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Bery
Feb 10, 2010, 07:07 AM
I would like to find a good way to record movies from Netflix, a Netflix Video Downloader which works well.
Any idea? I have already tried to download some movies with the add-on I'm downloading YouTube videos and didn't work.
Any help appreciated.

ScottGem
Feb 10, 2010, 07:39 AM
I'm not sure, but I suspect that would violate Netflix's contract. I'm also pretty sure it would be illegal.

smoothy
Feb 10, 2010, 07:48 AM
Haven't heard of any that work. You'd get better quality duplicating the DVD's anyway.

And in any case... THAt isn't legal since you don't own the originals.

Bery
Feb 10, 2010, 08:51 AM
Well, I definitely don't want to do something illegal, because if I wanted to break the law I'd use torrents, but I was thinking that if we are able to download YouTube videos, then we should be able to record live video streams from Netflix. But with that add-on I use for YouTube videos doesn't work and I also just found on Google that Netflix streams cannot be downloaded but juts captured. And I need a software which could capture Netflix live video streaming.

ScottGem
Feb 10, 2010, 08:54 AM
Read your contract with Netflix. I would be very surprised if it doesn't say that copying in any way is illegal. You are probably given a limited license to view the content through the streaming and no other way.

smoothy
Feb 10, 2010, 08:57 AM
I'm sure its an encrypted video stream which by its very design is meant to discourage capture. I haven't read the EULA but I'm certain that capturing that stream would violate the terms.

Because I have no doubt that was one of the restrictions placed upon them to be allowed to stream content by the studios that produced them.

Bery
Feb 11, 2010, 01:56 AM
Well, Netflix pointed out that is illegal to distribute, to upload and download and to use P2P file sharing. And I definitely don't want to share the movies I would capture from Netflix. It's just that I want to have them on my PC for later and offline playback.
If it there is a way to capture Netflix live video streaming, I wouldn't distribute it in any way.
Anyway, thank you for your answers

ScottGem
Feb 11, 2010, 04:56 AM
But, that is not what you are contracting for. Netflix is giving you a limited license to view the content. NOT to make a copy of it.

If you want to have the content for later viewing, but the DVD.

sandysuue
Feb 11, 2010, 05:40 AM
I don't think it's illegal to record Netflix movies.Maybe if one would especially recorded movies from Netflix just to post them on p2p websites and other portals on purpose then I would say it is indeed illegal.
But I don't really see what is wrong if you just record and save Netflix movies on the hard disk of you own personal PC for later viewing and you delete them of course in a couple of days when you have finished watching those movies...

smoothy
Feb 11, 2010, 06:42 AM
I don't think it's illegal to record Netflix movies.Maybe if one would especially recorded movies from Netflix just to post them on p2p websites and other portals on purpose then I would say it is indeed illegal.
But I don't really see what is wrong if you just record and save Netflix movies on the hard disk of you own personal pc for later viewing and you delete them of course in a couple of days when you have finished watching those movies...

You pay for a single viewing of that movie... if you read the Digital Copyright Millinium act you are allowed to creat a backup copy of a physical DVD you have purchaced... as long as the encryption scheme remains intact.

You have no such rights to streaming media. If you expect to have it physically at hand... buy the dvd.

Your argument isn't going to hold ANY water if you ever get dragged in front of the court for piracy.

Its obvious you don't care about breaking the law... so just flat out admit it... as an argument trying to justify it... you are making a really poor case.

ScottGem
Feb 11, 2010, 06:42 AM
I don't think it's illegal to record Netflix movies.Maybe if one would especially recorded movies from Netflix just to post them on p2p websites and other portals on purpose then I would say it is indeed illegal.
But I don't really see what is wrong if you just record and save Netflix movies on the hard disk of you own personal pc for later viewing and you delete them of course in a couple of days when you have finished watching those movies...

I understand your position but that doesn't change the law. As I understand NetFlix its On Demand video streaming. You pay a monthly fee that allows you do view any move ANY time. Therefore why would you need to record it for later viewing? When you want to watch the movie, you just connect to Netflix and watch. So that really negates the store for later use argument. The other issue is the NetFlix Agreement. You agree to abide by the rules listed there in when you subscribe to the service. The clear intent of those rules is to not allow making copies of the streamed content for ANY reason. And since you can watch any movie anytime, there is no need for copies.

So yes, it WOULD be illegal to make copies of the streamed content.

smoothy
Feb 11, 2010, 11:47 AM
Look at it this way.. when you go to the cinema to see a movie... are you entitled to the DVD?

If you stay at a Hotel... are you entitled to take the bed and linens with you when you leave?

If you have friends over to dinner, are they entitled to haul off your plates and silverware?




Or I think this is the best analogy... if you go to an all you can eat buffet, you can eat all you want while you are there (like the monthly fee) but you can't take any home to fill your refridgerator(because the terms to all you can eat is while you are there... not all you can carry out)

twinkiedooter
Feb 11, 2010, 02:42 PM
I would like to find a good way to record movies from Netflix, a Netflix Video Downloader which works well.
Any idea? I have already tried to download some movies with the add-on I'm downloading youtube videos and didn't work.
Any help appreciated.

Try a different download service instead. I use Graboid.com. I pay a monthly fee, download the movies to my computer and then I can either watch them or copy them to a DVD with a paid software program I bought to specially convert the movie files to allow me to burn to DVD's. I pay $15 a month for 50,000MG and can download quite a lot of movies for that price as well as TV shows. It is all perfectly legal to copy files to DVD's using Graboid. Some of the latest movies are on there but I wait until the quality is High versus Low quality. There is a free trial as well where you can download about 4 movies for free to see how you like it. I stumbled onto this site about 2 years ago and now have a personal movie library of well over 300 titles plus TV shows.

Bery
Feb 12, 2010, 03:50 AM
Well, the fact that I want to download or record Netflix movies is that I don't have an internet connection on my PC from my own room, just on my father's laptop in living-room and I don't have access at it all the time. Maybe this sounds strange for you but didn't want to tell you this from the first place. I won't do anything illegal, just to capture live video streams and watch them on other PC.
Graboid.com seems to be very interesting, but I have already made an account at Netflix and I would like to use it.
Well, that's OK, if there is no way to capture Netflix movies on PC, no problem, thank you anyway...

ScottGem
Feb 12, 2010, 04:20 AM
You say you "won't do anything illegal", but what you are not understanding is that the act of capturing NetFlix's video streams IS illegal since it violates your contract with them. Why not simply get a router and share the Internet connection?

As an aside, its not a good idea to leave out pertinent information.

smoothy
Feb 12, 2010, 06:07 AM
You say you "won't do anything illegal", but what you are not understanding is that the act of capturing NetFlix's video streams IS illegal since it violates your contract with them. Why not simply get a router and share the Internet connection?

As an aside, its not a good idea to leave out pertinent information.
True... wireless routers can be had very cheaply... less than $50 will buy one AND a wireless G adapter (if your computer doesn't have one already)... The faster Wireless N stuff is not a lot more if you avoid name brands.

sandysuue
Feb 25, 2010, 08:13 AM
Well, the fact that I want to download or record Netflix movies is that I don't have an internet connection on my pc from my own room, just on my father's laptop in living-room and I don't have access at it all the time. Maybe this sounds strange for you but didn't want to tell you this from the first place. I won't do anything illegal, just to capture live video streams and watch them on other pc.
Graboid.com seems to be very interesting, but I have already made an account at Netflix and I would like to use it.
Well, that's ok, if there is no way to capture Netflix movies on pc, no problem, thank you anyway...

I still say it's OK if you just record Netflix movies and use these for your own personal enjoyment and after you have watched the recorded Netflix movies, delete them.
Here's a hint for you though: if you really want to find something that can capture Netflix video streaming, you should look for an app that has screencapture functions. I think this is the only type of app that can record Netflix movies, any other apps would just be useless.

ScottGem
Feb 25, 2010, 09:12 AM
I still say it's ok if you just record Netflix movies and use these for your own personal enjoyment and after you have watched the recorded Netflix movies, delete them.


Again, you may think its "ok", but its NOT legal! You need to understand that doing so violates the contract with NetFlix and copyright law.

smoothy
Feb 25, 2010, 10:36 AM
Again, you may think its "ok", but its NOT legal!! You need to understand that doing so violates the contract with NetFlix and copyright law.


And what matters is not what they (the bootlegger) think is OK or not... its what the Judge presiding over the trial believes the law says...

I'd put my money on the Judge if I was a betting man.

cdad
Feb 26, 2010, 06:37 PM
I still say it's ok if you just record Netflix movies and use these for your own personal enjoyment and after you have watched the recorded Netflix movies, delete them.
Here's a hint for you though: if you really wanna find something that can capture Netflix video streaming, you should look for an app that has screencapture functions. I think this is the only type of app that can record Netflix movies, any other apps would just be useless.

Neflix pays for those movies and it goes to the production of more movies. What your thinking is 'ok" is pirating because every time you watch a video from netflix it has to pass the license before it can be watched. So if you watch it 10 times offline then your ripping people off.

Also Im not buying this story because most movies that are available for online watching are also available to order and have the next day on dvd. It is part of the rental contract. Netflix does not sell internet only accounts.

Bery
Mar 1, 2010, 09:03 AM
I do pay 8.99 monthly fee to watch unlimited online Netflix video streams and I want to record them on PC to transfer them on my own PC, because I don't have access to the PC with the internet connection all the time. And my father seems he isn't agree with me to get a wireless router, because he doesn't allow me to have internet all the time.
That's why I was curious to see if there is a good Netflix Video Stream Recorder to record movies.
But I guess that there is no possibility for that, I didn't think that I'm doing illegality since I pay for watching movies online. :(

justcurious55
Mar 1, 2010, 09:44 AM
How many times do they have to explain it doesn't matter what you think is right or wrong or legal. There are laws. Whether you agree with them or not, they still exist and are still valid.like calif pointed out, everything that they have for streaming online, you can also choose the rent the dvd. And you don't need an internet connection to be able to watch a dvd.

smoothy
Mar 1, 2010, 09:48 AM
I do pay 8.99 monthly fee to watch unlimited online Netflix video streams and I want to record them on pc to transfer them on my own pc, because I don't have access to the pc with the internet connection all the time. And my father seems he isn't agree with me to get a wireless router, because he doesn't allow me to have internet all the time.
That's why I was curious to see if there is a good Netflix Video Stream Recorder to record movies.
But I guess that there is no possibility for that, I didn't think that I'm doing illegality since I pay for watching movies online. :(

Doesn't matter what you think or don't think... you didn't buy a hard copy of any movie. Under the Digital Millinium Copyright act... you aren't entitled to make a backup copy of something you didn't own in the first place.

And as was mentioned... just because "...I didn't think that I'm doing illegality since I pay for watching movies online. " You would very clearly be in violation of the law.

Renting or paying to view a streaming movie...does not give you rights to a hardcopy of it....and thats exactly what you want to do.

If you pay to rent an appartment.....are you entitled to a deed for another unit too? I think not.

Want a copy of the movie...go out and buy a copy....then you would be legal. But of course....you would be paying for that copy....and its far more than renting something to which you never have rights of ownership to.....ever. Otherwise you would be buying...not renting. And just because you are a minor.....doesn't get you off the hook for movie piracy any more than it would for Music Piracy.

Sorry to inform you...this is the real world....and you don't get to make up the rules any more than the rest of us do.


Or how about this.....you let your friend use your Ipod for the weekend....he gives you $10 for using it up front. Is he entitled to keep it? And what makes that any different?

Or your "friend" gives you a Dollar to look at the essay your teacher assigned you, that you worked hard on. He takes it to Kinkos and makes a copy... and turns that in two periods before you have that class. That is different how?

InfoJunkie4Life
Mar 1, 2010, 02:14 PM
There is a legal loophole, but I'm afraid it wouldn't do much good. The DMCA strengthens copyright laws and says that programs designed to circumvent DRM's are illegal. There is an addon for FireFox that allows you to take streamed videos, from your hard drive (they have to be downloaded to be viewed) and lets you put them on another computer. This avoids DMCA because the DRM's are still in place and without a proper decoder and the correct rights it cannot be viewed. Furthermore, you are not committing any copyright violation, because the copy on your hard drive was placed there by netflix, and done so intentionally.

Once again, this remains legal because the video was placed there from the paid service, and the DRM's remain intact. Also useless unless you know how to legally play DRM protected content.