OK so I know your all having a go at weezing about the bio claire but they have a new product called bio claire maxi tone milk
And it has different ingredients listed and it seems to be working diffeferntly
The original made my skin raw and white but like it was really dry and thin and not nice

But this one has given me like amazing results so far and I've been using it two weeks!

I have been exfloitating with fair and white exclusive whitener exfloitating soap with vitamin c, then apply clean and clear acne clear blemish remover and leave that on for a minute.
I do morning and night then apply the bio claire maxi-tone (which I mixed with a bit of the oil for strength)

And my face is acne free and getting so so light and NO side-affects! :D
I also use sunscreens

What if its just the cream and the oil that's bad and not the lotion and maxi tone? Well I'm glad your seeing good results!

Thanks! And yeah have you got any breakouts at all with your regime?

ok so i know your all having a go at weezing about the bio claire but they have a new product called bio claire maxi tone milk
and it has different ingredients listed and it seems to be working diffeferntly
the original made my skin raw and white but like it was really dry and thin and not nice

but this one has given me like amazing results so far and i've been using it two weeks!

I have been exfloitating with fair and white exclusive whitener exfloitating soap with vitamin c, then apply clean and clear acne clear blemish remover and leave that on for a minute.
I do morning and night then apply the bio claire maxi-tone (which i mixed with a bit of the oil for strength)

and my face is acne free and getting so so light and NO side-affects! :D
i also use sunscreens


Fairr do you use the maxi tone on your alone or your body too? Are you seeing any results on your body and what was your original tone and what is it now?

I just use it on my face neck and my lower arms because they are the tanned parts and the only parts that won't get stretch marks I think and will be on show this winter lol
Err ill try and find some pics and post them

http://i34.tinypic.com/30a9sax.jpg to this
http://i33.tinypic.com/2djrncx.jpg
Roughly
I'm a bloke by the way but I'm too lazy to find pics and I already had these on my comp as I'm basically in love with her lol

OK great just wanted to know if works on the body since the body is usually the most resistant. I will be looking into this maxi tone...

Yeah she's for sure pretty Fairr.

She probably has a spray on bronzer...

The first pic of Aish, the second is too and kind of reminds of an indian verisan angelina jolie a bit, don't know why?

Anything made from Nouvelle Parfumerie, including bio claire brand are deceptive. They won't mention what they are eally using in their products.

Fairr, is the fair&white exclusive whitener exfloitating soap with vitamin c really good? Have you tried any of the other f&w exclusive brands effective as well?

I think the soap os really good actually but you need to be careful to scrub REALLY lightly on your face when using it
But I honestly think its working really well
I haven't used any of their products but I was planning on using them if this bio claire doesn't work
I heard you mention one that everyone's claiming is effective...
Which one is this?
Thanks

Oh, it was the f&w exclusive whitenizer gel. Comes in a small tube I think for around 15 bucks. I had been thinking off and on to give it a try since I have read mostly good things about how light it can make the face, it contains hq. So, it had me wondering is the whole exclusive line works very well too. But if it's just the hq that is giving the good lighting, then the hq 4% I ordered a few days back should work well too I guess. I may try the soap you mentioned one of these days too. So the f&w exclusive maybe a plan b or c for me.

oh, it was the f&w exclusive whitenizer gel. comes in a small tube i think for around 15 bucks. I had been thinking off and on to give it a try since I have read mostly good things about how light it can make the face, it contains hq. So, it had me wondering is the whole exclusive line works very well too. but if it's just the hq that is giving the good lighting, then the hq 4% I ordered a few days back should work well too I guess. I may try the soap you mentioned one of these days too. so the f&w exclusive maybe a plan b or c for me.
I don't think the f&w exclusive line contains hq.. It doesn't say so on the ingredients.. the regular line contains hq.
The f&w exclusive line is really good. I tried the body lotion but it did nothing for me but then again I only used it for like three weeks lol... I've been using the f&w whitenizer gel mixed with the serum and face cream and I lightened about 5 shades in 4 months on my face.. had to stop because I was too fair... I stopped using it for the summer and darkened like three shades so now I'm using just the gel and serum again... imo.. the serum is stronger than the gel but you have to mix the serum with a cream or the gel for it to work really well.

Paln b or c for me as well

So the f&w whitenizer gel mixed with the serum and face cream will make the skin quite fair, that's some really good stuff then. Is this the serum and cream that your talking about? http://beauty4us.net/product_images/fair%20and%20white%20new%20package%20serum%2030ml. jpg http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21cRmszO2pL._SL500_AA180_.jpg

I saw the whitenizer gel for around $9.85 on Amazon, so that's a nice price. But the crème costs more than the makari. Yeah your right, the exclusive only mentioned kojic acid. But kojic is not known to brighten so much so fast though. And others on forums said it contained hq, but I don't see it listed in the ingredients list. I wonder if it would also work great mixing the f&w gel with makari, if it will make it more potent?

Ah I really must get these! :D
Its so weird it seems everyone was in a grey patch and now it seems everyone has these amazing regimes now its so confusing which one to go with :s :|

It's crazy especially since I just started Makari.

I know isn't it so sexy
There's now the christiline, the mequinol retin a, the hq retin a, f&w, this f&f eggo has been using!so confusing!

Why are u getting confused? Don't be confused just start your own regime because what someone else is using may not work for you because christaline glycerin did absolutely nothing for me. There's even a member on here that got no results from HQ so like I said start your own. What I do is look for a good soap, a facial scrub or clenser, a cream for the face and neck, and a body lotion. Fyi- the products don't have to be from the same company. And don't forget about trial and error..

I agree, I just found some palmers lotion that I had, YEA it has HQ in it but I'm going to apply my Christaline to it and use on my legs. I am using the Makari on my hands. I love my LIkas soap on my face But I do want to find a exfoliating soap for my body. One that I can just wash with and not have to let it soak in. Right now I'm using an exfoliating body wash.

so the f&w whitenizer gel mixed with the serum and face cream will make the skin quite fair, that's some really good stuff then. Is this the serum and cream that your talking about? http://beauty4us.net/product_images/fair%20and%20white%20new%20package%20serum%2030ml. jpg http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21cRmszO2pL._SL500_AA180_.jpg

I saw the whitenizer gel for around $9.85 on amazon, so that's a nice price. but the creme costs more than the makari. yeah your right, the exclusive only mentioned kojic acid. but kojic is not known to brighten so much so fast though. and others on forums said it contained hq, but I don't see it listed in the ingredients list. i wonder if it would also work great mixing the f&w gel with makari, if it will make it more potent?

Yes that's the face cream.when I started bleaching last jan, I only used the face cream and the serum.. not the gel.. I lightened 5 shades with those two products.. I got so happy with the results and wanted to keep getting fairer faster so I added the gel to the mix.. lol.. was too fair and my mom kept telling me to stop so I took a break for the summer. Right now I'm using only the serum and gel and it lightens just as good also. The cream is too expensive so I'm not using it at the moment. The cream makes your face really smooth so that's the advantage it has.. if you were to use one product, I would recommend the serum mixed with the gel or any other cream of your choice.. The serum is the strongest but it won't work well unless mixed with a cream or gel.

OK thanks Sagluva. Did you squeeze the tube of the gel in the serum and then mix, or just used them one after the other?

Just what I was going to ask!
Also is it it the plain serum or the one with the vit C
Does it make a difference? :S

Is this hydroquinone based?

I need to lighten up my arms fast!

What the f&w? I think it is

Awww I don't think it'll work on me. I tried it on my face once it just turned me red. You guys are lucky hydro works for you.

ok thanks Sagluva. did you squeeze the tube of the gel in the serum and then mix, or just used them one after the other?

I mix them together in my palm every morning and then rub on my face. When you mix two creams together and store, after a while the potency of the cream reduces. That's y I always mix a little bit in my palm every morning/evening before each use.

just what i was going to ask!
also is it it the plain serum or the one with the vit C
does it make a difference? :S

I've used both but to be honest I don't think there is any diffrence really between the regular and vit c one.. I just get the regular because its cheaper and take vit c pills lol

From what I know it is hq based nothing wrong with hq, its just not advisable to use it longterm

Aurgh the bio claire is making my face all rosy looking and I've got pink cheeks :|
What should I do? I didn't apply it today... anything else?

fairr, could it be that you've lightened too much; that's why you're turning pink? If so, shouldn't that be a good thing? :confused:

Edit: I've just realised you're a guy and pink cheeks are probably not so cool for you after all.. lol

Oh I never thought about that...
It still looks horrid! Haha

Who knows what the out come of the bio clair will do, hopefully the pink goes away.

Yeah I'm going to get off it next week and start a new regime...

Post your regimen when you start

Yeah I will its retin a and hq 4% and vit C
What's your regime so sexy?

I'm still waiting what seems like forever for my retin a and hq 4% to finally arrive, I feel I might as well go to India and just pick it up to speed up things.

Hahaha ah golden!
I was so annoyed I did a brown deciet and went through my mums 'skin cream' draw and struck gold with some obagi 4% hq with vitamin C then found a tube of retin A
I was so happy then when I was out she must've gone through my things and taken back the hq, now I can't find it
But I still have the retin a...
I'm thinking of mixing it in with the F&W exclusive whitenizer with vitamin C?

By the way where did you order yours from? Everywhere seems so expensive!

I'm still waiting what seems like forever for my retin a and hq 4% to finally arrive, I feel I might as well go to India and just pick it up to speed up things.

Haha!

Yaaaayy! They arrived today! So, I won't have to make a trip. I ordered mine from All Day Chemist, they are based in India and are quite professional and legit. They sell many different things, I have the hq 4% $1.38 for 30g, retin-a gel 0.05% $2.52 for 20g, and latisse (eyelash) $10. Really good prices but the shipping & handling is $25, but if you order more the prices is still set so I got 4 of each and 1 latisse. So the their timing wasn't too bad, it was only actually a week and a half.

Fairr mixing the retin-a and F&W exclusive whitenizer w/ vit. C may work really well so give it a try and let me know how it works. Lol... how your mom took her obagi back, but still have the r-a. I remember doing a brown a few years back w/ my mom's hq crème and used it for my acne spots and was impressed... and then she hid the jar from me.

I was actually thinking today experimenting a bit too, wondering if I wash with the Likas, then apply the hq and few min. later apply the chrystaline, then sun block 15-30 min after. And use the retin-a in the evening everyother night in exchange for the hq. I never ordered this much lightening products at once but may give this a try before I go to bed.

yaaaayy! they arrived today! so, I won't have to make a trip. I ordered mine from All Day Chemist, they are based in India and are quite professional and legit. They sell many different things, I have the hq 4% $1.38 for 30g, retin-a gel 0.05% $2.52 for 20g, and latisse (eyelash) $10. Really good prices but the shipping & handling is $25, but if you order more the prices is still set so I got 4 of each and 1 latisse. so the their timing wasn't too bad, it was only actually a week and a half.

Fairr mixing the retin-a and F&W exclusive whitenizer w/ vit. C may work really well so give it a try and let me know how it works. lol...how your mom took her obagi back, but still have the r-a. I remember doing a brown a few years back w/ my mom's hq creme and used it for my acne spots and was impressed...and then she hid the jar from me.

I was actually thinking today experimenting a bit too, wondering if I wash with the Likas, then apply the hq and few min. later apply the chrystaline, then sun block 15-30 min after. And use the retin-a in the evening everyother night in exchange for the hq. I never ordered this much lightening products at once but may give this a try before I go to bed.

Please post your regimen once you decide now you got me excited lol

OK, I will!

yaaaayy! they arrived today! so, I won't have to make a trip. I ordered mine from All Day Chemist, they are based in India and are quite professional and legit. They sell many different things, I have the hq 4% $1.38 for 30g, retin-a gel 0.05% $2.52 for 20g, and latisse (eyelash) $10. Really good prices but the shipping & handling is $25, but if you order more the prices is still set so I got 4 of each and 1 latisse. so the their timing wasn't too bad, it was only actually a week and a half.

Fairr mixing the retin-a and F&W exclusive whitenizer w/ vit. C may work really well so give it a try and let me know how it works. lol...how your mom took her obagi back, but still have the r-a. I remember doing a brown a few years back w/ my mom's hq creme and used it for my acne spots and was impressed...and then she hid the jar from me.

I was actually thinking today experimenting a bit too, wondering if I wash with the Likas, then apply the hq and few min. later apply the chrystaline, then sun block 15-30 min after. And use the retin-a in the evening everyother night in exchange for the hq. I never ordered this much lightening products at once but may give this a try before I go to bed.

I think its best to apply the cristalline and let it completely dry before you put the hq on your face. If uaplly it after the hq, your face may be too oily and it will produce acne. My mom also told me that if you mix glycerin with other lightening products, they won't work because glycerin kills the ingredients. What is latisse? I think I'm going to order the hq, too bad I didn't order it with my last order

i think its best to apply the cristalline and let it completely dry before u put the hq on ur face. if uaplly it after the hq, ur face may be too oily and it will produce acne. My mom also told me that if u mix glycerin with other lightening products, they wont work because glycerin kills the ingredients. wut is latisse? i think i'm going to order the hq, too bad i didnt order it with my last order

lol... too late, I learned the hard way. I had did it opposite though, that night when I posted this I tried the hq first and waited a half hour for it too absorb. Then applied the christaline.. but it never ever absorbed and it just sat on my skin even hours later, and was quite uncomfortable :(, I was tempted to just wash it all off that night but I was too tiered. Yesterday and today I tried somethig different, tell me what you all think:
morning: Likas, then christaline, after absorbed I applied sunblock 35 min later.
evening: Likas, retin-a, then hq 4% 30 min. later.

this way I'm putting them to use, but all will be absorbed and one will not cancel out the other, correct? The info sheet for the retin-a states that it can be used 1X daily. So I'll try and use it once every evening, but if my skin doesn't adjust well to this then I'll cut back to everyother day. Unsure if the whole process will slow, speed up, or remain neutral with progressive lightening. But it's worth a try. I possibly may tinker with the regimine again if needed.

I'm not an expert GG but that sched. Sounds pretty good to me.

I have back-burnered my Cristalline glycerine until my arms are where I want them. I was afraid it would slow the process. So my current idea is to save it for maintenance later and rely on the hq & ff for lightening now.

lol...too late, I learned the hard way. I had did it opposite though, that night when I posted this I tried the hq first and waited a half hour for it too absorb. then applied the christaline..but it never ever absorbed and it just sat on my skin even hours later, and was quite uncomfortable :(, I was tempted to just wash it all off that night but I was too tiered. Yesterday and today I tried somethig different, tell me what you all think:
morning: Likas, then christaline, after absorbed I applied sunblock 35 min later.
evening: Likas, retin-a, then hq 4% 30 min. later.

this way I'm putting them to use, but all will be absorbed and one will not cancel out the other, correct? The info sheet for the retin-a states that it can be used 1X daily. so I'll try and use it once every evening, but if my skin doesn't adjust well to this then I'll cut back to everyother day. Unsure if the whole process will slow, speed up, or remain neutral with progressive lightening. but it's worth a try. I possibly may tinker with the regimine again if needed.
Your regimen sounds good. If you want to speed up the process, you may want to use the hq 4% twice a day though.
I personaly have never had problems with the cristallline being sticky.. I apply with a cottonball and rub it in really well and after two mintutes its completely dry. I was thinking of getting the hq 4% from alldaychemist and adding it to my long regimen lol... my chest is really light now so I want my face to catch up fast. Do you think its safe to mix the hq with my fair and white whitenizer products? Or maybe I'll get the hq with tret. Not sure the percentage of the hq in that cream.

OK, thanks guys for the advice.

Sagluva is your chest naturally light or did you lighten it. I wouldn't see aproblem with mixing the hq and f&w, just have to figure out how to prevent the hq from oxidizing once removed from it's tube so it can remain effective. The hq I have is a crème, so they may have a gel form too, unsure if that matters or not.