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ohsohappy
Oct 28, 2009, 03:17 PM
Hi, My old Betta fish recently died. I have an empty tank and I want to get a new one. The tank is a gallon.

When I get my Betta, I want to get it a tankmate. I was thinking about getting a snail, but I also want to get it another fish friend.

First, I know that Bettas are territorial, so the gallon may not be big enough for 2 fish. It's fine for just the betta, with the snail though. I read that the snails help clean up the waste that the betta leaves, So I think that would be really good for keeping the tank clean. I also had a live plant, I want to get another one because it helps filter the water natrually and keep it cleaner longer. I think the plant, slong with the snail, would help a lot.

So now I just need to know what other fish, if any will fit in with a Betta in a gallon tank and not cause any problems. I want something interesting, and possibly colorful, something that won't cause conflict with my betta and will compliment it's colors.

Any suggestions?

J_9
Oct 28, 2009, 03:22 PM
We had a betta fish that lived a long and happy life with a little frog friend.

ohsohappy
Oct 28, 2009, 03:25 PM
We had a betta fish that lived a long and happy life with a little frog friend.

OH! I like frogs! :)

That would be cool! Did you keep it in a gallon tank as well?

J_9
Oct 28, 2009, 03:27 PM
OH! I like frogs! :)

That would be cool! Did you keep it in a gallon tank as well?

Yup, it was a gallon octagon tank we kept in our bathroom. Hubby is on the way to get a new beta fish now for our 7 year old.

ohsohappy
Oct 28, 2009, 03:50 PM
Ohh that's cool.
I was also thinking of a glofish. I called the pet store and they said that if you pair them with Bettas, you need a 10 gallon tank for maximum cooperation and that it's best to get a couple of live plants and some hiding spaces for them.

shazamataz
Oct 29, 2009, 01:32 AM
I don't know whether ours was just a weird fish but we had a Siamese Fighter in a 4 foot tank with a bunch of other fish...
Discus, clown loaches, silver sharks, gouramis he was fine, he used to just hang out in the plants at the back of the tank and didn't bother anyone..

Only thing I think you really have to avoid is fish with large colorful fine.

ohsohappy
Oct 29, 2009, 09:23 AM
I don't know whether or not ours was just a weird fish but we had a Siamese Fighter in a 4 foot tank with a bunch of other fish...
Discus, clown loaches, silver sharks, gouramis he was fine, he used to just hang out in the plants at the back of the tank and didn't bother anyone..

Only thing I think you really have to avoid is fish with large colorful fine.

How many gallons was your 4 foot tank?

Alty
Oct 29, 2009, 09:38 AM
Ohso, don't get a snail, they don't need a mate to reproduce. You buy one and end up with a tan full of them.

My dad got a snail and after that we were giving them away by the handful and they still overran the tank.

We had a siamese fighting fish that lived very happily in a 5 gallon tank with our goldfish. Of course you could always get a female beta. :)

ohsohappy
Oct 29, 2009, 09:44 AM
Ohso, don't get a snail, they don't need a mate to reproduce. You buy one and end up with a tan full of them.

My dad got a snail and after that we were giving them away by the handful and they still overran the tank.

We had a siamese fighting fish that lived very happily in a 5 gallon tank with our goldfish. Of course you could always get a female beta. :)

Really? I thought they did, but maybe that's slugs, YUCK.

Does anyone think it's a bad idea to put a beta in a tank with glo fish? I heard if you get glo fish then you need a 10 gallon because they are community fish, so you should get them in 3 or more, and they need more room to swim around. But I think a 10 gallon is a bit excessive. Would a 6 gallon be okay?

Alty
Oct 29, 2009, 09:51 AM
The usual rule for fish is 1 gallon per inch. So, if you have a fish that's 5 inches long then you need a 5 gallon tank and can't add anymore fish.

Betas fall into the 2 inch category but are not very active fish. Still, I find it cruel that many people think it's okay to keep them in tiny little bowls, even cups.

My dad had a 30 gallon tank with many different fish, usually Neons (also betas) and angel fish, etc. etc. He always had a siamese fighting fish in the tank and there were never any problems.

Just keep to the 1 inch per gallon rule and you should be fine, but take into account the growth of the fish you buy. Ask the store how big they'll get before purchasing. :)

ohsohappy
Oct 29, 2009, 09:59 AM
The usual rule for fish is 1 gallon per inch. So, if you have a fish that's 5 inches long then you need a 5 gallon tank and can't add anymore fish.

Betas fall into the 2 inch category but are not very active fish. Still, I find it cruel that many people think it's okay to keep them in tiny little bowls, even cups.

My dad had a 30 gallon tank with many different fish, usually Neons (also betas) and angel fish, etc. etc. He always had a siamese fighting fish in the tank and there were never any problems.

Just keep to the 1 inch per gallon rule and you should be fine, but take into account the growth of the fish you buy. Ask the store how big they'll get before purchasing. :)


That sounds like a good plan. My Betta did pretty well in his 1 gallon, but like you said, they're not overly active.
They are jumper though, So I had to keep an inch and a half of empty space between the lid of the tank and the water, also so he could breathe. They're really cool little guys.

shazamataz
Oct 29, 2009, 04:48 PM
How many gallons was your 4 foot tank?

I wouldn't have a clue sorry!

We don't do gallons here and I couldn't tell you how many litres either lol

I agree with Alty on the snails!! Bad joo-joo with them.

You had neons and angels together Alty?

My angels eat all my neons, I learnt the hard way lol

Alty
Oct 29, 2009, 05:23 PM
I wouldn't have a clue sorry!

We don't do gallons here and I couldn't tell you how many litres either lol

I agree with Alty on the snails!!!!! Bad joo-joo with them.

You had neons and angels together Alty?

My angels eat all my neons, I learnt the hard way lol

Our angels ate the smaller neons, then we wised up and got more mature neons, a bit bigger then angel fish mouth size. ;)

It was my dads tank, that man really knew fish. Me, well, I have a gold fish that has lived longer then anyone ever though he would despite 4 tank relocations, a case of ick and many other things. He's still alive. I also have a feeder fish which we've had for around 6 months. He also went through the ick and lived.

J9 mentioned frogs. We've had them, they're so cute, but I've never had luck with them, neither did my dad. The longest a frog has lasted for us is 1 week. :(

shazamataz
Oct 29, 2009, 05:28 PM
Sorry to get sidetracked but that just reminded me of Vaughns evil cousins...
When we moved house we left the fish at his mothers until we settled in, his cousins came to stay with her and poured an entire container of food into the tank (!! )
They were very sick so his mom took them out and put them in a jug of water.
She thought she was doing the right thing putting the water ager in.. She actually put the blue water tester in there!

One of them survived, the other goldfish and the catfish had a toilet funeral :(

My parents expensive fish Jack (the rabbit) killed by biting through the heater cable... needless to say he was banished outside after that.

Alty
Oct 29, 2009, 05:30 PM
Wow Shaz, your fish live a world of excitement. :)

Goldie was tiny when we got him, so small that we had to turn off the filter, he kept getting sucked to the little post thingy.

Now he's over 5 inches long. :eek:

shazamataz
Oct 29, 2009, 05:58 PM
You need to build a koi pond for him...
Good excuse to put hubby to work :p

ohsohappy
Oct 29, 2009, 06:15 PM
Fish are really cool creatures.

As for the frogs, I'm really upset with wal-mart. Every time I go there, I see a bunch of dead ones. THey don't take care of their fish at all. It makes me sad. People tell me not to buy my fish from there because they don't treat their fish well, but that's exactly why I would want to, to save a fishie that otherwise wouldn't be well taken care of. I feel bad for them

rex123
Oct 30, 2009, 10:40 AM
Fish are really cool creatures.

As for the frogs, I'm really upset with wal-mart. Every time i go there, I see a bunch of dead ones. THey don't take care of their fish at all. it makes me sad. People tell me not to buy my fish from there because they don't treat their fish well, but that's exactly why i would want to, to save a fishie that otherwise wouldn't be well taken care of. I feel bad for them

I just got a new tank and a whole wack of new fish about a week ago. They are all so cute. They are:
-An orange platty(flame)
-Male guppy( Atlas)
-Female Guppy(Honey)
-Black Mystery Snail(Speedy Gonzalez)
-2 African Dwarf Frogs(Chase&Echo)
-One small Pleco(Jaws)

I got them all from Walmart as there are no pet stores near my house. The frogs were scarce there most were dead and even the ones I acquired were moving very little. Thankfully when I got them home to my tank they started moving around a lot more. I love my frogs so much but I'd have to say that my pleco jaws is my fave.

Frogs are cute but they move around A LOT. They need lots of space. So I don't think they would be a good choice. You know us humans tend to think that fish and other pets get lonely but they don't. Well not bettas anyway they are pretty solitary fish, they like their space. The only thing I could suggest is maybe to get one of those betta tanks that are separated into two sections therefore you could have two.

ohsohappy
Oct 30, 2009, 11:42 AM
I just got a new tank and a whole wack of new fish about a week ago. They are all so cute. They are:
-An orange platty(flame)
-Male guppy( Atlas)
-Female Guppy(Honey)
-Black Mystery Snail(Speedy Gonzalez)
-2 African Dwarf Frogs(Chase&Echo)
-One small Pleco(Jaws)

I got them all from Walmart as there are no pet stores near my house. The frogs were scarce there most were dead and even the ones I acquired were moving very little. Thankfully when I got them home to my tank they started moving around a lot more. I love my frogs so much but I'd have to say that my pleco jaws is my fave.

Frogs are cute but they move around A LOT. They need lots of space. So I don't think they would be a good choice. You know us humans tend to think that fish and other pets get lonely but they don't. Well not bettas anyway they are pretty solitary fish, they like their space. The only thing I could suggest is maybe to get one of those betta tanks that are separated into two sections therefore you could have two.

I like that Idea, but I think most of those tanks are too small for them. Otherwise I'd get a huge double tank, I'd say 5 gallons each side, and then put the Betta in one side and the neon glo fish in the other. Fish are the best! Maybe if they have those tanks then I can save up for one, they're pretty expensive though. :(

ohsohappy
Oct 31, 2009, 09:59 PM
Well I got my new Betta today. He's a beautiful blue and red Delta tail. Very pretty. I've named him Pandora. (Fish Fishy Fish Fish Fischer is what my boyfriend thinks I should name it.) I decided I would let that be it's nickname. Pandora is his real name. :)

Alty
Oct 31, 2009, 10:02 PM
I won't judge the name, my goldfish is Goldie, my feeder fish is Fang. :rolleyes: :o

Congrats on the new fish friend. :)

shazamataz
Nov 1, 2009, 12:46 AM
Awesome, you will have to post pictures :D

ohsohappy
Nov 1, 2009, 08:29 AM
When I can find a camera that won't make him look all fuzzy I will! I'm excited! I need to get him a plant though, the tank looks kind of empty , And he likes to hide in corners sometimes.He needs some cover. :)

ohsohappy
Nov 1, 2009, 05:51 PM
He doesn't seem to want to eat yet. I'm going to keep trying about 3 pellets before bed or when I wake up. I'll make sure to take out what he doesn't eat. I just want to make sure that he has the chance to start eating.

shazamataz
Nov 1, 2009, 07:17 PM
Give him some time to settle in, he will eat when he's ready.

How long did you have the tank set up for before you bought him?

Definitely get some plants for him, I know mine used to like resting on top of the leaves ;)

Alty
Nov 1, 2009, 08:10 PM
How big are the pellets that you're feeding him?

When we first got our siamese fighting fish we had to cut the pellets in half, they were to big for him to get in his mouth.

ohsohappy
Nov 1, 2009, 09:53 PM
My boyfriend's mom has fish, and she got the water all prepared for me. The water was ready for about 4 hours. We put it in a clean ice cream bucket for me to take home and use for him. I also made sure that was water was about the same temperature as his little container when I put him in there. It might have been a degree or two off, but it felt pretty much the same.

As for the pellets, my other betta could eat them, and they have the same size mouth. I've seen him take them in and them spit them out. My other betta would do that too sometimes. You're probably right that he needs some time to settle in.

This might sound kind of weird, but my new fish feels like a stranger. I don't know him yet like I knew my other fishy Zavier. I'm still kind of getting used to him. I really like him though. I'm just scared that he's going to die all of the sudden. :(

I'm super paranoid now, I want to make sure that my fish is as happy as possible.

shazamataz
Nov 1, 2009, 10:09 PM
Aww, he will grow on you eventually :)
When I got my dog Brody he didn't feel like he was 'my dog' for a few months because he was 1 year old when I got him.

Sounds like you have done everything perfect, whenever we bought fish from the pet store they would hide for a few days behind the plants, once they were settled they came out and were fine.
Except for the clown loaches, We had to do spot checks once a week to make sure they weren't dead because they just hid all the time :rolleyes:

XOXOlove
Nov 1, 2009, 10:18 PM
If you get a mate for your fishy make sure it is a female. The males fight each other if you didn't know. I had a beta fish before too. His name was hungry mungry. Lol :D sometimes I would put his bowl next to my sister's beta fish and both of their gills would puff out!

ohsohappy
Nov 1, 2009, 10:30 PM
Aww, he will grow on you eventually :)
When I got my dog Brody he didn't feel like he was 'my dog' for a few months because he was 1 year old when I got him.

Sounds like you have done everything perfect, whenever we bought fish from the pet store they would hide for a few days behind the plants, once they were settled they came out and were fine.
Except for the clown loaches, We had to do spot checks once a week to make sure they weren't dead because they just hid all the time :rolleyes:

I think I'll feel better when he has a plant or something. I can tell he's a bit uneasy still, it's like a 6th sense. His tank is just so open on the inside. He's up on my dresser, and there's stuff around his tank, and the sunligh can't affect him too much. I keep the light on above his tank for about an hour or so just so it stays at a decent temperature. So he's not in dorect sunlight, but he gets a decent amount of warmth.

I also don't think that he knows what to do when Luka (my kitty) decided to jump on the dresser and stick her big furry face to the glass. I' sure it's terrifying.
I'm sure he'll feel more secure when he has a plant to lurk in. :)

I bet when he feels more secure, then I will too.

shazamataz
Nov 2, 2009, 01:57 AM
Couldn't resist :D

http://www.animaltalk.us/images/uploads/fish-bowl.jpg

rex123
Nov 2, 2009, 03:45 AM
My boyfriend's mom has fish, and she got the water all prepared for me. The water was ready for about 4 hours. We put it in a clean ice cream bucket for me to take home and use for him. I also made sure that was water was about the same temperature as his little container when I put him in there. it might have been a degree or two off, but it felt pretty much the same.

As for the pellets, my other betta could eat them, and they have the same size mouth. I've seen him take them in and them spit them out. My other betta would do that too sometimes. You're probably right that he needs some time to settle in.

This might sound kind of weird, but my new fish feels like a stranger. I don't know him yet like I knew my other fishy Zavier. I'm still kind of getting used to him. I really like him though. I'm just scared that he's going to die all of the sudden. :(

I'm super paranoid now, I want to make sure that my fish is as happy as possible.


I know what you mean... Like I said I just got my tank last week. And unfortunately yesterday I found, that my fave fish Jaws(a 1 1/2 inch pleco) died. It was horrible. So yesterday Me and my dad went to Walmart and got a new pleco Jaws 2. He also bought me a big black fish that had glowing dots. We put them both uin the tank and they seemed fine. Then we went to my uncle's b-day party, and when we got back home another of my fish was dead at the bottom, My male guppy named atlas. We took it out and examined it and it had been eaten, now if it died and then was eaten I don't know. But I sat and watched for a while thinking that maybe the new black fish had something to do with it. Sure enough with in 2 minutes he went after my snail. That was it. I took him out and put him in with my goldfish(they can protect themselves for sure).

I'm really pissed at walmart right now. ON the tank it said that the fish was a community fish. HA. When I searched it up last night it said they were aggressive, the name of the fish is Jack Dempsey Cichild.

Now I'm really scared that my other fish'll die. I go in there every half hour and do a head count(no word of a lie). I look for my 2 frogs, my female guppy, my platty, and my pleco.

shazamataz
Nov 2, 2009, 05:00 AM
Cichlids are just bad unless you have them with other cichlids, same with barbs, surely walmart should have known that :(

ohsohappy
Nov 2, 2009, 09:48 AM
Wal mart doesn't know much about actusl pet care. They make their money off the supplies, not the fish, So they don't take good care of them. I wouldn't listen to what the walmart people say at all, I'd research it online or go directly to a petstore. But since you said there's not one nearby, internet is the next best. You can also call a petstore if you can't travel there and they will answer any of your questions.

ohsohappy
Nov 2, 2009, 09:49 AM
couldn't resist :d

http://www.animaltalk.us/images/uploads/fish-bowl.jpg

LOL!! That's too funny!