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excon
Sep 2, 2009, 07:07 PM
Hello:

Help me out here. I just happened to flip onto Hannity, and there was Mark Fuhrman, sitting there as a panelist...

Mark Fuhrman, if you recall, is the LA detective who LIED on the witness stand and got caught, during the OJ Simpson trial. His lies, in my opinion, ARE the single reason why OJ got acquitted of two murders he surly committed.

Why is anybody paying attention to this man??

excon

excon
Sep 3, 2009, 06:25 AM
Hello Righty's:

Nothing?? I figured.

excon

ETWolverine
Sep 3, 2009, 06:53 AM
Hannity had Furman on?

I missed it?

Damn. What was the topic on hand?

Frankly, excon, after some of the pure BS you've posted here recently, (like BS about the Dems being bi-partisan on health care reform, like BS about government-run health care being cheaper than private health care,) Furman's got more creditbility than you do.

And Hannity must be doing something right. He's consistently got the best ratings of any Cable TV news-commentary program.

That the best you can do to attack Hannity?

Elliot

spitvenom
Sep 3, 2009, 06:59 AM
Do you think Fuhrman and Hannity had a contest to see who could say the N word more times in a minute?

How was that attack?

tomder55
Sep 3, 2009, 07:08 AM
Hello Righty's:

Nothing?? I figured.



Having not seen the show or even thought about Furman for years then I really don't have anything to say except to repeat what I've said in the past . I do not get my information from the conservative pundits . Actually I've never seen Hannity in his new format since he split with Alan Colmes. 9PM is late for someone who gets up as early as I do.

ETWolverine
Sep 3, 2009, 07:13 AM
Do you think Fuhrman and Hannity had a contest to see who could say the N word more times in a minute?

How was that attack?

It's a rather foolish attack, actually... since Hannity has never been accused of racism or of saying the n word... Where's the connection?

Elliot

excon
Sep 3, 2009, 07:14 AM
That the best you can do to attack Hannity?Hello El:

So, it doesn't bother you that a cold blooded killer got off because of this lying bastard?? What happened to your law and order bonifides?? You sound positively liberal.

But, if it's OK with Hannity, it's OK with you, huh?

excon

spitvenom
Sep 3, 2009, 07:26 AM
Well someone who would have a known racist on his show must agree with something he has to say. So I think he is a racist. Do I have proof No. But I am starting to learn just say it and they will believe it. You don't need proof just scream about it the loudest.

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

excon
Sep 3, 2009, 07:28 AM
Furman's got more creditbility than you do.Hello again, El:

Really?? You don't want me to run a CREDIBILITY poll right here amongst OUR readers, do you??

Nahhh. You don't want to do that.. You want to TALK about it is all.

excon

ETWolverine
Sep 3, 2009, 07:33 AM
Hello El:

So, it doesn't bother you that a cold blooded killer got off because of this lying bastard??? What happened to your law and order bonifides????? You sound positively liberal.

But, if it's ok with Hannity, it's ok with you, huh?

excon

Actually, Furman got what he deserved. He lost his career, was convicted of perjury, and got 3 years probation. Law and order were justly served in his case.

As for OJ... he's serving now. Nine years at minimum. He's also been nailed for $1.4 million in back taxes, and got sued by a cable company for pirating their cable TV for $25,000 plus $34K in legal fees. Plus what he owes the Browns and the Goldmans from the civil cases ($33.5 million). He has lost all the money from his book deal, because the rights were handed over to the Goldmans in order to pay off the debt. All-in-all, this has actually worked out better than if he'd been convicted straight off... he's losing MORE money this way, the Goldmans have collected more, and the suffering is drawn out. It's not what I would have planned for, but G-d has a really weird sense of humor.

Elliot

spitvenom
Sep 3, 2009, 07:38 AM
and got sued by a cable company for pirating their cable TV for $25,000 plus $34K in legal fees. .

Elliot

That just made my day!! I never knew that! Hahahahaa

ETWolverine
Sep 3, 2009, 09:13 AM
That just made my day!!!!!! I never knew that!! hahahahaa

My pleasure.

ETWolverine
Sep 3, 2009, 09:16 AM
Spitvenom,

For your reading pleasure, here's the source:

O.J. Simpson loses DirecTV piracy case - U.S. news- msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8719276/)

Elliot

speechlesstx
Sep 3, 2009, 09:25 AM
Ex, I don't watch Hannity either, and I don't know why anyone would listen to Furhman... he's about as credible as Olbermann.

excon
Sep 3, 2009, 09:28 AM
Hello again, Steve:

The best part of my day is the worst...

excon

speechlesstx
Sep 3, 2009, 09:43 AM
Has Olby ever made his own "Worst Person in the World" list?

excon
Sep 3, 2009, 09:59 AM
Hello again, Steve:

I don't know. I don't care. It's good schtick! Hands down, Hannity is the WORST, though.

If I were Hannity, and had the temerity to have Fuhrman as a guest, I ABSOLUTELY would NOT have him on a panel where his opposition was black... Yet, that's exactly what was going on when I tuned in...

I don't know if I was the only one thinking that every time Fuhrman said something to the black guy, in his head he was thinking "you dumb nigger". Now, nobody on FOX would think that a viewer might think that. I wonder why. Maybe they do know, and don't care.

excon

ETWolverine
Sep 3, 2009, 10:02 AM
Betcha that Hannity's ratings for that show beat Keith Overbites ratings.

Which means that Hannity and Fox know what they're doing.

You... not so much.

Elliot

excon
Sep 3, 2009, 10:10 AM
Which means that Hannity and Fox know what they're doing. You... not so much.Hello again, El:

Come on, El... You know a guy who hates blacks hates Jews too. I don't support bigotry no matter how popular it is.

You, not so much.

excon

ETWolverine
Sep 3, 2009, 10:12 AM
Hannity hates Blacks and Jews?

Interesting...

excon
Sep 3, 2009, 10:14 AM
Hannity hates Blacks and Jews?
Hello again, El:

Are you intentionally being stupid?? That IS what you do when I've whipped your a$$.

Whose next?

excon

ETWolverine
Sep 3, 2009, 01:11 PM
Hello again, El:

Are you intentionally being stupid??? That IS what you do when I've whipped your a$$.

Whose next?

excon

So you are saying Hannity hates blacks and Jews, and I'm stupid.

But you're the smart one.

Oookay then... :rolleyes:

Elliot

excon
Sep 3, 2009, 01:15 PM
So you are saying Hannity hates blacks and Jews, and I'm stupid.

But you're the smart one.

oookay then...:rolleyes:Hello again, Elliot:

If you have no idea WHO I'm talking about, then yes, you are less than bright. But, I'm not going to offer any more clues. There's only TWO choices, and you've missed it three times already.

excon

ETWolverine
Sep 3, 2009, 01:21 PM
Hello again, Elliot:

If you have no idea WHO I'm talking about, then yes, you are less than bright. But, I'm not gonna offer any more clues. There's only TWO choices, and you've missed it three times already.

excon

So FUHRMAN hates Jews.

And your proof of this is... that he used the N word.

There seems to be a breakdown in logic SOMEWHERE. But it ain't with me.

Elliot

excon
Sep 3, 2009, 01:27 PM
So FUHRMAN hates Jews.

And your proof of this is... that he used the N word.

There seems to be a breakdown in logic SOMEWHERE. But it ain't with me.Hello again, El:

Well, you finally got the right guy... But, you're unable to connect racism with anti semitism... And, you say YOUR logic ain't broke! Dude!

excon

excon
Sep 3, 2009, 01:42 PM
Hello again, El:

Let me ask you this. Do you think the Ku Klux Klan likes Jews? How about skinheads, do you think they like Jews? What about the Aryan Nation. Do you think they celebrate the sabbath with their Jewish friends?

And, you still can't make ANY connection between racism and Jew haters?

excon

ETWolverine
Sep 3, 2009, 01:43 PM
Hello again, El:

Well, you finally got the right guy... But, you're unable to connect racism with anti semitism... And, you say YOUR logic ain't broke! Dude!

excon

If one uses a racial epithet towards one racial group, that must mean that he's against ALL racial minorities and religious minorities. Is that the logic you are using?

So... if I hate Muslim Fundamentalists because they have murdered friends of mine (which they have)... and I call them a bunch of rag-heads and camel jockeys and sand-N-words... that would mean that I'm anti-Hispanic, anti-Asian and anti-Black according to your logic.

Uh huh...

Elliot

ETWolverine
Sep 3, 2009, 01:45 PM
Hello again, El:

Lemme ask you this. Do you think the Ku Klux Klan likes Jews? How about skinheads, do you think they like Jews? What about the Aryan Nation. Do you think they celebrate the sabbath with their Jewish friends?

And, you still can't make ANY connection between racism and Jew haters??

excon

Are you saying that Fuhrman is a member of the KKK or the AN? Because if you are, I want to see the evidence.

And if you're not, then you are making blanket statements about Fuhrman for which you have no evidence.

Elliot

earl237
Sep 4, 2009, 12:00 PM
I thought it was really unfair that O.J. got away with killing two people partly because of Fuhrman's comments. It is unfair to judge someone by what they say in private conversations that were not meant to be heard. We all say things in private with our close friends that we wouldn't want to be overheard. Fuhrman wrote and excellent book about the 1975 Martha Moxley murder in 1998 called "Murder In Greenwich". His opinion that Kennedy relative Michael Skakel killed her turned out to be correct and he was finally convicted of her murder in 2002 and sentenced to 20 years to life.

excon
Sep 4, 2009, 12:19 PM
I thought it was really unfair that O.J. got away with killing two people partly because of Fuhrman's comments. It is unfair to judge someone by what they say in private conversations that were not meant to be heard.Hello earl:

In truth, he wasn't judged because of what he said in private... He was judged because he LIED on the witness stand about what he said in private. That's different - QUITE a bit different.

Let me ask you this. You're on the jury. You Want to convict him, but the top dawg detective who is the states MAIN witness, has been PROVEN to BE A LIAR. Given the above, nobody in good conscience could convict him...

It ain't PARTLY Fuhrman's fault. It's ALL his fault - lying cop bastard!

excon

ETWolverine
Sep 4, 2009, 12:21 PM
I thought it was really unfair that O.J. got away with killing two people partly because of Fuhrman's comments. It is unfair to judge someone by what they say in private conversations that were not meant to be heard. We all say things in private with our close friends that we wouldn't want to be overheard. Fuhrman wrote and excellent book about the 1975 Martha Moxley murder in 1998 called "Murder In Greenwich". His opinion that Kennedy relative Michael Skakel killed her turned out to be correct and he was finally convicted of her murder in 2002 and sentenced to 20 years to life.

I tend to agree. Fuhrman is a good detective, and understands how to analyze evidence to catch bad guys.

The defense attorneys on the OJ case smeared a good cop's reputation based on a single private conversation. They turned Fuhrman into the bad guy, when it was OJ who committed a double murder. And then guys like excon, who apparently agree with the tactic of the defense team since they are doing the same thing, complain that OJ got off because of Fuhrman.

No... OJ didn't get off because of Fuhrman. OJ got off because his defense team smeared Fuhrman and a jury bought it. Fuhrman's use of the N-word didn't make OJ any less guilty of murder. He wasn't acquitted because of Fuhrman. He was acquitted because he had a good defense team that did a good job, and destroyed a good man and good cop in the process.

Elliot

excon
Sep 4, 2009, 12:36 PM
I tend to agree. Fuhrman is a good detective, and understands how to analyze evidence to catch bad guys.

The defense attorneys on the OJ case smeared a good cop's reputation based on a single private conversation. Hello again, El:

I never heard of somebody being smeared by their OWN LIES. This wasn't about what he said during a private conversation. It's because he LIED UNDER OATH about this private conversation... He didn't have to. OJ would have been convicted if he didn't. But, because he LIED, a KILLER got off. I'd think, as a purported law and order right winger, you'd be really pissed at the ones who did that... But, nooooo... You're telling us what a great cop he is, instead...

I understand that you wingers like lying cop bastards a lot. I just don't understand why. You don't really think having lying cop bastards around is a GOOD thing, do you?? Maybe you do.. I don't know if you ever listen to yourself.

excon

ETWolverine
Sep 9, 2009, 02:29 PM
Keep in mind, excon, that it's the so-called "lying cop bastards" that catch murderers and thieves and gang-bangers. I'll take cops over criminals any day of the week.

I guess you prefer the criminals...

Elliot

excon
Sep 9, 2009, 02:35 PM
Keep in mind, excon, that its the so-called "lying cop bastards" that catch murderers and thieves and gang-bangers. I'll take cops over criminals any day of the week.Hello again, El:

Nope. Missed it again. How do you always manage to do that??

In fact, it's GOOD cops who catch the bad guys. It's the lying cop bastards like your buddy Mark Furhman who GET THEM OFF, just like he got OJ off. I don't know how you could miss that, Mr. law and order dude.

excon

ETWolverine
Sep 9, 2009, 02:44 PM
What constitutes a "good cop" in your lexicon? Does such a thing exist?

Skell
Sep 9, 2009, 04:08 PM
So what your saying Elliot is that you're happy with your law enforcement to break the law?? Just as long as they get the bad guy...

Gee your hard to follow...

Actually no you're not. It sits nicely beside your justification for torture in many ways..

excon
Sep 9, 2009, 05:19 PM
Actually no you're not. It sits nicely beside to your justification for torture in many ways..Hello Skell:

They ARE easy to figure out aren't they? To them, the Constitution is a impediment to REAL law and order... What they don't realize is that THEIR cure is MUCH worse than the disease.

Tyranny from the right or the left, is tyranny nonetheless. That's a notion that's entirely lost on our right wing brethren.

excon