I'm light.. thats it
Looking good feeling good its all good
It was hell 3 months ago
I was spotted with ugly paches al around my body dark white yeallow all mix up
But I steped up my game and started using mono 3 times a day
That's the only way it works
It hard to use it 3 times a day because it burns and you get really dry and peel every day
But it was worth it
Now I'm light and I'm about to use it only 1 a day just for maintenance
Just to slow everything.. and take it easy.. I'm starting to live again
Yes I was like dead for 6 month... this treatment is hell
I secluded myself from the world for 6 months because I looked awful
But now I'm fine.. it was worth it
But I'd noe recommend it to anyone
You need to be very strong person to do that
Otherwise... lets say stay way!

Okay I see a lot of posts about mono.net
Don't buy from them I do have experience with them
All I can say is that its not pure! And I know for sure they getting their MONO from China
LIGHTERRR a user in this forum is basically Mono.net
I'm not even goona argue with someone about it.. trust my word..

Stay away from the indians too

Good luck

I am using 'mac' company's mono 20%,,
Its an indian company , is this company's mono doesn't work?

No.. this forum is the only one I'm sharing my exprince with

I hated MONO I loved mono
Yeah that's what happened when you using this kind of dangerous chemical
I'd NOT.. I am NOT
And will NOT recommend it to anyone.

BYT
Don't now about MAC mono
I have exprince with people who sell powder
I won't give any names not even in pm
Like I said I won't recommend it..

You have to be really careful with mono. I have used it, but I am already white. I only used it for some discoloration, and it worked so well that is gave me patches elsewhere. But since I am already white, no one else noticed it because they were very visible. I believe mixing the mono is a good way to tone down the effectiveness of it. You will get a more even results, instead of the streaks. Full blown mono will give you vitiligo like MJ, so be careful guys. I remember someone on depig.com who got some awful white patches from mono and she has been working hard to even things out. The darker you are the more it shows.

It's a trade-off. Either you go all out, (thus faster depigmentation, but less stable) or you take it steady, slow and with very low dilutes.

For all of you guys going 'all out', I'd say that's a bad choice; it appears the starter of this topic himself has had some issues with his overall complexion by using over 20% at once. (Regardless of however many times per day used.)

mepk5... no!

You can read my exp only here
Chuck my history here

Full blown mono will give you vitiligo like MJ

Barry101, mono can not give you vitiligo. It can definitely cause discoloration and spots, but it can not give you the disease, that is scientifically impossible. Besides, Michael Jackson already had the vitiligo disease, and therefore his doctor prescribes him mono to depigment.

Is MAC company's mono real? Any -ve or +ve experiences?
<20&#37; mono in cream base usp >

Any users here?

Looking forward for your replies

Technically speaking, that is not vitiligo. Those are similar symptoms, due to that area having discoloration, but that is not considered vitiligo.

Vitiligo is something that affects your entire body, some could compare it to a sort of "cancer", where certain cells, in this case melanocytes are not functioning properly.

- It slowly spreads, which monobenzone use will not do. Monobenzone only affects the area which it is applied to. If you applied 100&#37; monobenzone to an area for 1 year, you would most likely turn that area pale white, but it would not spread to other skin.

- Vitiligo usually occurs when your melanocytes no longer function, or even die with the common chain for renewal being distorted. Monobenzone simply kills them, and therefore the chain isn't generally harmed.

- The gene NALP1 regulates inflammation and cell death within your immunity system. People with genetic disorders in which this gene does not properly function lose the ability to maintain their melanocytes. Monobenzone does not show any signs of changing or affecting this gene.

Until I've seen proof myself or your own studies proving that monobenzone doesn't work in this way, I'll remain faithful to my own research.

Do you have any scientific evidence that it was the monobenzone that directly affected your vitiligo? No.

As far as I can see, you could've been susceptible to vitiligo from other causes; and if so, it's still not considered genuine VITILIGO. (Read the real definition of VITILIGO as stated above, and let me know if this natural inflammation process is affecting you.)

I'd rather you not be so quick to debunk medical research done by professionals over what you claim to have experienced.

I've gotten spots from minor use of monobenzone as well. I don't consider that vitiligo, as those patches still contain traces of melanin, in much lighter brown shades. (skin lightening effect.)

If you still have pictures however, feel free to pm me. I'd be interested in seeing what you've 'experienced'.

I agree with Lilgreg.
Mepk5 and Barry101, I further researched and there is no scientific evidence that states that people get vitiligo from using monobenzone. It is not about debate, it is about fact and misconception. People who are dignosed with vitiligo, it may also affect the nervous system as well as the immune system. It does not only cause white patches. Using monobenzone can cause white spotting symptom as in vitiligo patients, but vitiligo patients' diagnoses goes beyond just the skin issue. Unless you are also suffering from neurological and hepatic disorders, cerebral vascular spasms, as well as medical issues with the mucous membranes then that is most likely actual vitiligo and should be diagnosed.

"Vitiligo is an autoimmune condition. The nervous system and the immune system work in close interaction. The brain regulates the activity of the immune system. Because of this autoimmune disorders are affected by emotional factors and stress."
http://www.dermabest.com/links.aspx?id=38

"Vitiligo also affects the mucous membranes: retina, oral and nasal cavities, genital and rectal areas."

"Stress is a factor that may cause the existing patches to extend or may cause changes in their distribution upon the body."

"Vitiligo is caused by the action of certain factors in a specific context. This context is created by the simultaneous occurrence of hepatic and neuroendocrine disorders that cause wrong metabolic interpretations and changes of the hormonal secretions."

"Because of the hepatic and neuroendocrine disorders, any emotional shock causes a cerebral vascular spasm. The cerebral area affected by the spasm innervates a specific area on the skin. This skin area will be affected by the diminishing of nerve endings vascularization and sensitivity. The local metabolism is greatly slowed down, which will generate a poor oxygenation as well as retaining of toxins in the affected surface.

At cellular level, the melanin receptors will be filled with its metabolic products and not with pigment as it normally happens. At this point, the vicious circle of the disease is triggered: the brain no longer receives the order to produce the necessary pigment, as the melanin receptors are already filled with metabolic products."
http://www.pirasan.ro/en/latest_news/vitiligo_is_healed_by_acupuncture_and_apiphytother apy.html

With the research that I have read, none were mentioned that the use of mono can give you vitiligo, but it can give you the symptom of whitened areas and spots just as in the skin as in vitiligo patients.

This is a misconception. Again, unless you are also suffering from neurological and hepatic disorders, cerebral vascular spasms, as well as medical issues with the mucous membranes then that is most likely actual vitiligo and should be diagnosed.

Is MAC company's mono real ? ? any -ve or +ve experiences??
<20% mono in cream base usp >

any users here ? ?

looking forward for ur replies

Blue, I am unsure. Do you have the link for the company?

Supershallow how long were you using mono until you saw the improvement that you wanted? Are you now maintaining or continuing to lighten further?

I'm light..thats it
looking good feeling good its all good
it was hell 3 months ago
i was spotted with ugly paches al around my body dark white yeallow all mix up
but i steped up my game and started using mono 3 times a day
thats the only way it works
it hard to use it 3 times a day because it burns and you get really dry and peel every day
but it was worth it
now I'm light and I'm about to use it only 1 a day just for maintenance
just to slow everthing..and take it easy.. i'm starting to live again
yes i was like dead for 6 month...this treatment is hell
i secluded myself from the world for 6 months because i looked awful
but now i'm fine..it was worth it
but I'd noe recommend it to anyone
you need to be very strong person to do that
otherwise...lets say stay way!

okay i see alot of posts about mono.net
don't buy from them i do have experience with them
all i can say is that its not pure! and i know for sure they getting their MONO from China
LIGHTERRR a user in this forum is basically Mono.net
i'm not even goona argue with someone about it..trust my word..

stay away from the indians too

good luck

Gosh, sounds like any kind of mono is trouble, trouble, trouble! :D

According to Dr. Grimes, a specialist in Vitiligo, treatment with monobenzone even as high as 40% and even in patients with extensive vitiligo, an illusion of success lasts for up to 1-2 years, thereafter which repigmentation is growingly extensive, and grows super-resistant even to chemical peels combined with 40% mono (!!!),....which pretty much means they FAIL and have to go thru that entire process in REVERSE in the long run.

^What a horrible process to put oneself through for a huge portion of their lifetime!

"It seems that monobenzone knocks out melanocytes in the epidermis, but does not affect the follicular reservoir. Consequently, while these patients depigment beautifully, one to two years later, they may repigment as the follicular melanocytes become activated. Retreatment with 20 percent monobenzone is ineffective, and the pigmentation has also proven refractory to depigmentation with 40 percent monobenzone combined with chemical peels. Ultimately, treatment involves repigmentation using PUVA or narrowband UVB," Dr. Grimes says.

There's so many horror stories... here's yet another troubled, tested soul:

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-lightening/lightening-skin-monobenzone-has-messed-skin-up-188828.html

:eek:

I swear that's what happened to someone on the Yahoo brighterskin forum. After a long period of mono usage and getting to what he/she considered to be close to their goal, they started repigmenting and they just stopped all lightening as nothing seemed to work including the mono. Shortly after that they disappeared from the board and we never heard from them again.

OMG speaking of Yahoo brighterskin I was searching there for mono entries a whiles back and someone said some girl SN "Teenypatches" or Tennypatches committed suicide after failed. (Dont get how they'd know, though)

Yikes! RIP Teenypatches!

OMG,

I remember that name. That is so sad! It just goes to show how desperate people can get over this whole lightening business!

Now,if you use monobenzone on none vitiligo skin,it will cause chemical leucoderma/vitiligo.I've some vitiligo spot's on me natural.. I think monobenzone is a good whitening agent,but you have to take it slow.

OMG,

I remember that name. That is so sad !! It just goes to show how desperate people can get over this whole lightening business !!

And that is the EXACT reason I have posted things on this forum in the past and got abused...
Now do you guys see where I am coming from...

And stop calling it Mono, Mono is an illness :p
Mononucleosis - Mono - Causes, Symptoms, Diagnosis and Treatment on WebMD (http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/infectious-mononucleosis-topic-overview)

What about Umar or was it Omar? What became of him? If I recall however vaguely, correctly, he posted result after a year, looked depigged having gone from from dark indian look to a fair palestinian look... but now its been a couple years or more already.. He disappeared too!!



OMG,

I remember that name. That is so sad !! It just goes to show how desperate people can get over this whole lightening business !!

Yeah the passage on Yahoo was sooooo sad. I pictured her going to the beach back in her country and walking deeper and deeper into the water and getting swallowed up, just over a cosmetic affliction... yep so sad!



And that is the EXACT reason I have posted things on this forum in the past and got abused...
Now do you guys see where I am coming from...

And stop calling it Mono, Mono is an illness :p


:D

Oh, I remember Omar... he looked quite nice with depigged skin... he was not pasty white but just the right shade of white but he did say that he had vitiligo on his back...

Oh, I remember Omar...he looked quite nice with depigged skin...he was not pasty white but just the right shade of white but he did say that he had vitiligo on his back...

Yah, I'm so jealous!

Hope he's still doing great! :)

OMG speaking of yahoo brighterskin I was searching there for mono entries a whiles back and someone said some girl SN "Teenypatches" or Tennypatches committed suicide after failed. (Dont get how they'd know, though)

Yikes! RIP Teenypatches!

Committed suicide after fail? What does this mean?

I don't know, I just googled it again and don't find it, was from a whiles back. Maybe MAHARANI read it or remembers what happened exactly, to poor Teenypatches! :(

No this is the first that I am hearing of this. The board was very active at one time and then it got really quiet, so I stopped visiting as often. I must have missed when it was brought up.

She has been playing on my mind since you mentioned it and I still can't believe it. Wish there was something someone could have done. I hope she is in a happier place now.

Committed suicide after fail? What does this mean?


From what Golden_Boy has said it appears that she did not achieve her lightening goal and decided she could not go on. So sad...

Yeah like Maharani explained, apparently she gave up and didn't want to live like that. Maybe people made fun of her and so on... SAD.

Ironically, it was mentioned she was on vacation in her country, so that really got to me the melodrama of her returning to her homeland to end it all cause of the patchwork of colors I guess?

That would make for a great posthumous eulogic movie piece!

Would if nothing happened to her but was caught up in the moment, and now just decided to quit the forums?

Scary and sad, if true... wow!

What a bloody shame if its true, we're lucky the news reach anybody else in the SL community.

Here's an interesting passage from a book, talking about Michael Jackson's use of Mono

The Odd Body: Mysteries of Our Weird ... - Google Books (http://books.google.com/books?id=hFme6-sAqJ8C&pg=RA1-PT56&lpg=RA1-PT56&dq=monobenzone+failed&source=bl&ots=C4KbCC27PP&sig=8E1olCjCxa6rfKG6dmj7zCMjLNI&hl=en&ei=X1zNSuSgKMHK8Qao1ODzAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6#v=onepage&q=monobenzone&#37;20failed&f=false)

They said he could have gone back to his original colour if he wanted to, at anytime, I doubt whether he would have seen this as an option. I think he preferred to look the way he did than go back to having colour.

^ Yeah sad sad, apparently she or he chose DEATH over going through the process in reverse :(

I'm quite positive that Michael Jackson was neither a transsexual nor a female..

^ Oops I had my glasses off when I posted that, I read she and assumed they were talking about Teenypatches not MJ, sorry.



Yeah like Maharani explained, apparently she gave up and didnt want to live like that. Maybe people made fun of her and so on... SAD.

Ironically, it was mentioned she was on vacation in her country, so that really got to me the melodrama of her returning to her homeland to end it all cause of the patchwork of colors I guess?

That would make for a great posthumous eulogic movie piece!

I'm quite positive that Michael Jackson was neither a transsexual nor a female..

I know that Michael Jackson was straight, he was different and soft spoken. But his whole family are that way, I used to be sooo in love with MJ when I was a kid. I swore I was going to marry him when I grew up...

I tried searching for "Teenypatches" in Google but could find nothing, anyone has the link?

Didn't he marry his derm?

Re Teenypatches - Can't find it. Yahoo! Groups (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/brighterskin/) Someone deleted EVERYTHING!!

It was just like 1 or 2 single messages on there, apparently friend of hers posted that she found from her mom contacting people in her computer, or book, I think? Everyone on there was talking about it for a while. Too bad nothing from there was saved or archived.

Saddest story I ever read

Well, I hope she went to get help, as that had became a sickness and unhealthy obsession for her if this did happen.

Maybe some people feel like they're a white "person" inside?

Souls have no color but yeahh obsessions are plenty abound.

Hi, Super Shallow!

Has your original question been answered to your satisfaction here, please?

Thanks!

Yes sometime around 2004 another person who used Mono and had to go through repigmentation, ADERO, admin of old Lighter Skin forum), told me about TEENYPATCHES committing suicide that year, and sounded sincere about it.

See here:
- The Bright Skin Forum (http://excoboard.com/exco/thread.php?forumid=69494&threadid=314396)

\"Im sure some of you remember Adero, she was well known from our old Bright Skin forums. She has written about her Benoquin experience and I hope this will discourage anyone who are contemplating the use of Benoquin. Ive warned people in the past not to use it, however, some people still have been inquiring about it. I do not recommend Benoquin or Mequinol because theyre very strong depigmenting agents that can do some serious damage to the skin. You will end up with vitiligo and eczema thats implicated in the message below.

but the medication, benoquin, still indicates discontinue all use at 4 months that where I was misled, maybe others? Yes everybody has different chemistry so progress of vitiligo and total depigmentation is variable. I have been depigmenting since 2002, is taking forever! 20% left. Decided to depigment before extensive vitiligo, for cosmetic reasons. I was buying monobenzone from researchd, then leucostrata until tsunami. Now, dlight and depig. 4-oha is the same thing as mequinol. The skin will eventually over-replace the 33% maxim pigment being inhibited by either hydroquinone or mequinol as they are both weak and eventually ineffective on limiting pigment. To get permanent white skin you have to kill, and keep killing melanocytes. Hydroquinone and mequinol can't do that, but monobenzone can. Long-term monobenzone depigmentation is erratic because it is only effective on 85% of epidermal melanocytes, and only 14% of follicular melanocytes at any one time. In active vitiligo, one's own immune system will continue to depigment even the migrating non-G1 and non-telogen reservoirs, which monobenzone alone can't do, yielding a faster prognosis. In non-extensive vitiligo and normal skin, the skin being one organ, monobenzone therapy will continuously be counter-affected by the above referenced reservoirs. Contrary to popular belief, the skin does not become immune to monobenzone, but monobenzone at the dermal layer is only effective on nondifferentiating melanoblasts, as opposed to simple epidermal. Breaks are not necessary and countereffective to success. Up to 85% of refractory follicular melanocytes repigmenting the dermis and epidermis via melanosome migration, at any one time. There are many people who have indefinitely hypopigmented or depigmented with monobenzone without having extensive vitiligo. Very few of them are famous, but include m. jackson, l. richie, and dr. vikki. Many others are doctors and pharmacists with african or asian descent who use dr ashley's chance success formula with retinoic acid. Skin depigmented only with monobenzone is usually left with light brown tones and does not glow white in blacklight, while skin depigmented via universal vitiligo, monobenzone assisted extensive vitiligo, and/or aggressive laser therapies appears white and glows in blacklight. Depigmentation for non-extensive vitiligo is off-the-books, expensive and cumbersome. My derm warns do not use over 30% monobenzone unless you are already 50% vitiligo depigmented or greater, or it will cause ochronosis via toxic buildup especially in face, palms, mucous membranes, kidneys. Anywhere from 2% - 20% fine if extensive vitiligo, 20% - 30% if not extensive vitiligo. Monobenzone absorbed best: all skin folds, under arms, behind ears, and directly around labia/testicles. Hyperpigmentation first is actually a better sign that areas will fully depigment than initial hypopigmentation is. That from the experts especially pharmacists and doctors hypopigmenting selves slowly. Laser depigmentation will be necessary to destroy the resistant reservoirs that tend to activate during the 1st-2nd yr following monobenzone therapy. That is where I am at. My doctors tried peels, oral and intradermal monobenzone patches, glucocorticoids, imatinib, but only laser depigmentation sessions along with continued monobenzone applications indefinitely banish the repopulating melanocytes. Eyebrows gone permanently, lips, nipples, undereyes lighter though, due to laser. It is purely experimental and if you do not have vitiligo or $6K+ disposable annual salary you should not touch monobenzone or consider permanent lightening. It took michael jackson 10 years and $1M to fully depigment exposed areas of skin and it is reported he still has pigment on torso, leg, pubic areas. Why because laser so time consuming if you are other 98 out of 100 people without vitiligo, consider self lucky. Don't use hydroquinone or mequinol (4-oha) since you will either get hyperpigmentation or vitiligo or both long term\" -holly

Wow what a story Samir. I hope anyone considering using monobenzone reads this fully. What an exhausting and depressing process. It was nice for her to share this with you and thanks for passing it on.

Super shallow, how long have you been using,monobenzone cream?I bet you very light,now.

What happened to supershadow?

Lol been almost 2 months

Yes how nice that samir is sharing with us ! The reasons are as below:

1) How nice That everyone seems to confide in you, Samir - The founder of the fake herbalinn and depig websites.

2) How nice that The man who usd mono hiimself and got white as paper, and is always demotivating others from doing it.

3) How nice that the man who has dissappeared for years, not ready to help anyone in lightening process, but has suddenly arisen when the herbalinn forum is in the doldrums making no sales any more with its crappy benzylarbutin.

4) How nice that the man who makes fake aliases everywhere on his forum and markets herbalinn and depig products all the time.

Has anyone told you HOW Great you are ?

Your lies are the most ROCKING ever !

Sure I believe you ! Sure I do...


As the inventor of the phrase MAKING PEOPLE A FOOL, you are a master at it ! How can I not believe you ?

Btw, are you sure you are the same samir or someone pretending to be him now considering he has never botherd to come back online to lightening sites since years??

Two thumbs up.

Samir, going through all your posts previously, you've stated too many contradictions and provided information and assumptions without any backbone whatsoever. Might I add, you're known to be an outright seller too?

... that's what I started thinking today as I was reading through his posts and was looking at the before and after picts, there was little reason left to answer the "how many shades" question.

So, Is SuperShallow alive? Mono isn't poisonous, is it?

No,monobenzone is not poisonous,some doctor's give it to,people that have vitiligo 50%of there body,if it was poisonous they would never approved by the fda... lol!

Barry101, mono can not give you vitiligo. It can definitely cause discoloration and spots, but it can not give you the disease, that is scientifically impossible. Besides, Michael Jackson already had the vitiligo disease, and therefore his doctor prescribes him mono to depigment.

SO why do the medical journals refer to it a chemical vitiligo then? They also refer to it as chemical leukoderma. Vitiligo means depigmentation of the skin, whether it be an immunity disorder or from someone using some kind of phenol on their skin. I do understand what you are saying though that you cannot make your body destroy the pigment cells. I understand that it gives the symptoms of natural vitiligo.

It's referred to as "Chemical Vitiligo" simply because it induces vitiligo like symptoms to both vitiligo-afflicted users and non alike. The only difference is that it is usually much more potent and faster for vitiligo inflicted users than their non-inflicted counterparts, and the fact that people who do not have vitiligo can often revert the changes to an extent.

There has been several posts added recently that further explains vitiligo and the differences. I had written a lengthy post about it somewhere to further scientifically and medically explain my answer along with links posted for reference, but it may still be somewhere around here.

Stop advrtise your fack indian company

The white discoloration and spots you get from using monobenzone is referred to as vitiligo. This is a vitiligo caused by chemicals. It is not the autoimmune type. So yes, chemical vitiligo is possible.

And if you do not have natural vitiligo and you use monobenzone, the color will likely come back easier than for a person who really has the natural one.

Case in point, Michael Jackson. He had spots of color everywhere. I always thought that he caused his vitiligo by using monobenzone. That article that was posted on the previous pages really rings true. That if he wanted to be his natural brown color, he would have stopped using monobenzone.