I am looking for ways to advertise my retail gift site for free or as cheap as possible until I get some cash flow out of it. Then I might be able to spend a little.

Clough any ideas you could give me would be great. Any ideas from anyone else would be good too.

Jared

Hi, Jared!

Okay, let's go with this!

What are you presently doing for advertising, please?

Thanks!

Hi,
Check out this book...

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It gives tons of awesome tips for promoting your site. Click on the link then click on the book to view it. This book is available at the library too. My friends have used it. I poked through it and was amazed at the great ideas. If I see my friends this weekend, I'll ask which tips worked best.

Click Here: http://www.wilsonweb.com/articles/checklist.htm

I am not doing anything for advertising as of yet. I have just gotten the site up.

Jared

Hi again, jddollen!

I'll be around later tonight... Probably about 10:00 P.M. my time. I'm in the Central Time Zone in the United States.

What time zone are you in, please?

summer7, I can get someone noticed in Internet searches in minutes... even on the first page of the search!

There's no need for someone to buy something when the information that they might need is available for free!

Thanks!

Hi again, jddollen!

I'll be around later tonight... Probably about 10:00 P.M., my time. I'm in the Central Time Zone in the United States.

What time zone are you in, please?

summer7, I can get someone noticed in Internet searches in minutes... even on the first page of the search!

There's no need for someone to buy something when the information that they might need is available for free

Thanks!

Wonderful... I look forward to reading your tips Clough (from an expert!) It's still a good reference and you can check it out free from the library as I mentioned above. :)

I am also in the central time zone. I live in Iowa. I will make sure that I am on at 10 then.

Jared

I'm here now, Jared. I'm sorry that I'm late!

Craig

OK I am late too sorry

You still here?

Damn I think I missed him

No, you didn't! I'm right here!

Are you a member of any advertising sites at all, please?

Thanks!

Hi again, Jared!

I'm still here and now wondering where you are? I can see that you're still logged on here.

If you're not a member of Everything from Everywhere (http://www.hoobly.com/) (hoobly.com), would you please join it and let me know, on this thread, when you have joined it, please?

Thanks!

I am here are you?

Did you join hoobly.com yet?

Sorry I missed you I did register with that site

I am here and yes I did

Did you join that site just right now?

OK what do I do now
??

Yes
Just now

I apologize for not seeing you earlier I did not notice the page 2 of the forum and did not look on it for you Sorry

Are you there?

No problem! At least we're now connecting!

Now, we need to work on an ad to place on the site. With that site, if the ad is worded properly, it will appear on the first page of a Google search within minutes.

Please describe to me, the kind of things that you would like to sell.

Thanks!

Oh sweet
We sell fantasy items, décor , oil burners, figurines statues, sword, fairy figurines and lamps, incense burners and holders. Fantasy theme candles and some goth items

Dragon Statues and figurines also

Will these items only be sold via the Internet, or do you also have a shop somewhere?

If you want you can go look at the website.

It is

DragonCrest Gifts! (Powered by CubeCart) (http://www.dragoncrest.net)

Just on the net for right now

Okay, now I've seen your site. It looks great!

If you were to do searches for the kind of things that you sell, what would be some of the terms that you might use, please?

Thanks!

Dragon,sword,fairy,figurine,dragon figurine, atomizer, fantasy figurine, candle, oil burner, incense burner, incense holder, lantern, medeivel,unicorns, coat of arms, coffee mug, chess,mirror, dragon statue, chess, chess set,
Frame, photo frame, wall sconce, wall paque, goth,gothic, accessories, skull, table lamp, goth accessories,book ends, sign, fantasy

Well it says you are off line so I guess you got tired of waiting form my answer. I am going to hang out for a few and wait for a response then it is bed time.

Hey, I'm still online! I'm just using the invisible mode. Will respond to your keywords in just a bit...

Thanks!

OK I see your post

Okay, now I've "uncloaked" myself!

Please open up another browser and log on to hoobly.com.

Thanks!

I did that already I have it open

Thanks for uncloaking you Romulan you... lol

Yeah, I love Star Trek! :)

I'm adding some words to your keywords and doing a search for the competition you might have to see what words they might be using.

Here are links to some of the searches. Please check them out.

Link One, (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Fantasy+Gifts+for+Sale&aq=f&oq=&aqi=) Link Two, (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&ei=ThASS8ztD5C1tgeD_5HrCg&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CAUQBSgA&q=Fantasy+and+Gothic+Gifts+for+Sale&spell=1) Link Three (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Dragoncrest+Gifts&aq=f&oq=&aqi=)

Thanks!

"Fantasy and Gothic Gifts for Sale", without the quote marks, would seem to be an appropriate title for an ad.

OK

OK got it

OK what should I do now?

Okay, let's post an ad on hoobly.com using that title.

I think that your welcome on your site would be good for the body of the ad.

I've attached a document here with additional keywords for you.

It's important to not look like we're using this site for advertising. By attaching the document, it won't appear on the Internet when people do searches for things.

Please let me know when you've formatted your ad, but haven't yet posted it.

Thanks!

By the way, I needed to use Excel rather than Word, because the Word document was too large of a file to upload here.

Thanks!

OK can you like give me a sample ad and where do I put all the keywords?

And it has the ad area just for Council Bluffs, Ia is that all I am going to get or can we change that to the whole US?

Let me go to hoobly.com and check things out. Have been having some computer problems in the last few minutes...

Like I already mentioned in post #42, I think that your welcome on your site would be good for the body of the ad.

Keywords would go at the bottom of the ad. Were you able to read all of the keywords in the document?

Clough I got to go soon it is 1 am and I got to get up at 7am

Okay, I have to go soon, also. I believe if you put the name of the city with a comma after it and then the full name of the state, you should be okay.

I'm going to delete your post with the actual ad in it. I've taken note of it. I know that you don't intend to be using this site for advertising, but since the ad is there, it will show up in searches.

Please hang on here for a few more minutes if you can.

Please do post your ad on hoobly.com.

Thanks!

OK now will it only advertise for Council Bluffs, Ia on Google?

What the location means is that's where you're located. It doesn't affect the exposure when people do searches on the Internet, unless you put locations in your actual ad.

What I meant was for you to put the whole welcome from your website at the beginning of your ad. And put the keywords separately at the bottom of the ad in another, separate paragraph. Please also put your first and last name as well as your phone number in the ad because that will make you look more credible.

Thanks!

Whoops can I go edit the add?

I also thought that you were going to title it Fantasy and Gothic Gifts for Sale.

That's what people are going to be looking for, not so much the name of your business.

Please click on the following links to see how I've worded some of my Christmas ads.

Link One, (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&fkt=3020&fsdt=10540&q=Quad+Cities+Christmas&aq=f&oq=&aqi=) Link Two (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Unique+and+Unusual+Christmas+Gift+Ideas&aq=f&oq=&aqi=)

Thanks!

I did title it that it is in bold blue print.

whoops can I go edit the add?

Yes, you can edit the ad anytime.

Try typing Clough in a search on hoobly.com. You'll be able to see all of the ads that I have on it.

If you study and word ads you place on any site, similar to the way that I word any ads on any site, you'll get an idea as to how to word ads.

You'll see that frequently I'll put the names of surrounding cities, towns and counties as well as the names of Iowa and Illinois in my ads.

Thanks!

I did title it that it is in bold blue print.

Okay, I'm sorry!

I'll go look for your ad on hoobly.com

Thanks!

Why do you use cities and states in your ads?

If you do a search for that title on Google, you'll see that you're first! :)

why do you use cities and states in your ads?

So that people in any of the cities or these two states will find me looking for what I do, where I do it.

For what title?

Here is a link to where I took off the last two words of the title to your ad, and your still on the first page in a Google search.

Link (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Fantasy+And+Gothic+Gifts&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=)

In that search, I'm seeing lots of other keywords and phrases that you could be using in your ads.

Thanks!

OK if you have time copy and paste me a list and I can put several ads up with different titles so I get into different categories on Google can't I ?

I appreciate your help and I am so going to bed now. If you have anything else is 10 the normal time you are on here?

Thanks Clough I am going to call it a night I really appreciate your help

for what title?

I have many titles that I use. Please click on the following links.

Link One (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&ei=ECMSS8CxDM2UtgermZ3rCg&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CAUQBSgA&q=Piano+Lessons,+Music+Teacher+Quad+Cities&spell=1)

Link Two (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Piano+Tuning+in+Rock+Island%2C+IL&aq=f&oq=&aqi=)
I'm the "Absolute" one and most if not all of the listings for a number of pages in the search.

Link Three (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Quad+Cities+Piano+Tuner&aq=f&oq=&aqi=)

Link Four (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Quad+City+Furniture+Refinishing&aq=f&oq=&aqi=)

Link Five (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Party+Pianist+in+Rock+Island%2C+IL&aq=f&oq=&aqi=)

Link Six (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Quad+Cities+Painting+and+Decorating&aq=f&oq=&aqi=)

No problem! It's been my pleasure! I wish for you a good sleep! :)

I'll be listing some other sites that are essentials for people to join.

Thanks!

I appreciate your help and I am so going to bed now. If you have anything else is 10 the normal time you are on here?

Yes, usually I'm on here at about 10:00 P.M. on. Although, sometimes I do get started considerably later.

Thanks!

Here are some other sites that are great ones where a person can be a member and advertise for free!

All of the sites below, are where the information that you post on them appears to be permanent and without expiration. Almost all other free advertising sites have expirations. I actually still got some ads out there that are a number of years old where the information is now dated. I would like to get rid of those ads. However, on one or two of those sites, it seems like it's impossible to edit anything. Even though those sites might get excellent exposure, I now make sure that anything that I put on them is exactly what I want to be posted and so that the information won't ever become out-of-date.

MerchantCircle.com | Find new customers. (http://www.merchantcircle.com/corporate/)

Naymz: Over one million people use Naymz to build professional relationships. (http://www.naymz.com/)

Relationships Matter | LinkedIn (http://www.linkedin.com/)

I have no idea how old you are, but the site below is generally for people who are 40+, 50+ etc.
The Online Community for BOOMers | eons.com (http://www.eons.com/)

All of the above sites get excellent exposure when people do searches for things on the Internet. They are also sites where it appears that the people running the sites want the content of their sites to be of a very high quality. So, doing things like putting a whole bunch of keywords in ads might be considered to be spamming.

If I knew what I know now about Internet advertising, hoobly.com would be the first site that I would use for advertising. With the proper wording, the ad can appear within minutes of a Google search. We found that out tonight. When I finally did a search for the title of your ad, yours was first in the search, and that was without doing a "vanity" search. Those other "permanent" sites, would be the next ones that I would join.

I'll discuss about other free advertising sites at a another time...

Thanks!

No problem! It's been my pleasure! I wish for you a good sleep! :)

I'll be listing some other sites that are essentials for people to join.

Thanks!

Awesome stuff Clough. Thanks! I'm going to have to read all your previous posts now. Lots of good info.

Hi, summer7!

In that second link that you had posted, there were some really great ideas, also! :)

Thanks!

How's it going for you now, Jared?

Thanks!