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Nicholate
Feb 1, 2010, 10:33 AM
My daughter had a child and was not ready for it right now, her job wants her to go overseas, but there is no one to watch the baby. She really need this job for her career. I think there should be a provision for allowing up to one week after birth to correct such a mistake. I don't see how she should be penalized for making a wrong choice for the rest of her life.

twinkiedooter
Feb 1, 2010, 10:37 AM
Surely you are kidding about this. Essentially you are saying that you want your daughter's child of one week eliminated.

May I suggest if your daughter wants her job over her child that she look into having the child adopted immediately. For someone to chose a job over their own child is insane.

You don't "correct the mistake" of someone giving birth.

Once the child is born this would be considered murder, plain and simple punishable by prison.

Alty
Feb 1, 2010, 10:39 AM
My daughter had a child and was not ready for it right now, her job wants her to go overseas, but there is no one to watch the baby. She really need this job for her career. I think there should be a provision for allowing up to one week after birth to correct such a mistake. I don't see how she should be penalized for making a wrong choice for the rest of her life.

Provision for what? One week to correct what mistake?

Where do you live?

Your title says "post birth abortion". Abortion is done during pregnancy, not after. After pregnancy it's called murder.

thisisit
Feb 1, 2010, 10:39 AM
Are you suggesting murder? Your daughter should be allowed to murder her child because it was a mistake?

J_9
Feb 1, 2010, 10:46 AM
Please tell me I didn't read this right!

Do you actually mean killing a child up to one week after it is born?

Please tell me I'm wrong.


My daughter had a child and was not ready for it right now, her job wants her to go overseas, but there is no one to watch the baby. She really need this job for her career. I think there should be a provision for allowing up to one week after birth to correct such a mistake. I don't see how she should be penalized for making a wrong choice for the rest of her life.

WARNING HARSH RESPONSE


Nicholate... Your daughter had 9 months to consider this. She had the option of abortion or adoption, yet she chose childbirth and motherhood. I can't believe you are even considering murder. YES, it is MURDER!!

The choice she made was to have the child. She had 2 other choices you know. Now you want to murder your grandchild? Really? Am I reading this right?

Let me ask you this Nicholate, would you have murdered your daughter one week after you gave birth to her? Let me ask you another question. How would you accomplish this? Smothering? Drowning? How, just how would you kill your daughter?

Have you even mentioned this to your daughter? Have you asked her if she wants to KILL her child? Or would you do it for her?

OMG, I actually think I am going to be sick! And I actually think you need some serious intense psychiatric care!

I warned you this response was going to be harsh!

I can only hope and pray your daughter keeps her child as far away from you as possible.

HistorianChick
Feb 1, 2010, 12:02 PM
What?

I have no words, nothing to say. This is a horrific, disgusting question; I can only pray that the OP was kidding. Even that is horrible.

This will land you in jail.

I don't think I've ever heard a more insensitive, selfish, self-absorbed question. Your daughter should be spanked. Seriously.

And, so should you.

NeedKarma
Feb 1, 2010, 12:03 PM
Got to be a troll.

Synnen
Feb 1, 2010, 12:03 PM
Correct what, exactly?

Adoption is still VERY much an option, if she's open to it. You have NO idea how many couples would be grateful for your grandchild, ESPECIALLY since the child is still an infant.

Please have your daughter contact social services in your area and get some advice on her CURRENT options.

neverme
Feb 1, 2010, 12:12 PM
I really am absolutely speechless!

Do you have any idea the amount of people that are dying to have children??

There are many 'provisions' for dealing with an unwanted child, one being A CONDOM!

I really hope this is a troll.

Cat1864
Feb 1, 2010, 12:22 PM
This is going to be harsh, but since the op asked for OPINIONS not ADVICE. She can pay attention or not as is her right.

If I ever wondered if Safe Haven laws were a good idea, this question truly illustrates that they are.

Quite frankly, I think you are seeking attention. Anyone who actually put any thought into your proposal would quickly see it as the self-serving piece of tripe that it is.

Interestingly enough, you make no mention of the 'father'. Where does he fit in with you concept of parenthood and parental 'rights'? What would be your stance if he wanted to murder the child because it is a mistake in his life to have gotten your daughter pregnant? Would he have been within his rights to have killed your daughter to keep from having to deal the unpleasantness of having a child to take care of?

I think you are a selfish person who doesn't want to be saddled with a grandchild to raise. I think you went along with your daughter's plans for the future until your life was going to be impacted.

It makes me wonder just what type of relationship you have with your child and what type you want to have. IF either of you are thinking seriously about this (I do have my doubts), then the guilt and self-anger and mistrust that would come out of it will destroy whatever 'love' there is in it.

Nicholate
Feb 1, 2010, 12:29 PM
I guess a week can make a lifetime of difference

hheath541
Feb 1, 2010, 12:29 PM
Please tell me I didn't read this right!

Do you actually mean killing a child up to one week after it is born?

Please tell me I'm wrong.



WARNING HARSH RESPONSE


Nicholate...Your daughter had 9 months to consider this. She had the option of abortion or adoption, yet she chose childbirth and motherhood. I can't believe you are even considering murder. YES, it is MURDER!!!

The choice she made was to have the child. She had 2 other choices you know. Now you want to murder your grandchild? Really? Am I reading this right?

Let me ask you this Nicholate, would you have murdered your daughter one week after you gave birth to her? Let me ask you another question. How would you accomplish this? Smothering? Drowning? How, just how would you kill your daughter?

Have you even mentioned this to your daughter? Have you asked her if she wants to KILL her child? Or would you do it for her?

OMG, I actually think I am going to be sick!! And I actually think you need some serious intense psychiatric care!

I warned you this response was going to be harsh!

I can only hope and pray your daughter keeps her child as far away from you as possible.

I hope her daughter takes the overseas job and NEVER comes back. Keep ALL children as FAR away from this woman as POSSIBLE!

Death threats are illegal. She is making death threats, and possibly plotting the murder, against an INFANT, her own GRANDCHILD! I hope she's mentioned this around someone who can report her to the local authorities.

nicckidoodle
Feb 1, 2010, 12:32 PM
This is the most disugsting thing I have ever herd of, like the other post say I hope this is a very sick joke and if it is it is not funny in the least! My question is what does your daughter feel, YOU are saying that your grandchild is a "penalty" and a "mistake"? Apparently she has other views seeing as she gave birth to this child! CHILDREN ARE NOT MISTAKES! The mistake is having unprotected sex!! How dare you suggest taking the life of a helpless child, that is murder, not to say the most sickening thing I have ever herd, I cannot express my disgust for your question, what happened to the option of adoption? So many wonderful people are out there desperatly wanting a child, you would rather have your flesh and blood murdered rather than someone who would love the child raise it? I believe you are a monster!! And I have no further words to express my disgust for you

J_9
Feb 1, 2010, 12:36 PM
i hope she's mentioned this around someone who can report her to the local authorities.


She has... right here!

ScottGem
Feb 1, 2010, 12:37 PM
I guess a week can make a lifetime of difference

Excuse me but it was a week that made this difference. It was actually only a few minutes. The few minutes it took for her to decide to engage in sexual intercourse. That's the decision that may result in the wreck of her life.


But beyond those few minutes, she had ample opportunity to deal with the issue. She had several months after discovering her pregnancy to do something about it. After it became too late she had other options like adoption open to her.

That you would propose to murder an innocent child because of your daughter's mistakes is beyond belief.

Cat1864
Feb 1, 2010, 12:37 PM
I guess a week can make a lifetime of difference

A second can make a difference of a lifetime. Like one second between breaths or heartbeats.

There are places to give a child up for adoption if it is truly unwanted. Her company may have provisions for families of the people it sends over-seas.

Have you looked at ALL the options there are or are you wanting a 'quick fix'?

Women who miscarry or have early pregnancy abortions live with the emotional scars of what happened for the rest of their lives. What kind of scars do you think this would leave?

hheath541
Feb 1, 2010, 12:40 PM
She has...right here!!

Does anyone here have the authority and resources to track her down and report her?

HistorianChick
Feb 1, 2010, 12:41 PM
I guess a week can make a lifetime of difference

For an infant, of course it can! It should be the first week with his/her mother, those first moments of bonding with the one that birthed him/her, the first looks at a world of possibilities, a first kiss on his/her beautiful little cheeks, the first bedtime story, the first lullaby, the first touch of a mother's hand...

Not the first time a mother realizes that she made a mistake and conspires (with her mother, the child's grandmother) to kill him/her...

Of course a week makes a lifetime of difference.

redhed35
Feb 1, 2010, 12:41 PM
to the op, I wonder if you had anything else to add,there is a lot of people here who can offer options available and have a wealth of experience that may be of value.

your opening post was quite shocking.

J_9
Feb 1, 2010, 12:42 PM
does anyone here have the authority and resources to track her down and report her?

Yup!

NeedKarma
Feb 1, 2010, 12:45 PM
Don't feed the troll... please.

hheath541
Feb 1, 2010, 12:47 PM
Yup!

Good. I hope they do. She is plotting the murder of an infant.

ScottGem
Feb 1, 2010, 12:57 PM
I have a couple of comments to make here.

First, to neverme and hheath. While I sympathize with your reaction to the OP, I question your use of the comments feature in this regard. The post you disagreed with was voicing an opinion. The guidelines on using the comments feature are that a negative should be used only to correct an inaccurate statement of fact.
Since it wasn't it was not appropriate use of the comments feature. If you need to review the guidelines for using the feature it's a sticky on the top of the Forum Help area.

Second, I'm going to close this thread. I think we have all, deservedly so, made it clear to the OP that she is advocating murder, worse the murder of an innocent child. That here feelings for her daugther are overweighed by her lack of feeling for her grandchild.

So I don't think anyone can add anything more to this thread that hasn't already been said.

Nicholate
Feb 1, 2010, 12:59 PM
Thank you all so very much for defending the "right to life". I see there is a line, for now.

ScottGem
Feb 1, 2010, 01:49 PM
Thank you all so very much for defending the "right to life". I see there is a line, for now.

I have to respond here. I have to wonder about the motive here. I am NOT a Right to Lifer, far from it. In fact, I hate the term because those who call themselves don't care about life only about allowing a fetus to go full term.

I suspect (in fact suspected it from the beginning) that the agenda of the OP was to tweak pro choice advocates by trying to say what's the difference between a 1 week old and a fetus in the first trimester. But there IS a difference. As many of us have pointed out.

J_9
Feb 2, 2010, 08:24 AM
Scott, I hope you don't mind, but I was in hibernation when you closed this thread. I just wanted to add...


Thank you all so very much for defending the "right to life". I see there is a line, for now.

I am all out pro choice. NOT right to life.