So I am planning to start up a new skin lightening regime because the Bio Claire turned out to be dangerous and really bad!! So I have been searching all of the beauty store websites for the next best thing! By reading the other threads I see that 55+H , RosanceX18/X20, Fair&White Whitenizer,Hydroquione 4%,Makari,and Power White are all very good and effective ,but I want to start with the strongest most effective thing that does not contain mercury or very strong steroids and that will give extreme lightening results, since I'm trying to lighten my entire body including my face.When I was a baby I was a very light olive like Jessica Alba and when I was a little girl I was light brown skin,but due to a lot of sun exposure and a really bad sun burn when I was 11 ,I am no longer as light as I was. Right now I am actress Essence Atkins complexion(if you ignore the bad dark marks Bio Claire left on my upper body and face! ) I want to get to Rihanna or Nicole Szerzinger or Jessica Szhor complexion. Please Help!! Any advice from people with experience in having extreme or very good results would be great because there are so many products out there that I don't know where to start. And also I never heard anyone comment on these products: Clear Quick,Clear Essence,Clear-N-Smooth,Easy White Paris,Immediate Claire,SH-18,Sure White,Xtreme Brite or whatever else. Sorry for the long list,lol.

You don't have to worry, as the potential products that you are considering are mercury and steroid-free.

About the Clear Quick, Clear Essence,Clear-N-Smooth, Easy White Paris, Immediate Claire, SH-18, Sure White, and Xtreme Brite. I have heard of the Xtreme Brite and Sure White, although I know little about them and how well they will lighten. All of the rest there I never heard of. If you list the ingredient list of one of the brands you are considering, I can try and then give you my thought about it.

Ok thanks I'm on my phone because my computer is broke lol but I will just try them out and report back lol

Sounds good. Keep us updated

I had read somewhere yesterday, that some Rosance types may say it has Arbutin but actually has as high as 12% Hydroquinone, they have a way to hide it so it doesn't turn brown now using Magnesiumsilicate or something like that. But I can't find the link.

I would love to find the strongest product out there! Today I went and bought Othine 3% Hydroquinone and put it all over me. I look a little redder lets see tomorrow!

Yes I will definitely report back. Despite what some people may think I'm not that scared of hydroquione and I don't thinks it's really bad because if it was, why would dermatologist even prescribe it for some people?

Also I heard that if you use hydroquione 3-4 months and take breaks in between ,it shouldn't cause any harm so I am definitely not worried snout

Lol my bad I meant about my phone messed up lol. But yeah I just have to remember to use sunblock and everything should be okay. Thanks everyone I would be lost without askmehelpdesk lol

Why is it going to be banned then (Like rest of world), Unless you have prescription?

I don't know ,that's a good question,lol. I think they did that because some people were getting carried away with how long they were using hydroquione. I think that if you take breaks, use sunblock and don't stay in the sun a lot, you should be okay. I also think that you should not use it everyday for the rest of your life. I plan to just use different products until I get my desired results and then exfoliate and make my own high dose skin lightening lotion using natural lighteners in order to maintain.

Yes natural is best way to go, green :)

(Hydroquinone is synthetic, industrial)

Yeah lol but for now in order to get the results I want I don't mind using hydroquione.Then once I get my desired results I will go green. LOL

I don't know ,that's a good question,lol. I think they did that because some people were getting carried away with how long they were using hydroquione. I think that if you take breaks, use sunblock and don't stay in the sun a lot, you should be okay. I also think that you should not use it everyday for the rest of your life. I plan to just use different products until I get my desired results and then exfoliate and make my own high dose skin lightening lotion using natural lighteners in order to maintain.

Hey Redbone, can you share me your lightening lotion recipe?

Sure when I make it lol. First I have to find out which ingredients are okay to mix together because some actives shouldn't be used in the same mixture and then I have to get some ph strips and learn how to make an effective mixture. Then I have to mix it and test it to see what results I get. I will definitely post the recipe on here once I come up with an effective good recipe.

Test strips? That sounds incredibly complicated?

I am very sure that I can figure it out and I heard someone say something about needing ph strips and melting the sepi white before you add it to a base or any kind of mixture.But just imagine if you take a bunch of natural skin lightening actives that can be mixed together and combine them in a cream or lotion. That would be a very effective mixture depending on how high of a dose each active is when you add it to the mixture. Like I saw I have a lot of work to do before I put up a recipe ,but I will definitely make sure to post it on here once I come up with an effective mixture.

Ph strips are not so complicated. When making a batch the ph must be similar to our skin's ph, which is between a 4.5 - 6 (slightly acidic). This will help with absorption and to help kill off bacteria. With sepiwhite you can use either a double boiler or a glass beaker and a pan (for boiling water). Once melted and reaches 180-185F, the finished product should have a pH of <5 or >6.2. You can adjust the ph by adding citric acid, lactic acid, Triethanolamine, and/or a few of the ph adjusters.

Wow you goils r practically chemists! :)

LOL , Well... I do hope to get into the medical field once I start college next year. Thanks golden_girl, I knew that using ph strips in order to create my skin lightening stuff couldn't be that hard!! So now all I have to do is start my plann. My plann is to basically start by using facial peels,body peels,and whatever else to exfoliate ,while incorporating cheap skin lighteners that are proven to be strong and effective. There is a new thread about RosanceX18 and in some old theads a lot of people said that it was very effective. So I am thinking that RosanceX18 will be the first cheap skin lightener I try for a certain period. Then once I get close to my "dream complexion" by exfoliating,using sunblock, and cheap and very strong skin lightening products... I will then move on to the next step in my entire skin lightening plann. This step includes using as many natural skin lightening actives as I can in order to create my own lotions,creams,and maybe even soaps. I would then start testing them on myself in order to come up with something that is very effective. If I make sure that the skin lightening actives interact okay and that each skin lightening active is at its highest safe dose before adding it to whatever base ,then everything should turn out great!! If my recipe does work(hopefully it will work)because... I would then of course post it on here to share with everyone! I hope my plann works out ,I will definitely be letting everyone know everything I do starting step 1 of my plann. Sorry I wrote so much!! It's just that I could go on forever about a topic such as skin lightening! LOL I'm so exited and can't wait until I start my plann ,which will hopefully work!!

That's great Redbone, your plan is more detailed than mine! I would like to learn more about RosanceX18.

Im getting dizzy in here with all these diff't products being listed!

Or maybe its all the skin bleach I just slathered on too

:D

It maybe the skin bleach... lol

But it's best to try it for yourself and see if it works for you. If it does and it's safe, then stick with it. No need to try everything on the market.

The reason why I said that I am going to alternate between cheap skin lightening products is because most people on these threads have mentioned how after using a certain product throughout a certain period ,the product would become immune to their skin and stop giving a lightening effect.So I figured that I would have a better semi-permanent outcome, if I use one product at a time until the product that I was initially using becomes immune to my skin. So that's my back up plann is that ever happens.

Let us know how it go RedBone, when I was lightening with the makari I was able to lighten very well but not to the point of reaching my goal. And I kept trying for an additional 3 months in hopes to reach another shade and a 1/2 or 2 shades. I never tried what you mentioned. But, I know some others have done this with much success.

I think I have come to realize, none of these products are strong! I am going to mix them all up then slather them all over my face and arms! :)

I think I have come to realize, none of these products are strong!! I am going to mix em all up then slather them all over my face and arms! :)

Maybe it'll work and maybe due to mixing them together they might become an ineffective batch of crème, as some ingredients lessen the effects of others. Then if that happens, it will be a waste of money and time.

Maybe it'll work and maybe due to mixing them together they might become an ineffective batch of creme, as some ingredients lessen the effects of others. Then if that happens, it will be a waste of money and time.


Oh yeahh. Then I will make sure to get strong stuff like Tretinoin .1&#37; that way it can be diluted and still end up .5% or .25% or so. Ditto for arbutin well ideally I would use raw arbutin.

I tried to use raw turmeric but it looks like curry paste in yogurt(cream) and stained palms so bad!

Hi, All!

Has the question posted by the original poster been answered sufficiently enough?

Just curious here...

Thanks!

Hi Clough!

Hey I recognize u from the Gardening/Plants section!

:)

I'm all over the site, Golden_Boy!

And, I do moderate many sections of this site.

Thanks!

Oh, that's awesome man!

Quite the expert!

:)

So, did you answer my question that I asked in post #28, Golden_Boy?

I would appreciate it if you did that!

Thanks!

Oh I thought you said hi to all but that you were asking the OP of the Question,, sorry!

Yeah in my opinion as a responder I think so.

But what do I know I'm a newbie of maybe a week here or so.

... How do you even answer this question? Everyone's skin is different...

You can get HQ as low as 0.5% or as high as 99%... so who's to say what is strong and what isn't? Some people consider 4% strong while others need 6%-10%...

A lot of people here swear by Bio Claire... I think its crap and a waste of money because it didn't work for me.


There's really no definitive answer to this question...

Hmmm I see what you mean maybe I should have put instead... What are the best skin lightening products that you ever used? But oh well... its too late to do that now.. LOL

I swear that Bio Claire is crap too.

I agree with Dessaml, what some may consider as strong, others may consider it differently. All trial and error. Dessaml is that you in the avatar?

Well, how would you guys categorize these products from strongest to weakest and which ones have you tried and experience lightening from, as it would be great to add more effective products to our list as mentioned from Redbone:

1. Clear Quick
2. Clear Essence
3. Clear-N-Smooth
4. Easy White Paris
5. Immediate Claire
6. SH-18
7. Sure White
8. Xtreme Brite

There are a zillion of those products sold in beauty stores, some in very big bottles I heard most that say made in Switzerland or Suisse is just an inside trade name for crap really made in China if they say Arbutin they mean Hq, etc... Sure White, Betavate, Rosance, etc. Not sure though, there's no evidence.

I swear that Bio Claire is crap too.

I agree with Dessaml, what some may consider as strong, others may consider it differently. All trial and error. Dessaml is that you in the avatar?

Well, how would you guys categorize these products from strongest to weakest and which ones have you tried and experience lightening from, as it would be great to add more effective products to our list as mentioned from Redbone:

1. Clear Quick
2. Clear Essence
3. Clear-N-Smooth
4. Easy White Paris
5. Immediate Claire
6. SH-18
7. Sure White
8. Xtreme Brite

How is SH-18? I wanted to try the caviar lightening cream

I don't know, I was wondering the same thing. I'm searching for the ingredients.

For the SH 18, their main active ingredient is 2% hq as their lightener... hmmm, doesn't sound too potent. I would prefer getting the generic hq 4%/tret and lighten twice as fast:

SH18 CAVIAR LIGHTENING LOTION
Active Ingredients: Hydroquinone 2%, Caviar Extract 0.55%: good moisturizer, not a lightener though)

SH18 suisse SKIN LIGHTENING BODY LOTION
Active Ingredients: 2% Hydroquinone, Octyl dimetyl PABA (0.5%): a sunscreen, Vitamin E (0.1%)

SH18 Cocoa butter Lotion
Active Ingredients: Cocoa Butter 2%, Hydroquinone 2%, Vitamin E 0.1%


Has anyone tried this? To me 15-20 bucks for 2% hq doesn't do it justice, better off getting the hq 4% for 15.

For the SH 18, their main active ingredient is 2% hq as their lightener...hmmm, doesn't sound too potent. I would prefer getting the generic hq 4%/tret and lighten twice as fast:

SH18 CAVIAR LIGHTENING LOTION
Active Ingredients: Hydroquinone 2%, Caviar Extract 0.55%: good moisturizer, not a lightener though)

SH18 suisse SKIN LIGHTENING BODY LOTION
Active Ingredients: 2% Hydroquinone, Octyl dimetyl PABA (0.5%): a sunscreen, Vitamin E (0.1%)

SH18 Cocoa butter Lotion
Active Ingredients: Cocoa Butter 2%, Hydroquinone 2%, Vitamin E 0.1%


Has anyone tried this? To me 15-20 bucks for 2% hq doesn't do it justice, better off getting the hq 4% for 15.

More like 25 when you add shipping haha!

Oh my! I forgot the s&h..

oh my! I forgot the s&h..

Golden_Girl I found another really good site! The HQ is still 4% but cheaper! Shipping is still high though, I think for the HQ and shipping it would be like 15-16 dollars. They got tretenoin too and whole lotta other stuff!

Cool, pm it to me please. It seems like it's best to get several at once so the shipping will then add up to be less, more for your buck.
I'm trying to decide since I'll be ordering later on today and a bit indecisive.

cool, pm it to me please. it seems like it's best to get several at once so the shipping will then add up to be less, more for your buck.
I'm trying to decide since I'll be ordering later on today and a bit indecisive.

Ahhh damn, I lied... I had two things in my basket so I thought the shipping cost of 25.00 would be divided in half, 12.50 per item... I took an item out to make sure and it's a flat 25.00...


But this might be more cost effective if you order mutiple things as opposed to the other sites that charge per item. Decisions, decions...

Oh well, I'll PM it to you anyways;)

25.00 for shipping, I guess it's good when ordering in large bulk sizes. I'm not ready to order in bulk yet, just want to try small first.

25.00 for shipping, I guess it's good when ordering in large bulk sizes. I'm not ready to order in bulk yet, just want to try small first.

That's how I buy, one tube at a time of Retin A.
$15 + $3 shipping, HQ is the same price.
If I were to buy in bulk I go for the other buying option.
I don't need that many tubes at once.

There are a zillion of those products sold in beauty stores, some in very big bottles I heard most that say made in Switzerland or Suisse is just an inside trade name for crap really made in China if they say Arbutin they mean Hq, etc... Sure White, Betavate, Rosance, etc. Not sure though, theres no evidence.

You know you just described Makari? LOL
In a YouTube video they call it Makari de Suisse saying it's made in Switzerland. Lol

What's up with saying something was made there anyway?
If something is made in Switzerland what it that suppose to prove?
Are they known for making innovative beauty products?

That's how I buy, one tube at a time of Retin A.
$15 + $3 shipping, HQ is the same price.
If I were to buy in bulk I go for the other buying option.
I don't need that many tubes at once.

Where do you buy your Retin A? Mine is like 9 dollars and something anf 10 for shipping.

That's how I buy, one tube at a time of Retin A.
$15 + $3 shipping, HQ is the same price.
If I were to buy in bulk I go for the other buying option.
I don't need that many tubes at once.

Nikki I want to know too where the shipping is $3, that's really good.

With the Makari it waqs a bit confusing for me of the origin. Because at first I thought they were produced in NY, then for some reason I thought Canada, then France, and lastly Switzerland. I guess it's to sound exotic or something, it still could be made in the process but state it's in a different country in order to overcharge.

where do you buy your Retin A? Mine is like 9 dollars and something anf 10 for shipping.

;)