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George_1950
Jan 27, 2010, 12:36 PM
I'm always ready for a laugh: "'The president is a strong persuader, as they say, and I think it makes an awful lot of difference, and I think he will bring everybody together,' said Rep. John Larson, D-Conn." These guys live in a bubble.
Dems vow to resurrect health care bill - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100127/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul)
speechlesstx
Jan 27, 2010, 02:25 PM
Didn't you know George, "the big difference here and in ’94 (http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0110/Berry_Obama_said_big_difference_between_10_and_94_ is_me.html#)" is we have Obama? And now we have Obama the fighter. He used "fighting" words 20 times in his Ohio speech last week (just to be clear), so I'm a little confused as to whether he's going to be the fighter or the uniter now. Whatever incarnation we get I'm sure will be for The One's benefit.
tomder55
Jan 27, 2010, 02:55 PM
If you want some fun during the SOTU address tonight play Obama Bingo .
Here is a card to use . The rules are simple . Mark off any of the words or phrases the President uses in his speech.
http://image.patriotpost.us.s3.amazonaws.com/2010-01-25-humor-bingo.jpg
spitvenom
Jan 27, 2010, 03:01 PM
Tom Drinking games are much more fun then Bingo. My friends and I use to play a drinking game for bush's speech 9/11, terrorists, freedoms, etc... I am going to have to take that board and make it a drinking game.
tomder55
Jan 27, 2010, 03:06 PM
I'll join you .
speechlesstx
Jan 27, 2010, 03:07 PM
I'm in!
George_1950
Jan 27, 2010, 03:42 PM
Me too!
tomder55
Jan 28, 2010, 03:26 AM
I'm hung over from the drone-a-thon. Twinkie is right... he does think we're stupid !
spitvenom
Jan 28, 2010, 07:37 AM
Im just hung over
speechlesstx
Jan 28, 2010, 08:32 AM
Did you catch him dissing the Supreme Court while they were in attendance? Alito was obviously not pleased with that...
W-hb-hQXi9s
spitvenom
Jan 28, 2010, 08:43 AM
Yeah I saw that what did Alito mouth Not true or something like that.
tomder55
Jan 28, 2010, 08:48 AM
The President was goading the Republicans throughout the address looking for a Joe Wilson moment. Clearly John Boehner told them to hold their tongues .
spitvenom
Jan 28, 2010, 09:03 AM
It is funny you say that Tom. I kept telling my wife it looks like he is trying to bait them. I really thought if they said something Obama was going to start a fight. Not an argument but knuckling up.
George_1950
Jan 28, 2010, 09:08 AM
You are suggesting Obama is a yard punk?
George_1950
Jan 28, 2010, 09:11 AM
Did you catch him dissing the Supreme Court while they were in attendance? Alito was obviously not pleased with that...
W-hb-hQXi9s
I'll answer my own question: he is a punk.
speechlesstx
Jan 28, 2010, 09:16 AM
That WAS Obama's Joe Wilson moment.
George_1950
Jan 28, 2010, 09:34 AM
Sweet, affable, intelligent, editor of Harvard Law Review, Obama. A no-class punk.
speechlesstx
Jan 28, 2010, 09:38 AM
By the way, fresh off his first SOTU address, he went right back to permanent campaign mode (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obama-You-liked-my-speech--Please-send-money-82861417.html)... send me money!
NeedKarma
Jan 28, 2010, 09:40 AM
A no-class punk.As are you my friend.
spitvenom
Jan 28, 2010, 09:56 AM
If Obama was a Yard Punk I think Joe Wilson would still be drinking all his meals.
speechlesstx
Feb 2, 2010, 11:29 AM
You can't make this stuff up. A Canadian province premier who was a staunch defender of Canada's single payer system (http://ezralevant.com/2010/02/danny-williams-flies-to-us-hea.html) is flying to the US for heart surgery (http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/02/01/nl-williams-heart-201.html). I guess he didn't want to wait in line.
Exit question, have any of the Obamacare supporters in our Democrat regime vowed to subject themselves and their families to the plan they want to foist on us?
tomder55
Feb 3, 2010, 06:24 AM
IBD followed this story up with an op-ed .
A Canadian premier, Danny Williams, said Tuesday he was headed for the U.S. for heart surgery. That's a bit ironic, given that Democrats hail Canada-care as a model for the U.S. and call our system "broken."
The provincial governor of Newfoundland and Labrador didn't seem to think so when his deputy, Kathy Dunderdale, told the National Post: "He has gone to a renowned expert in the procedure that he needs to have done."
She didn't disclose exactly where, but she assured Canadians that his prognosis was excellent and she'd fill in for him during his three- to 12-week recovery period. "Ultimately, we have to be the gatekeepers of our own health," Dunderdale said.
Now, someone like Williams, who's both an elected official and independently wealthy, ought to be able to get world-class medical care in Canada. But he couldn't. Because Canada's single-payer health care system reduces the quality and quantity of care.
A physician can't just go into business in Canada. He or she is joined at the hip to Canada's health care system as paymaster, with any private care placed under strict government price controls.
That means long lines of rationing as well as lower-quality care. It's so bad that even the premier prefers to head to the States.
He's not alone. Other premiers, including Quebec's Robert Bourassa in 1990, have sought that care, as has Member of Parliament Belinda Stronach in 2007. According to the Fraser Institute, 41,000 Canadians, or 1% of the population, were referred by their own doctors for nonemergency medical care abroad in 2009, a rise of about 10% from a year earlier.
Thousands more don't even wait for a referral, leaving the country to seek treatment on their own. Clinics in U.S. cities like Buffalo, Seattle and Detroit do a booming business with Canadian medical tourists. Canadian newspapers are filled with U.S. doctors advertising their services.
For the wealthy Williams, U.S. health care paid for out of pocket is a viable option. Not so for Canada's poor. If the U.S. moves to a Canadian-style health care model, not even the rich will be able to run from the unpleasant side effects of a socialist system.
Investors.com - Canada-Care's Secret (http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=519921)
George_1950
Feb 3, 2010, 07:21 AM
We are on a roll: 1) the fix at IPCC/UN; 2) Scott Brown in MA; and 3) this Canadian popenjay.
As for health care systm in the USA, the Progressive/liberals can not get away with saying, 'the system is broken', or 'heathcare reform'. They are pushing for healthcare hijacking. They must be stopped.
smoothy
Feb 3, 2010, 08:15 AM
If ANY of those morons ever visited a European Hospital, ever been to an ER there... ever knew people in them that died for stupid reasons like I have. They would want no parts of it.
speechlesstx
Feb 3, 2010, 09:02 AM
If ANY of those morons ever visited a European Hospital, ever been to an ER there....ever knew people in them that died for stupid reasons like I have. They would want no parts of it.
That's why those making the new rules won't commit to using it themselves.
smoothy
Feb 3, 2010, 09:15 AM
That's why those making the new rules won't commit to using it themselves.
Exactly...