Hello everyone

I am in the process of relocating my master bathroom and I am not 100% sure on how to do the pvc plumbing . I have done some plumbing before but pvc has always have been my weakness to do it according to code . So if someone would be able to help me with the draining and venting schematic I would really really appreciate it. I CAN EMAIL ANYONE A LAYOUT OF THE BATHROOM I CANNOT POST IT YET BECAUSE I AM A NEW MEMBER.

Thank you very much
Jeff

Drawing up schematics on the net is definitely not my strong point(actually never done it), but one of the other pros here will most likey be along shortly to help you in that area. We will need some more detail as to what fixtures will be in the bathroom. Hopefully one of them will be able to tell you how to post a diagram, as I'm sure you can even if you are a new member. Once I see the diagram, I may be able to help. Between Tom, Mark, Bob, Milo, afaroo, Kiss, letmetellu, someone should be able to help you out. I will say that Mark has the drawings down to a science, so hope you can wait for these guys. (hope I didn't forget anybody.. lol)

I THINK time may allow you to upload. You MAY be able to upload in a day or so. Use go advanced/manage attachments I don't think links are disabled, so I think you can use other services such as Photobucket. It doesn't support all document types such as .PDF though.

Hi all..

Yeah, posting is pretty easy. As Kiss indicated, go to the box below and post a return message. You'll see a Go Advanced button next to the Post Quick Answer button... click on the Go Advanced button. That will bring you to a new screen where you will scroill the page down to the Manage Attachments button. Click on Manage Attachments and a new window will pop up that will allow you to Browse images in your library of pictures. Click on Browse and double click on the image(s) you want to post. Finally, click on Upload and your pics. Will upload to the thread. End it all by clicking on the Save Changes button and your entire answer will post to this page.

Finally, like MGD77 said, there are more than a few of us capable of and glad to help with all phases of your plumbing project. Post the image when you can and we'll hop right on it!

Please be sure to let us know what plumbing code prevails in your area (call a local plumbing inspector and ask if you don't know) and see if you can find out if WET VENTING is allowed. That will allow us to focus on working up a finished plumbing schematic for you... ;)

MARK

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You guys are the best for trying to help I hope this diagram is helpful . I have been a carpenter for 25yrs so if anyone needs advice let me know.

Thanks again
Jeffrey

I also live in New Jersey if that helps with the different plumbing codes

Thanks
Jeff

Thanks for the layout. Mark's the top expert for drawing up prints. He should be along shortly. Good luck, Tom

Hi Jeff...

New Jersey is using the 2006 national standard plumbing code so wet venting is allowed. The good news is that will save you time and money as you will NOT have to run all individual vents for each fixture. Your jacuzzi exceeds the distance requirement from the wet vent so you will be adding an additional vent for the shower and the jacuzzi... I will explain later.

A few more questions, please...

What size are your joists?

What direction are the joists running?

Where is the waste pipe in relation to the toilet?

Does this bathroom have a vent stack that goes all the way up and out the roof? If so, what size is it?

How many other bathrooms in the house?

Do any of these other bathrooms have a 3 or 4" vent stack penetrating the roof?

Answer these questions and I'll post a drawing soon thereafter. I have already started it... ;)

MARK

hi mark

thank you very much for all your help.
OK I am going to answer all of your questions the to the best of my ability.

1. the size of my floor joist are 2x10
2. they are running parallel with my jacuzzi or pedestals
3. the waste pipe is app 21 feet to the right of the toilet
4. this bathroom has nothing has far as a vent stack . But they are knee walls on the second floor above the toilet and shower , maybe for new penetrations? I don't know if this info helps
5. just one bathroom for now .

thanks again it nice that there are people out there who want to help me.

thanks again
jeffrey

Hi Jeff:

The waste pipe is 21 feet from the new toilet location? Do you have to drill through joists to get to the toilet? If so, you have a problem right there.

Can you manage to get into the same joist bay as the toilet by bringing a new 3" PVC pipe up from inside a wall below this bathroom? What is below this bathroom?

And you said you have one bathroom... is this the one bathroom we are speaking about or do you have another bathroom? Wondering where the vent stack is that goes through the roof?

Back to you...

For Mark, I'll bet that fine lines for the joists would help as well as nearby waste pipes even if it's off the drawing.

Don't worry about 100% accuracy, although it's better for you since you will be permitting this thing,

For instance, Your going to have to know if there is a stud in the middle of the toilet discharge.

It looks like you can share some small ZIP files, 97K, so you might be able to agree on sometihing standard. Use PDF's or JPG's when posting for everyone to see.

Hello my fellow experts

1. Yes the waste pipe is app 21 feet to the right of the new location of the toilet. I don't have to drill through the joist because the waste pipe would run parallel to the joist . There is also a basement below. The basement is wide open for me to do whatever you guys want me to do. The toilet lands right in the middle of two floor joist.

2. This is my only bathroom . There is not an existing vent stack that goes through the roof . But on the second floor above this bathroom there is a knee wall app 4 feet from the toilel bowl wall . So maybe this might be a good spot to make a new penetration through the roof? I have no idea ?

I am going to take pics of the actual bathroom and I am going to post them so you guys can get the visual aspect of it.

Once again guys thank you very much for all your help.
Have a good night

Jeffrey

We'll wait for the updated pics.

Thanks...

MARK

I am going to post the pics tomorrow I went there today but I forgot to take the pics.

Thanks
Jeffrey

I'm here every day or so, glad to help!

Hello

Here are the actual pics of the bathroom hope these pics help.

If there is anything I can do to help please feel free to ask me.


Thanks again

Tak a pic of the basement. Put something at the waste of the toilet for a reference. If you can put something for reference measurements like a ruler or something with a known dimension like a 2 x 4 cut to 1'. I think that would be great,

We would already know the stud spacing and that would suffice for the basement. All Mark would need is a point of reference. Toilet seems easy.

This would give an idea as to what to work with downstairs.

Hello guys

Here are the pics of the basement floor joist . The picture where you see a roll of white paper tape that's exactly where the toilet bowl drain is . It lands right in between the basement floor joist . I also took other pics so you can see it is all open below and the floor joist are parallel with jacuzzi.
So drilling through floor joist is not necessary .

Thanks again for eveybodys help

Jeffrey

Hi Jeff...

Pics. Are great... THANK YOU!

I'll finish drawing this all up for you and should have it posted by tomorrow night... OK?

MARK

Hi mark

Thank you very much if you need anything else let me know.

Jeff

Hi Jeff...

Sorry, but I need to know exactly where your main drain that you will be connecting into is inrelation to this bathroom.

Can you take the line drawing that you made and simply add a red dot or red line showing me where the main drain pipe is? What material is the main drain made of?

I had this drawn up and then I realized that I could be directing you to do a lot of uneeded work if the pipe is in the wrong place.

That should finally finalize this... promise!

Thank you...

MARK

HI MARK

Sorry it took so long for me to answer but I never scrolled all the way on the 2nd page so I did not see your response. I attached a new line drawing below with the red line being my main drain line . It is 3" pvc and it is about 21 feet to the right of the new toilet location.

Thanks mark I will be home all weekend so my responses will be very quick .

Thanks again
Jeffrey

Hi Jeff...

Well, it took a bit, but here we go... ;)

You said your house didn't have a vent going through the roof. It needs a minimum of a 3" vent stack through the roof...all houses do.

I have drawn all this up with a 3" vent stack going up the wall behind the toilet and that 3" vent will penetrate the roof...should stick up 18"-24" above the roof. If you decide you don't want the 3" vent stack then I will draw this up again without it, but I highly recommend that you take the time to bring your house up to code at this time!

I have drawn up the vent for the 2 sinks as a 2" vent, it could be reduced to 1.5" if you are going with the 3" vent stack out the roof. Where the jacuzzi/shower vent connects with the sink vent should be increased to 2" and then connect into an INVERTED 3"x2" sanitary tee wye fitting in the 3" vent stack. All these vents will connect in the bathroom ceiling (drill joists) or you could run them upstairs and connect all up there. Remember here, that when you connect the vents into each other you need to INVERT the sanitary tee wye fitting.

Vents need to pitch at about 1/8" per foot of pipe back toward the drain so rain/snow water drain back to the drain by gravity. The vent stack should be supported at the base of the stack and a 3" dandy cleanout should be installed as indicated in the drawing (also called a 3" test tee).

All waste pipes need to be hung every 4 feet. A cleanout is chown at the main drain line as you change direction... be sure to install this as it is required.

Where you come from the basement to pick up the sinks use a 2" long sweep 90 degree elbow. Use a 2"x1.5" double sanitary tee wye fitting to pick up both sinks. Use regular 90s to stub out of the wall, but do NOT cement a pipe in the 90s to stick out of the wall... DRY FIT (just stick an 8" piece of pipe in each elbow) these pipes for now and later when installing finish you can remove these pipes and cut them down to the proper length! This is ABSOLUTELY required for pedestal sinks (we can discuss toward finish). A 2" dandy cleanout should be installed below the floor in the 2" drain for the sinks... you will appreciate it in the future should the sinks clog (not included in my drawings).

Finally, review all details as drawn and let me know if you have questions... OK?

MARK

Hello mark

This looks fantastic it looks really good . I can understand everything , well almost everything:). My only question is on the 3" drain line going to the toilet what do i put there to pick up the toilet ? a 3" ty to pick it up? Or a reg 3" t. I hope you understand by the way i'm asking. but as for now i am pretty confident . This looks GREAT. Oh 1 more thing should i pitch the drain pipes 1/8" per foot too like the vent pipes. Hey Mark I want to do something for you too for your kindness on helping me out .

Thanks again
Jeffrey

Slope the drain pipes at 1/4" per foot minimum.

Thanks mygirlsdad

Thanks again'
Jeff

Hi Jeffrey:

Glad to help! I revised the drawing above a bit... included an end cleanout for the shower/jacuzzi... check it out.

As MGD pointed out, 1/4" per foot of pipe is code requirement (thanks MGD, meant to put that in my post).

Use a WYE fitting into a 3" elbow to pick up the toilet. Use only WYE FITTINGS on the drain pipes. Sanitary tees can be used on the vertical drains to pick up sinks... ;)

Sanitary tee fittings can be used on horizontal and vertical vent piping... just pay attention to inverting the fittings so water drains back from the vents to the drains.

Finally, we also need to discuss testing this system... needs to be filled with water to test all. I'll post on that next.

MARK

Hello Mark

I saw the updated sketch with the new revised vent for the jacuzzi and shower and also the cleanout there . I am in the process of making a material list so I cn pick up the stuff tomorrow.

Thanks again
Jeffrey