How do I get a website


I am a janitorial service. I clean commercial businesses. I need a website to advertise my business

Why are you bumping your thread every 2 minutes? You posted your question and someone will get to you as soon as they can.

This isn't a chat site, this is a question and answer site and all of us volunteer here, so a little patience is required, we all have our own lives and come here when we can. It can sometimes take days to get an answer, so patience please.

You find a name and buy or lease a domain that someone else doesn't already own... money

THen you have to rent server space with a static IP... more money...

THen you have to set up the website on that server... or pay someone to do it... even more money.

That is VERY simplified because if you expect anyone to ever find that website there is a LOT more involved.
That takes a lot of time and a LOT of know-how... and if you have to pay someone that actually knows what they are doing... a LOT of money.

And you have to maintain that website... and the recurring bills... money.


And based on your original question... you don't have a clue how to do any of the above. So you will be paying others to do it all.

And you do get what you pay for... trust me, been there done that.

Might be cheaper to take out an ad in the local paper, as your business isn't national, but local.

Might be cheaper to take out an ad in the local paper, as your business isn't national, but local.

Most definitely. I hope OP doesn't go through this expense. The yellow pages, or a local directory is still a good venue for his type of business. I still check our listings in both if I want to find a service.

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Hi, lindamhamilton!

I've done a bit of cleaning up of this thread...

It's not hard to have a website and to advertise on the Internet. Doing either of those things to get excellent exposure for people looking for what you do where you do it, doesn't have to cost you any money.

If interested in knowing how to do that, please let me know on this thread.

Thanks!

Being on the internet and being easy to be found on the internet are two different things.

The difference between being on page 1,000 and page 1 of a search engine query is all about knowing how and what to do. That doesn't come easy or free. It does require you to be better at setting up that site and the required stuff than most of the others out there in your category. And obviously if it was that easy everyone would be the best and on page one, obviously THAT isn't possible.

How often do you or anyone dig down through more than the first ten pages on Google, Yahoo, Bing or whatever you like to use to find something? Not often right... nor do most others. Ever pay notice to how many results you might turn up on say, cleaning services? And clearly until you get one heck of a name, odd's are nobody is searching for you by name... they are looking for a cleaning service. How much work will you get if you are on page 20, or 200 on a search?

Most places that guarantee you a high search engine placement... are thieves. And often employ tactics that will earn you a spot on the blacklist which means you won't be indexed at all on that search engine.

Just some stuff to keep in mind. No I don't do this for a living... but I have done it as a hobby for years. And no... I don't do it for others. I don't have the free time.

Originally posted by smoothy
Being on the internet and being easy to be found on the internet are two different things.

The difference between being on page 1,000 and page 1 of a search engine query is all about knowing how and what to do. That doesn't come easy or free. It does require you to be better at setting up that site and the required stuff than most of the others out there in your category. And obviously if it was that easy everyone would be the best and on page one, obviously THAT isn't possible.

How often do you or anyone dig down through more than the first ten pages on Google, Yahoo, Bing or whatever you like to use to find something? Not often right... nor do most others. Ever pay notice to how many results you might turn up on say, cleaning services? And clearly until you get one heck of a name, odd's are nobody is searching for you by name... they are looking for a cleaning service. How much work will you get if you are on page 20, or 200 on a search?

Most places that guarantee you a high search engine placement... are thieves. And often employ tactics that will earn you a spot on the blacklist which means you won't be indexed at all on that search engine.

Just some stuff to keep in mind. No I don't do this for a living... but I have done it as a hobby for years. And no... I don't do it for others. I don't have the free time.


It's free on this site for me to help them, smoothy! It's also easy to be exposed the most when people do searches for what you do, where you do it!

Please click on the following links. Most of what you'll find for many pages will be about me.

Link One (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Piano+Lessons%2C+Music+Teacher+Quad+Cities&aq=f&aql=&aqi=&oq=)

Link Two (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Piano+Tuning+and+Repair+Quad+Cities&aq=f&aql=&aqi=&oq=)

Link Three (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Quad+Cities+Furniture+Refinishing&aq=f&aql=&aqi=&oq=)

Link Four (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=House+Painter+in+Rock+Island%2C+IL&aq=f&aql=&aqi=&oq=)

That ain't all and is only a small sampling of what can be done!

Thanks!

Origianally posted by smoothy
And obviously if it was that easy everyone would be the best and on page one, obviously THAT isn't possible.



I can get anyone exposed on the first page of a Google search within minutes!

I can get anyone exposed on the first page of a Google search within minutes!
I doubt that, if you could you'd be very wealthy.

I doubt that, if you could you'd be very wealthy.

Yes I can and I do! (I do wish that more people would use what I do, so that I could make some income from it!)

I haven't yet advertised extensively for providing that kind of service, though...

[quote=smoothy;2197262] And obviously if it was that easy everyone would be the best and on page one, obviously THAT isn't possible.
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I can get anyone exposed on the first page of a Goggle search within minutes!


Seriously, Not intending to be sarcastic at all, so don't take this that way, but THAT is something I'd like to see.. on a category search... not using their specific business name, as they don't have the exposure or name recognition in the first place.

Having dealt with search engine submissions... metatag tweaking and knowing the time limits on those for years... and knowing what the major search engines frown upon and what will cost you position if you employ certain tactics, That's not possible in days... or even weeks.

If someone knew who they were or what they offered... they would know how to reach them as well. They clearly are looking for that exposure so you have to optimize so that THEIR information is more appealing to the search engines than everyone else's is on a topic search. And it is all about nuances and subtleties.

People who are really, really good at that can earn a good living doing it if they can prove a track record.

Yes I can and I do! (I do wish that more people would use what I do, so that I could make some income from it!)

I haven't yet advertised extensively for providing that kind of service, though...How do you do it?

Having dealt with search engine submissions...metatag tweaking and knowing the time limits on those for years...and knowing what the major search engines frown upon and what will cost you position if you employ certain tactics, Thats not possible in days....or even weeks.I'm helping out in consultations about the SEO for the CMS of the website I manage. I'd love to see a single page we select be vaulted to the top by Clough. We could pick a free website page that we make and have him throw his magic into it. Wait a week or so for the bots to crawl it and see if he is true to his word.

I'm trying to find the link on this website where the advertising for a member appeared on the first page in a Google search within minutes. I think that I put an image on there about that.

I don't remember where it's located, though... Have to do some searching...

Thanks!

I'm helping out in consultations about the SEO for the CMS of the website I manage. I'd love to see a single page we select be vaulted to the top by Clough. We could pick a free website page that we make and have him throw his magic into it. Wait a week or so for the bots to crawl it and see if he is true to his word.

Depending on where you advertise, it can happen within minutes!

How do you do it?

I've been advertising on the Internet for well over four years now. There are certain websites that get excellent exposure in searches right away. But, it does depend on the keywords that a person adds to the ads in order to make a difference.

Now you can pay for placement on search engines... so that doesn't count, because you stated for free.

Ahead of all the professional businesses out there with hired guns and web designers, etc...

They have to earn that placement... and they have to earn the right to keep it.


There are shortcuts that might get you up there quick, but when you get caught and you will if you employ those tactics. (they have bots looking for exactly that sort of thing)... the site will be off the search engine altogether before long, and blacklisted.


And I am not talking about those multiple business listing things that you sometimes find on a search... I and a LOT of people back right out of pages like that we find, when we find them.

We are talking their home page , not a page where their advertizing is a minor portion of.


I think its important to be a bit more specific about exactly what we each are talking about, and where. Or we can all easily end up talking about different things. And I think we might be at this point.

I specifically am NOT referring to a online version of the Yellow pages on a results search.

But results that have their website and home page DIRECTLY on the search engine results, not shared by others on that result.


You can piggyback on someone else's site in minutes like an advertiser... but you won't get your own home page, on page one Google results in minutes,

Now you can pay for placement on search engines....so that doesn't count, because you stated for free.

Ahead of all the professional businesses out there with hired guns and web designers, etc....

They have to earn that placement...and they have to earn the right to keep it.


There are shortcuts that might get you up there quick, but when you get caught and you will if you employ those tactics. (they have bots looking for exactly that sort of thing)...the site will be off the search engine alltogether before long, and blacklisted.

I've never been black listed and I know how the search engines work. My exposure on the Internet should be self-evident because of the links that I provided previously.

Here's another one.

Link One (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&[email protected]&aq=f&aql=&aqi=&oq=)

There are over 6,000 results for my email address alone. That's only for the sites that will allow my email address to be listed on them.

Thanks!

I'll be around later tonight, lindamhamilton, if you would like some help.

Thanks!

Now you can pay for placement on search engines....so that doesn't count, because you stated for free.

Ahead of all the professional businesses out there with hired guns and web designers, etc....

They have to earn that placement...and they have to earn the right to keep it.


There are shortcuts that might get you up there quick, but when you get caught and you will if you employ those tactics. (they have bots looking for exactly that sort of thing)...the site will be off the search engine alltogether before long, and blacklisted.


And I am not talking about those multiple business listing things that you sometimes find on a search.....I and a LOT of people back right out of pages like that we find, when we find them.

We are talking their home page , not a page where their advertizing is a minor portion of.


I think its important to be a bit more specific about exactly what we each are talking about, and where. Or we can all easily end up talking about different things. And I think we might be at this point.

I specifically am NOT refering to a online version of the Yellow pages on a results search.

But results that have their website and home page DIRECTLY on the search engine results, not shared by others on that result.


You can piggyback on someone elses site in minutes like an advertiser.....but you won't get your own home page, page one google results in minutes,.

Yes, I can be first when people do searches for things...

It's become kind of a game for me now. For instance, I can beat all of the florists around where I'm located if people are looking for something for Valentine's Day. Flowers, candy, cards, games, etc,

Thanks!

Here's another one.

Link One (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&[email protected]&aq=f&aql=&aqi=&oq=)

That's your email address, it's a unique piece of data, you aren't competing with anyone for it. All you did was make a lot of webpages and postings. That is absolutely NOT the challenge behind SEO.

You can get a website for free. There are many companies out there that offer free website hosting. One is weebly.com.

You can also use your website as a blog. I have seen many do this. It isn't as nice, but it works. A good one is blogger.com.

However, having a website isn't just going out and getting a domain and putting some words on the page.

You have a lot of competition in the cleaning industry so you want to be sure your site gets picked up by the search engines. Make sure you have relevant content and keywords to help with that.

Do some research into what your site needs to get to the top of the search engines. Once you do that, just be patient. It will happen. But it doesn't happen overnight.

You can get your site on the top of Google by going through other companies that are indexed well such as Merchant Circle. These are free and highly recommended.

I always tell my customers to do a search such as your customers would and see what websites come up. For example if you are a cleaning company based out of NY. Do a search for cleaning in NY and many varying terms. Whichever sites come up on the first page, get listed there.

Good luck!

That's your email address, it's a unique piece of data, you aren't competing with anyone for it. All you did was make a lot of webpages and postings. That is absolutely NOT the challenge behind SEO.

Ah, but my email address is listed on many sites where the information that I've posted is competitive.

Thanks!

Now you can pay for placement on search engines....so that doesn't count, because you stated for free.
...

No need to pay for placement on search engines. It's easy to get on the first pages of the searches for free!

Thanks!

Ah, but my email address is listed on many sites where the information that I've posted is competitive.
Here is a better test of your skills: make a new website/page, let's say it's for paper airplane models, use your SEO magic to make it the first result returned when someone searches "paper airplane models". Does that sound reasonable?

Originally Posted by Clough https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/small-business/websites-439577-3.html#post2203070)
Ah, but my email address is listed on many sites where the information that I've posted is competitive.



Here is a better test of your skills: make a new website/page, let's say it's for paper airplane models, use your SEO magic to make it the first result returned when someone searches "paper airplane models". Does that sound reasonable?

But, providing paper airplane models isn't something that I do.

If someone did that sort of thing, and wanted me to provide the online advertising for them, be it on a website or on an advertising site, I'm sure that I could get them on the first pages in a search in short order.

Thanks!

Your email address is not a good example of doing SEO since it's not a competitive search string. It matters not the sites it shows up on because you put that unique content there. The SEO challenge is getting websites/pages to appear higher on the results listings in a competitive space.

This is now old, but it might help to prove my point.

Link (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Quad+Cities+Valentine%27s+Day&aq=f&aqi=&oq=)

There's so much competition for Valentine's Day in and around wherever a person might be.

I'm first at the top of the page in the search.

Thanks!

No need to pay for placement on search engines. It's easy to get on the first pages of the searches for free!

Thanks!
Then a lot of serious businesses are getting screwed...

I finally found the link on this site where I demonstrated to a customer how quickly I could be first in a Google search. The ad that I posted on the web appeared in one minute!

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/small-business/internet-ads-423807-6.html

The title of the ad is not the name of my business. I simply used words that anyone might use in searching what I do, where I do it.

Thanks!

Then a lot of serious businesses are getting screwed....

I am a serious business.

Yes, but most people are not going to be searching for this company using their business name. It is easy to come up in search results if you search using a unique business name.

People are going to search for a service in a service area (for example, house painter in Chicago). Those search results are much harder to achieve and you need to do your research on how to achieve them.

Yes, but most people are not going to be searching for this company using their business name. It is easy to come up in search results if you search using a unique business name.

People are going to search for a service in a service area (for example, house painter in Chicago). Those search results are much harder to achieve and you need to do your research on how to achieve them.

That wasn't my business name that I used in the search. It was how people might search for what I do, where I do it.

If anyone varies the search terms for a house painter in the locations where I work, I will show up first in the searches or at least on the first page.

Thanks!

Here's another example.

Link. (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Piano+Rock+Island%2C+IL&aq=f&aqi=&oq=)

I just used some generic search terms. I dominate the first page, if you check out the sites. That's also me on the Google Maps.

Thanks!

Yet, another example.

Link. (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Rock+Island+Handyman&aq=f&aqi=&oq=)

Again, I dominate the first page, if you check out most of the links. I'm also the third listing on the Google Maps.

I didn't even list the State in the search.

Thanks!

Yes, but most people are not going to be searching for this company using their business name. It is easy to come up in search results if you search using a unique business name.

People are going to search for a service in a service area (for example, house painter in Chicago). Those search results are much harder to achieve and you need to do your research on how to achieve them.
THAT is exactly what I was referring to earlier. IF you are looking for a place and haven't singled out on a particular business which will be what most new potiential clients will do.

I also found wix.com the other day, but it is all flash, which I understand is not good for customers with slow internet connections and is not good for getting indexed by Google... they don't like flash.

This is interesting...

Last night, I went looking for pianos for sale around where I live.

Pianos for Sale Quad Cities - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Pianos+for+Sale+Quad+Cities&aq=f&aqi=&oq=)

Even though I don't sell pianos, I still appeared, in numerous places on the search, on the first page.

I was doing that for a customer for whom I went and evaluated a piano last night. She might become a student of mine as well as one of her sons. I also talked the person down for the cost of the piano and arranged, last night, for a mover for the piano. The person for whom I evaluated the piano, also paid me in cash and gave me a substantial tip in the payment.

Not bad! :)

Are you coming back to here, lindamhamilton?

Thanks!