sawback
Nov 11, 2006, 12:49 AM
Hi folks:
I would like to install a shower that drains into the same drain as my washing machine.
Right now the washing machine drain, 1-1/2" ABS, comes in horizontally about 12" above the concrete floor into a 1-1/2" Tee on a vertical pipe. From this Tee, the vent goes straight up to the roof, and the drain, of course, goes straight down. Before entering the concrete slab it goes to 2" ABS and has a cleanout that is flush with the slab.
This vertical pipe (would this be called a "stack"?) is in a wall in the corner where I will be installing the shower, so it's pretty handy.
There is a cleanout directly above the cement slab.
Although I would only need to dig up a few square feet of concrete, I'm not all that crazy about the idea, having spent a couple of hours today doing that for the toilet--it wasn't fun. So, I'm thinking about platforming the shower.
So here is my intended setup, I'm wondering if anyone could comment on whether it would work:
1. I'm thinking of commissioning the existing cleanout as a junction to feed the shower drain into, i.e. finding an ABS fitting that goes male 1-1/2 to a threaded fitting into the cleanout. I'm interested in this simply because changing the current cleanout to a T would require digging up a fair bit of concrete (as it's flush with the slab).
2. I'd place a new cleanout just above the existing re-commissioned cleanout, between the washing machine Tee and the old cleanout.
3. I would put a P-trap between the shower drain and the re-commisioned cleanout/junction. I'm assuming that the min. height for the platform would be enough to put a P-trap in? And is a P-trap just a U-shaped fitting? What is the difference between this and an S-trap? I've read elsewhere that an S-trap is required.. I really don't know anything about this trap stuff so please be specific.
4. Question about dry/wet venting: would the section of pipe between the washer's Tee into the vertical pipe and the shower's "Tee"/re-commissioned clean-out be considered a "wet vent" since the venting for the shower would be shared with the drain for the washer? And if so, should I change this to 2" instead of 1-1/2"? (I didn't indicate this in my drawing below).
Here is a diagram of my proposal:
http://sawback.com/plumbing.jpg
Click here if it doesn't show up for some reason. (http://sawback.com/plumbing.jpg)
Thanks for the great site and to all of the experts who put so much effort into steering us neophytes right,
Tom Wolfe
I would like to install a shower that drains into the same drain as my washing machine.
Right now the washing machine drain, 1-1/2" ABS, comes in horizontally about 12" above the concrete floor into a 1-1/2" Tee on a vertical pipe. From this Tee, the vent goes straight up to the roof, and the drain, of course, goes straight down. Before entering the concrete slab it goes to 2" ABS and has a cleanout that is flush with the slab.
This vertical pipe (would this be called a "stack"?) is in a wall in the corner where I will be installing the shower, so it's pretty handy.
There is a cleanout directly above the cement slab.
Although I would only need to dig up a few square feet of concrete, I'm not all that crazy about the idea, having spent a couple of hours today doing that for the toilet--it wasn't fun. So, I'm thinking about platforming the shower.
So here is my intended setup, I'm wondering if anyone could comment on whether it would work:
1. I'm thinking of commissioning the existing cleanout as a junction to feed the shower drain into, i.e. finding an ABS fitting that goes male 1-1/2 to a threaded fitting into the cleanout. I'm interested in this simply because changing the current cleanout to a T would require digging up a fair bit of concrete (as it's flush with the slab).
2. I'd place a new cleanout just above the existing re-commissioned cleanout, between the washing machine Tee and the old cleanout.
3. I would put a P-trap between the shower drain and the re-commisioned cleanout/junction. I'm assuming that the min. height for the platform would be enough to put a P-trap in? And is a P-trap just a U-shaped fitting? What is the difference between this and an S-trap? I've read elsewhere that an S-trap is required.. I really don't know anything about this trap stuff so please be specific.
4. Question about dry/wet venting: would the section of pipe between the washer's Tee into the vertical pipe and the shower's "Tee"/re-commissioned clean-out be considered a "wet vent" since the venting for the shower would be shared with the drain for the washer? And if so, should I change this to 2" instead of 1-1/2"? (I didn't indicate this in my drawing below).
Here is a diagram of my proposal:
http://sawback.com/plumbing.jpg
Click here if it doesn't show up for some reason. (http://sawback.com/plumbing.jpg)
Thanks for the great site and to all of the experts who put so much effort into steering us neophytes right,
Tom Wolfe