Someone should have told assemblyman Mike Duvall (R) it was open mic night. Why is it almost always the people who stand up for "family value". Not only was he cheating on his wife but he was also cheating on his mistress :o Plus the women he was sleeping with are LOBBYISTS!! KEEP IT CLASSY REPUBLICANS.

Conservative California legislator gives pornographic account of his multiple affairs (including a lobbyist) into open mic - Boing Boing (http://www.boingboing.net/2009/09/09/conservative-califor.html)

California legislator living the California life-style is not really a surprise.

If he was elected in a conservative district I expect there will be a recall movement ,or pressure to resign ;or he will be shown the door in the next primary.


Edit he resigned
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/20090910_In_the_Nation.html

California legislator living the California life-style is not really a suprise.
So family values depend on where you live now? LOL!

Someone should have told assemblyman Mike Duvall (R) it was open mic night. Why is it almost always the people who stand up for "family value". Not only was he cheating on his wife but he was also cheating on his mistress :o Plus the women he was sleeping with are LOBBYISTS!!!!! KEEP IT CLASSY REPUBLICANS.

Conservative California legislator gives pornographic account of his multiple affairs (including a lobbyist) into open mic - Boing Boing (http://www.boingboing.net/2009/09/09/conservative-califor.html)

Glad he's gone. I don't like hypocrites from either side of the isle.

So family values depend on where you live now? LOL!

I did not say I support it . I just said it doesn't surprise me.

He deserves what he'll get, I hope his wife, soon to be ex, gets more than half.





G&P

He deserves what he'll get, I hope his wife, soon to be ex, gets more than half.





G&P


And he'll get the hot young lobbyist.


It's all win for the family values guy!






























NK.

yawn ; this is getting old . I can concede that there are people with "family values " who stray if you'll concede that it is much easier for people who think values are relative to live within their broad terms.

So everyone has family values then - just different versions of those values?

So everyone has family values then - just different versions of those values?

Everyone has values, some are just more flexible than others. That's why Dems reward their crooks (http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0909/york.php3)and perverts.

These days the perverts are in the Republican party.

Guess you haven't followed NJ politics or the people's Republic in Mass . Last I heard Barney's Frank was still a committee chair.

Steve Lipski urinating on a crowd is one of the most disgusting .
Jersey City Councilman Steven Lipski is No. 1 threat at Washington club (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/11/08/2008-11-08_jersey_city_councilman_steven_lipski_is_.html)

The recent list goes on and on. Eliot Spitzer, John Edwards, Jim McGreedy, Gary Condit... some oldies but goddies ,Mel Reynolds, proclaimed that he had "won the lottery" when an informant tricked him into thinking he was about to score with a 13 year old girl. Gary Hart in his arrogance told the press to follow him and then got caught. Even Franklin Roosevelt lived the lie . FDR is still their hero.

The difference is, when a Republican does something scandalous, he almost always loses his supporters.
Democrats live a zero-sum world.

As far as the money stuff .No biggie If they take a little for themselves (cold cash Jefferson) or engage in predatory underage homosexual stuff with congressional pages (Gerry Studds), it's no biggie . They tip toed over the bar.

Look, I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you over who's the most hypocritical or perverted. I'll leave that up to you.

Hehehehehehe... he said pissing contest

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Look, I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you over who's the most hypocritical or perverted. I'll leave that up to you.

Sorry but you DID get into that pi$$ing contest.

You said: "These days the perverts are in the Republican party."

You only went to "Look, I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you" when your statement was proven wrong.

If you truly don't want to get into such a pi$$ing contest, then I suggest not making such comments in the first place.

Personally, I have no problem with such contests... I just have to stand a bit farther back than most so as not to hurt anyone.

Elliot

Look, I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you over who's the most hypocritical or perverted. I'll leave that up to you.

So you don't care to acknowledge the different standard? It's simple, this guy resigned already. A Democrat engages in corruption and he gets rewarded with a committee chairmanship. You don't see anything wrong with that scenario?

Sorry but you DID get into that pi$$ing contest.
You carefully omitted the post before mine by your friend:
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Everyone has values, some are just more flexible than others. That's why Dems reward their crooks (http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0909/york.php3)and perverts.

I don't even care that this guy cheated on his wife and his mistress (PLAYA PLAYA) . I care he slept with a lobbyist but that is a different story. I just wonder why is it almost always the family value people. Do you think they champion these family values so people will think oh he/she is a good person they would never cheat on their spouse? But then they get comfortable and slip up. That is what I wonder.

But it isn't always the family values guys as the replys to this illustrate. They are easier targets for mockery because they profess the standards they do . That's all.

In the end it is silly fodder . The Republican punish them more than the Dems will.

You carefully omitted the post before mine by your friend:
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I read it. Tom said that some people have more flexible "family values" than others.

Then I read your post. You said that these days the perverts are Republicans.

When Tom challenged your statement by pointing to the number of Dems that are perverts, you said you didn't want to get into a "pi$$in' contest" with him over who is worse, Dems or Reps.

But you had already gotten into the pi$$in contest by your statement that these days the perverts are Reps. You only stepped away from the "pi$$in contest" when you saw you were wrong.

I read the entire exchange. You both entered the pi$$in contest and LOST the pi$$in contest with an ill-conceived post about only Reps being the perverts, which was easily proven false.

Elliot

Tom after I posted I thought I should have said lately it has been the family value people. But you are right it is fodder.

I read it. Tom said that some people have more flexible "family values" than others.

Then I read your post. You said that these days the perverts are Republicans.
No, tom said "That's why Dems reward their crooks (http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0909/york.php3)and perverts."

I don't even care that this guy cheated on his wife and his mistress (PLAYA PLAYA) . I care he slept with a lobbyist but that is a different story. I just wonder why is it almost always the family value people. Do you think they champion these family values so people will think oh he/she is a good person they would never cheat on their spouse? But then they get comfortable and slip up. That is what I wonder.

Spit I have no doubt some run on about their "values" to get elected. The difference we've tried to illustrate is we like to hold ours accountable. But then there are others who do just "slip up." This guy appears to me to just be a plain old fashioned hypocrite.

tom said "That's why Dems reward their crooksand perverts
Am I wrong ? Where is Barney's Frank these days ? How long did Fat Teddy serve ? William Jefferson was reelected even as he was found guilty of a felony.

Oh wait... he was stripped of committee assignments when Madame Mimi wanted to make the election about Republican ethics.

Dude, elliot is fat too, have some respect.

No, tom said "That's why Dems reward their crooks (http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0909/york.php3)and perverts."

I know you guys get confused but I'm not tom (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/its-open-mike-night-ca-395171.html#post1973172).

You guys are interchangeable.

You guys are interchangeable.

And you guys aren't?

Besides ,I sort of said it. Just wordier

As far as the money stuff .No biggie If they take a little for themselves (cold cash Jefferson) or engage in predatory underage homosexual stuff with congressional pages (Gerry Studds), it's no biggie .

besides ,I sorta said it. just wordier

As far as the money stuff .No biggie If they take a little for themselves (cold cash Jefferson) or engage in predatory underage homosexual stuff with congressional pages (Gerry Studds), it's no biggie .

You're a little more articulate in your answers :)

Republican Sex Scandals Dwarf Those of Democrats - Salem-News.Com (http://www.salem-news.com/articles/october172007/repub_scandals_10_17_07.php)


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I started to read it by got distracted by this headline:

Charlie Sheen EXTREMELY POWERFUL Video Address To Obama, Demands Transparency, Truth On 911

And this one

Treason, Betrayal and Deceit: The Road to 9/11 and Beyond

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We need to take a hard look at why the mainstream media (MSM) have paid more attention to Sarah Palin's wardrobe than they have to dissecting blatant falsehoods.

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So much for not getting in a pi$$ing contest.

So much for not getting in a pi$$ing contest.
I changed my mind, I saw you guys pissing all over the place. :)

No, tom said "That's why Dems reward their crooksand perverts."

That's true too. They made one of them a President for 8 years. Whereas the Reps drum theirs out of office.

Dude, elliot is fat too, have some respect.

Yep. I'm fat. But Kennedy was a friggin' whale. He needed a crane to get out of bed in the morning. The material used for one pair of his pants could be used to outfit a whole Ethiopian village. The food he stuffed in his face at one meal could end hunger in most of Africa for a week.

So let's not try to compare me to him, all right?

Elliot

Yep. I'm fat. But Kennedy was a friggin' whale. He needed a crane to get out of bed in the morning. The material used for one pair of his pants could be used to outfit a whole Ethiopian village. The food he stuffed in his face at one meal could end hunger in most of Africa for a week.Sounds like the majority of americans what with the obesity problem there.


So let's not try to compare me to him, all right?Well you are comparable, Kennedy was fat and you are too. Nothing wrong with that, you just share that trait.

I changed my mind, I saw you guys pissing all over the place. :)

I gave one example, that's pissing all over the place? Just as values are relative to the left, reality is relative to you.

Sounds like the majority of americans what with the obesity problem there.

I'm a svelte 5' 11" and 160 lbs.

I'm a svelte 5' 11" and 160 lbs.

Showoff... :cool:

I'm 5'6" and 145lbs. If I had a mustache and a belly I would look like super mario.

I'm 5'6" and 145lbs. If i had a mustache and a belly I would look like super mario.

I got you beat.

I'm 5'4", 200 lbs. I already have the belly. I look more like Mario's pet baby elephant.

Elliot

Let me ask you ET is it a B*tch to find shoes in our size! Thank god for Zappos.com or I would never be able to find a pair of shoes that actually fit me.

I'm 5'11", 184lbs. Hopefully I'll get a cycle in tonight.

Showoff... :cool:

It took me over 40 years to get a 33" waist... it was work getting up to 160. :D

I'm 5'6" and 145lbs. If i had a mustache and a belly I would look like super mario.

Mario's a good looking guy...

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/554/554877/super-mario-64-ds-20041025093848815_640w.jpg

Super Mario is a good looking guy I mean he is Italian ;)

Let me ask you ET is it a B*tch to find shoes in our size! Thank god for Zappos.com or I would never be able to find a pair of shoes that actually fit me.

I've got a size 6 shoe... my foot is PARTICULARLY small even for my height. Good for martial arts (the same amount of power striking a smaller area makes for a more effective kick) but bad for buying shoes.

I happen to like Shoebuy.com. They've got a decent selection of shoes in a pretty decent variety of sizes. I haven't tried Zappos. Thanks for the tip, I'll check them out.

Political parties:

GOP still has a few standards and tends to hold its members to those standards.

Dem does not hold its members to any standard. How can members be held to a standard that does not exist?

It is pure hypocrisy to hold the opposition to standards that you don't even believe in.

It is pure hypocricy to hold the opposition to standards that you don't even believe in.Hello gal:

You don't mean, do you, that Democrats, no matter WHAT standards they have or don't have, can't even MENTION when a rightwinger VIOLATES a standard that HE HIMSELF (the rightwinger) believes in??

I don't think you mean that.

excon

Hello gal:

You don't mean, do you, that Democrats, no matter WHAT standards they have or don't have, can't even MENTION when a rightwinger VIOLATES a standard that HE HIMSELF (the rightwinger) believes in????

I don't think you mean that.

excon

I said it is hypocritacal when he does. Because organizationally, they won't criticize their own.

Obviously, there are individual Democrats who do criticize their own, but that is not the party SOP.

I said it is hypocritacal when he does. Because organizationally, they won't criticize their own.

Obviously, there are individual Democrats who do criticize their own, but that is not the party SOP.

Ahhhh, but you see, excon refuses to acknowledge hyporacy on the left. He seems to think that Republicans should be called on everything, and Dems should be called on nothing... because Reps sometimes fail to live up to their own high standards and Dems should hold the Reps to those standards, but Dems HAVE no standards, and therefore violate nothing. He fails to see that Dems should be held to the same standards to which they hold Reps. Because if they are to be the arbiters and judges of Reps and thair falures, they should be living up to the same standards that they judge others for.

But the number of times that Dems are not only not held to the same standard as Reps, but are actually celebrated for their infidelities and failures of social values, has been thoroughly documented.

Elliot

Elliot

Ahhhh, but you see, excon refuses to acknowledge hyporacy on the left. He seems to think that Republicans should be called on everything, and Dems should be called on nothing... Hello again, El:

You were a lot more fun to argue with when you told the truth.. There ARE enough differences between us to keep us arguing into the next millennium.. So, you don't have to make up stuff... But, I guess that's your nature...

excon

excon,

I have rarely seen you criticize a Dem for their infidelities. But you have never missed a chance to do so for a Rep. You exhibit a clear double standard on this issue. Call it a lie if you want. But your own actions are pretty clear to me.

Elliot

excon,

I have rarely seen you criticize a Dem for their infidelities. But you have never missed a chance to do so for a Rep. You exhibit a clear double standard on this issue. Call it a lie if you want. But your own actions are pretty clear to me.

ElliotWhere are your criticisms of republicans?
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Clearly a double-standard you exhibit. Your own actions are pretty clear to me.

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