision. I also tell her that I thought our relation was healthy enough to tell me about her feelings. And in the last part I tell her that all her cards, letters, promises, nice words etc are not worth anything anymore.

I will reread it tonight, and then make a decision if I'm going to send it.

Talaniman Rant, Not to be taken personally

You young guys really do have a hard time just chalking things up to experience and moving on to the next challenge! No, all you know is what your feeling, which is angry, frustrated, and hurt, and want every freaking body to know it. ( Its called throwing a hissy fit, because you didn't get what you want ) Kids have the luxury of doing that (not without consequences, and they really don't like that!), but MEN, ARE REALLY EXPECTED TO KNOW BETTER THAN TO THROW HISSY FITS, because the consequences are greater, and should be mature enough to know they can't always have what they want, when they want it.

Men are EXPECTED to cope with their feelings much better than a child that doesn't know better YET!).

There are better ways to deal with your feelings besides throwing a hissy fit, so find them.

End of rant!

All your doing right now, is making her hate the thought of you, she will dread seeing you and anything about you.
You got to remember she broke up with you! SHe is going to expect you to be angry, so this isn't going to hurt her , even though in her head you think she is different and it will.
By acting like nothing about the break up bothers you, and be nice to her, and not bring up anything to do with your relationship or break up, this will confuse her deeply

I admit that I don't know how to cope with my feeling at the moment. I'm not embarrassed about it, since this was my first love.

I'm still going to send her an email. I made it even shorter, I'm telling her I respect her decision, to follow her dreams, and good luck with everything.

Don't send her anything right now! Just go NC, let things settle, show her your serious about NC

Do you expect a reply, or response? If you do, don't send it. This is where you have to be honest with yourself. How would no response make you feel?

That's why people send things to other people is to get a response, so how would you really feel if she didn't?


dont send her anything right now! just go NC, let things settle, show her ur serious about NC
Its irelevant to try and show someone your serious about NC. You have to show yourself your serious about healing by going NC!

The subtle difference is HUGE.

I deleted my ex a couple days ago from my Facebook account. I felt really proud.

I just logged in to my FB account and my ex wrote me a message, she said; I was just wondering why you deleted me, if that's what you need to do, just wondering.

When I saw that I had a message from my ex, my heart went crazy, and my whole body start feeling weird. I feel like this healing process is going to take a long, long time! :(

Greated start.

The more you stay NC, the easier it gets.

See, the only reason your heart went crazy is because you read that message.

When I saw that I had a message from my ex, my heart went crazy,
That's something you pay attention to. How your reacting to ANY kind of contact.

I just logged in to my FB account and my ex wrote me a message, she said; I was just wondering why you deleted me, if that's what you need to do, just wondering.
Reply to this with a simple YES, and delete her completely.

I feel like this healing process is going to take a long, long time!
Yes its hard, and does take a long time sometimes. Depends on how willing you are to do what it takes, to learn to cope with your feelings.

Update:
Last Wednesday my ex flew back to California, I arrived last Saturday. That day I talked to her on the phone, and it seemed like she still didn't change, she was acting pretty cold. On Thursday I saw her online, and started talking to her, she was still acting the same. But then all of a sudden she says: 'Do you want to work out in the park?'. Without thinking about it, I said yes right away. I wanted to know if she would really act this cold in person.

I arrived at the park before her. When I saw her car, my heart went crazy. When she stepped out of her car my heart started bouncing even faster. She walked up to me, and opened her arms. She gave me a kiss and hugged me. It felt so good, to finally see her in real life again. I have a new car, so we sat down in it, and I showed her everything.

Then we went for a walk, and after a couple of minutes we started talking about our relationship, and what went wrong. In short, she was really not happy the way we were acting lately. She told me, she tried for so long, but nothing made it better. I understand what she is talking about, even though the way we were, didn't bother me that much. I told her she should have communicated with me, and she admitted that she should have done that.

In the mean time we sat down on a table. We hugged, cried, and talked some more. Then it got pretty cold, and we went to my car. We stayed in my car for another 2 hours. I was rubbing her back and neck, we were pretty intimate. Then she says: 'can I try something? Close your eyes'. She started kissing me... Not too long after that we went home.

Today I had to pick something up from her house. We ended up going to another park. We talked, kissed and hugged again...

Tomorrow which would be our 'official' meet up day after the break up, we are going to meet around 10am. We are going to give our stuff back to each other, and spend the day till 4pm.

That's the situation.

Besides her actions, she keeps telling me that she doesn't want to be in a relation at the moment. She wants to have freedom, what she really missed when we were together(she never communicated this with me). There is still a lot of chemistry between us when we are together. She also tells me that when she is not with me, she realizes that is better not to be in a relation right now, she is really confused.

I told her I can't be friends with her. Then she said, can we just date, and start slowly from there. It's not what I want, but if that is our only chance...

The thing that hurts me most, is that there are so many things that we can change to make our relation so much better than before. They are relatively easy to fix problems. Of course I can give her way more freedom now, she made me realize the hard way. That's just one example.

I wish we could make a restart, but it seems like that will be too early for her. At the same time I'm scared, I will get hurt again. She controls everything right now, and that's not a good feeling.

But I also know that me giving up is not realistic, something I can't, and don't want.

Confusing situation...

And while your still confused, she made sure you knew that you were dumped.

I told her I can't be friends with her. Then she said, can we just date, and start slowly from there. It's not what I want, but if that is our only chance...
From around the other side of the world? Come on guy, even you can see that calls for you to stay in her life, when she has time for you. NO DEAL!

The thing that hurts me most, is that there are so many things that we can change to make our relation so much better than before.
Sure it is if she was willing to work on it with you, but obviously, she doesn't.

Then she says: 'can I try something? Close your eyes'. She started kissing me... Not too long after that we went home.
Just like hooking a fish, you will never forget those kisses, makes you remember what your missing.

Talaniman Rule- While they are dumping you, never say you can't be friends. Agree to whatever she wants, then disappear from their life.

What advice would you give her?

Her brain tells her she can only solve her problems when she is not in a relation. But at the same time when she is with her ex, she feels in love and wants to be with him.

I think that, working on the relation together is the best option. Solve all the problems together. If that's not working, it's over.

But you're not working on your problems together.

She broke up with you and she s saying she can't be in a relationship.

She keeps you hanging on by going all kissy-kissy and talking about dating.

Tal is right,disappear from her life.

Accept that its over, start healing and start working on your new life.

She hasn't asked me for advice, so she doesn't need it, or yours for that matter.

Have you disappeared yet?

You are doing ALL of the wrong things.

What are we chopped liver? Are you familiar with that saying?

At some point you are going to realize its over. Slap yourself in the face. Don't prolong that much more.

She's not your end, just the beginning.

She's doesn't want what you want. That's OK. That's life.

Ok it's time for an update.

After my ex came back from the Olympics, we saw each other 6 days in a row. She wanted to see if there were still feelings, I didn't want to give up before I knew for sure.
Last Wednesday we decided to go on a real date. We dressed up, and were ready to have a good night. We went to dinner, and after dinner she grabbed my hand, and we walked around for a little bit. Then we went somewhere to have coffee, we had a super good conversation. We were solving our issues from before. She also admitted that she felt amazing again, the night before she even told me that she missed and loved me.

Then it was time for me to tell her to make a decision. I told her she is not going to have a stronger feeling for me than she had at that time. I explained her it wouldn't make sense to wait any longer. She told me she can't do it.

These are the reason why it doesn't work anymore for us:
- She is not ready to be in a relationship, she wants in dependence
- We had some stupid arguments the last couple months, and can't handle that anymore
- She wouldn't be able to give everything she had, and then wouldn't be fair to me.

Thanks guys for all the help!

I did not regret what I did, now I know for sure. Now I'm ready to move on. I'm excited to meet new people. At the same time I'm kind of nervous too, because I hardly know anyone yet, and I'm not the best person to start talking to random people. I know I can keep a conversation running, it's just the first step.

Anyway, I will be fine:)

Thanks again!

Good luck and I know you'll be fine.
Take good care of yourself.

Well, that took a lot of courage.

Found out what you probably already knew, just needed to hear it.

Good, man.

Now the world is your oyster.

Thanks for your message vanheart.

I don't agree with you. I didn't know that this would happen. I understand the chance of getting back together was really really small, and that is what I knew:)

All that matters is what you know now.

However you see it, you're free to do what ever you want.

Just like her.

Ok another update. I'm kind of embarresed to tell you guys, but here we go:

I thought it was really over about me and my ex, but for some reason we decided to go to the beach yesterday. This morning I went over to her house, she slept in my arms, and we had sex afterwards.

After I took a shower I checked my phone, and saw that she had been checking my inbox. She was downstairs for a while, and I decided to check her inbox too, since I felt all the time there was something going on. And of course I found text messages from this guy who she met in Vancouver. It was obvious that something was going on. When I confronted her, she didn't know what to do. Finally she told me everything, she had sex with this guy in Canada, and she is in love with this guy. Tomorrow she was planning to go to San Fransisco to see him.

Anyway instead of working on our relationship, and building something back up again, she was just using me. She told me today she couldn't let go of me for some reason.

I have to admit that until now I'm pretty strong, I hope this stays the same. It sucked to find that out, but at the same time there are no doubts anymore.

What I've learned from the last year and a half, is that you just can't know someone completely that fast. I never thought she could be this bad, like not at all. But now it's kind of obvious that this lying part of her, is just part of her character. She lied before about other stuff too.

Anyway, I guess 'no contact' for real now.

I'm kind of scared I will hit a wall later today, let's hope for the best:)

Thanks guys (and girls:))

Its on you.

How long do you want to keep being used and posting about your continued mistakes?

And how she lies.

That wall your going to hit is your own doing. Not hers.

Stop being a wuss.

I hope that was the final wakeup call.

Are you ready to do NC proper now?

Man... this reads like a horror novel.

You watch... when this long distance thing doesn't work out with the guy she's hooking up with you'll be the back-up plan. Hope by then you get fed up enough, and grow a pair, to tell her that you're not interested.

Believe me guys, this was it for me. I guess I had to find out the real hard way.

I will post again, once I will be even more happy with someone else:)

Good luck.
Make sure you are completely over her before you become involved with somebody else.

Amicon, I know that is pretty important.
Don't worry, I don't know anyone here yet, and I find it really hard to make friends. So I guess that will be my first objective, making friends! :)

I hate being alone at the moment, I feel like a loser when I walk outside by myself all the time. Hope that will change soon.

That's the hardest part about doing your own thing... figuring out what your thing is!

Time to figure it out, since the distractions are gone.

Oops.. I meant to say, 'I hate being by myself', and not 'I hate being myself'. I feel OK at the moment, so that's good. I just didn't sleep good at all, so many thoughts in my head.

Yeah I need to make some plans to meet new people. I'm trying to meet some people online who I can meet in real life. Hope that's going to work out.

Use this time to let yourself know that you don't "need" anything.

And yes, meet as many people in your life as you can. Not just girlfriend prospects.

Update: I'm feeling really good and strong. I mean sometimes, I realize how much she lied to me, and that makes me a little bit angry. But besides that I'm totally fine.

I already dated someone, and have another date planned for Friday.

Good luck everyone.

Good to hear. Its takes time.

Go on as many dates as you can, but make sure your heal from this one first before you jump into a relationship right away.

That's not fair to another person & to you, as well.

Good to know you're feeling better-just don't jump into a rebound relationship.

Heal first and that takes time.

Man the last couple days I miss my ex so much... She did so many things bad, and still I have the feeling of wanting to see her, or hear her voice.

Hard times...

It takes time. Ups & downs.

Read you last post:

"Update: I'm feeling really good and strong. I mean sometimes, I realize how much she lied to me, and that makes me a little bit angry. But besides that I'm totally fine."

The last two weeks I feel weaker than ever. I miss my ex a lot, I dream and think about her all the time.

I spent a weekend with another girl, but I couldn't enjoy at all since I can't stop thinking about my ex.

I sent her an email, and I got a text from her mom that she doesn't want to open any form of communication.

I feel like the only way to get over her is to either fall in love with another girl, so I realize that there are more girls around, or I really have to accept that she is gone for good, but that's easier said then done.

I feel like crap, and it sucks to feel like this.

I feel like the only way to get over her is to either fall in love with another girl, so I realize that there are more girls around, or I really have to accept that she is gone for good, but that's easier said then done.

Accept it as it may be hard, but works in time.

Replacing her with another hot body only makes it worse. It will pass if you let it, so stop holding on.

Before you tell us how hard it is, we already know that, but we do it any way.