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ChihuahuaMomma
Sep 11, 2009, 12:17 AM
Ok, I know this will sound weird. But what is the test called that they give to someone to establish if they're crazy. Or psycho.
Clough
Sep 11, 2009, 12:26 AM
Hi, Momma!
Do you mean like when someone goes to see a psychologist or psychiatrist?
Thanks!
ChihuahuaMomma
Sep 11, 2009, 12:39 AM
I don't know. It's the test where they diagnose you as crazy.
Clough
Sep 11, 2009, 01:29 AM
Hi again, Momma!
The first thing that came to my mind was the Rorschach Test.
Rorschach test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_test)
But, I do think that there are a number of other tests that a person could take now to determine any number of mental dysfunctions/conditions in an individual.
Also, crazy or psycho aren't terms that would officially be used for a designation as to the mental condition of an individual. Mental illness can involve many factors for which there are many designations and hence symptoms and descriptions for them.
Specifically, what are you trying to find out, please?
Thanks!
ChihuahuaMomma
Sep 11, 2009, 01:37 AM
I know they aren't medical terms. I'm tired and brain farting right now. I work with developmentally disabled adults. Psychological test was the term I was thinking of.
Clough
Sep 11, 2009, 01:44 AM
I know they aren't medical terms. I'm tired and brain farting right now. I work with developmentally disabled adults. psychological test was the term I was thinking of.
So, have you come up with the answer to your question?
Thanks!
redhed35
Sep 11, 2009, 02:37 AM
I know they aren't medical terms. I'm tired and brain farting right now. I work with developmentally disabled adults. psychological test was the term I was thinking of.
Hey chihuahuamomma,I also work with disabled adults,who vary in disability,from brain injurys at birth and accidents.
Its quite a difficult field and for my I find it mentally exhausting sometimes.
However,however the adults I work with have a team of people behind them..
I recently did a non violent crisis intervention course,and find it invalable working with some of the behaviour challenges I encounter each day.
I have gone off on a tangent here... if this is work related most of the adults will have been assessed by the age of 18.
Due to the delicate nature of mental disability we are sometimes not privy to their files,only if they are a risk to the staff and other service users.
ChihuahuaMomma
Sep 11, 2009, 01:27 PM
No, this has to do with something completely different, a blog I was actually writing. THank you. It's great to hear from other people in the same field. I know that some areas you are not able to know their entire background unless it applicable to your job functions. But honestly I believe their WHOLE history is applicable. Fortunately, we know everything there is to know about their pasts... and it really does help. I mean a lot of the time things that happened in their childhood are reasons for their behaviors in the present, and that's imparitive to know.
firmbeliever
Sep 11, 2009, 01:36 PM
Here is an online sample of maybe something similar to what you are looking for.
Personality Disorder Test - Personality Test (http://www.4degreez.com/misc/personality_disorder_test.mv)
redhed35
Sep 11, 2009, 01:41 PM
I agree with you,for example,if you were trying to talk someone down and just simply closed the door for privacy,and because of a tramatic childhood experience of being locked into rooms the service user totally loses control.
Had you known the revelant history you would use a different approach.
In saying that the defining line between the service users private history and the carer or trainer is very blurred.
I was interested in your question,is there one defining test that would conclude mental illness,and asked in work.
The answer was,no.
There are often a battery of tests and sessions before anyone is 'labled' with a mental illness.
Sometimes people have a breakdown and recover,but one episode does not mean mental illness.
Even in 2009,there is still a stigma attached to mental illness.
ChihuahuaMomma
Sep 11, 2009, 01:47 PM
I know that. Again the question had nothing to do with my job. If you go to my blog (My Cup Of Tea (http://www.cherishscupoftea.blogspot.com)) you'll see (the last post) why I asked.
So, where you are the people you take care of are called service users? We call our folks clients, basically the same thing. We're caregivers or our official title is ISS-Instructional Support Staff.
I understand. I have had clients that will NOT shower, I have to take baths cause in their childhoods they were hosed down for "misbehaving" or for whatever reason.
redhed35
Sep 11, 2009, 01:49 PM
If I may degress for a moment,in today's society we have many disorders that were never dreamt of 20 years ago,each with its own ingredients.. we are evolving not only in industry and science,but also in our mental illnesses and physical disabilitys.
artlady
Sep 11, 2009, 01:49 PM
Here is a link to the most conclusive test out there.Used very frequently.The MMPI.
From here you may be able to find an on line link.
Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Multiphasic_Personality_Inventory)
redhed35
Sep 11, 2009, 01:52 PM
I know that. Again the question had nothing to do with my job. If you go to my blog (My Cup Of Tea (http://www.cherishscupoftea.blogspot.com)) you'll see (the last post) why I asked.
So, where you are the people you take care of are called service users? We call our folks clients, basically the same thing. We're caregivers or our official title is ISS-Instructional Support Staff.
I understand. I have had clients that will NOT shower, I have to take baths cause in their childhoods they were hosed down for "misbehaving" or for whatever reason.
The term service users is the new 'pc' here in ireland. They range in age from 18 to 60,then retirement.
I work in the section where the service users all work in paid employment in the community.
I am going now to read your blog.
zippit
Sep 11, 2009, 02:28 PM
Would you agree that those in the field mental therapist,phychologist etc use these tests to pigeon hole anyone into believing that they need they're services
Like chiropracters they will tell ANYONE that they have a issue and they can help it
redhed35
Sep 11, 2009, 02:42 PM
would you agree that those in the field mental therapist,phychologist ect use these tests to pigeon hole anyone into believing that they need theyre services
like chiropracters they will tell ANYONE that they have a issue and they can help it
There is always someone who wants to make a buck somewhere,in the private sector perhaps this is the case,although most are policed in some form and need to keep records for 5 years.. although that depends on the country,the laws of the land and the sector.
In the public sector,including hospitals there is usually a team of people who hold meetings and cross reference with each other regarding mental health issues etc.
Sadly people fall through the net,some are abused and some die,for lack of the apprioate treatment or misdiagnosed.
Scientists are still discovering new things about the human brain and mind.
emily_godzilla
Sep 12, 2009, 08:44 PM
I know one exam performed right away in a lot of hospitals and stuff is called The Mental Status exam-if you Google that I am sure you will find a lot of info.
J_9
Sep 12, 2009, 08:51 PM
Ok, I know this will sound weird. But what is the test called that they give to someone to establish if they're crazy. Or psycho.
That question is so disturbing to me that my blood boils!! :mad:
Wish I could type in all caps right now! :mad:
No one is CrAZY... No one is PsYCHO!
Mental health is no different than physical health other than it is still unchartered territory. There is no way to get test the brain for chemical imbalances.
Now, if you want to know if someone has bipolar disorder or is schizophrenic, that is a subject I can deal with... but CRAZY? PSYCHO?! I'm sorry, but this is something near and dear to my heart and this is just like calling someone with a mental retardation a RETARD!!
ChihuahuaMomma
Sep 13, 2009, 12:19 PM
That question is so disturbing to me that my blood boils!!!:mad:
Wish I could type in all caps right now! :mad:
No one is CrAZY....No one is PsYCHO!!
Mental health is no different than physical health other than it is still unchartered territory. There is no way to get test the brain for chemical imbalances.
Now, if you want to know if someone has bipolar disorder or is schizophrenic, that is a subject I can deal with....but CRAZY? PSYCHO?!!! I'm sorry, but this is something near and dear to my heart and this is just like calling someone with a mental retardation a RETARD!!!
Like I said J_9 I had a brain fart and couldn't think of the term that I was looking for. And in case you haven't ever listened to anything I've said, this is a subject very near and dear to my heart as well. This was a subject brought up because I was writing a blog about an almost car accident I had and suggesting that the dmv run mental evaluations before issuing a driver's license. Thank you.
ChihuahuaMomma
Sep 13, 2009, 12:21 PM
would you agree that those in the field mental therapist,phychologist ect use these tests to pigeon hole anyone into believing that they need theyre services
like chiropracters they will tell ANYONE that they have a issue and they can help it
No, I would not agree with that. It happens, of course. Not everyone has a good moral compass. But for the most part I think that doctors (of any sort) can be trusted.
J_9
Sep 13, 2009, 12:55 PM
Sorry, Chi... I just go insane when I see that the mentally challenged are called names such as crazy and psycho.
ChihuahuaMomma
Sep 13, 2009, 12:57 PM
I was not calling names, at least that was not my intention. I was seriously having a brain fart, hence the question and it's form.
J_9
Sep 13, 2009, 12:59 PM
I was not calling names, at least that was not my intention. I was seriously having a brain fart, hence the question and it's form.
I have brain farts all the time Chi... no problem there. It has nothing to do with you, but any time I hear those terms I go nutso. ;)
ChihuahuaMomma
Sep 13, 2009, 01:11 PM
I have brain farts all the time Chi....no problem there. It has nothing to do with you, but any time I hear those terms I go nutso. ;)
I don't blame you, I do as well.
Clough
Sep 14, 2009, 12:27 AM
Here is a link to the most conclusive test out there.Used very frequently.The MMPI.
From here you may be able to find an on line link.
Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Multiphasic_Personality_Inventory)
Hi again, Momma!
I think that artlady has posted something that really is worth looking at!
Thanks!
JudyKayTee
Sep 14, 2009, 01:37 PM
Chi, you may want to change your blog, 5/5/08 entry - My Whimsical Musings (http://mywhimsicalmusings.blogspot.com/).
Tried to PM but didn't go through.
Clough
Sep 14, 2009, 07:23 PM
Hi again, Momma!
I can definitely see where J_9 is coming from with the way that she feels. I just figured and felt that when you first posted your question, you were looking for the type(s) of tests in order to come to a conclusion as to the level of mental stability that a person might be in. Such a thing is also called a diagnosis.
I also, truly don't like "labels" for people that can be based on only a person's casual opinion and not some form of facts based upon proven, diagnostic testing as well as the scientific research that would provide a foundation as to why findings were conclusive as they might be.
Thanks!
JudyKayTee
Sep 14, 2009, 08:56 PM
I also, truly don't like "labels" for people that can be based on only a person's casual opinion and not some form of facts based upon proven, diagnostic testing as well as the scientific research that would provide a foundation as to why findings were conclusive as they might be.
Thanks!
And I don't like slang labels such as crazy and retard (which absolutely inflames me) even if they are based on conclusive findings. There are terms which are acceptable and terms which are not - I don't think these words are acceptable.
ChihuahuaMomma
Sep 14, 2009, 11:27 PM
Chi, you may want to change your blog, 5/5/08 entry - My Whimsical Musings (http://mywhimsicalmusings.blogspot.com/).
Tried to PM but didn't go through.
That's a very old blog. I don't have the password to it anymore.