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trj206
Jan 20, 2010, 10:43 AM
Ive been with my boyfriend for 10 years. He has a 9(almost 10) year old daughter. He has custody of her(in WA),and the Mom has monthly 3 day visits(in Oregon). Last Friday the mother picked up the child and we were to meet her Monday for the return from visit but she never showed up. We call the police and they say there's not much they can do its civil so we have to go through court to get her back. We call our family law attorney and he calls the child's maternal grandfather to ask what's going on and why the child is not returned. He tells the attorney that,the child has been molested by my boyfriend/the child's father.and she has be advised not to return the child or contact the father. Of course this is completely false and he would never do this to his daughter,3 months ago it was he was beating the child,a year before that it was I was beating the child... so on.. she comes up with claims to try and gain custody back but this by far is the worst story she has came up with. This shocked us,we still have no idea what's going on or what to do. The Portland police won't tell us anything either will renton police,cps no one. Im just lost and I don't know what our next steps should be.

Justwantfair
Jan 20, 2010, 10:55 AM
What did your attorney suggest? Where is the original court order granting your b/f custody filed?

trj206
Jan 20, 2010, 11:02 AM
He gained custody in WA.Suposedly all this took place here in WA. Yet she has the child in Oregon and filed the report there to. The family law attorney said he will refer us to a criminal attorney who can help,but while that's going on he is trying to file papers to have the child sent back here to WA.

this8384
Jan 20, 2010, 12:16 PM
Ive been with my boyfriend for 10 years. He has a 9(almost 10) year old daughter. He has custody of her(in WA),and the Mom has monthly 3 day visits(in Oregon). Last Friday the mother picked up the child and we were to meet her monday for the return from visit but she never showed up. We call the police and they say theres not much they can do its civil so we have to go thru court to get her back. We call our family law attorney and he calls the childs maternal grandfather to ask whats going on and why the child is not returned. He tells the attorney that,the child has been molested by my boyfriend/the childs father.and she has be advised not to return the child or contact the father. Of course this is completely false and he would never do this to his daughter,3 months ago it was he was beating the child,a year before that it was I was beating the child...so on..she comes up with claims to try and gain custody back but this by far is the worst story she has came up with. This shocked us,we still have no idea whats going on or what to do. The Portland police wont tell us anything either will renton police,cps no one. Im just lost and I dont know what our next steps should be.

What happened the first two times that the allegations were made? I assume child services investigated and found that the father had done nothing wrong.

You need to get an attorney to file for an emergency hearing to hold the mother in contempt for concealing the child. She has made numerous allegations, all of which have been unsubstantiated.

Technically, the police cannot get involved. Some of them try to, but it literally is a civil matter and something that needs to be handled through the courts.

While his attorney is at it, he may want to request that the mother's visitation be limited and/or supervised. If she is consistently playing games like this and making false allegations, she is doing more psychological harm to the child than I even want to think about. What has the daughter said about the past allegations?

cdad
Jan 20, 2010, 02:26 PM
Someone has to know something. And That person or agency has to let you know. Since this has crossed state lines it is parental kidnapping. At this point they either tell you and have some proof or you get the child back and start immediate court process to strip the mother of her rights entirly since she is a clear and present danger to the child's welfare.

ScottGem
Jan 20, 2010, 04:15 PM
I'm a little foggy about What's happening here. You said you attorney call the maternal grandmother. You then said; "He tells the attorney that,the child has been molested by my boyfriend/the childs father". Did you mean to say "she". If not, who is "he". You then say, "she has be advised not to return the child or contact the father". Who is "she" at this point? The mother or the grandmother?

Why didn't your attorney ask who advised her about that? And whether a case has been opened against your boyfriend by the local police or family services? That's what I would have asked if I was your attorney.

What you need to do now is go to your local court, and request that a contempt citation be issued against the mother and that the child be immediately returned.

Once this order is issued your boyfriend takes it to Oregon and gets the local police to enforce the order. Maybe even get the FBI involved since this IS a kidnapping.

The only way the local police should dent this is if a claim of molestation has been made against the child's father. In that case, he requests that the child be removed from the mother and put in temporary foster care until the charges can be investigated. He should bring along proof of previous accusations and that he has been cleared of them.

I would also tend to look for a new family attorney because that's what he should have advised you to do.

trj206
Jan 20, 2010, 05:14 PM
All the previous accusations have been investigated and basically thrown out because there was no evidence.They even talked to the child's therapist of 2 years,who confirmed nothing has happened while here at our home. However there has been many reports by the child that there has been abuse at the mothers.
The attorney called the maternal grandfather and He said that the child had been molested.. so that would be the HE.. the SHE is the mother.. The attorney did ask but the grandfather wasn't trying to tell any info. We are still not sure if any case has been opened on my boyfriend/childsfather. We have talked to a crimnal attorney and have a meeting with him tomorrow morning. The family law attorney will also be there and we are going to discuss what to do.

Less than a hour ago we got a phone call from the Child saying "daddy im ok,just her with my mommy and sum other people.Police were here mommy told them you hurt me I tried to tell them that you didnt hurt me but mommy made me go in the room,so they just gave me stickers.I start school here on friday I guess im living here now" and then the phone hung up. All my boyfriend got to say was Hi.. he asked her what's going on and how was she doing.
Its odd to me that she can just enroll her in school and think she can just take custody back.The mother has NO decision making rights and she doesn't have primary custody.
All your answers have helped and I thank u.

Fr_Chuck
Jan 20, 2010, 06:11 PM
File kidnapping charges, go talk to the DA.
Divorce attorney, charge them with contempt in court, and order them to bring child back to that cort.

And merle go get the child, police will not help, but find her in yard or somewhere, and go home with child.

Inform the local schools that your child is kidnapped and the mother does not have custody. they should not be able to enroll her

ScottGem
Jan 20, 2010, 08:31 PM
Sorry my bad for some reason I read maternal grandmother.

What I would recommend is start calling around to all the schools in the area where the mother is. Find out what school has registered her. Then your boyfriend shows up Friday with a copy of the custody order showing that he has full custody and take the child home.

Then file a petition to amend the visitation to only supervised visits.