lol!

She is going to divorce the first dude and marry Glen Back.

A perfect match.

Hello NK:

She quit as governor so she could work better for Alaskans... I didn't know talking to O'Reilly would do that. Do they even get FOX news up there?

On a related matter, what do you Palin lovers think about her being accused of outright LYING by the guy who picked her as VP? Is it going to matter?

excon

Actually excon I think that becomes a moot point since this moves pretty much puts an end to her political career.

I don't think she had much of a political future anyway. Being ditzy is okay for TV but not as POTUS. We already have one ditsy guy there now, so we don't need a repeat of more. Two in a row is more than enough thank you. Three would definitely be overkill.

this moves pretty much puts an end to her political career.Hello again, NK:

If God wants her to be president, she'll be president.

excon

Hello again, NK:

If God wants her to be president, she'll be president.

excon

But only if she keeps hearing him talk to her in her head. Then she'll be the perfect candidate for POTUS. We already had one nutcase who talked directly to god - why not another?

why not another?Hello twink:

Uhhh... Because, God doesn't like you? 'Sokay. He likes me & NK even less..

excon

Hello twink:

Uhhh... Because, God doesn't like you?? 'Sokay. He likes me & NK even less..

excon

God likes me just fine. But I don't have any one on one conversations with God. Not me personally. But god forbid he starts chatting it up with Sarah Palin. We'll all be in big trouble then. She can cite the divine intervention ploy and take over the government because god wants her to rule the Americans from her throne. Ah, dumber things have happened in history, you know.

lol!
Yeah Rupert can sure pick them can't he? So what odds on Rupert backing her for the WHITE HOUSE so he can truly grab the reins of power

God help the Republican party. She isn't even smart enough to realize that people don't watch her because she has intelligent opinions, they watch her the same way they watch a circus freak show or a car accident. The GOP needs to tell her she is not the future of the party.

The Wine and Liquor Wholesalers of America are having their annual convention in Las Vegas in April and Palin will be the keynote speaker. Hmmmm what are the odds that she will Judge a wet T-shirt contest at The Palms after the speech ;)

The Wine and Liquor Wholesalers of America are having their annual convention in Las Vegas in April and Palin will be the keynote speaker. Hmmmm what are the odds that she will Judge a wet T-shirt contest at The Palms after the speech ;)

Yes she has been relegated already to the speaking circuit. Isn't that where all the has been's and want-to-be's wind up:D

But god forbid he starts chatting it up with Sarah Palin.

I don't think he'd ever get a word in...

I don't think he'd ever get a word in....

No I think it is the other way around, someone is not listening

The Wine and Liquor Wholesalers of America are having their annual convention in Las Vegas in April and Palin will be the keynote speaker. Hmmmm what are the odds that she will Judge a wet T-shirt contest at The Palms after the speech ;)

Judge?? I want to see her compete...

It's a gig and a pay check. The Huckster is on
Fox and it is no secret that he still harbors political ambition.
If schultz in MSNBC can parley a pundits gig into a run for office then
So can Palin . Why the misogyny ?

I see on her first appearance she's still complaining over her loss in 2008..

I see she used a big persons word too.. "Crap"!

I see on her first appearance she's still complaining over her loss in 2008..

I see she used a big persons word too.. "Crap"!!

Ah you are just jealous you didn't think of it first, but don't worry people who live in the past aren't going anywhere

Judge???? I want to see her compete....

I was trying to be nice, but I would not mind at all if she was a contestant!!

What a bunch of losers you guys are!

The more you smear Palin, the more popular she gets.

The more you smear Palin, the more popular she gets.Hello gal:

She DOES draw a crowd, doesn't she? But, I don't think she gets MORE popular. Those that love her, really, really love her, as you can attest. But, those that don't, don't, and never will.

It IS interesting to me just how big her constituency is. It could be bigger than I'd like. I know. You'd like it just fine.. I do NOT write her off, though. She's a force to be dealt with.

excon

What a bunch of losers you guys are!

The more you smear Palin, the more popular she gets.

The only losers will be you idiots if you ever elect her.

The only losers will be you idiots if you ever elect her.

"We" (not me) elected Barack.

So far, it's been free fall for the US.

You really think Palin would be worse?

Not likely!!

So far, it's been free fall for the US.

You really think Palin would be worse?Hello again, gal:

Actually, we're recovering quite nicely from the dufus years. Would it be worse with Palin? Yup.

You DO know, that your dog knows more about the US than she does. Now you might want your dog as our pres, but I wouldn't

excon

Hello again, gal:


You DO know, that your dog knows more about the US than she does. Now you might want your dog as our pres, but I wouldn't

excon

This is the kind of statement that is objectionable.

If you want to keep any credibility, you will have to stop such baseless statements.

As for recovery, how much faster would the recovery be without the billions spent on corporate welfare?

What Obama has failed at totally is to gain the CONFIDENCE of the American people. He has failed to be the head cheerleader for our country, and that is IMPORTANT.

You can't get that by apologizing to every country in the world. What he should do is remind everyone of all the good things the USA has done.
How many additional people would be enslaved and/or starving if not for this country?

What other country can you name that defeats its enimies and then helps them restore their country and economy?

What one in history?

If you want to keep any credibility, you will have to stop such baseless statements.It isn't baseless, she's an idiot. One thing I see here that proves it is that you can't support her by her actions you need to debase someone else instead.

Hello again, gal:

Actually, we're recovering quite nicely from the dufus years. Would it be worse with Palin? Yup.

You DO know, that your dog knows more about the US than she does. Now you might want your dog as our pres, but I wouldn't

excon

10 percent unemployment, a 1.4$ trillion deficit, sweetheart deals on health care where some states, unions and others are more equal than others, an elected president with the lowest approval rating ever for a 1st year guy... yeah we're recovering nicely.

10 percent unemployment, a 1.4$ trillion deficit, Hello Steve:

You guys have short memories, and little understanding of economics and bell curves.. You DO have good radio's, though.

I understand, that you don't understand (or don't want to remember) that the dufus left Obama on the doorstep of a disaster. Obama, apparently, avoided the disaster. But, he couldn't eliminate all the pain, and that pisses you guys off.

It's kind of like after you've been in a car crash and were brought into the ER in a basket. You blame the doctor (instead of the guy who crashed INTO you) because it still hurts after a few months.

It pisses Sarah Palin, and Glenn Beck off too.. But, they're as know nothing about bell curves and economics as you apparently are. They have GREAT microphones, though, and a willing audience ready to latch on to any swill they spew.

excon

This is the kind of statement that is objectionable.Hello again, gal:

In deference to you particularly, I have refrained from personal attacks upon Sarah Palin. I've even said that I think she is a wonderful person whom I'd LOVE to be the den mother of my kids cub scout pack. I respect her for having a downs syndrome baby, and for her success in general.

Nonetheless, she is ignorant of issues that are necessary for a president to know. That's just so. That's not a slight. Being ignorant is simply a lack of knowledge. I was ignorant once. Look at me now.

She can learn. She has time. But, the problem I have with her now, is she thinks she's on a mission from God and doesn't need to know any more stuff than she already knows. That is a scary proposition for me.

You can disagree, and I know you do. But, I hope you don't object to my saying it.

excon

Sarah Palin must be the most embarrassing figurehead the right has ever seen. What does she say? What is her point? NOTHING!

Her recent lovefest with Glenn Beck was of particular amusment. To see them both denouncing the "Establishment" that would not let them "have their say", whilst being seen WORLDWIDE, expessing their f%cked up take on reality, made me laugh.

So, let us sum up Sarah's "Fair and Balanced" points.

1. The Government should not do anything, unless it involves bombing people who don't embrace our way of life.

2. See 1

Sarah Palin must be the most embarrassing figurehead the right has ever seen. What does she say? What is her point? NOTHING!

Dennis Kucinich. That's all I have to say on that.


So, let us sum up Sarah's "Fair and Balanced" points.

1. The Government should not do anything, unless it involves bombing people who don't embrace our way of life.

2. See 1

That's it? That's all you've ever heard? I bet you can't back that up.

It isn't baseless, she's an idiot. One thing I see here that proves it is that you can't support her by her actions you need to debase someone else instead.

Yes, this idiot did more for the people of the state of Alaska in an abbreviated time of public service that her predecessors did in full term(s).

What an idiot, indeed!!

Hello again, gal:

In deference to you particularly, I have refrained from personal attacks upon Sarah Palin. I've even said that I think she is a wonderful person whom I'd LOVE to be the den mother of my kids cub scout pack. I respect her for having a downs syndrome baby, and for her success in general.

Nonetheless, she is ignorant of issues that are necessary for a president to know. That's just so. That's not a slight. Being ignorant is simply a lack of knowledge. I was ignorant once. Look at me now.

She can learn. She has time. But, the problem I have with her now, is she thinks she's on a mission from God and doesn't need to know any more stuff than she already knows. That is a scary proposition for me.

You can disagree, and I know you do. But, I hope you don't object to my saying it.

excon

You use the term "ignorant" in the proper way. I too think she will learn what is necessary, and I think she is a quick study. We are all ignorant of some facts or the other.

It is something else to characterize her as "idiot" as so many do. That is incorrect and unfair, and only shows lack of character on the part of those who do so.

It would actually be easier for you to come up with a clip where she DIDN'T say that sort of cr@p. She is an imbecile, and an embarrassment to the Republican Party.

Those of us who have real understanding of the political system know that Palin and Beck are in fact isolating the middle ground. FEMA deathcamps indeed.

What may well happen in the long term, is that the middle may drift right with the media paradigm, which is Rupert's goal of course. I really couldn't care less. Those concerns are for the bourgoise, not me.

It would actually be easier for you to come up with a clip where she DIDN'T say that sort of cr@p. She is an imbecile, and an embarrassment to the Republican Party.

Those of us who have real understanding of the political system know that Palin and Beck are in fact isolating the middle ground. FEMA deathcamps indeed.

What may well happen in the long term, is that the middle may drift right with the media paradigm, which is Rupert's goal of course. I really couldn't care less. Those concerns are for the bourgoise, not me.

Your "bourgoise" comment makes me wonder.

Are you a Communist?

Are you a Communist?
http://theblacksentinel.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/the_new_mccarthyism.jpg

Your "bourgoise" comment makes me wonder.

Are you a Communist?

I was acually hoping that this would provoke discussion. Bear in mind that the word "provoke" is also quite controversial, and has provoked more than one communist uprising.

Here's an idea. Why don't you try reading a book that wasn't written by Glenn Beck or Tom Clancy. In truth, most of the "proletariat" are Republican, because they are philistines.

Tells us nothing that isn't bleeding obvious but still relevant. Outside the US, Fox is viewed as a laughing stock. But unfortunately it seems that a lot of you can't see it for what it is.

Fox News Channel | Sarah Palin | Barack Obama (http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/fox-adds-a-brunette-to-blonde-weaponry-against-the-president-20100117-me9a.html)

It would actually be easier for you to come up with a clip where she DIDN'T say that sort of cr@p. She is an imbecile, and an embarrassment to the Republican Party.

It would be easier for you, but since you made the claim the burden is on you to substantiate it.


Those of us who have real understanding of the political system know that Palin and Beck are in fact isolating the middle ground. FEMA deathcamps indeed.

Oh, so you're one of those really, really smart people. What do FEMA death camps have to do with Palin?

It would be easier for you, but since you made the claim the burden is on you to substantiate it.Hello again, Steve:

What? That she's an imbecile? Can I take a crack at it?

In the Glenn Beck interview, Beck asked Palin if she'd heard about the Federal Reserve's record profits for last year, and then bemoaned that "nobody's having hearings on the Fed, nobody is looking for a windfall profit tax on the Fed, we can't even open the Fed's books."

Palin responded by thanking Beck for "bringing this to light," adding: "I don't know anybody else who is."

There's a very simple reason why no one else is talking about taxing the Fed's profits or having hearings or even discussing this, because people who know what they're talking about already know that 100 percent of the Fed's profits go to the Treasury. Every single cent.

It's not OK that she doesn't know these things.

excon

Here is what she said about the Fed in her Hong Kong address.

How can we discuss reform without addressing the government policies at the root of the problems? The root of the collapse? And how can we think that setting up the Fed as the monitor of systemic risk in the financial sector will result in meaningful reform?”...“The words 'fox' and 'henhouse' come to mind.... The Fed's decisions helped create the bubble. Look at the root cause of most asset bubbles, and you'll see the Fed somewhere in the background.”.

If I didn't know better I would swear that was Ron Paul making those comments.

Hello again, Steve:

What? That she's an imbecile?? Can I take a crack at it??


Palin responded by thanking Beck for "bringing this to light," adding: "I don't know anybody else who is."



It's not ok that she doesn't know these things.

excon

It's a case of dumb and dumber and it is a race to find out which is which.

I was acually hoping that this would provoke discussion. Bear in mind that the word "provoke" is also quite controversial, and has provoked more than one communist uprising.

Here's an idea. Why don't you try reading a book that wasn't written by Glenn Beck or Tom Clancy. In truth, most of the "proletariat" are Republican, because they are philistines.

According to YOU, who are the "bourgoise" and "proletariat"?

Maybe you should try reading something by G. Washington, T. Jefferson, J, Adams, et al.

Tells us nothing that isn't bleeding obvious but still relevant. Outside the US, Fox is viewed as a laughing stock. But unfortunately it seems that a lot of you can't see it for what it is.

Fox News Channel | Sarah Palin | Barack Obama (http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/fox-adds-a-brunette-to-blonde-weaponry-against-the-president-20100117-me9a.html)

Maybe you can tell us why Fox News is destroying the competition if it is so far off base.

The public is deserting the so called "main stream" media because the leftward list is so apparent, and they can't be trusted to tell the truth.

I think its ratings have more to do with its audience than its substance.

I think its ratings have more to do with its audience than its substance.

And how does it acquire its growing audience, oh media guru?

Fox News averaged 2.25 million total viewers in prime time for the third quarter, up 2% over the previous year. That's more than CNN (946,000, down 30%) and MSNBC (788,000, down 10%) combined.
"The O'Reilly Factor" led all cable news programs with an average of 3.295 million total viewers for the quarter, up 12% over the previous year. "Hannity" (2.603 million, up 9%), "Glenn Beck" (2.403 million, up 89%), "On the Record with Greta van Susteren" (2.150 million, up 16%), and "Special Report with Bret Baier" (1.997 million, up 20%) rounded out the top five.
Meanwhile, flagship programs at MSNBC and CNN did not sustain their growth from 3Q 2008: At MSNBC, "Countdown with Keith Olbermann" averaged 1.087 million total viewers, down 12% from the previous year and "The Rachel Maddow Show" averaged 996,000 total viewers (Maddow began the program in September 2008, so a comparison for the quarter would be inaccurate; compared to September 2008, though, Maddow's September 2009 total viewer average is down 40%). At CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360" averaged 1.005 million viewers, down 17% from the previous year and "Lou Dobbs" averaged 658,000 total viewers, down 24%. Larry King and Campbell Brown were both down just slightly in total viewers.
CNN in particular had a rough quarter in the primetime Adults 25-54 demo: the network dropped 39% compared to 3Q 2008, averaging 287,000 viewers.

Fox News Dominates 3Q 2009 Cable News Ratings (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/30/fox-news-dominates-3q-200_n_304260.html)

Clearly the dominance of FOX News channel over all it's competitors has more than a so called fringe group of rabid rightwingers watching.
And Fox would not have picked Palin as a commentator if she was without substance. If ratings suffer because she brings nothing to the table I am sure that she will not have this gig for long.

And Fox would not have picked Palin as a commentator if she was without substance. If ratings suffer because she brings nothing to the table I am sure that she will not have this gig for long.Hello tom:

Substance does NOT equal ratings, as the stats you point out show. Oh, it's substance for the empty headed masses, but it AIN'T substance for anybody who got beyond the 5th grade.

excon

That Myley Cyrus is incredibly popular isn't she? She must have an important message for the masses.

I think its ratings have more to do with its audience than its substance.

So Fox just sucked all the dumb right-wing viewers from CNN & MSNBC? What exactly are you implying here Skell?

That Myley Cyrus is incredibly popular isn't she? She must have an important message for the masses.

Hey, I like Miley AND Billy Ray. He's a good guy. You know why she's popular (I mean besides the fact that she appeals to 11 year olds)? So far she's kept her nose pretty clean, and parents would rather their children be fans of someone besides the Britney Spears' and Lindsey Lohans of the world.

Hey, I like Miley AND Billy Ray. He's a good guy. You know why she's popular (I mean besides the fact that she appeals to 11 year olds)? So far she's kept her nose pretty clean, and parents would rather their children be fans of someone besides the Britney Spears' and Lindsey Lohans of the world.
The Nazi Party was also the most popular party based on the same divisive policy and fear mongering that Fox News does.

BTW your avatar is a little creepy.

Hello again, Steve:

It's not about substance or not. It's about the CONVERSATION, as I alluded to in my other post...

Just now on Joe Scarborough, the Governor of Mass was asked whether the people understand the health care bill. He said, "well, it's complicated, as you know...."

TODAY is a little late to be thinking about HOW you're going explain this measure, even to people who have MORE than a 5th grade education. Consequently, the dems shot themselves in the foot.

The Republicans explained it in SIMPLE terms, like death panel, that people can understand... The bill will go up or down, NOT based upon its merits, but because of the CONVERSATION about it.

FOX won the conversation... But, don't think for a minute, that it has ANYTHING to do with substance.

excon

The Nazi Party was also the most popular party based on the same divisive policy and fear mongering that Fox News does.

What does that have to do with Miley Cyrus? At least FNC isn't calling for cheating against "these bastards" (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/conversation-436359-2.html#post2182220) in elections.


BTW your avatar is a little creepy.

Funny, but I never found her creepy at all (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/conversation-436359.html#post2182178).

Hello tom:

Substance does NOT equal ratings, as the stats you point out show. Oh, it's substance for the empty headed masses, but it AIN'T substance for anybody who got beyond the 5th grade.


Yeah your probably right. The masses were sold a bill of goods last November and ate it up .

That Myley Cyrus is incredibly popular isn't she? She must have an important message for the masses.
When I see Cyrus running a State I'll get your point.

It's not about substance or not. It's about the CONVERSATION, as I alluded to in my other post...

Obama promised transparency, again and again and again. That was a big part of the CONVERSATION. So far he's been more transparent on telling the world what the US has done to suspected terrorists than he has on health care negotiations.

The CONVERSATION from the media and Dems in high places was "teabaggers" were Nazis, racist bigots, domestic terrorists and all other manner of vile beings.

If you want to continue discussing the conversation I'm game.

When I see Cyrus running a State I'll get your point.I know you missed the point. :-)

The CONVERSATION from the media and Dems in high places was "teabaggers" were Nazis,
The teabaggers were the ones carrying the signs accusing the other side of being nazis.

If you want to continue discussing the conversation I'm game.Hello again, Steve:

I don't think you realize when I'm saying that you won.

excon

The teabaggers were the ones carrying the signs accusing the other side of being nazis.

That was Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House.

Hello again, Steve:

I don't think you realize when I'm saying that you won.

I know you're saying that, just not discussing the conversation from the other side. They're both relevant... and it's far from over.

That was Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House.Hello again, Steve:

The CONVERSATION, as evidenced right here, is that the OTHER guy said it... Whereas, in reality, BOTH sides said it. And, IT became the subject of the conversation, - rather than the underlying policies, and IT remains so to this day, again, as evidenced by OUR conversations right smack here.

That means, YOU WON the conversation. Don't for a minute, though, think you did it because you're RIGHT. You're NOT. You're just better at grabbing sound bites.

excon

The CONVERSATION, as evidenced right here, is that the OTHER guy said it... Whereas, in reality, BOTH sides said it. And, IT became the subject of the conversation, - rather than the underlying policies, and IT remains so to this day, again, as evidenced by OUR conversations right smack here.

And again the difference is 'our side' condemns idiots on ]our side' that may carry an Obama sign with a Hitler mustache, while the other side labels us all.


That means, YOU WON the conversation. Don't for a minute, though, think you did it because you're RIGHT. You're NOT. You're just better at grabbing sound bites.

I think in this case the left was just too good at shooting themselves in the foot. Portraying us as "domestic terrorists" and such, showing news footage to portray us as racist bigots while hiding the fact it was a black man they were filming, shamelessly fawning over Obama like an 11-year-old in the presence of Miley Cyrus, and more importantly, shamelessly ignoring the will of the people.

Hello tom:

Substance does NOT equal ratings, as the stats you point out show. Oh, it's substance for the empty headed masses, but it AIN'T substance for anybody who got beyond the 5th grade.

excon

It must be awfully lonely and cold at the altitude you inhabit.:D

Oh, so you're one of those really, really smart people. What do FEMA death camps have to do with Palin?

You are quite right, I was referring to Beck of course. My apologies. To be fair to Sarah, she did look quite uncomfortable during her interview with Glenn. Particularly when he pulled out his notebook, in which he had written down all the things they had in common (snigger).


It would be easier for you, but since you made the claim the burden is on you to substantiate it
This is a common epistemic error, usually espoused by atheists. I have made a claim, to wit, "Sarah Palin has stated no firm political strategy, for ANYTHING!"

You counter with "show me that this is the case". I say that is absurd. It would be far more useful for you to show me such a strategy, as you obviously know what it is.

According to YOU, who are the "bourgoise" and "proletariat"?

Perhaps the distinction could best be shown by visiting your local Court. There is one class of people prosecuting, the other is being prosecuted.


Maybe you should try reading something by G. Washington, T. Jefferson, J, Adams, et al.

I'm sure I will. I did have the chance to read Thomas Paine's "The Rights of Man" last month. Quite inspiring, if incredibly naïve. Perhaps you should like to comment on the first chapter (his rebuke of Burke), which I felt would be well read by those who proclaim the primacy of the original constitution?

Paine ;although instrumental in the revolution ('Common Sense' ) could hardly be called a founding father . By the time of the Constitution he was more in line with the French version of revolution. He in fact was a critic of the Constitution as written.

To best understand the founders rationale I go the 'Federalist Papers 'written by Madison, Hamilton ,and Jay .

Please stick to the original topic 'lest these off-topic posts all get deleted.

Sorry ;no can do .I am devotee of Tangentialism.

Have we ever stayed on topic? Why change now?

Since the clearinghouse deleted posts from another thread.

To best understand the founders rationale I go the 'Federalist Papers 'written by Madison, Hamilton ,and Jay.

Thank you tomder55, I will indeed read them when I get the chance. Of course I would not dare to suggest that Paine was a Founding Father, however he is the most "relevant" writer (that is to say, closest to the time, place) I have read, apart from the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution itself.

America must be the most fascinating country on earth. Also, the craziest.

America must be the most fascinating country on earth. Also, the craziest.

Yes. We fight an enemy, defeat him, and then help him up and rebuild his country for him.

Conservatives want to preserve those liberties embodied in the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution, and those qualities of enterprise and self-reliance that made this country great.

Liberals, who should be properly called progressives or socialists want to change the Constitution by whatever means possible, make government bigger and more intrusive, and make most citizens dependent on government for their every need.

They think that government should make everyone equal.

Free men are not equal and equal men are not free.

galveston, you're a legend.

Since the clearinghouse deleted posts from another thread.

Now that's a scary avatar.

Just a note on who was more fair and balanced last night, besides the Olbermann and Matthews nonsense. Only one cable news network carried both candidate's speeches in their entirety, the other 2 only carried a fraction of Brown's speech.

http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/blog/user_files/speeches.jpg

I have to say ,Coakley's concession was gracious ,Kirk has been cooperative ,and the Dems did not do the shenanigans I expected to stall the results.

Maybe that was also a political calculation ,however the transfer has been to date by the book.

Free men are not equal and equal men are not free.

Here's another one worth remembering:

You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. [Robert Heinlein]

Just a note on who was more fair and balanced last night, besides the Olbermann and Matthews nonsense. Only one cable news network carried both candidate's speeches in their entirety, the other 2 only carried a fraction of Brown's speech.

http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/blog/user_files/speeches.jpg

So what you are saying is they watch Fox in Boston and they do what Murdoch says like nice little puppets

America must be the most fascinating country on earth. Also, the craziest.


We love it!! Stick around.. this is too much fun!!

we love it!! Stick around.. this is too much fun!!

I actually can't wait to visit. Something tells me that I will find the very best, and also the very worst of humanity.

So what you are saying is they watch Fox in Boston and they do what Murdoch says like nice little puppets

Um, not sure how you got that. What I'm saying is Fox, the allegedly most biased network, carried both speeches in their entirety-they let both sides speak for themselves. The other 2 cut the Republican way short and engaged in partisan bloviating instead.

I actually can't wait to visit. Something tells me that I will find the very best, and also the very worst of humanity.

Far more of the former I'm sure.