I would like to sue the american cancer society for embarrassing me in front of the world. Last September 2008, I donated money to the ACS in behalf of a woman I knew that had a lumpectomy. She took me to court and tried to jail me for stalking her on the net. She claimed that I donated the money within 3 hours of when she placed her name on the site asking for donations in her behalf. I knew her. And did as she requested. The judge cautioned her for her Jerry Springer like antics in the court and then found her claim un proven. 1 month later the ACS changed my name on the site from my birth name to anonymous. I asked why and then they booted me out of the system and warned me not to come to the walking event late in the month October 2008. They said they would escort me out of the grounds if I even came just to watch. They refused to tell me who changed my name and why it was changed. I did not make any threats or even raise my voice I only wanted to know who and why. I was supposed to walk in the event. But they barred me. I wanted to walk in honor of my mother who died in 2006 from breast cancer. I feel that there must be a way to sue to force them to explain in a civil way why they embarrassed me when I did nothing wrong or illegal. Can anyone tell me why I should not be angry at this giant group?

How did they embarrass you? They changed your name on a website, that's all.

I have a feeling there's more to this story.

I agree there must be more. That's what I want to find out. It appears to me that the ACS has elevated themselves to some type of appellate court to over ride the judge in the court of law's decision. The lady I believe went to them the ACS and told them how nasty that mean old judge was in that he didn't believe her holy nuggets of truth. I suspect that she suffers from mental problems. That's my humble opinion, I'm not a doctor. What I posted was the truth. There was no mention on the site that there was a waiting period for donors. She asked for donations publicly I donated legally and she attempted to jail me. My lawyer had a field day I won going away. You are innocent until proven guilty. Now some may say name changing is not embarrassing. That is one point of view. Understand this though my mother gave me two things on my day of birth my heart beat and my name she has passed on I was involved with the walkathon in her honor. Who are they to trample her gifts to me? And why if it was normal to do that do they refuse to answer? Why would any fair person not agree that they don't have the right to do that without courteously answering why? I think slander may be involved if they were told that I committed a crime when I did not, causing them to react in such a mean spirited way without asking me for my side. What happened to due process?

Sorry, but you have no case. They did not embarrass you in any way. It may be true that this woman complained to them and they acted precipitously. It may be true that this woman slandered you. But since they have not made any of their moves public or publicly stated you were banned from participating in the event or repeated anything this woman may have told them, you have no legal recourse.

Often times site names get changed to protect the privacy of the person or to follow site rules and regulations. It's been done on this site as well.

The fact is, the people that own the site have the right to change your username without your consent.

As the people hosting the walkathon they also have the right to ban you from it. A reason would be nice, polite, but they really don't have to give you one, it's their event.

If you can prove that the woman slandered you then sue her, but it doesn't sound like you have proof.

I really don't see how you have a lawsuit against anyone.

They, as all stores and private businesses have the right to refuse "service" to anyone they want as long as it was not done because of a protected class.

I would assume ( and it is only a guess) that the law suit which involved their name ( although they were not involved) was enough to keep clear of any future issues.

Actually everyone of the answers are correct. I don't have any way of legally getting even. Too bad too sad.

Just donate your money to someone like the MS society or American heart, best way to show you are unhappy is in the wallet

Actually everyone of the answers are correct. I don't have any way of legally getting even. too bad too sad.

Getting even isn't all it's cut out to be.

Sometimes you just have to let things go, you'll be a lot happier, trust me.

Yo chuck I am a supporter of MS patients such as Teri Garr how sad that is Ive always loved her

Altenweg you are right think about my spot. I do something nice for a person and they thank me by trying to jail me that fails so they skin the cat another way am I supposed to say oh that's okay. Not really mad at the woman people do what people do but The ACS come on who are they fooling? I did nothing to them I gave them money. $1200 they had to refund it because the attorney general made them here in Florida.

altenweg u r right think about my spot. I do something nice for a person and they thatnk me by trying to jail that fails so they skin the cat another way am I supposed to say oh thats okay. not really mad at the woman people do what people do but The ACS come on who are they fooling? I did nothing to them I gave them money. $1200 they had to refund it cause the attorney general made them here in Florida

I understand that you feel angry, I really do. Like the old saying goes, no good deed goes unpunished.

The thing is, you don't have a case, but you still have the anger. So, will you let the anger rule you, make you bitter, or will you let it go and continue to help people?

I lost both my parents to cancer, it's a worthy cause, don't let this incident deter you from donating to other worthy causes.

Sometimes it really is best just to chalk it all up to a lesson learned and move on.

And altenweg consider this aspect. Why did the ACS need to change my name? Why not just boot me? I wondered why and concluded that they chose to inflame me first so that if there was a complaint they could justify their action. You see they created the complaint by changing the name. They anticipated my reaction likely they have done this before with like results. This is what makes it mean spirited as I have stated. This is the ACS cancer fighters of the world. You are correct in noticing my enraged madness. 1 year after the fact I am still boiling. The fact is this: she stalked me. And I ignored her behavior. You may wonder how I arrive at that notion. Well here is the rest of the story. There is a store I stop at on the way home from time to time for items I need. I have been in that store many times over the past 10 years. On one occasion 3 years ago I bumped into this woman and we spoke nicely to each other she told me that her husband was going out of town in a few days for a few days and she would then come visit me at my vending site. I said oh great bring your husband she said no I wouldn't do that. I said okay see you. That's all there was I walk away thinkg hmmm when the cats away the mice will play? Time passed 3 months later I went in to pick up something and as I went into the store from behind and in my blind spot she slammed her cart into mine and pushed until I turned around there she was but I did not recognize her. Her hair was different and she had no makeup on her face just didn't look like I had seen it. I simply said excuse me maam I'm sorry as if I had caused it. I walked away and I suddenly realized it was her I then attempted to go to her and apologize for slighting her. She left abruptly and that was that. It was 2 years later when she took me to court over the alleged internet stalking that I considered that she had seen me enter the store 3 years ago and actually followed me until she was able to slam my cart. To me that is closer to stalking than my donating money to the ACS, the judge agreed with my position as I have stated. But she gets away I think not sure with convincing the ACS that I am the stalker. The truth is she stalked me. I see her over and over again and again on the roads here and she sometimes comes into the fast food stands I stop into from time to time I see her behind my vehicle sometimes maybe it is just a coincidence I don't know. She claimed in court and wrote in her petitiion that she has never seen me but she feels I am always watching her. This sounds like a paranoid skeezo. The woman seems to be hung up on herself. All I did is shop where I shop and donate money to the ACS and try to honor my fallen mother and for that I'm labeled a stalker by a stalker skeezo? Do you say don't be angry? Or embarrassed? They should come to the table and discuss the issue not just insult my intelligence and humiliate me in front of the world and my friends and relatives. They are the American Cancer Society not joes diner. Do they have no class?

Altenweg the old saying is more like no deed goes unnoticed but I know that u were siding with my plight. Keep in mind I have done nothing illegal or wrong they are the wrong doers and they are a huge outfit picking on me. A generous donator not a stalker the woman is the stalker she stalked me.

Hello Jerry:

Couple things... I'm interested, but I can't read text speak OR run on paragraphs...

But, what I DID read gave me pause... You innocently talk about how the judge slammed this crazy lady... But, I wonder what you did that would cause you to be in front of a judge in the first place... Before that would happen, there would have been a LOT of people looking at your behavior, and determining it to BE criminal. That would be cops, supervisors and prosecutors...

So, you DID something... Tell us what it was. THAT'S the side we want to hear.

excon

excon I have talked on here about the circumstances. Let me start again I knew this woman because she was my physical therapist when I wrecked my motorcycle that's how I met her back in 2005. In April of 06 I bumped into her while shopping in a store that we both patronize. I for 10 years her probably 20 years. She for a second time said she was going to visit me at my hot dog stand thaat her husband was going out of town and shed slip down and see me there buy a soda. I said fine bring your husband she said oh no not him. Okay see you later gator. We parted 3 months later I bumped into her again same store but this time she came from behind slammed my cart and stood there looking at me like she was waiting for me to speak I just said I'm sorry maam excuse me then turned and walked away. Then when I realized it was her I attempted to apologize for what I thought was her notion that I had slighted her. She scooted out of the store and I missed my chance to square things. Then 2 years later I went on line and saw her request for donations I recognized her and I dug deep in pockets for mky fair shair to help her and the ACS. That's all I did. 3 weeks later she had me in court trying to get a restraining order for domestic violence she said I donated money to the ACS within 3 hours of her post on site and wince she saw me in a store 2 years ago at the time that I didn't live near I live 10 miles from the store but it is on the way not out of the way to where I go to work. I think she lives like 2 miles away so I guess that givees her the right to shop there but I have no right to go there. Any way the judge was angered by her attitude in court and since there was no indication that I hadd committed a crime or was following her he found un proven in my favor. There are no cops no witnesses nothing but ridiculous claims by her that I am a stalker. Like I have mentioned I donated money to the ACS not her. And I can shop anywhere they except american currency I have no warrants and no criminal back ground I had signed up to walk in the walkathon which is why I went to the website in the first place my problem is that the ACS a well respected charity could stoop so low as to penalize me with no proof whatsoever nothing just her BS as if they are some kind of appellate jurists over riding a judge who is duly appointed by the state of Florida. I amd humiliated by this mean spirited behavior by them an outfit that I trusted. If what they did is proper then why not explain why and who did this to me??

The ACS is a very large organization. They have lawyers on staff to protect themselves. Do you really think they are going to diss one individual maliciously? If so, I think you need to worry about paranoia.

And again, I don't see how you were humiliated "in front of the world". I don't see how anyone knows what happened unless you tell them. So the only one responsible for any humiliation is yourself.

Hello Jerry:

Couple things... I'm interested, but I can't read text speak OR run on paragraphs...Hello again, Jerry:

See above.

excon

excon the bottom line here is this I shop where I choose to shop in the 10 years I have only seen her there 2 times. I went on line and donated money to the ACS that is all I have done. She tried to put all of it together and make the judge believe I was stalking her. Come on you see a person you dislike at the store once twice or three times then say that person is a stalker?? The judge had no choice no proof no order. And the ACS I think refuses to except the verdict of the judge. My attorney charged me 750 bucks to represent me that's what this mess costed me. I DID NOTHING PERIOD.

Hello again, Jerry:

Thanks for making it brief. I got it...

But, you didn't answer my questions. Why didn't the cop who investigated the "stalking" believe you? You say you did NOTHING, but the COP thought you did something. The prosecutor thought you DID something too.

That's not to say you DID, but if it came down like you said it did, the cops would NOT have charged you with a crime... But, even if the cops can't identify a crime when they see it, the prosecutor CAN, and he took you to trial.

I want to know WHY.

excon

So scotty u think that big corporations with lawyers guarantees honesty and propriety? You must not watch the news or read much. Lets see the government has all kinds of lawyers and legal experts probably smarter than you, and still they constantly get found out for criminal activity. Pop goes your balloon. The last time we talked I thought you were smart

But, you didn't answer my questions. Why didn't the cop who investigated the "stalking" believe you? You say you did NOTHING, but the COP thought you did something. The prosecutor thought you DID something too.

That's not to say you DID, but if it came down like you said it did, the cops would NOT have charged you with a crime... But, even if the cops can't identify a crime when they see it, the prosecutor CAN, and he took you to trial.

I wanna know WHY.

excon

In most places stalking is a criminal offense and prosecuted by the DA. From what Jerry is saying, I'm wondering if there was a criminal investigation here. I'm suspecting this woman filed a civil suit not a criminal action. What the basis of that suit was may be unclear and depend on local laws.


excon the bottom line here is this I shop where I choose to shop in the 10 years I have only seen her there 2 times. I went on line and donated money to the ACS that is all I have done. She tried to put all of it together and make the judge believe I was stalking her. come on you see a person you dislike at the store once twice or three times then say that person is a stalker???? The judge had no choice no proof no order. and the ACS I think refuses to except the verdict of the judge. My attorney charged me 750 bucks to represent me thats what this mess costed me. I DID NOTHING PERIOD.

The problem here is you don't know WHY the ACS took what action they did. It may have nothing to do with this woman. You only have your suspicions. You were not really harmed by this (I think you said your donation was returned). So you really need to move on.

excon I am very sorry that I have mislead you. There was no trial. The judge had a hearing to decide the merit of the lady's petition to place a restraining order to eventually send me to jail if I breached the orderd. She failed to get what she wanted. That was an attempt to put me in jail for stalking. I did not stalk her she stalked me. She tried to prevent me from going to my doctors office. And she claimed that she went to the walkathon site often but it turns out that she only goes there one day a year. She never mentioned the store I shop at. She tried to prevent me frodm walking legally but failed then turned around did it the other way she used the ACS.

Hello again, Jerry:

I LOVE your short paragraphs. Keep it up.

Certainly, lawyers on staff doesn't prevent corruption, greed or self dealing... But, that argument is a red herring. What Scott wants to know. What we ALL want to know, is exactly what crime did they commit?? What tortuous action did they DO to you. How did they harm you? Who, amongst your peers, think less of you because of what they did?? What jobs were denied you because of what they did?

excon

excon well I also left out the fact that they only changed the name on her page no where else I donated to several ladies. I am very compassionate when it comes to breast cancer since my mother died from it.

VERY interesting. The OP wants to sue the ACS and also wants to punish the credit card companies for expecting him to pay back what he purchased:
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-law/steps-judgment-process-400038.html

Time to close. OP is becoming insulting and running around in circles.

so scotty u think that big corporations with lawyers guarantees honesty and propriety? You must not watch the news or read much. lets see the government has all kinds of lawyers and legal experts probably smarter than you, and still they constantly get found out for criminal activity. pop goes your balloon. the last time we talked I thought you were smart

No I don't, nor is that what I said. Your analogy doesn't hold much water. There is a difference between people trying to get away with criminal activity or malfeasance and an organization protecting itself.

But I can't see an organization with the size and reputation of the ACS coming down hard on someone for the circumstances you relate. I'm not saying its impossible or that it didn't happen, but it doesn't make a lot of sense.

The bottom line here is that you don't know why they did what they did. And you will not know, especially with your angry attitude. I see three options for you; 1) forget it and move on with your life, 2) have your attorney send a query to ask for an explanation of their actions against you or 3) go to the media to try and find out what happened. Maybe the threat of negative publicity will get them to explain.

I vote for #1 since the only thing that has really been injured is your pride.

P.S. We do not allow personal attacks here. Please be careful about insulting people.

Why are you donating money when you owe so much to your credit card debt?

Why are you donating money when you owe so much to your credit card debt?

You caught it too, eh? :)

Maybe he wants to "punish" the ACS, too.

Some of you folks may think I meant there was a trial to clear that up it was a hearing where the judge decided whether or not the lady need a protection order he said no and nearly arrested her for her bad behavior.

Jerry, let me interject here if I may. I am a breast cancer survivor... I was a member of ACS during my cancer treatment. The ACS is VERY protective of their clients, almost to a fault (pun intended). It is quite possible that she made a complaint against you to her ACS counselor and this is why your name was changed from her page only.

I also would like to say that I am very sorry about your loss, I know how hard it is having lost many friends to the disease myself.

You caught it too, eh? :)

Maybe he wants to "punish" the ACS, too.Plus in that thread he mentions his weapon and the amount of rounds he has. Disturbing indeed.

To this8384 don't worry about the credit card I took care of it they buckled. Oh and need karma duh I got that money back and it was part of what I used to pay the credit cards. I took care of the cards for 25% on the dollar. Out of debt.

VERY interesting. The OP wants to sue the ACS and also wants to punish the credit card companies for expecting him to pay back what he purchased:
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-law/steps-judgment-process-400038.html

Time to close. OP is becoming insulting and running around in circles.

Good catch! Yes, there is something disturbing about this.

Thread closed.

I can tell that you have a lot of class please survive