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sophieboo1
Oct 3, 2009, 08:35 AM
k, my question is do I have to pay any child support to a child that my boyfriend had with an ex girlfriend? Me and my boyfriend have a 4 month old together and his ex thinks that my sons child tax half should go to her son, I just need to know if I am at all legally responsible for my bf's child even if he does not have a job and was served his court papers for child support and is dealing with that right now... is it OK for her to be hounding me for extra monies??

stinawords
Oct 3, 2009, 09:22 AM
You are in no way responsible for paying her child support. You said your boyfriend was served with support papers does that mean that there is an order in place or they are just now going to court over it? If there is an order in place he owed whatever the order states and any tax return HE should get could be intercepted (if he is in arrears) and paid to her. But as far as you personally paying it you are not responsible for it.

sophieboo1
Oct 3, 2009, 09:37 AM
K thank you, I didn't think that I had any responsibility what so ever but she seems to think that I do cause me and my boyfriend live together... and he has been to 2 court dates now, they have to find her for phone conference before they can rule because she is in another town and they haven't been able to get a hold of her yet, so my boyfriend is doing what he has to do so far, but I just needed to know if in anyway I have to give anything( I didn't think so but) have to be sure and especially that my child tax( baby bonus) cause she says half is my bf's cause we share a child but that in no way makes sense that half should go to her son child tax goes to help my child she gets her own... anyways thanks for answering my question

ScottGem
Oct 3, 2009, 10:26 AM
Did you and your boyfriend file a joint return? If so, then, if he is in arrears, they can seize the entire refund.

However, if you filed a separate return and keep your money separate from his (which I strongly recommend doing) then they can't touch your income or assets.

twinkiedooter
Oct 3, 2009, 10:46 AM
Her kid with the boyfriend has absolutely nothing to do with the kid you and your boyfriend have together. She's just blowing smoke at you. Only if you and the boyfriend file a joint return can she even begin to collect any of your tax refund. If you don't file a joint return, then the tax refund is all yours. And as Scott pointed out, be sure to have separate checking accounts just in case she does try to go after him then you are not affected legally by her actions against him.

sophieboo1
Oct 3, 2009, 10:57 AM
yes he filed with her the last time, but I was not talking about our taxes I am talking about baby bonus... she thinks she is owed some cause I get a check for my son but I don't she isn't entitled to anything I have. But on the whole income tax return thing can I still file single or nop? I know I claim my son but I have to see how I'm suppose to do that this year, cause honestly she's not getting anything from me!! I will help buy him b-day x-mas presents but no support other than that from me, she brags she has all this money to take him places and see shows and stuff so money I have supportsd my son and mine alone, until the day mt boyfriend is granted visitation which he asked for by the court so when he is in my care I will pay for things for him.

ScottGem
Oct 3, 2009, 11:10 AM
What is a "baby bonus"? This is not a general term so may be specific to your location. Without knowing what it is and why its given its hard to answer.

sophieboo1
Oct 3, 2009, 11:14 AM
A baby bonus is money you get per child a month to help with things you need, I am in ontario plus there is a bonus universal child tax you get until your child is 6 yrs old, but the baby bonus you receive like $376 per month till the child is 18 yrs of age

ScottGem
Oct 3, 2009, 12:37 PM
First, this is not Iming or Texting. We do not allow text speak here. Please type in full words and sentences.

If the baby bonus is public assistance for a child, then it belongs to that specific child. Unless the amount being paid is for both children, then the mother of his child is not entitled to anything being paid you for your child.

However, reading more about this benefit, it has to be based on FAMILY income (if you live together), not just yours. So there may be some issues since he has two families.

Now, I'm also going to get on a soapbox here. I'm wondering why you had a child when you can't afford to raise it? The "baby bonus" is for low income families to make sure the child can be taken care of.

Oh, and the bonus is paid only as long as you qualify. Its reviewed each year to make sure you qualify. Hopefully you and your boy friend are working towards getting good jobs so you won't be a burden on the Canadian taxpayers.

sophieboo1
Oct 3, 2009, 03:09 PM
Weather I work or not I will still get the child tax, I have a job and I'm not sure exactly how much money I would have to make to not get a child tax, so I can afford my child thanks I have a frind that makes good money and she still gets it, so I'm not sure exactly the amount which is not low income...

sophieboo1
Oct 3, 2009, 03:11 PM
Text talk that has nothing to do with my question does it matter that much

ScottGem
Oct 3, 2009, 03:50 PM
weather i work or not i will still get the child tax, i have a job and im not sure exactly how much money i would have to make to not get a child tax, so i can afford my child thanks i have a frind that makes good money and she still gets it, so im not sure exactly the amount which is not low income...

According to the research I did, the credit is reviewed annually. The income limits also change annually. What you may think is "good money" is still below income limits.

But what your post suggests is that you are willing to be a burden on the taxpayer and have no shame in doing so.


text talk that has nothing to do with my question does it matter that much

No, it has nothing to do with your question, but has everything toi do with the rules of this site. It has has a good deal to do with people's impression of you. If you can't write in decent english, then it does not reflect on you or the Canadian school system.

sophieboo1
Oct 3, 2009, 04:19 PM
Well I do the best I can with my job it's what's here and my son has everything he needs it may be below standards but it's what w ehave, we all can't be doctors or lawyers and such I am not a burden on taxpayers, not like I'm living odd welfare I have a job I support my family. Sorry if I broke the rules of the site with my "text" type sometimes I just write it and not realize it, I did go to school

sophieboo1
Oct 3, 2009, 04:21 PM
And my question was not at all about the money I make, or weather you think I'm a burden on taxpayers which is a very ignorant thing to say I think. It's sad by you're either rich or you're poor in this society and unfortunately I fall in the later but I do what I can to support my son he has what he needs and I make sure he does

ScottGem
Oct 3, 2009, 04:47 PM
i am not a burden on taxpayers, not like im living odd welfare

Excuse me? Are you that dense? Where do you think the money comes from? It comes from the Canadian government, right? And where does the government get their money? From the taxpayers, of course. It doesn't matter whether (not weather) you call it a Baby Bonus or whatever, its still government assistance.

And no, not everyone is a doctor or lawyer. The majority of people are middle class who don't have a baby if they can't afford it. They also don't apply for public assistance unless necessary. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you shouldn't apply or accept the money. But I am saying you should not have gotten pregnant if you couldn't afford to support the child on your own.

Look, you got your question answered. I suggest you let it go at that. You just keeping digging yourself into a deeper hole.

stinawords
Oct 3, 2009, 05:02 PM
It's true that the "baby bonus" is a form of welfare. That being said, I hope you continue your education or do whatever you need to do to be able to provide for your child and that your boyfriend also gets a good paying job so that he can pay for both of his children because while you only have one child to think about supporting and making sure he has everything he needs to grow up healthy he has two. A tax credit is something completely different from a monthly payment for the low income families.

sophieboo1
Oct 3, 2009, 05:02 PM
I suggust you should quit judging me yes I know it's government and yes taxpayers pay it I'm not dense!! All I'm saying is that I have a job I can afford my child and why not take the money that is given to everyone that has a child, so because I'm a lower class doesn't give me the right to have a baby(family)??
And yes I did get my question answered I'm not digging myself into a hole I just don't appreciate someone judging me when you are here to give advice and I asked for advice not to be judged, I get that I'm in a "lower class" than a lot of people or maybe you, maybe you are better than me , so be it. So in that case are you saying I shouldn't except the health care that is provided for canadians either?

stinawords
Oct 3, 2009, 05:04 PM
Of course you should accpt the healthcare. You can think whatever you want about us. You came here for free advice if you don't like it then go pay your own lawyer and ask him/her not to judge you.

sophieboo1
Oct 3, 2009, 05:05 PM
Stina, yes he has two children he is currently going to court to arrange child support payments so we just have to wait for that to happen, all I was saying to the other guy was not to judge me because I get a child tax as does everyone else you know?

sophieboo1
Oct 3, 2009, 05:07 PM
You u guys are s!! Some advice u give no wonder it's free!!

sophieboo1
Oct 3, 2009, 05:12 PM
You guys aren't very professional that's all I have to say but thank you for answering my question anyway have a good night!!

stinawords
Oct 3, 2009, 05:15 PM
So absolutley everyone else get's the "baby bonus"? Even the doctors and lawyers? Or is part of their taxes (as well as other non lower class families) going to pay for the "baby bonus"? Scott wasn't telling you not to use a tax credit... as I said a tax credit is completely different than a form of welfare. I stick to my answer that I'm glad you are working and I hope you continue to grow with your family and get to a point that you don't need the extra help from the government. I'm not saying that because I am condeming you for needing it but I really don't want you to be one of the many, many others that gets on the cycle of having an entire family always receiving some sort of welfare. Trust me it actually feels good to be able to work for your money and pay for everything yourself. I'm glad you are working but you may as well get used to people judging you people make judgements about others all the time it only takes three seconds for an entire first impression of someone to be formed so make those three seconds count!

ScottGem
Oct 3, 2009, 05:21 PM
i suggust you should quit judging me yes i know it's government and yes taxpayers pay it im not dense!!!! all im saying is that i have a job i can afford my child and why not take the money that is given to everyone that has a child, so because im a lower class doesn't give me the right to have a baby(family)???
and yes i did get my question answered im not digging myself into a hole i just don't appreciate someone judging me when you are here to give advice and i asked for advice not to be judged, i get that im in a "lower class" than alot of people or maybe you, maybe you are better than me , so be it. so in that case are you saying i shouldn't except the health care that is provided for canadians either?!

First, when you post a question on a site like this you take the risk of being judged.

Second, try reading your own posts. You stated that you weren't being a burden on the taxpayer. Why would you say that if you understood that taxpayers were footing the bill for this.

Third, no this money is NOT paid to everyone who has a child. Its only paid to people who's income is below a certain level. I already said that I wasn't saying you shouldn't take the money.

But I also answered this question; "so because im a lower class doesn't give me the right to have a baby(family)???" I don't believe you do have the right to have a baby if you can't support that baby on your own. After I was MARRIED, we waited until we could afford to support a child before having one.

Finally, yes, you do keep digging yourself into a hole.

sophieboo1
Oct 3, 2009, 05:21 PM
If I knew doctors or lawyers on a personal level I could answer that for you, I don't know all I was saying is that it is something we get even if we work. It is something that is for "my son" and is put away for him maybe a college fund you know stuff I didn't have when I was a kid so the money I make pays my bills.
My first impression was fine but when I start getting judged because I'm a "lower class" than someone I do not like it and yes I get defensive.

sophieboo1
Oct 3, 2009, 05:22 PM
When you have a baby here the forms are already at your bedside when you get there so it's not like we seek the baby bonus checks

sophieboo1
Oct 3, 2009, 05:25 PM
Scott, yes i can support my child i have said before i have a job, but everyone gets the rights to a baby bonus, yes i might be lower class, so be it! And my income might not be up to par but that's where im at and i just live from what i am paid.

stinawords
Oct 3, 2009, 05:28 PM
You get defensive the same way we do I see how much of my money is paying for other peoples children... just as you were not wanting to share money with your boyfriends ex. It's really the same concept except we don't have a chioce whether we want to share. Unless of course I want to quit or get a lesser paying job (for which I wouldn't have had to work so very hard for) and also receive government benefits. So, yes I do actually understand where you are coming from not wanting to see your money being used on someone else's child. I have children of my own as well yes, I do know how expensive they are.

sophieboo1
Oct 3, 2009, 05:28 PM
I'm not digging anything, what will happen to me? All I'm doing is defending myself and family from you "prefessional" people

ScottGem
Oct 3, 2009, 05:28 PM
all i was saying is that it is something we get even if we work. It is something that is for "my son" and is put away for him maybe a college fund ya know stuff i didn't have when i was a kid so the money i make pays my bills.
my first impression was fine but when i start getting judged because im a "lower class" than someone i do not like it and yes i get defensive.

Again, I researched this and this is paid ONLY to people who qualify with a below limit income.

You were not judged because you are lower class. In fact, I never characterized you that way. I judged you for having a child when previous posts indicated you couldn't afford one. However, this last post indicates that maybe you don't need the money to support the child, but rather you have applied for it just because you are entitled to it.

sophieboo1
Oct 3, 2009, 05:34 PM
K now I'm done talking about this, I only asked if any of my sons money could go to my bf's other son because his ex wanted it--that's it, so I am done talking to you people. And yes I feel I was being judged because I am lower class, yes maybe I didn't go to college to get a "high paying" job I didn't have those options growing up so I did what I could and now I have a job and it gets me what I need, I might not live a very extravigant life but I am happy with my family we have love and what we need and a roof over our heads and that's all I ask for... so thanks for the "advice"
And yes I am entitled to it so I take it, and I also pay taxes money comes off or my checks I work for too, so I'm not exactly sure what we are talking about anymore, it's a baby bonus I work I'm not "living off the government"

stinawords
Oct 3, 2009, 05:43 PM
The difference is that a "baby bonus" is not for everyone as you said it was. It is only for those that can't afford their children by themselves. So you are saying that if you didn't have to pay taxes you would not be eleigable for the baby bonus that you are now because you pay taxes. Here is the difference (I'm an accountant I would know) everyone gets a tax credit that has a child, however only those below a certain income level receive extra money each month which comes from the taxes that the "richer" people pay. Money that let's face it they worked hard to get. I didn't say you were LIVING off the government but the baby bonus is still a form of welfare. There are many forms of welfare you may not be eleigable for all of them but you are for that one. No one was saying don't take it because your child has a greater chance of success if you do. But don't go off on some tangent about how you shouldn't be judged just becaue you don't make as much money as others. I hope someone else will learn from this post because you still haven't seemed to grasp our responses. You don't need to say over and over that you are done with this site either... all you have to do is not reply and/or not come back.

Fr_Chuck
Oct 3, 2009, 06:08 PM
Beat to death, closed