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CGM91
Oct 11, 2009, 08:24 AM
I have been dating this girl who is 16 years old, while I am 18 years old. I am currently in college while she is in grade 11 high school. We have been dating for more then a year now and I am just wondering about a few things.
I have had some trouble with her flirting with other guys in the past, she has gotten better but I notice she still has some slip ups and it hurts me. I was on Facebook a little while ago and I was just looking at one of her pages and she left a comment on one of her "Summer flings" pictures. It read "hey hottie! how are you and (insert her name) I miss you <3." Supposedly her summer fling (before she met me) just broke up with his girlfriend and she was just being nice. But I have been trouble getting over it, is something wrong with me?
Just recently some guy in her class asked her to come over to his house and watch a movie with him. She said yes because he is supposedly a shy, awkward dude and he got the nerve to ask her. I was pissed off when I heard this from her, I immediately told her that I was uncomfortable with this and she said "I don`t have to go if you don't want me to." I felt bad but I was still mad that she actually said yes.
She is working two jobs and she has high school to deal with while I am working one job and have college to deal with. We don't see each other very much, we didn't even see each other over the long weekend (thanksgiving weekend.. I am Canadian). We had plans for tomorrow but she canceled them to go with her friend to her friends grandparents house for Thanksgiving. She said "I already had the plans laid out and you can't cancel them." Unfortunately she has canceled our plans before and did today to see her friend.
I don't know what to think about this situation, am I over reacting? It seems like everything even the small things tick me off and I get mad at her. I don't know why. I love her very much, I would just like an opinion on how I should be going about all this.
Thanks -
Chris.
amicon
Oct 11, 2009, 09:41 AM
Have a serious conversation about your relationship. At 16 she s still quite young. Do you get angry because you feel you can't trust her?
CGM91
Oct 11, 2009, 09:49 AM
Have a serious conversation about your relationship. At 16 she s still quite young. Do you get angry because you feel you can't trust her?
I trust her, I get upset because she knows what I am comfortable with and seems to be going against it with no regard for my feelings.
amicon
Oct 11, 2009, 09:57 AM
That's why the two of you need to talk and find a solution that you re both comfortable with.
CGM91
Oct 12, 2009, 07:35 AM
Thats why the two of you need to talk and find a solution that you re both comfortable with.
Hm.
CGM91
Oct 12, 2009, 07:42 AM
My girlfriend is kind of an "Attention Seeker" per say, and she likes to be looked at. I don't mind if other guys look at her, but she tends to over exaggerate her bra size and buys bra's too big for her. When she bends over you can easily see her whole breast. I don't mind guys checking her out but I don't like that she is practically flashing them.
I don't know how to bring this topic up nicely with her? Or should I even bother?
kctiger
Oct 12, 2009, 07:51 AM
I wouldn't trust her. She seems to enjoy attention. Re-read your original question and then tell me, objectively if possible, how you would answer this question if another person asked it.
Read the signs man. You already have trust issues with her and regardless of how much you like her, it will effect your behavior. I would be gone. People like to say, "Have a serious talk with her," but you know what? Sometimes actions speak louder than words... hers do, and I think it is high time you paid attention to them.
I trust her, I get upset because she knows what I am comfortable with and seems to be going against it with no regard for my feelings.
This should be a pretty big hint to you. I think this answers any questions you may have.
I wish
Oct 12, 2009, 07:58 AM
If so many small things can piss you off, then imagine when things get serious?
I'd say leave each other alone and meet new people.
s_cianci
Oct 12, 2009, 08:04 AM
Ultimately you need to decide whether you're comfortable with things the way they are or not ; that's your call to make. I always like to tell people to go with their gut instinct ; if it seems wrong, then it probably is. Keep in mind that you won't and can't change her ; she is who she is. If you're willing and able to deal with what currently is, then fine. If not, then it's time for you to break it off tactfully but firmly.
s_cianci
Oct 12, 2009, 08:05 AM
I wouldn't trust her. She seems to enjoy attention. Re-read your original question and then tell me, objectively if possible, how you would answer this question if another person asked it. This is a good tactic to employ.
CGM91
Oct 12, 2009, 08:23 AM
Interesting.
She is a pretty good girlfriend but just inexperienced with relationships. I am thinking if I wait it out and try to guide her it will get better. And in a way it is getting better.
talaniman
Oct 12, 2009, 08:57 AM
Young fellow, it takes a special kind of secure guy to deal with a young girl who is exploring her own emerging sexuality, and the effects it has on other guys. You either get over your jealousy, and let her grow, which means putting up with her antics for attention, Or get some one who is further along the life line, as she is still in high school, and smelling herself.
All you can do is tell her (gently of course) to respect you, and your relationship, and see if she does, or can at 16.
Don't you remember how you were at 16? I doubt she will be much different. You want a mature relationship, get a mature partner, I'm sure they are out there. But don't expect her to go along with all your feelings, or wants, she may not see things that you do. Not at 16.
CGM91
Oct 12, 2009, 09:06 AM
I seem to not be able to PM you talaniman, due to my shortage in post count.
Since my other thread was deleted, can you answer my other question as well?
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My girlfriend buys bra's too big, and when she bends over her whole breast is exposed. It bothers me, how should I tell her to reveal herself with appearing like a prick? Or should I bother?
CGM91
Oct 12, 2009, 09:09 AM
Cover herself up* <- I can't edit my own post either :p
CGM91
Oct 15, 2009, 07:08 PM
Currently I am 17 years old and turning 18 in a few days, my girlfriend is 15 and turning 16 on December 5th.
She doesn't seem to have any symptoms but she seems to be about a week late or so.
Advice, Information etc.. Would be very appreciated.
*Edit
I am from Canada, Ontario. The age of consent was moved to 16 last year I believe.
Survivor07
Oct 15, 2009, 07:33 PM
The authorities would have to be contacted to pursue charges against you.
I'm from the U.S. If you were here, you would not be charged unless you got her pregnant after you turned 18.
I do not know Canadian law, but hopefully someone will answer your question soon.
Just get a pregnancy test to ease your mind AND practice safe sex or better yet, abstinence until you both are old enough to not get into trouble with the law over having sex and are capable of raising a child. Good luck to you
CGM91
Oct 15, 2009, 07:58 PM
IF she is pregnant, I am definitely considering abortion. We both have a lot going for us and a child would be over bearing at the moment.
Do abortion clinics cost money? And if so how much?
justcurious55
Oct 15, 2009, 08:05 PM
Hm, that's nice that you're considering abortion. What about her?
Why not figure out if she is or is not pregnant before you even start worrying about adoption or keeping it. It might not even be something you end up needing to consider right now
CGM91
Oct 15, 2009, 08:21 PM
hm, that's nice that you're considering abortion. what about her?
why not figure out if she is or is not pregnant before you even start worrying about adoption or keeping it. it might not even be something you end up needing to consider right now
I like to think in the future so I can prepare myself and whoever else and make the most intellectual and ethical choice I can.
And yes, she is going to take a pregnancy test and I hope we don't see the "+++++" but if we do I would like a back up plan.
I know at 15/16 your period is not 100% regular as last month she was a week later for her period. It could be the same in this case, I surely hope so. I have definitely learned my lesson however. We are going to wait till she is 16 and then she is going to get on B/C asap. But speaking in the present, does anyone know how much Abortion Clinics cost? Are they covered in your Health Care for Canada?
Survivor07
Oct 15, 2009, 09:11 PM
Before you start thinking abortion, get the pregnancy test. You could save yourself all this stress.
Remember, birth control is not 100 percent effective, doubling up methods such as her being on the pill and you using a condom is a suggestion, because you obviously do not want children.
Alty
Oct 15, 2009, 09:21 PM
As far as I know abortions are not covered under Alberta health care because it is a side option, not part of basic health care.
I'm not sure of the cost, that's something you'll have to find out by calling clinics or utilizing the internet.
As for being charged. Yes, you can be charged. The legal age of consent is 16, your girlfriend isn't legal, you are, so you are going to be considered a sex offender.
Will you be charged? That depends on her parents, the clinic and her.
Some lessons are learned the hard way. I have to ask, if you don't want children right now, which is a good choice, why weren't you using birth control?
CGM91
Oct 16, 2009, 07:08 AM
As far as I know abortions are not covered under Alberta health care because it is a side option, not part of basic health care.
I'm not sure of the cost, that's something you'll have to find out by calling clinics or utilizing the internet.
As for being charged. Yes, you can be charged. The legal age of consent is 16, your girlfriend isn't legal, you are, so you are going to be considered a sex offender.
Will you be charged? That depends on her parents, the clinic and her.
Some lessons are learned the hard way. I have to ask, if you don't want children right now, which is a good choice, why weren't you using birth control?
For the obvious reason that she didn't want her parents to know that she was sexually active.
CGM91
Oct 16, 2009, 07:19 AM
If she was pregnant, at the abortion clinic.. I heard many females lie about their age. What would be penalty in doing so?
I know most abortion clinics just want money and tend to over ride legal issues.
justcurious55
Oct 16, 2009, 11:15 AM
Have you figure out yet is she is pregnant or not? You need to figure that out first. Has she taken a test yet? If she's a week late, she should be able to test now. She should use her first morning urine to do so.
And no, lying about her age sounds like a bad idea.
justcurious55
Oct 16, 2009, 11:15 AM
Have you figure out yet is she is pregnant or not? You need to figure that out first. Has she taken a test yet? If she's a week late, she should be able to test now. She should use her first morning urine to do so.
And no, lying about her age sounds like a bad idea.
Edit: sorry for the double post, I don't know what my computer/internet is doing today! I thought there was a delete button?
Survivor07
Oct 16, 2009, 01:02 PM
Yeah, I agree that lying about her age is a very bad idea. This is why teens having sex is a bad idea. They're not equipped to deal with the physical, emotional and financial consequences.
First, find out if she's pregnant. If she is and abortion is what SHE wants, then it is in her best interest to confide in a trusted adult. I would be devastated if I found out my daughter had an abortion at 15 and went through it without me. Most parents don't expect perfection from their teens. I understand she doesn't want them to know but if they're loving parents, I'm sure they would get over their initial disappointment and help HER.
Just a thought: She could have complications from an abortion and need emergency care at a hospital.
justcurious55
Oct 16, 2009, 02:09 PM
Had to spread the rep survivor. But I completely agree again. If it turns out she is pregnant, the option of having an abortion is more than just about what he wants. And there's a reason there are laws in place about the age of consent. It's so that hopefully, less children are put in this situation.
CGM91
Oct 16, 2009, 04:31 PM
I will get a pregnancy test tomorrow.
I read a few places on the internet that in Canada, Abortions are covered in the health plan and can be kept private as long as the woman/girl is above the age of 12.
Alty
Oct 16, 2009, 04:52 PM
Here is some info on abortions in Canada.
AbortionInCanada.ca .:. (http://www.abortionincanada.ca/)
It seems that abortions done in hospitals are covered under health care but abortions in private clinics aren't.
As for age of consent for an abortion, I couldn't find any info on that. It would make sense though that the age for consent for abortion would be the same as age of consent for sex. In other words, you girlfriend would need parental permission.
CGM91
Oct 16, 2009, 05:23 PM
Here is some info on abortions in Canada.
AbortionInCanada.ca .:. (http://www.abortionincanada.ca/)
It seems that abortions done in hospitals are covered under health care but abortions in private clinics aren't.
As for age of consent for an abortion, I couldn't find any info on that. It would make sense though that the age for consent for abortion would be the same as age of consent for sex. In other words, you girlfriend would need parental permission.
Thanks for the link,
I don't think the bolded part is true. Anyone is allowed to have an abortion, it is their decision and their baby. Not their parents.
Alty
Oct 16, 2009, 05:27 PM
Thanks for the link,
I don't think the bolded part is true. Anyone is allowed to have an abortion, it is their decision and their baby. Not their parents.
That's true, but age is a consideration.
Think about it, if she's not legal to have sex then being pregnant would cause problems, because she obviously has had sex.
She may be able to get an abortion without parental consent, but the clinic would have
To report her age to authorities.
I'm not trying to scare you, I'm only being honest. It's best that you talk things out with her. Obviously a publicly funded clinic is your best bet, because health care would cover the cost, but I have to assume that publicly funded facilities will be even more concerned with her age and the fact that she's not of legal consent.
J_9
Oct 16, 2009, 05:34 PM
Anyone is allowed to have an abortion, it is their decision and their baby. Not their parents.
Not so. An abortion is an invasive medical procedure that carries with it many risks. Your girlfriend is not old enough to completely comprehend the possible risks involved with an abortion or any other medically invasive procedure, therefore, her parents must give consent as they are her legal ADULT guardians.
CGM91
Oct 16, 2009, 05:41 PM
Not so. An abortion is an invasive medical procedure that carries with it many risks. Your gf is not old enough to completely comprehend the possible risks involved with an abortion or any other medically invasive procedure, therefore, her parents must give consent as they are her legal ADULT guardians.
Do you know this for a fact? I know that abortions are much safer then giving birth. There are many types of abortions, If she is pregnant I think she would be most comfortable with either pill ingestion (where she has a normal period and bleeds out the fetus) or suction where they.. "vacuum" the fetus out of the womb.
I found this site;
The Morgentaler Clinic (http://www.morgentaler.ca/contact_ottawa.html)
If she is pregnant, I am going to email them and ask them questions. It says if I am an Ontario Citizen then Health Care Pays for it. However, if I am not an Ontario Resident then the price will be around 500-600 dollars.
I want to make sure she is as safe and comfortable as possible, and I also want to make sure that I don't get my butt sued.
It's a lot of stress, it is very hard not to stress even when you are not sure of if she is pregnant or not.
justcurious55
Oct 16, 2009, 05:50 PM
Me and at least one other have asked you a few times now, is she really wanting an abortion if she is pregnant or is this still you wanting her o have an abortion? Why won't you answer? Even now, talking about specific types of abortions its still "i think she..." not actually what she thinks or feels, still all about your thoughts.
Wondergirl
Oct 16, 2009, 05:53 PM
Are you already pressuring her to get an abortion? How does she feel about it? (Many girls her age want a baby "to love.") And how will she feel about an abortion (and you) afterwards -- and in years to come? This isn't just an inconvenient little piece of tissue inside her, if she's truly pregnant.
J_9
Oct 16, 2009, 05:56 PM
Do you know this for a fact? I know that abortions are much safer then giving birth.
I am a registered nurse working in the women's health field... specifically labor and delivery. Yes, I know this for a fact. A person must be 18 to enter into a legal contract... this includes medical consent forms.
Now, you are putting the cart before the horse. You don't even know if she IS pregnant yet. You are just freaking out because she is late and you know this is common for her.
Also, you don't even know that she would want an abortion. You are just preparing for what you want.
Simply put, young man, if you aren't ready for the consequences of adulthood, then don't play the game. Three P's come to mind here... Keep your penis in your pants until you are ready to be a paren't.
Alty
Oct 16, 2009, 06:00 PM
I want to make sure she is as safe and comfortable as possible, and I also want to make sure that I don't get my butt sued.
Sued?
Sweetie, you'd be listed as a sexual predator. You'd be charged with statutory rape. This isn't a matter of paying some money and sweeping it under the rug. This is a criminal charge.
CGM91
Oct 16, 2009, 06:02 PM
me and at least one other have asked you a few times now, is she really wanting an abortion if she is pregnant or is this still you wanting her o have an abortion? why won't you answer? even now, talking about specific types of abortions its still "i think she..." not actually what she thinks or feels, still all about your thoughts.
I am not sure if she wants an abortion.
J_9
Oct 16, 2009, 06:05 PM
I am not sure if she wants an abortion.
If you aren't sure, then stop planning it. Be mature and wait until you find out if she is or isn't before you start making plans. Remember, you aren't the only one involved here. In the end, it is her decision, not yours.
CGM91
Oct 16, 2009, 06:12 PM
If you aren't sure, then stop planning it. Be mature and wait until you find out if she is or isn't before you start making plans. Remember, you aren't the only one involved here. In the end, it is her decision, not yours.
That is true, she is the one harvesting and creating the baby. However, neither of us are ready for parent hood. We both have a lot going for our self and having a child...
I don't want to say it is a mistake, it is a surprise.
Anyway, I am worrying and planning for the future. It is the only thing I can do right now.
And yes I understand that I can be charged, do you know if I can be charged if my girlfriend and her parents do not want to lay charges? Can the government still charge me with statuary rape? (which I think is complete B.S).
I appreciate all the answers and opinions.
Wondergirl
Oct 16, 2009, 06:19 PM
That is true, she is the one harvesting and creating the baby.
You BOTH created it, if there is one. What does "harvesting" mean? Is having a baby like picking tomatoes?
CGM91
Oct 16, 2009, 06:21 PM
You BOTH created it, if there is one. What does "harvesting" mean? Is having a baby like picking tomatoes?
Haha, yes I am that "koo-koo."
I meant that she is the temple that is creating a miracle, Ma'am.
Bringing another little human being into this world is a beautiful thing, but it is just not the right time.
J_9
Oct 16, 2009, 06:22 PM
neither of us are ready for parent hood. We both have a lot going for our self and having a child...
I guess you should have thought of that before you took the Penis out of the Pants.
I can tell you that if she were my daughter, and I do have one her age, I would be prosecuting you. You obviously knew better, otherwise you wouldn't be asking here.
CGM91
Oct 16, 2009, 06:29 PM
I guess you should have thought of that before you took the Penis out of the Pants.
I didn't take my penis out.
I can tell you that if she were my daughter, and I do have one her age, I would be prosecuting you. You obviously knew better, otherwise you wouldn't be asking here.
I don't think you would, I have a pretty good head on my shoulders. It was a spontaneous moment thing. We were waiting for the right time and unfortunately..
Alty
Oct 16, 2009, 06:34 PM
I didn't take my penis out.
I don't think you would, I have a pretty good head on my shoulders. It was a spontaneous moment thing. We were waiting for the right time and unfortunately..
You did take your penis out, and you inserted it into an underage girl.
I don't think you're really getting how much trouble this could cause. A sexual predator, for life. It means being on a sexual offender list, forever. You will be, already are, considered a rapist.
Having said that, let's not put the buggy in front of the horse. Find out if she's pregnant first, then panic. Right now you're making plans for something that's not even a sure thing.
Wondergirl
Oct 16, 2009, 06:39 PM
I don't think you would, I have a pretty good head on my shoulders. It was a spontaneous moment thing. We were waiting for the right time and unfortunately..
But you are the adult who pushes emotion aside and says "no." Sexual spontaneity is not part of the relationship when she is only 15.
justcurious55
Oct 16, 2009, 06:40 PM
You have such a good head on your shoulders that even though she may be pregnant with your baby you're still trying to say that you didn't take your penis out? What happened then? Did the stork visit her womb?
J_9
Oct 16, 2009, 06:42 PM
I don't think you would,
Apparently you don't know me. Yes, I would prosecute a boy who takes advantage of my 15 year old.
CGM91
Oct 16, 2009, 06:46 PM
You did take your penis out, and you inserted it into an underage girl.
I don't think you're really getting how much trouble this could cause. A sexual predator, for life. It means being on a sexual offender list, forever. You will be, already are, considered a rapist.
Having said that, let's not put the buggy in front of the horse. Find out if she's pregnant first, then panic. Right now you're making plans for something that's not even a sure thing.
If I am coming off as a smart @SS or not caring, let me know please. Because that is definitely not the case.
CGM91
Oct 16, 2009, 06:47 PM
you have such a good head on your shoulders that even though she may be pregnant with your baby you're still trying to say that you didn't take your penis out? what happened then? did the stork visit her womb?
No, she took my penis out.
justcurious55
Oct 16, 2009, 06:48 PM
And what? You were tied up and couldn't say no?
Wondergirl
Oct 16, 2009, 06:48 PM
If I am coming off as a smart @SS or not caring, let me know please.
Add avoidant personality too.
J_9
Oct 16, 2009, 06:48 PM
No, she took my penis out.
And you didn't have the "head on your shoulders" to say no!! You are the more mature person here. Well, at least you are supposed to be.
Alty
Oct 16, 2009, 06:54 PM
No, she took my penis out.
You do realize that you still inserted it where it shouldn't have been, right?
Or are you trying to say that she raped you?
CGM91
Oct 16, 2009, 07:02 PM
Well this thread has now gotten to the point where it is just flaming.
Thank you for the information, I expected a more mature audience especially on a website where many needy people who are desperate for answers come for guidance.
For those of you who care and are interested let me know and I will keep you informed. The rest, I appreciate your opinions and posts but I do not need the childish reply's and comments.
justcurious55
Oct 16, 2009, 07:05 PM
What were you expecting? You had sex with a little girl and she may be pregnant now. But you're trying to say that since she took it out of your pants, it's not your fault? An even though you don't even know for sure if she is pregnant, and if she is you don't even know if she wants an abortion, you're already planning her abortion. If you don't want the sarcastic comments back, don't do stupid things like try to blame this all on her.
J_9
Oct 16, 2009, 07:08 PM
Most of us are parents... many of us have young girls, so this hits close to the heart. I'm not apologizing for our remarks, but rather justifying them.
When you had intercourse with this girl, you KNEW that it was wrong, yet you claim to have a good head on your shoulders.
Yes, if she is pregnant, you face criminal charges. Her parents do not necessarily have to report it. Here in the states, when I have a minor that comes in pregnant from someone significantly older than her (above the legal age of consent), it is my duty to report that person. If I don't, I could face criminal charges.
I don't think you comprehend the severity of the situation you might be in.
Unfortunately you think our responses are childish, but that's because you don't want to hear the truth.
The truth of the matter is that you were wrong, you broke the law, and you very well could be charged with child molestation and/or statutory rape.
Next time THINK before you have sex. It can and will ruin the lives of many people at such young ages.
CGM91
Oct 16, 2009, 07:09 PM
what were you expecting? you had sex with a little girl and she may be pregnant now. but you're trying to say that since she took it out of your pants, it's not your fault? an even though you don't even know for sure if she is pregnant, and if she is you don't even know if she wants an abortion, you're already planning her abortion. if you don't want the sarcastic comments back, don't do stupid things like try to blame this all on her.
I am not blaming anything on anyone, please..
She is not a little girl, maybe she's hasn't been on this planet long enough for her to be classified as a "big girl" but she is quite mature. She works 2 jobs, finishing high school and trying to get a scholarship.
I am planning in the future, what is the problem with doing that? Would you not do the same? Would you not want to create a plan or gain more information on decision you might need to make? If you answered no I question your reasoning and mentality.
I am not going to be responding to any comments that are intended as hostile, if you ask a question I will answer, if you have information that would be deemed helpful or useful.. please don't be shy.
Thanks.
CGM91
Oct 16, 2009, 07:13 PM
Most of us are parents...many of us have young girls, so this hits close to the heart. I'm not apologizing for our remarks, but rather justifying them.
When you had intercourse with this girl, you KNEW that it was wrong, yet you claim to have a good head on your shoulders.
Yes, if she is pregnant, you face criminal charges. Her parents do not necessarily have to report it. Here in the states, when I have a minor that comes in pregnant from someone significantly older than her (above the legal age of consent), it is my duty to report that person. If I don't, I could face criminal charges.
I don't think you comprehend the severity of the situation you might be in.
Unfortunately you think our responses are childish, but that's because you don't want to hear the truth.
The truth of the matter is that you were wrong, you broke the law, and you very well could be charged with child molestation and/or statutory rape.
Next time THINK before you have sex. It can and will ruin the lives of many people at such young ages.
In Canada the age of consent was only changed from 14 to 16 last year. I was un-aware of this, I only found out that it was changed after I did my homework.
And yes I understand most of you can put yourself in this position, and I appreciate your comments more so then anyone Else's as your signature states that you are a registered nurse.
I made a mistake, it will not happen again.
justcurious55
Oct 16, 2009, 07:16 PM
Guess, what, 15 is still a child. She is not, and will not be for some time, a legal adult. That makes her a child.
There's a difference between planning for the future and freaking out for no good reason.
Let's really talk about reasoning.
Reasons not to plan an abortion yet:
1) she still doesn't know if she's actually pregnant.
2) you don't know if she actually wants an abortion, if she does in fact turn out to be pregnant.
And when you say things like she's the one harvesting and creating the baby... I didn't take my penis out, she did... yeah, it sounds like you are blaming her.
Alty
Oct 16, 2009, 07:19 PM
You sound a lot older then your age. I think a lot of us are forgetting that you too are still a child.
Try and see it from our perspective. We're all adults, we lived through our teen years. Many of us made the same mistakes you're making, and we survived.
We aren't trying to be mean. We aren't trying to bring you down. We're telling you the reality of your actions, the consequences that can follow. But really, you're still a child too.
You really just need to find out for sure if your girlfriend is pregnant. If she is, then go from there. If not, then you dodged a bullet and I'm hoping this is a wakeup call for the both of you.
Let's put one foot in front of the other. The next step is a pregnancy test. Then we can move forward from there.
Okay?
J_9
Oct 16, 2009, 07:21 PM
She is not a little girl, maybe shes hasn't been on this planet long enough for her to be classified as a "big girl" but she is quite mature. She works 2 jobs, finishing high school and trying to get a scholarship.
I mean in all seriousness... do you have any idea how many times we have heard that "she is quite mature" for her age either on this website or from our own children? Not only do many of us have children your ages, but we were also your ages once.
If she works 2 jobs, the places that she works should be reported. Children are only allowed to work a specific number of hours per week while in school. So this doesn't fly with me.
I am planning in the future, what is the problem with doing that?
The future does not include a baby... so keep it in your pants. If you are so mature, then learn how to say NO.
There is nothing wrong with that, but I'm sure a baby wasn't in the equation.
Would you not do the same? Already been there done that. That's why all 4 of my children were born IN wedlock and so were my grandchildren.
Would you not want to create a plan or gain more information on decision you might need to make? If you answered no I question your reasoning and mentality.
Unfortunately for you, if she is pregnant, this is not a decision YOU need to make. It will be HER decision and the decision of her parents. She is a minor and will need the consent of her parents for an abortion. The decision will be out of your hands.
CGM91
Oct 16, 2009, 07:31 PM
You sound a lot older then your age. I think a lot of us are forgetting that you too are still a child.
Try and see it from our perspective. We're all adults, we lived through our teen years. Many of us made the same mistakes you're making, and we survived.
We aren't trying to be mean. We aren't trying to bring you down. We're telling you the reality of your actions, the consequences that can follow. But really, you're still a child too.
You really just need to find out for sure if your girlfriend is pregnant. If she is, then go from there. If not, then you dodged a bullet and I'm hoping this is a wakeup call for the both of you.
Let's put one foot in front of the other. The next step is a pregnancy test. Then we can move forward from there.
Okay?
Yes, and thank you. I would have repped you but I already have.
CGM91
Oct 17, 2009, 10:28 AM
She was about 14-16 days late.
Not going to be a daddy, yet.
Lets see how close we can come next month :D! Yea.. no.
Not going to happen again for a while..
justcurious55
Oct 17, 2009, 10:36 AM
Although I strongly encourage you to abstain until you are both ready to have children, at least go buy some condoms just in case you have anymore spontaneous moments.
J_9
Oct 17, 2009, 12:08 PM
She was about 14-16 days late.
Not going to be a daddy, yet.
Lets see how close we can come next month :D!! Yea.. no.
Not going to happen again for a while..
Glad to hear you learned your lesson. Now, remember, she is jail bait!
CGM91
Oct 17, 2009, 12:32 PM
although i strongly encourage you to abstain until you are both ready to have children, at least go buy some condoms just in case you have anymore spontaneous moments.
I have heard till after marriage, but I have never heard of "when you are ready to have children." Which makes more sense, but.. I doubt I am going to or will be able to wait 10 years to have sex again.
J_9
Oct 17, 2009, 12:34 PM
In my case I was never "ready to have children" it just happened... all 4 times. Good thing I was married during all 4 times.
CGM91
Oct 17, 2009, 12:46 PM
Glad to hear you learned your lesson. Now, remember, she is jail bait!!
For a month and a half :p
J_9
Oct 17, 2009, 01:01 PM
For a month and a half :p
Yup, then you'll have pregnancy issues to worry about all over again. :cool:
CGM91
Oct 17, 2009, 01:03 PM
Yup, then you'll have pregnancy issues to worry about all over again. :cool:
Not until she is on B/C and I finish my Mid-terms.
J_9
Oct 17, 2009, 01:07 PM
Not until she is on B/C and I finish my Mid-terms.
Just remember that birth control is not 100% effective. As a matter of fact, it wasn't effective at all for me... just ask my two oldest sons. ;)
CGM91
Oct 17, 2009, 03:02 PM
Interesting..
J_9
Oct 17, 2009, 03:11 PM
True story. I was using the birth control pill when I became pregnant with both of my oldest sons. I was on high levels of hormones when I became pregnant with my daughter (3rd child), AND I was rendered sterile by chemo therapy. 6 years later came my youngest son. There are other members here who were using 2 or 3 methods of birth control and still got pregnant.
This only goes to show that the only 100% proof positive way that pregnancy won't occur is either abstinence or sterilization.
Wondergirl
Oct 17, 2009, 03:12 PM
Interesting..
Even if she takes the Pill and you use a condom, she could still get pregnant.
And don't use the pull-out method as birth control.
CGM91
Oct 17, 2009, 03:16 PM
Even if she takes the Pill and you use a condom, she could still get pregnant.
And don't use the pull-out method as birth control.
WHAT? Why not? :confused: I am kidding =)
justcurious55
Oct 17, 2009, 03:22 PM
Um. Because "pulling out" is code for unprotected sex. It's not even truly considered birth control.
CGM91
Oct 17, 2009, 03:23 PM
um. because "pulling out" is code for unprotected sex. it's not even truly considered birth control.
Lies.
Show me some evidence!
J_9
Oct 17, 2009, 03:26 PM
Lies.
Show me some evidence!!
Why don't you come with me to work tonight and I'll show you some evidence. I was supposed to be off, but 6 women came in in labor, now I got called in to deliver the babies.
Okay, for real now. Pre-ejaculate is what lubricates the penis prior to ejaculation. You cannot control pre-ejaculate just as a woman cannot control her vaginal lubrication when aroused. Pre-ejaculate contains sperm... sperm makes babies.
justcurious55
Oct 17, 2009, 03:27 PM
Are you serious?
CGM91
Oct 17, 2009, 03:27 PM
Haha, aww.. I love you ladies!
J_9
Oct 17, 2009, 03:30 PM
Haha, aww.. I love you ladies!
Only a couple of pages ago you despised us! What changed?
CGM91
Oct 17, 2009, 03:32 PM
Only a couple of pages ago you despised us!! What changed?
I never dispised, it is the internet. I simply just got tired of the flaming and stupid comments. The comments you guys are making now are just funny.
But seriously, Pulling out isn't considered Birth Control? :confused: Hahahaha
J_9
Oct 17, 2009, 03:34 PM
No, pulling out is not considered birth control.
Read my combined Stickeys here... https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/womens-health/info-answers-frequently-asked-questions-our-health-expert-53865.html
Now, the babies are coming! The babies are coming!!
It's off to work I go. Yes, I really am an RN in labor and delivery.
CGM91
Oct 17, 2009, 03:35 PM
OMG THE BABIES!
Haha,
*sigh*
Well.. I better go do something productive.
Wondergirl
Oct 17, 2009, 03:51 PM
tired of the flaming and stupid comments. The comments you guys are making now are just funny.
There was no flaming or stupid comments. We were all dead serious. And still are. No humor here. We get too many "am I pregnant" questions after unprotected and pull-out sex to be laughing about it.
ScottGem
Oct 17, 2009, 04:28 PM
Ok, I've read through this entire thread. The first thing that stood out was your talking about your choices. The thing is YOU have no choices. The choice here is her's and her's alone! You have no say in whether she gets an abortion or not. You can tell her what your preference is, but the choice is still her's.
However, according to my research a minor can have an abortion without parental consent or knowedge.
So here are the facts.
1) If she is pregnant, she gets to decide what to do about it.
2) You had sex with someone under the age of consent, therefore you are guilty of statutory rape. Whether you are prosecuted for it or not is up to her parents and the local prosecutor.
3) NO method of birth control is 100% effective. The pull ou method is so INEFFECTUAL as birth control, its not even considered birth control.
4) It doesn't matter who pulled it out. YOU allowed it with a minor. You needed to be the responsible one and you weren't.
So, you better pray she isn't pregnant and you need to CEASE having sexual intercourse until you are both ready (financially, physically and emotionally) to have a child.
CGM91
Oct 17, 2009, 06:05 PM
Ok, I've read through this entire thread. The first thing that stood out was your talking about your choices. The thing is YOU have no choices. The choice here is her's and her's alone! You have no say in whether she gets an abortion or not. You can tell her what your preference is, but the choice is still her's.
However, according to my research a minor can have an abortion without parental consent or knowedge.
So here are the facts.
1) If she is pregnant, she gets to decide what to do about it.
2) You had sex with someone under the age of consent, therefore you are guilty of statutory rape. Whether you are prosecuted for it or not is up to her parents and the local prosecutor.
3) NO method of birth control is 100% effective. The pull ou method is so INEFFECTUAL as birth control, its not even considered birth control.
4) It doesn't matter who pulled it out. YOU allowed it with a minor. You needed to be the responsible one and you weren't.
So, you better pray she isn't pregnant and you need to CEASE having sexual intercourse until you are both ready (financially, physically and emotionally) to have a child.
Clearly you didn't read the whole thread ;).
And I was kidding about the pull-out method, I am not that dense.. sarcasm was initiated with white colour text.
ScottGem
Oct 17, 2009, 06:14 PM
Yes I did read the whole thread and sarcasm is very hard to portray in writing. You failed to do so.
letmetellu
Oct 17, 2009, 07:13 PM
These are my sishes in your case. I hope the girl is not pregnant but if she is I hope she has the baby and gives it up for adoption and tells you to go to H+ll.
Then I hope you get prosicuted for sexual assault and child molestation and your picture and I D is put up on every bulletin board in the Internet. Also I hope that if the profession you wated to go into requires a license and you will not be elgible.
CGM9I
Oct 17, 2009, 07:28 PM
I don't understand? Why?
You are over-reacting like crazy. You think I raped the girl? We have been dating for more then a year, I was 17 and she was 15 when we had sex.
You think I should be prosicuted to the fullest because I had sex with my girlfriend although she was 3 months short of the allowed age to engage in intercourse?
Please, tell me.. why would I deserve such a punishment?
ScottGem
Oct 17, 2009, 07:37 PM
I don't understand? Why?
You are over-reacting like crazy. You think I raped the girl? We have been dating for more then a year, I was 17 and she was 15 when we had sex.
You think I should be prosicuted to the fullest because I had sex with my girlfriend although she was 3 months short of the allowed age to engage in intercourse?
Please, tell me.. why would I deserve such a punishment?
Simple answer. IT WAS AGAINST THE LAW!!
End of story!
Thread closed
CGM91
Oct 22, 2009, 12:29 PM
Some guy at my girlfriends school is constantly asking her to have sex with him and to do other sexually oriented activities. He even asked her in front of me at a school football game. I told him to watch his mouth or I would be fixing it for him and left with my girlfriend.
I am not sure what to do about this dude? My girlfriend would never cheat so I am not worried about that.. but she has told me numerous times that he is creepy and obsessive.
Do I go to the cops? Do I handle it myself? Right now I feel like driving over to his house and smashing him up. I have anger management so perhaps my testosterone is getting the best of me.
What do you think?
justcurious55
Oct 22, 2009, 12:43 PM
YOU do nothing except tell him to shut up next time he says something in front of you. Your girlfriend needs to be the one to take steps to protect herself. Since this seems to be happening at school, she should be reporting his behavior to school administrators. If that gets her no where then she shoul most definitely go to the police. My high school had a resource officer, so when me or my friends would have issues with guys, the vice principal would call the officer in so there was never any need for us to go outside the school for anything.
kctiger
Oct 22, 2009, 01:06 PM
JC is right.. let her (not you) tell the school administrators and then walk away. Be the bigger man in this situation as the guy is clearly a slime-ball. Never resort to violence because some idiot can't keep his mouth shut. One person in jail is always better than two in this case.
rockie100
Oct 22, 2009, 01:07 PM
Don't go doing anything that would earn you an asault charge. Fighting him wouldn't solve anything. It could even make your girlfriend wonder if your anger issues will affect your relationship at some point. Keep your cool.
Yes, this is her place to stop this creap from bothering her.
Catsmine
Oct 22, 2009, 02:07 PM
If this is the same girlfriend you have been writing about in other forums, I guess this means you haven't gotten her pregnant yet.
You do NOT want to be anywhere near the officers in this one. Let her handle it.
Cat1864
Oct 22, 2009, 02:11 PM
More of the relationship issues: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/teens/opinion-current-situation-needed-404786.html
I read your threads in the Teen Forum. Have you sat down and discussed your concerns with her.
I think there may be more to your reaction than just this guy being a creep. How much are you concerned that her actions and dress contribute to getting that type of reaction? Yes, those feelings and frustrations do have impact on the rest of your interactions especially when it comes to something that hits one of those nerve endings.
The solution to this person is for HER to report him to officials, school or otherwise. Even at 15 she has to be able to stand up for herself when it comes to sexual harassment. You won't always be around when she has to deal with creeps.
Yosomoton213
Oct 22, 2009, 02:12 PM
This guy is trying to get a rise out of you. He is being a complete butt-dart. Don't play his silly games. He obviously has no chance, and is in the "creep zone". I would advise your girl to report it to the school authorities, and then step back and let her handle it. Keep your cool, don't get physical. That's what the guy wants. Just ignore him, and tell him to stay in line if he disrespects your girlfriend again. However, I would give your girlfriend the chance to handle it for herself.
CGM91
Nov 14, 2009, 05:49 PM
My girlfriend asked me today to go on a break, we are currently in a slump right now.. anyway.. I said "is that what you want? are you sure?" and she responded with "ya, I just need to clear my head for a bit." We have been dating for more then a year, this is her first relationship (she is 16) and I am 18.
I am not sure what she is implying? Do you think she is just trying to break up with my nicely? Or is she just trying to get space to breathe and re-evaluate the relationship? She is working two jobs and is in school. And I guess I haven't been a trophy boyfriend lately.
Anyway, please respond I am kind of confused.
2ndTime
Nov 14, 2009, 06:01 PM
I don't know where you are, but I think you should give her a break. You may not have been a trophy boyfriend, but more about your relationship is needed to know more about you. In addition, because of your age people can consider you as a pedofile. If you don't know what this means try to look it up. I am not being mean it's the law.
CGM91
Nov 21, 2009, 06:35 PM
My now ex-girlfriend (who is 16) just broke up with me because she said that "she needs to date other guys because she can't commit to a long term relationship and that she needs to get hurt in relationships and gain experience before she is any good of a girlfriend to me"
I was her first boyfriend (I am 18) and I have been around per say..
What do you guys think? Should I forget about her? She is quite the women and we are both very compatible and our families are awesome. But she is very inexperienced and it would be unfair for me to make her only have one guy for the rest of her life?
Opinions?
Gemini54
Nov 21, 2009, 06:54 PM
Yes, she needs to gain life experience, and, may I add so do you. Your own inexperience is patently clear if you actually believe that at 16 and 18 you would be together 'for life'. The likelihood of this is so slim, as to be almost non-existent.
Listen to what she's saying. She's a teenager and she wants to do teenage things like date and have a good time. You should be wanting to do these things as well.
In fact she's more mature than you think - the fact that she recognizes her need to get more life experience is indicative of that!
Have a great time exploring the world.
Fr_Chuck
Nov 21, 2009, 07:02 PM
Well honestly it is not your choice, but there is nothing wrong at all in finding and dating only the one person you end up with.
But just like when you were 16 and may have changed girl friends like you did socks, at 16 this is what normally happens and to be expected
Cat1864
Nov 21, 2009, 07:51 PM
Once again, let's get the whole story in one place: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/teens/opinion-current-situation-needed-404786.html
You need to let her go to live her own life. It sounds like she is letting you down as easily as she knows how to. At least, she is stopping the game playing.
I think you have seen this coming because you have written about being concerned over her hanging out with other guys and her choice of clothing and actions along with the way other guys have been treating her.
Compatibility and families aren't the only requirements for a good relationship. So is trust and maturity.
I am not sure you trust her and she definitely does not have any maturity yet.
I would suggest reading the stickies at the top of the Relationship Forum about breaking up. They may hold some valuable information for you.