Hi. I am a medium-light skinned black person(mostly on the light side).

But I wanted to lighten my skin to the complexion of MJ in these photo:
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/bad/shortfilms/sd/001.jpg

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/bad/shortfilms/bad/015.jpg

Now like I said, my complexion now is pretty light, but not all that light like in the pics here. And that's the look I want.

Now I did some research and I read that MJ(and his sister LaToya) used a cream called 'Porcelana'.
Buy Porcelana Fade Dark Spots Nighttime Treatment Online at drugstore.com (http://www.drugstore.com/qxp85875_333181_sespider/porcelana/fade_dark_spots_nighttime_treatment.htm)
Buy Porcelana Fade Dark Spots DaytimeTreatment Online at drugstore.com (http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=85876&catid=76147&trx=GFI-0-RVP-76147&trxp1=76147&trxp2=85876&trxp3=1&trxp4=1&btrx=BUY-GFI-0-RVP-76147)

But It was hard for me to find both the daytime and nighttime porcelana creams in my local stores.

So I bought the 'Palmers Skin Success Eventone Fade Cream'.
Buy Skin Success Eventone Fade Cream, Regular Online at drugstore.com (http://www.drugstore.com/qxp15015_333181_sespider/skin_success/eventone_fade_cream_regular.htm)

I only put it on the places where I know people will see. Like basically from my chest up. Including arms, neck, and face.

Now which cream would you suggest I use? Which one is better and will give me better results?

And is it OK to switch cream brands?

I also heard that taking at least 500mg of Vitamin C will inhibit the production of mealin(spelling) in the skin. Is that true?

Thanks in advance.

I don't think vitamin c will completely inhibit the production of melanin, but it can help assist with inhibition along w/ a good lightener. I'm taking 1000mg liquid vitamin c, but I am thinking that you can get more results if applied topically.
http://www.whiterskin.info/how-taking-extra-vitamin-c-lightens-skin/

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-lightening/yes-vitamin-c-serums-work-415681.html

I never used the palmer's skin success, but I doubt it can give you a lot of lightening, but maybe some of the other members have used it and can give more info on how it lightens.

Thanks. Anyone else have ideas?

I very much doubt that porcelana is what the 2 Jackson siblings used and I believe that it would be very unlikely that any info on what they use would be posted on the net. It is probably somone's marketing ploy to get people to try and use it. I have seen this Porcelana product before but never heard anything significant about it.


I have tried Palmers and did not find it that effective in my experience.

Ohhh MJ, why didn't you STOP right there!? So cute!

Neither Porcelana or Palmers will get you that light, those over the counter products are not that strong and have low percentage of hydroquinone.

You need a stronger hq cream like 4% and retin A should help you out. You posted you were already light those two products should do the trick.

thanks. anyone else have ideas?


Yup, we are basically getting the same idea,
OMG.

I also have the goal to reach that complexion,

And I am very light, biracial.

So it is almost a 2 or highest 3 shades away.

I am 1 shade away, from how MJ looked in "CAPTAIN EO"

I normally use

Retin A, and HQ strong one 4%.

Ohhh MJ, why didn't you STOP right there!?! So cute!!

Neither Porcelana or Palmers will get you that light, those over the counter products are not that strong and have low percentage of hydroquinone.

You need a stronger hq cream like 4% and retin A should help you out. You posted you were already light those two products should do the trick.


Yup, we are basically getting the same idea,
OMG.

i also have the goal to reach that complexion,

and i am very light, biracial.

soo it is almost a 2 or highest 3 shades away.

I am 1 shade away, from how MJ looked in "CAPTAIN EO"

I normally use

Retin A, and HQ strong one 4%.

Thanks guys.

Where can I get these without prescription from a doctor?

Where and what should I buy?

Thanks.

https://www.alldaychemist.com/search.php?search_query=hydroquinone

https://www.alldaychemist.com/448__Tretinoin-

Cool man. Thanks.

Now which ones exactly would you suggest I use for the BEST results?

And in addition to the post above, how should this be applied daily?

Like should I use it twice a day? And how should I put it on? Like should I put the Retin A then the HQ or the HQ then the Retin A?

And in addition to the post above, how should this be applied daily?

Like shoudl I use it twice a day? And how should I put it on? Like should I put the Retin A then the HQ or the HQ then the Retin A?


You have to buy both the Retin A and Hydroquinone,
And I will suggest you buy an exfoliating soap,
Such as these,
HOW TO APPLY:
I wash my face with the soap, and shortly after I do apply the Retin A,
Then 20-25 min. later I will apply the Hydroquinone

http://www.nyah-beauty.com/images/uploads/texasbeautysupplycom_1979_107701134.gif

Or this one, I use currently
http://www.nyah-beauty.com/images/uploads/complexion_soap_cl_essence.jpg

mobster how weird you just gave COMPLETELY the same regime as I'm using! Haha

mobster how wierd you just gave COMPLETELY the same regime as im using! haha

I think it's the most effective.

By the way. Is it only me, or does it stink and burn sometimes,

Thanks guys.

Now which is a stronger does of Retin A?

0.1

0.05

0.25

0.04

0.1% is the strongest. That's the one I use.

0.1% is the strongest. that's the one I use.



Yup me too agree.

Me too!
Haha yeah its brning me
Do you know what I should say as an excuse for my face peeling? :S

Thanks guys.

I'm really surprised how cheap that site is selling that stuff for. Its amazing.

Now what's the lightest 4% HQ and Retin A will make me?

Thanks guys.

Now which is a stronger does of Retin A?

0.1

0.05

0.25

0.04


scale 1-4, 4 being the strongest
0.1 - 4, strongest

0.05 - 3

0.04 - 2

0.025 - 1, weakest

I believe if you continue with your regimen of the hq/tret, it can lighten you several shades lighter maybe up to a Caucasian complexion if you continue to use for a long period. But will not depig the skin, you'll have undertones.

Are you guys talking about the smell of the hq? Yeah, mine smells too. I'm kind of use to it now, still burns sometimes

Also with the question above.

How many times a day do you think I should use 4% HQ and Retin A?

And how long will it take to work?

Also with the question above.

How many times a day do you think I should use 4% HQ and Retin A?

And how long will it take to work?

you only need to use hq 2x a day and retin a 1x a day or everyother day, depending on your sensitivity to them. You can even use hq in the am on the days you use retin-a in the pm

You guys are lucky,
You can order from AlldayChemist.com

I was just talking with them, I began cursing at them.
How lame of them, not to ship to Denmark, Copenhagen.


That annoys me.
They didn't even have any reason,
When I asked them why they could ship to
All other countries except this one.

Look at the places I am forced to buy from

Melalite Forte Cream 4% Hydroquinone, 30G
Soft & Silky Texture!
ITEM # MEL4
$39.99 USA
USA Add to Cart


40 $$ :-S

Is a joke.

And it costs

1.39$ when you buy from AlldayChemist.com


Some people are just greedy

You guys are lucky,
You can order from AlldayChemist.com

I was just talking with them, I began cursing at them.
How lame of them, not to ship to Denmark, Copenhagen.


That annoys me.
They didnt even have any reason,
When i asked them why they could ship to
all other countries except this one.

Did you really curse them out.. lol. Well, you can try contacting The Super Skin Store, they also sell hq 4% and retin-a 0.1% and they are really reliable. But, they charge at $15 per tube, but their s&h is much cheaper. They told me you'll have to have or set up a paypal account, and they are based in California. You can try contacting them and see if they can send to you in Denmark, you can see if you can work something out with them.
http://www.sell.com/selling/SuperSkinStore/
[email protected]

did you really curse them out..lol. Well, you can try contacting The Super Skin Store, they also sell hq 4% and retin-a 0.1% and they are really reliable. But, they charge at $15 per tube, but their s&h is much cheaper. They told me you'll have to have or set up a paypal account, and they are based in California. You can try contacting them and see if they can send to you in Denmark, you can see if you can work something out with them.
sell.com classifieds : For Sale by SuperSkinStore located in Beverly Hills, CA (Los Angeles area) (http://www.sell.com/selling/SuperSkinStore/)
[email protected]


Thank you so much, I will talk to them

Yeah I did curse them out lol.

But I don't think its fair, for the past 4 months

I have bought the cream for 40$.

And, how difficult can it be to ship to Denmark
That's like the most easiest country, to ship too.

Lol.. yeah that's funny. But I probably would have done the same cause it's not fair.

you only need to use hq 2x a day and retin a 1x a day or everyother day, depending on your sensitivity to them. you can even use hq in the am on the days you use retin-a in the pm

So. I can just wash my face then put the suff on.

Now when I use the Retin A and the HQ at the same time, how long should I wait to but on the HQ after the Retin A?

So. I can just wash my face then put the suff on.

Now when I use the Retin A and the HQ at the same time, how long should I wait to but on the HQ after the Retin A?

Wash, let skin dry. Then use a little of the retin-a or hq. if your using both at the same time (like me) wait about 10-20 min after the retin-a (at night), and then hq. others may do it differently, this is what works for me.

wash, let skin dry. then use a little of the retin-a or hq. if your using both at the same time (like me) wait about 10-20 min after the retin-a (at night), and then hq. others may do it differently, this is what works for me.

Cool.

Here is a pic of me with my current complexion:
http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs203.snc1/7018_1251358122333_1180899632_792082_2483512_n.jpg

Depending on the lighting in the room, my skin may look a tad darker. Like in this pic:
http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs203.snc1/7018_1253238729347_1180899632_796858_4919090_n.jpg



Now how light will this stuff make me?

You already look like that,complexion,like michael jackson in the bad era,you have a nice complexion,that's what I'am trying to change like your color... or as michael in the bad era...

Yeah, your complexion is close to mj during the 80's, you are already pretty light. Using hq/ra can reach you to your goal as long as you continue to use it, or other really good lighteners & exfoliators. So if you want to lighten 2 or 3 shades, this can easily help you reach it, along with a good sunblock. I have lightened about 2 1/2 shades w/in about 3-4 weeks and I slowed down on using it because I was getting too light too fast. I see you have the mj hairstyle too.

yeah, your complexion is close to mj during the 80's, you are already pretty light. using hq/ra can reach you to your goal as long as you continue to use it, or other really good lighteners & exfoliators. so if you want to lighten 2 or 3 shades, this can easily help you reach it, along with a good sunblock. I have lightened about 2 1/2 shades w/in about 3-4 weeks and I slowed down on using it because i was getting too light too fast. i see u have the mj hairstyle too.

Yup. I LOVE the hair. Lol.

So, is there anything else that I might need to know to make his successful?

Yup. I LOVE the hair. lol.

So, is there anything else that I might need to know to make his successful?

Just stick to your regimen, keep a lookout for sensitivity or allergies (if any), use a goo sunblock w/ high spf (I have been using neutrogena spf 70 or higher now for over 1 year and it has helioplex). Limit your sun exposure, and I keep sunblock w/ me always in case I need to reapply if I'm out longer. That's all I can think of.

just stick to your regimen, keep a lookout for sensitivity or allergies (if any), use a goo sunblock w/ high spf (i have been using neutrogena spf 70 or higher now for over 1 year and it has helioplex). limit your sun exposure, and i keep sunblock w/ me always in case i need to reapply if i'm out longer. that's all i can think of.

Well I hardly go out in the daylight. The on;y time I'm out in the daylight is when I go to school, but the sun exposure only lasts like 30 sec-1 min. tops.

I'm a nighttime person. And I go out of my way to cover up and stay out of the sun.

But would I still need sunblock if I hardly ever go out in the sun?

And how bad would it effect my lightening process for being out in the sun for a few second?

Well I hardly go out in the daylight. The on;y time I'm out in the daylight is when I go to school, but the sun exposure only lasts like 30 sec-1 min. tops.

I'm a nighttime person. And I go out of my way to cover up and stay out of the sun.

But would I still need sunblock if I hardly ever go out in the sun?

And how bad would it effect my lightening process for being out in the sun for a few second?

Yes. You do need sunblock a few secounds can affect your hard work. I even wear sun block in the HOUSE.:o

That's what I hear to, to wear sunblock even in the house and at night. I think because of the artificial lighting from lamps and the sunrays coming through the windows? But I'm too slack to do all of that, I have never worn sunblock indoors or when I go out at night and I have always been able to still lighten quite well.

But, I always put sunblock on 15-20 min before I leave the house and always keep it w/ me at all times in case I need to reapply (I don't wear foundation). This makes a BIG difference on how soon and successful you'll see your results.

that's what I hear to, to wear sunblock even in the house and at night. i think because of the artificial lighting from lamps and the sunrays coming through the windows? but I'm too slack to do all of that, i have never worn sunblock indoors or when I go out at night and I have always been able to still lighten quite well.

But, I alway put sunblock on 15-20 min before i leave the house and always keep it w/ me at all times in case i need to reapply (i dont wear foundation). this makes a BIG difference on how soon and successful you'll see your results.

Ok. Thanks for all the info.

You guys seen Don the Vampire? He was on the Tyra banks show and I wonder what he uses on his skin. I'm sure it's cover up or he's always been light but he can really pass as a legit Vampire. Here's a link:

YouTube - Tyra Investigates The Vampire Culture. Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKjSnmJd2Q8)

My best guess would be mono

I'll have to agree. He seems quite dedicated to what he wants to be (a vamp) and possibly use mono or mequinol/tretinoin... or he coul be a real vampyre :o I know it's crazy, but he is somewhat cute in a scary kind of way? Sorry


Daniel Lust, are you a male or female? Your name is male but you have a female pic avatar, is that you?

No the female avatar is Olivia Munn who is an Asian-American actress/model. I just think she's really appealing and my ex girlfriend Melody looks exactly like her. Something I just can't get out of my head =( heh.

I am male. And as for the Vampire Don yes.. he is amazing and he's written books and his facial structure is great.. very dedicated and even if people don't believe in Vampires.. it's quite all right. He definitely can pass as a real Vampire and should star in a movie of his own! I think it would be great! So mono it is! I'm sure I'd have great success.. it's just going to take a lot of work. For right now I'm set on HQ 4% and retin-A and I will definitely keep you posted on how it's helped me. I'm so glad I found this website.. I didn't even know it existed but my ex was always a fan of HQ and her skin was a bit on the yellow side. She was always obsessed with having pale skin. She grew up listening to Goth/Darkwave/EBM music and vampires were her thing haha it was cute though. She was so innocent! I miss her!

Sorry if I am rambling on hehe

No your not rambling, I like to read and everyone here can tell you I like to write a lot. OK, I see now, the actress/model is pretty. About Don the vamp, yes he has very nice facial structure, what is his nationality? Well, w/ me for the past few years I have a fascination with vamps... excluding the sparkling ones from twilight. But, yeah I would think if I ever met don the vamp 80% of me would possibly believe he was a real vamp and I would be surprised if he ate real food. Yeah, although most of the time I do not dress like it, I am a bit goth/emo with the music, my art, books, movies, films, poetry, etc. I always like the role/style Aaliyah played in Queen of the damned as "Akasha". But that's not why I lighten, my goal is to reach the golden shade I had when I was a kid.

Well, make sure you do as much studying about mono used along w/ almond oil, the risks, how to limit spots, and so forth. I am still doing as much reading as I can about hydroquinone and tretinoin, among other things. As I am lightening so that I can understand my successes with it along with the challenges. I would suggest you can try contacting Lil' Greg for tips for best results in reaching this goal, up here who also uses mono, almond oil, and arbutin and he is very scientific.

Yeah I will definitely contact Lil' Greg. The spots is the only thing I am worried about. As far as going completely white.. it doesn't scare me at all because I am Caucasian and I was always pale like a ghost as a kid.. but surfing is what did it! I went too much into the sun and the doctor told me I needed to stop because skin cancer runs in my family and I wasn't about to lose myself in that situation! It's a scary thought and one has to take precautions!

Aaliyah did an amazing role in Queen Of The Damned.. and may I say she looked so fiiine! Hehehe props for her role and God bless her heart!

Don Henrie aka Don The Vampire is Japanese-American as far as I know.

Yeah, he can help with how to lighten the areas of the spots so they can blend. A suggestion, you can exfoliate first with retina (tretinoin), lactic acid, &/or salicylic acid for a few weeks to help remove any damaged and dead skin cells. After you do this as well as use a high sph sunblock, the skin underneath will naturally be lighter and the product you use will be more quickly absorbed. But, I know little about the full process of mono. Mequinol can also depig at 20% and can used along side tretinoin and can also lighten to the desired shade when used at a lower strength. Much luck

Mequinol just takes longer, right? It would probably be safer for me to use that than Mono only because I'm not too dark.

Vin Diesal complexion.. maybe even 2 shades lighter.

Mequinol just takes longer, right? It would probably be safer for me to use that than Mono only because I'm not too dark.

I'm unsure if it takes longer to depig but from this article it seems to state that it will depig much sooner with less side effects compared to mono:

Pg 364: Mequinol (4-Methoxyphenol)
Mequinol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=hcxR0RvFZUMC&oi=fnd&pg=PA359&dq=mequinol%2Bdepig&ots=KU8MS5L_F0&sig=0CZi0tB3G2AuWbg5ThpPwfFjqUg#v=onepage&q=&f=false

It can be used either as a skin lightener or as a depigmenting agent and must be used along with tretinoin (the acid form of vitamin A aka retin-a). It's the monomethyl ether of hydroquinone. There is the generic Mequinol 2%/Tretinoin 0.1% and there is the name brand Solage. I know that one of our members here Dessaml used 10% mequinol for a period of time to help w/ hyperpigmentation. I don't know if it gives white spots or not but from what I here it burns, here are some of the studies and information about mequinol/tretinoin.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WM8-4C9SB83-9&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=573bba6b83f0cf5f1060f4238c2ad3d0

4-Methoxyphenol (http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/4-methoxyphenol/recognition.html)

Also. Golden Girl. That site that was posted in the first or second page selling the Retin A and HQ for like $2.

What's up with that? Is that a scam or something? Like $2 for a product that some people sell for $6-$200?

Also. Golden Girl. That site that was posted in the first or second page selling the Retin A and HQ for like $2.

Whats up with that? Is that a scam or something? Like $2 for a product that some people sell for $6-$200?

That's what I had thought and it through me off a bit. But, the reason they are so cheap is because they are Indian generic brands used in India but contains the same active ingredients, which are cheaper than American/Western generic brands, and much cheaper than American/western brand name versions such as Eldoquin, Epiquin Micro, Lustra, Melanex, etc. for generic Hq and Retin-A for generic tretinoin. Some are resold in the U.S. with higher prices, depending who the sellers are. I did check out their manufactures of the products to see if they were legit. I realized it really doesn't cost much to manufacture, it's the middle man that chooses the price for profit.

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That's what I had thought and it through me off a bit. But, the reason they are so cheap is because they are Indian generic brands used in India but contains the same active ingredients, which are cheaper than American/Western generic brands, and much cheaper than American/western brand name versions such as Eldoquin, Epiquin Micro, Lustra, Melanex, etc. for generic Hq and Retin-A for generic tretinoin. Some are resold in the U.S. with higher prices, depending who the sellers are. I did check out their manufactures of the products to see if they were legit. I realized it really doesnt cost much to manufacture, it's the middle man that chooses the price for profit.

So their safe and effective to use?

So their safe and effective to use?

Yes. Retin-a is the acid form of vitamin A. with hq, I prefer to use no more than 5-6 months per area.

I'm trying that one on my neck, thing is it may work well for someone, but not the other. My neck is starting to lighten slowly from using it, but not as fast as it has done for other members. Some members received no results.

yes. retin-a is the acid form of vitamin A. with hq, I prefer to use no more than 5-6 months per area.

How light can this make me?

How light can this make me?

This regimen is known to lighten to the shade of your choice to golden or even fair along with undertones still present. As long as you use good sunblock with high spf.

This regimen is known to lighten to the shade of your choice to golden or even fair along with undertones still present. As long as you use good sunblock with high spf.

Ok. Thanks.

I also use a product to wash my face called Equate Cleanser or something like that.

It works well and cleans my face up well.

Will that be good enough to use with these?

Ok. Thanks.

I also use a product to wash my face called Equate Cleanser or something like that.

It works well and cleans my face up well.

Will that be good enough to use with these?

If it is a good cleanser for you and cleanse well then it should work fine, I don't know the ingredients in it. If you want, you can post the ingredients list of it and I can take a look at it.

If it is a good cleanser for you and cleanse well then it should work fine, I don't know the ingredients in it. If you want, you can post the ingredients list of it and I can take a look at it.

Here you go:


Water, Cetyl Alcohol, Propylene Glycol, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, Stearyl Alcohol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Butylparaben.

Here you go:

Water
Cetyl Alcohol- to increase foaming capacity or to stabilize foams
Propylene Glycol- used to help stabilize formulations
Sodium Lauryl Sulfate- helping water to mix w, oil & dirt so they can be rinsed away easily
Stearyl Alcohol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Butylparaben- preservatives

This is a basic cleanser and will clean the skin, but make sure you have a good skin moisturizer since this can be drying. Especially while also using hq/ra. COSMETICSINFO.ORG - Your source for safety information about cosmetics and personal care products (http://www.cosmeticsinfo.org/)

Water
Cetyl Alcohol- to increase foaming capacity or to stabilize foams
Propylene Glycol- used to help stabilize formulations
Sodium Lauryl Sulfate- helping water to mix w, oil & dirt so they can be rinsed away easily
Stearyl Alcohol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Butylparaben- preservatives

This is a basic cleanser and will clean the skin, but make sure you have a good skin moisturizer since this can be drying. especially while also using hq/ra. COSMETICSINFO.ORG - Your source for safety information about cosmetics and personal care products (http://www.cosmeticsinfo.org/)

Ok thanks. But overall this is good for me to use with the RA/HQ?

Ok thanks. But overall this is good for me to use with the RA/HQ?

Yes. Just remember to include a good skin moisturizer and sunblock spf 60 or higher.

What percentage of retin-a will you be using?

What sunbock do you use, Golden sis? All this summer I used Zirh Defend SPF 15 because it was a gift from a friend. It didn't work good though, I still have my forehead a whole shade darker from this summer, even though I use Makari all the time since October and now its all done but my forehead, and around my eyes, is still darker than the rest of my facfe.

I use neutrogena with helioplex, spf 70 or higher, even their spf 55 worked very well on me and I didn't redarken while using it. Cause it absorbs very well w/out the white residue. I would think spf 15 would do little. My forehead is ketching up, the forehead is usually the darkest though.

yes. Just remember to include a good skin moisturizer and sunblock spf 60 or higher.

What percentage of retin-a will you be using?

1%

OK, much luck and remember to keep us updated with your progress KB50MJ

ok, much luck and remember to keep us updated with your progress KB50MJ

Ok. I will.

Thanks

that's what I hear to, to wear sunblock even in the house and at night. i think because of the artificial lighting from lamps and the sunrays coming through the windows? but I'm too slack to do all of that, i have never worn sunblock indoors or when I go out at night and I have always been able to still lighten quite well.

But, I alway put sunblock on 15-20 min before i leave the house and always keep it w/ me at all times in case i need to reapply (i dont wear foundation). this makes a BIG difference on how soon and successful you'll see your results.

Going back to this comment.

Now if I use the Retin-A and the HQ twice a day and don't wear sunblock and limit my exposure, can it be just as successful as using the RA one with sunblock?

Because I really don't have enough time in the mornings to put on all that sunblock.

Going back to this comment.

Now if I use the Retin-A and the HQ twice a day and don't wear sunblock and limit my exposure, can it be just as successful as using the RA one with sunblock?

Because I really don't have enough time in the mornings to put on all that sunblock.

I can't say, but I doubt it. You'll be surprised how much a good sunblock can do. You still may get some success, but will get even more when using sunblock religiously at least 15-20 min before when you go outside, better off not waisting lightening product. Only time when I don't apply is if I'm going out at night time and I don't use in the house and have had success. I heard both should still be done though.

No reason to apply retin-a twice a day, that will be too much. Ony once every other night or once at night. Not twice. For hq, yeah you can apply 2x a day (and can even not apply the hq on night you apply retin-a). You have to check how your skin reacts, if its getting too irritated then it is best to cut back. I had to cut back to use 1x a day or 1x everyother day and still have lightening.

I can't say, but I doubt it. you'll be surprised how much a good sunblock can do. you still may get some success, but will get even more when using sunblock religiously at least 15-20 min before when you go outside, better off not waisting lightening product. Only time when I dont apply is if I'm going out at night time and I dont use in the house and have had success. I heard both should still be done though.

No reason to apply retin-a twice a day, that will be too much. ony once every other night or once at night. not twice. for hq, yeah you can apply 2x a day (and can even not apply the hq on night you apply retin-a). you have to check how your skin reacts, if its getting too irritated then it is best to cut back. I had to cut back to use 1x a day or 1x everyother day and still have lightening.

Ok. Now when I go out I only need to put the sunblock on the parts of my skin that re exposed right?

Like if I cover up a lot, I only need to put it on my hands, face, and neck.

Ok. Now when I go out I only need to put the sunblock on the parts of my skin that re exposed right?

Like if I cover up a lot, I only need to put it on my hands, face, and neck.

Yes, that is what I do. I apply on the exposed areas.

I'm not sure if I asked you this before I'm sorry.

But once I reached my desired shade, what should I do to maintain that shade?

And in addition to the post above, how should this be applied daily?

Like shoudl I use it twice a day? And how should I put it on? Like should I put the Retin A then the HQ or the HQ then the Retin A?

Try once a day for starters... see how your skin takes it.. you may not peel for the first four days and then you will feel like your face is super peely and burning a littls.. beause of the retin A.. Your face will feel a little "crispy" and tight around the corners of you mouth.. LOL.. it doesn't matter which one you put first, but I like to use the retin A first them HQ.. Makes me feel like it's penetrating better...

Now what will happen if I just use the 4% HQ?

Will it still work?

OK do you want to go really light
Ow well den imma give yuh my lightening secret
This will make you like 4 shades lighter in a wekk if you do it proply na d consistently
. Oright get yourself bio claire lotion and the oil and mix it in a tub and then you will need 1 other maxi light oil and hot movate gel mix all this together in a tub
And store in tha frigde over night
The next morning get yourself a lemon
Squezze it into a cup dip your finger in and apply the lemon liquid to your face and neck leave on until it dries
Then wash off
Now apply your lightening lotion to your body
At lease twice through the day when it gets to night time
Here's da trick
Apply it thickly on your legs and arms
And neck
And then get some glad wrap and wrap it
Over those area
Easliy
Don't apply the glad wrap to your face though
And then aplly it thick on your face
And go to sleep with your face facing upwards
And make sure you put on socks over the toes
In the morning you will wake up don't take it of until it gets to about 11:50
Go to the bath tub fill it wif really warm water
And take all that stuff of
And lay in da tub
All your dead skin wiff come of and
Your skin will be so light
Do this about one whole week
Straight
And I swear you will notice results
But please stay out of the sun because then your skin will only reproduce more melanin
After you get to your desired result
Only do this twice a week
And the rest of the week normally apply the cream to the body softly
This will maintain the color
Anywas I do this and I went so light
That its so noticeable
Like
Because I went from trey songs color to a bit lighter then chris brown... Anyway try this people I swear by it

Now what will happen if I just use the 4% HQ?

Will it still work?

Use Retin A... it will peel the skin better... and make the HQ work faster... HQ will peel the skin too... but not nearly as well... it will dry it and flake kind of gross then peel... and not a good look... the Retin A will help this along better.. besides you may get some acne from HQ alone on the face... so retin A will help with that too

Careful somali boy... those products contain steroids... and if you want to keep your youthful boyish looks avoid anything that thins the skin because you will get wrinkles early!!

Steroids are dangerous they can cause many medical conditions, also stretch marks, wrinkles etc.

Now how long does A Tube Of 30 Gm Cream and A Tube Of 20 Gm Gel last?

How long will they last if I use them twice a day?

Because I'm on a budget and I need to know how much I need to get.

It can last me almost two months, I mixed both the hq/ra in jar when I used it. Doesn't take much to cover your face, you don't need to apply it thick.

It can last me almost two months, I mixed both the hq/ra in jar when I used it. Doesn't take much to cover your face, you don't need to apply it thick.

Wow. 2 months? That's great. SO I'm guessing it comes in a pretty reasonably big tube?

Not like REALLY big, but like the sixze of any regular facial medicine tube.

Wow. 2 months? THats great.
SO I'm guessing it comes in a pretty reasonably big tube?
Not like REALLY big, but like the size of any regular facial medicine tube.

I purchased this Diana Stalder type product from eBay for about $8 or $10. When I received the jar I couldn't believe it. Where's the rest of it? Lol
It was a 10g jar, that's not even 1oz! And it lasted me a month and a half. The cream inside was very spreadable that's probably why it lasted me that long and I used it twice a day, again it doesn't take much to cover your face.

Your right, the tubes are not really big but the size of a regular tube of cream. I think 30g is 1oz and one ounce jar has always lasted me about two months. The tube of hydroquinone is 30g and the tube of retin A is 20g so it should definitely last you a while.

I purchased this Diana Stalder type product from ebay for about $8 or $10. When I received the jar I couldn't believe it. Where's the rest of it? lol
It was a 10g jar, that's not even 1oz !! And it lasted me a month and a half. The cream inside was very spreadable that's probably why it lasted me that long and I used it twice a day, again it doesn't take much to cover your face.

Your right, the tubes are not really big but the size of a regular tube of cream. I think 30g is 1oz and one ounce jar has always lasted me about two months. The tube of hydroquinone is 30g and the tube of retin A is 20g so it should definitely last you a while.

Cool.

Do you mind answering this for me? I wanted some people's opinion: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-lightening/how-do-explain-people-why-skin-looks-uneven-some-parts-430834.html

I thought you weren't supposed to mix hq/ra in containers, I thought it lessens the efficacy

I thought you weren't supposed to mix hq/ra in containers, I thought it lessens the efficacy

Hmm never heard of that before.
There are products out there that contain both ingredients.
Worked great for me and it didn't lose any potency when I used it.
My skin looked great! :D

Wow I have been applying each separately mixing would save me a lot of time

Wow I have been applying each separately mixing would save me alot of time

That's what I did, for some odd reason when I used it separately it seemed like I was using more product than I should, the hydroquinone was running out faster than the Retin A, maybe I did that because the tube is bigger. Lol