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paraclete
Sep 14, 2009, 07:12 PM
WE HAVE ALL SEEN THE PANIC ABOUT H1N1 IN THE PAST YEAR

Well here's something to really get worried about. H1N1 only killed about 5%, this one kills 80%
New virus from rats can kill 80 per cent of human victims (http://www.smh.com.au/world/science/new-virus-from-rats-can-kill-80-per-cent-of-human-victims-20090914-fnxj.html)

So instead of getting all shook up about H1N1, prevention is in our hands, start killing rats now and don't stop until you have eradicated them, otherwise they will eradicate you. It starts with restricting travel from South Africa, but to be sure let's include all of Africa.

lshadylady
Sep 14, 2009, 10:30 PM
Paraclete;
I have an excellent article on the Bubonic plagues,(speaking of rats) and I have
Read other article about the plague.After the Major Pandemic in the 14th Century, Europe was devastated, Gunpowder was invented, and life got so hard the average lifespan of man dropped to around 20 years old.

We still have that last outbreak with us. About 10 to 20 people die of the disease every year in the US, more in other countries.

What worries me is the fact that it may not have been the rats that carried the disease but the fleas. We need to make sure we kill all the fleas too. But even worse is the increase in bedbugs being brought home to our families by the traveling members of the family. They carry diseases too. God only knows where those bedbugs were last. Sick people go to bed and when there are no longer any people in that bed, they leave to find another warm body to get fluid from. In return, they leave behind the bacteria that cause diseases. Kill the rats! But kill the insects, especially fleas and bedbugs too!

paraclete
Sep 15, 2009, 01:11 AM
Paraclete;
I have an excellent article on the Bubonic plagues,(speaking of rats) and I have
read other article about the plague.After the Major Pandemic in the 14th Century, Europe was devastated, Gunpowder was invented, and life got so hard the average lifespan of man dropped to around 20 years old.

We still have that last outbreak with us. About 10 to 20 people die of the disease every year in the US, more in other countries.

What worries me is the fact that it may not have been the rats that carried the disease but the fleas. We need to make sure we kill all the fleas too. But even worse is the increase in bedbugs being brought home to our families by the traveling members of the family. They carry diseases too. God only knows where those bedbugs were last. Sick people go to bed and when there are no longer any people in that bed, they leave to find another warm body to get fluid from. In return, they leave behind the bacteria that cause diseases. Kill the rats! But kill the insects, especially fleas and bedbugs too!!
Hey I'm with you there are a lot of carriers that we put up with because we don't know enough about them. Sorry to here you still have bubonic plague in the US. We don't get that here but Ross River fever is fairly deadly.

I am aware of what Bubonic Plague did in the 7th and 14th centuries, They didn't call it the dark ages for nothing we are about due for another round, so we had better get busy

tomder55
Sep 15, 2009, 04:02 AM
The cases of plague in the US are few and scattered .But generally they are most common in the southwestern states, particularly New Mexico and Arizona.

I'll leave it to you to connect it the op theme.

inthebox
Sep 15, 2009, 05:54 AM
Bubonic plague Yersinia pestis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yersinia_pestis) is a bacteria, easily treatable these days. Influenza is a virus
CDC H1N1 Flu | Updated Interim Recommendations for the Use of Antiviral Medications in the Treatment and Prevention of Influenza for the 2009-2010 Season (http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/recommendations.htm) that they really have to watch carefully for Tamiflu resistance.



G&P


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http://www.cdc.gov/NCIDOD/DISEASES/HANTA/hps/noframes/FAQ.htm


Years back, I remember an illlness in the 4 corners area that had an exceedingly high kill rate, even among the young and healthy - it was HAntavirus, they have recommendations for how to deal with this.

firmbeliever
Sep 15, 2009, 10:06 AM
What worries me is the fact that it may not have been the rats that carried the disease but the fleas. We need to make sure we kill all the fleas too. But even worse is the increase in bedbugs being brought home to our families by the traveling members of the family. They carry diseases too. God only knows where those bedbugs were last. Sick people go to bed and when there are no longer any people in that bed, they leave to find another warm body to get fluid from. In return, they leave behind the bacteria that cause diseases. Kill the rats! But kill the insects, especially fleas and bedbugs too!!

Talking about bedbugs, it is rare to see bedbugs these days,but recently someone close to me had her apartment infested by bed bugs and they had to move out, no choice.

I have also noticed that they seem to travel in reams of cloth, hiding under the folds and no one realizes they are hiding in there.

I think fleas travel with exotic pets too.

paraclete
Sep 15, 2009, 01:45 PM
Talking about bedbugs, it is rare to see bedbugs these days,but recently someone close to me had her apartment infested by bed bugs and they had to move out, no choice.

I have also noticed that they seem to travel in reams of cloth, hiding under the folds and no one realizes they are hiding in there.

I think fleas travel with exotic pets too.

Not sure what you mean by bed bugs, dust mites are with us all the time but you will seldom see them. Fleas travel on most animals and are common to dogs and cats as well as many hosts

excon
Sep 15, 2009, 01:59 PM
Hello clete:

I think it's a communist plot.

excon

ETWolverine
Sep 15, 2009, 02:27 PM
Hello clete:

I think it's a communist plot.

excon

You think everything is a communist plot.

Oh... no... wait... that's me.

Sorry. :o

Elliot

paraclete
Sep 15, 2009, 02:36 PM
Hello clete:

I think it's a communist plot.

excon

Undoubtedly, all those pinko, cohabiting, liberals breeding them in dark places ready to be unleashed on an unsuspecting United States

twinkiedooter
Sep 15, 2009, 02:44 PM
Paraclete -Why don't you read the ebook in my signature and see just what really causes the swine flu? Hmmmm? It's the vaccine and the vaccination that causes this. You just might learn some very interesting facts about this particular subject.

firmbeliever
Sep 15, 2009, 03:52 PM
Not sure what you mean by bed bugs, dust mites are with us all the time but you will seldom see them. Fleas travel on most animals and are common to dogs and cats as well as many hosts

bed bugs - Google Images (http://images.google.mv/images?q=bed%20bugs&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi)
Bed bugs you can see and feel them bite,though they mostly stay hidden.

I know fleas,they travel cross countries through pets that are brought in.

paraclete
Sep 15, 2009, 08:03 PM
Paraclete -Why don't you read the ebook in my signature and see just what really causes the swine flu? Hmmmm? It's the vaccine and the vaccination that causes this. You just might learn some very interesting facts about this particular subject.

Nothing like a good conspiracy theory is there? And this is nothing like it.

Aweful lot of sour grapes in there. I don't have a lot of use for modern medicine, too many which doctors, (which drug will I prescribe next?), however, most are trying to help within their limited ability