View Full Version : I Was Wondering What Would Be A Good Excuse.
Golden_Girl
Aug 31, 2009, 06:53 PM
When people start to ask you questions like "why are you so light now?", "what are you using on your skin to look so fair?", "are you bleaching your skin?", etc..
What excuses would you use that you find to be a plausible answer without really spilling the beans? :p
doloress
Aug 31, 2009, 06:58 PM
I tell them I have been doing peels in spa to get back to the skin I had when I was a baby as it looked healthier. I know it sounds stupid but that the only thing I came up with when I was asked.
Golden_Girl
Aug 31, 2009, 07:10 PM
That's a good idea! Did they react strange when you said you were getting back to the skin that you had when you were a baby or ask why lighten?
fairr
Sep 1, 2009, 01:48 AM
Just say you haven't been in the sun a lot or you've been drinking a lot of water and its made your skin look so much brighter and healtier :p
Golden_Girl
Sep 1, 2009, 06:17 PM
just say you havent been in the sun alot or you've been drinking alot of water and its made your skin look so much brighter and healtier :p
Lol... I tried that line a couple of times but it didn't work. They were like, "Uh, no that's not it...you must be putting something else on your skin".
Golden_Girl
Sep 1, 2009, 06:18 PM
Maybe I should just move way up north somewhere and say it's the cool weather and little sun!
weezing
Sep 2, 2009, 03:00 AM
Ummmmmn I told my co workers and friends I put peroxide on my face to lighten acne scars and they believed but they also said I was stupid for doing it lol. I just ignored my family though. My face and neck was sooooo light to the piont I was unrecognizable! A family friend for years didn't even know who I was and he's been a family friend since before I was born he had to get up super close to tell who I was lol my co workers would come up to me and say you look so different I can't put my ginger on it wait wait you look lighter! Lol and they would say things like I forgot what you use to look like. If only bio claire was a safe product..
Golden_Girl
Sep 2, 2009, 05:07 PM
Ummmmmn I told my co workers and friends I put peroxide on my face to lighten acne scars and they believed but they also said I was stupid for doing it lol. I just ignored my family though. My face and neck was sooooo light to the piont I was unrecognizable! A family friend for years didn't even know who I was and he's been a family friend since before I was born he had to get up super close to tell who I was lol my co workers would come up to me and say you look so different I can't put my ginger on it wait wait you look lighter! Lol and they would say things like I forgot what you use to look like. If only bio claire was a safe product..
Lol... how many shades did the bio claire make you? I used to use bio claire too, if it was only safe...
imgorgeous
Sep 3, 2009, 01:48 PM
Golden girl... I'm not kidding.. people are sometimes silly when they refuse to believe htat lifestyle can lighten you significantly...
There was a time at age 18 when I stayed in a hostel, used to bunk college everyday and work in a call center almost everyday... as the shifts were always at night in super cool airconditioning and heavy lighting in the center, I used to rush back to my room in the hostel wihtout realising I wasn't really doing much, drink a glass of milk and wake up late at night again to have my meal and once again rush to work...
I never realised it till my mother one day told me when I got back that I had become as light as I was as a young kid... perhaps I didn't realise because people outside always saw me as a lighter guy anyway.. in asian terms I mean... and no one ever commented... when she said this I actually took notice of how light even my forearms which usually get so tanned because of playing and sun... had gotten... compliments used to adorn me galore... and then when I left the center and thought that's my colour forever, I started going out in the sun playing cricket , tennis and swimming... and presto... my colour started to go a few shades darker again like I started before the call center...
And I didn't use a single thing at that point... well I did use retin a for acne at 16 but at 18 nothing...
So I know for sure that it helps with your lifestyle.. because in those eight months I practically got NO SUN ! Just milk and fresh fruit juices !
Golden_Girl
Sep 3, 2009, 07:21 PM
Maybe if I never went in the sun since the day I was born, but I'm much darker now. Imgorgeous what was your complexion before you started to lighten? If I go back indoors and refused light for 2 years, drank lots of milk (which I don't drink, I drink soymilk) and fruit juices, the lightest I would get now would be less than half a shade, if any. That only works depending on the tone you already have.
MAHARANI
Sep 4, 2009, 08:07 AM
When people start to ask you questions like "why are you so light now?", "what are you using on your skin to look so fair?", "are you bleaching your skin?", etc..
What excuses would you use that you find to be a plausible answer without really spilling the beans? :p
It's a real shame that we have to make up excuses in the first place. You should be able to do what you please without interrogation, unless someone genuinely wants to know so they can try it themselves.
Golden_Girl
Sep 4, 2009, 08:39 PM
I feel I shouldn't have to make up excuses, and feel a bit bad when I do. But, people want to bash me for it and put me down because of it, looking at me as though I committed a murder and rolling their eyes. Yet, they put perm in their hair, so if they choose to openly attack me I'll just retaliate on their choices. So, now I rather say something that I am actually doing, but it doesn't really give me dramatic lightening, and so I leave some information out on what really gives me results.
I did mention to my mom and younger brother of the products that I was using, because they wanted to use some too. For people who want lighter complexion I'll go out of my way to assist, but other than that I keep silent and let them be confused. So, I helped purchase it for them (my mom & bro). But, people who want to judge and ridicule and attack me, I think to myself well it's none of their business because they are not telling me their business either.
Klaas
Sep 5, 2009, 06:45 AM
Hey Golden what products are you using now?
imgorgeous
Sep 5, 2009, 07:06 AM
Golden if you wish to see my pics... let me know... it could give you an idea of my colour...
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nikkicute
Sep 5, 2009, 07:17 AM
A couple years ago when I was using the Hollywood Secret Products cream, this place I was employed, they sent a white co-worker to ask me if I was bleaching my skin! :eek: Can you believe that?
Gossiping about me in the breakroom:mad:
"they said you looked lighter and thought you were bleaching your skin".
I played dumb like oh really? Wow. See I let her do most of the talking and just looked at her, I didn't say much at all. That's how you do it.
I worked there a couple of years using skin lightening products on and off, one time I got a double take, one guy said "you look different, but I can't put my finger on it, another co-worker I have not seen in a while walked past me and said something about " whoa! Got light skinned" I didn't hear all of the what she said but I heard the words light skinned and another one saw me with a bottle of water in my hands and said he could tell I've been drinking a lot of water cause my skin was clear.
Look at LiL Kim!
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You mean to tell me no one said anything to her? Maybe her handlers didn't cause they wanted to keep their jobs but you know others close to her have noticed. Probably just excepted it, she is after all in the entertainment business. She's not the only one, seems like when it comes to black celebrities the bigger they get, the more successful they are, the lighter they become. Ive seen this time and time again.
But you can say you've been giving yourself facials, wearing sunblock cause you don't want to get skin cancer, trying a new makeup line or just act like you didn't notice your skin was getting lighter. The ones who are way nosy probably want to do try it themselves.
If my mother, sister or cousin noticed I was lighter they'd want to know what I was using because they are doing it too. One time when I stopped lightening for a while my mother asked me "why don't you use your cream for your face?" Thanks mom:rolleyes:
Golden_Girl
Sep 5, 2009, 08:04 PM
Klaas right now I'm using a Skin Whitening Super Kit that was sold on Amazon made from Mediderm Rx. So far no luck.
I wonder what Lil' Kim used to get so light? Nikkicute can you tell me more about the Hollywood Secret Products cream, what are the ingredients, and where did you buy? I agree, the ones who are being too nosy probably do want to try it themselves.
fairr
Sep 6, 2009, 01:45 AM
Yes, also could you tell us the shades you went from and too and in how long?
imgorgeous
Sep 6, 2009, 05:23 AM
HOLLYWOOD SECRETS cream??
Lollllllllllllllllllll
No offense... but this sounds like another big SHAM of a product...
I mean doesn't the name itself speak about the desperation of the company to SHINE ?
And the desperation of us lighteners to get light is drawing us into such crap !
BrownDeceit
Sep 6, 2009, 07:54 AM
just say you havent been in the sun alot or you've been drinking alot of water and its made your skin look so much brighter and healtier :p
Fairr. I tried to send you my pics but your inbox is too full. :( message me when it clears out.
nikkicute
Sep 6, 2009, 08:16 AM
Klaas right now I'm using a Skin Whitening Super Kit that was sold on Amazon made from Mediderm Rx. So far no luck.
I wonder what Lil' Kim used to get so light? Nikkicute can you tell me more about the Hollywood Secret Products cream, what are the ingredients, and where did you buy? I agree, the ones who are being too nosy probably do want to try it themselves.
Oh wow that cream is old news! From way way back like 1999/2000.
That's the first time I saw the cream on my friends computer.
When I got my computer a couple years later I remembered the cream and looked them up, their website was gone and then I saw a lightening group talking about the product. That's when I joined my first skin lightening group, the yahoobrighterskin, that was December 2003.
That was the first lightening group I have ever seen, it was nice and weird at the same time because it was the first time meeting and talking to other people who wanted to lighten their skin. I could actually talk about it, thought I was the only one you know what I mean?
Hollywood Secret Products were a bit iffy, didn't answer their phone or e-mails most of the time. But when first seeing the cream on the net and these amazing before and after pictures I requested a brochure and received it a couple days later.
The prices were high so I called and asked a couple questions first and ordered a small jar to see what the cream was all about. I almost spilled the whole thing! When I opened the jar the cream was like a lotion, a very looose lotion. I started using it.
This is what I discovered when using a strong lightening cream, certain parts of the face lighten faster and one of them is the around the mouth (the other area's are lower eyes/uppercheeks area and right above the eyebrows.
Let me tell you something, I looked like a two toned fool!!! LOL!!! Around my mouth was 2 or 3 shades lighter than the rest of my face, like I was eating the stuff. Lol I grabbed some liquid make up at Wal-Mart, didn't even check to see if it matched or not, didn't care at this point, just wanted to cover up the fact that I was not paying attention to how my face was lightening.
It was a good cream but then one day they stopped making it and would get an attitude if someone were to call and ask about it. No one including myself wanted their new lemon lightening cream. Never heard of a lemon cream that lightened the skin.
BrownDeceit
Sep 6, 2009, 08:26 AM
Ughhhhhh. Golden I know exactly what you're going through. I was in such an awkward situation the other day. I went to the store. And the guy working the cash register was flirting with me. Well when I handed him my ID for the purchase. He looked at my picture on my ID card where I was OBVIOUSLY several shades darker. Then looked back at me. Then looked back at the card. Lol. He either probably thought I stole someone's ID OR... That I had bleached the hell out of my skin. Or maybe the picture was just in bad lighting? Lol. Either way. It was an awkward situation. And right now I'm just hoping it hurries up and gets cooler outside. My face, neck, and hands lighten dramatically faster than my arms and legs. So I usually avoid wearing shorts. But I do wear mini skirts often but with sheer black tights so no one can really see the color of my legs. But I feel so weird. My arms are noticeably darker than my face and neck and hands. :(
BrownDeceit
Sep 6, 2009, 08:28 AM
I feel I shouldn't have to make up excuses, and feel a bit bad when I do. But, people want to bash me for it and put me down because of it, looking at me as though I commited a murder and rolling their eyes. Yet, they put perm in their hair, so if they choose to openly attack me I'll just retaliate on their choices. So, now I rather say something that I am actually doing, but it doesn't really give me dramatic lightening, and so I leave some information out on what really gives me results.
I did mention to my mom and younger brother of the products that I was using, because they wanted to use some too. For people who want lighter complexion I'll go out of my way to assist, but other than that I keep silent and let them be confused. So, I helped purchase it for them (my mom & bro). But, people who want to judge and ridicule and attack me, I think to myself well it's none of their business because they are not telling me their business either.
They're jealous. The lighter ones are mad you're catching up to them and reaping the benefits and perks of having lighter skin. And the darker ones are mad you're surpassing them. Just keep it moving and never mind what they say!
Golden_Girl
Sep 6, 2009, 07:44 PM
Well said Brown Deceit, I agree. I was surprised when I had noticed the same, it was a lot for me to digest at once.
fairr
Sep 7, 2009, 08:39 AM
I know I find family are the worse though!
beautifulskin
Sep 7, 2009, 11:51 AM
[QUOTE=Golden_Girl;1966184]Well said Brown Deceit, I agree. I was surprised when I had noticed the same, it was a lot for me to digest at once.[/QUOTE
Goldengirl, it's none of anyone's business you don't have to say anything at all. If a girlfriend or someone asks me what I am using then I tell them because I know that they aren't doing it maliciously. People are scandalous by nature, don't let them bother you though.;)
Golden_Girl
Sep 7, 2009, 10:10 PM
That's true, they'll just have to get over it.. lol
beautifulskin
Sep 8, 2009, 09:24 AM
that's true, they'll just have to get over it..lol
LOL, that's right!:)
so sexy
Sep 8, 2009, 07:02 PM
I agree. My aunt asked me during Thanksgiving but because of the reactions I would probably receive from others I wasn't even honest with her. I knew she wanted to know for her own personal reasons but I still said nothing. I told her I was using a dudu osan soap. I feel bad now just thinking that I wasn't honest with her. Yes I was using that soap but it wasn't for the lightening.
Golden_Girl
Sep 8, 2009, 07:41 PM
Yeah, I understand where your coming from So sexy. A few of my aunts and cousins were asking me what I was using so they can get some too. I just said that I was using black soap, papaya soap, and sunblock which I was also using along with other things. I wouldn't mind mentioning to them the other stuff as well, but I didn't want them gossiping later on either, which I knew they would do. And they would ask in front of other people and starring. I like people just to mind their business, as I'm not a nosy nor a gossiping-type person.
I wish that it was also seen in a light manner such as tanning. But, actually lets say if you happened to have been in the sun too long and now have a tan, people would be like "oh my, how did you get so dark! I remember when you were much lighter before, ypu need to stay out of the sun more"... lol :p
so sexy
Sep 8, 2009, 07:52 PM
Omg that is so true. I had a few family members that asked in front of guest at Thanksgivinng dinner. My reply to them was that "I do live up north now" Crazy because I seem to tan much faster now than when I lived down South.
I'm going to jump in here and say why do you care what other people think about you and/or your color? Your color makes you individual, stand out from the crowd. Why be like everyone else?
The only one who should care about what color you are is you! Take your own preaching (on other threads) to your own heart.
Yes, I am Caucasian, rather I am WHiTE! When asked by my co-workers why I have a graveyard tan" I simply reply that I want healthy skin in my old age. I don't care to get skin cancer," etc.
You are who you are. I always wonder why women of color (beautiful women I may add) want to lose such beautiful complexion and try to blend into the mainstream.
Be happy and healthy in who you are and with who you are. You don't need excuses. You don't need to lighten. You need to learn self confidence. Self confidence does not come in a bottle of lightening cream or pills.
Here is an excerpt from a post that has been deleted that you "preached" to another member who shall remain nameless...
Tell the truth, Jesus would. That which bothers us most about other people is the traits we dislike in ourselves, they say.
Take your own advice to heart.
Golden_Girl
Sep 8, 2009, 09:29 PM
Here is an excerpt from a post that has been deleted that you "preached" to another member who shall remain nameless....
Take your own advice to heart.
Oh J_9... lol!:rolleyes: I see you did not read very carefully.
The comment "Tell the truth, Jesus would. That which bothers us most about other people is the traits we dislike in ourselves, they say." was from a member (who shall remain nameless but I'm sure you know who I'm referring to) who chose to post here several times as she had made several ignorant judgemental comments without thinking twice about her foolish posts. This group is not the religious group, it is the skin lightening group. That comment was addressed to me when I asked this question on this thread, which was not a religious question it was a skin lightening-related question. She as well sent me harassing pm's quoting the same judgemental statements, as I had her reported and blocked... :(
Sorry, but I'm not judgemental, but will put those in their place who wish to judge first along with rude comments without taking a close look at their ownselves. Secondly, I do not "preach", but have no problem reminding them of their faults since they seem so freely to follow me around the board in order to judge me with their rubbish and I have not even spoken to them. I will definitely throw their own words in quotes so they can judge themselves FIRST because I think that type of person is sick-minded.
I noticed that you did not carefully read my posts... hmmm Because IF, and I mean a big IF you did, you would have noticed that I am not Christian, I am Muslim. So why would I mention Jesus (pbuh) with my own words (as I have much respect for him) if I am muslim?? :o No offense to the Christians in this group, but this is a Skin lightening group.
I will be gladly to answer that for you. It is because those were never my words, as they were the other member's who was posting up here and sending me pm and yet turn right around with worst issues than I have? I'm sorry, but some people will not put up with that and I am definitely one of those people that will. Because if someone chooses to sweep my porch without sweeping their own, I will definitely make it known to them and hande them their broom.
I have much respect for all of the Experts here at AMHD. But you must also do your job and clearly understand what you are stating and do thourough research before pointing fingers and trying to take sides, you must show a good example J_9 ;)
So, this is a Skin Lightening Group as I plan to keep it that way... but just to clarify your misconceptions and favoritism with the other "member" before carefully reading, please do not bring those issues in this thread. And if you are trully against judgemental people then you should ask the one who (simonea****) posted that statement along with several other statements that were deleted.
If you are unable to answer the question with your expertise and unable to stay on topic, then it's probably not a good idea on answering ;) .
So, I will answer for you: they were removed from this thread as well as their posts were removed due to harassment. And I also clearly mentioned to them to not pm me anymore and had to have them blocked because until they can fix her own issues, which were quite major as I have read many of them, then they she should worry about herself first. No reason for her to be hypocritical.
If you did carefully read my posts J_9 (in which you chose not to) then you would have easily noticed that I am very supportive and caring towards other people throughout several of the groups. But, for those who wish to have a nasty attitude and try and force me to believe what they believe, stalk and harrass me... then I have no problems reminding them of their own "problems" that they should fix first as I will be gladly to quote their own comments and questions so that they can step aside... I enjoyed answering your question and clarifying things for you.
Golden_Girl
Sep 10, 2009, 07:30 PM
Omg that is so true. I had a few family members that asked in front of guest at Thanksgivinng dinner. My reply to them was that "I do live up north now" Crazy because I seem to tan much faster now than when I lived down South.
Well, it's starting to cool off some but I'm still seriously thinking of moving up north somewhere before the next hot summer.
Nicckicute, did they must have taken the Hollywood Secrets cream off the market now since it can nolonger be found in the search engines. What were the active ingredients?
Golden if you wish to see my pics... lemme know.... it could give you an idea of my colour....
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Imgorgeous you still did not send me any before and after photos, what's up with that :confused:? ...and what does "offline solicitation request removed" exactly mean?
so sexy
Sep 10, 2009, 07:32 PM
Well, it's starting to cool off some but I'm still seriously thinking of moving up north somewhere before the next hot summer.
Nicckicute, did they must have taken the Hollywood Secrets cream off the market now since it can nolonger be found in the search engines. What were the active ingredients?
Imgorgeous you still did not send me any before and after photos, what's up with that :confused:? ...and what does "offline solicitation request removed" exactly mean? He sent me pics he has a very nice tone
Golden_Girl
Sep 10, 2009, 07:45 PM
Thanks So sexy. I haven't heard from him in a few days, so I'm still waiting...
mobster
Sep 10, 2009, 07:59 PM
Hi guys,
Amazing what we all have to go through right.
Just like other people want to tan,
And be darker, some want to be lighter,
One would say, we are all different and unique,
And that's right,
We as humanbeings, are never satisified, with our look,
I feel bad for Michael Jackson, because,
I don't know if he bleached, necessarily, or if it was because of vitiligo.
But what I know, is that in several phonecalls,
His father, called him a big nose,
And Michael is very emotional and sensitive,
He would also call Michael, you are so black,
That I don't think, you belong to our family.
Either way what he did, was what he wanted too,
And when you guys, are concerned, what your family member our your small community of friends would say.
Then think about what MJ had to go through, just to get accepted,
And they gave him the name tag "wacko Jacko"
Anyway, I wish you all happy lightening,
To a response for the "Health Care Expert"
Person, who wanted to speak her mind.
I have one answer for you. "mind your own business"
I am tired of people being put down, just because they want to get lighter,
Why is it a tabu, to get lighter,
But good to get darker come on.
It should work both ways?
But I guess that's how the mainstream is.
lilgreg1
Sep 10, 2009, 08:36 PM
My general assumption is that tanning is not permanent, and uses your natural ability (melanocytes) to darken. It's impossible to lighten your skin however without the use of some form of third party substance, most of which are very strong and dangerous.
Some examples? Mercury, etc. which were used back in the day. They still present a "bad reputation" to most people I assume, especially with the thought of being very toxic.
Golden_Girl
Sep 10, 2009, 08:56 PM
Yes Mobster, it was very sad on how Mj's dad treated him... so verbally and physically abusive. Some people don't know how that can affect a child up into their later years as well. I felt so bad for him as he was a very sensitive and emotional person and people should not have called him wacko jacko. But, many of us seem to treasure him more in death than in life. I mainly feel bad for his children now without their father. I had seen photos of Michael throughout the years of him having vitiligo, and it is also believed that he could have had lupus as well.
I agree Lil'Greg, chemicals such as mercury, steroids, etc are very dangerous when used to lighten skin. Maybe thisis one of the reasons of why society's negative perception with lightening the skin? But, for those to say "why do you want to lighten, I wish I was able to darken" should then be able to understand. Though they are opposite reasons, the purpose is to alter the physical appearance. Including why people dye their hair, plastic surgery, etc... but it seems as though lightening is seen more in a negative light as tanning is praised.
J_9
Sep 11, 2009, 06:06 AM
and what does "offline solicitation request removed" exactly mean?
Offline solicitation is when someone posts asking you to contact them via PM or email. This is prohibited at AMHD so that everyone can benefit from the answers. It is also prohibited because some answers may not be correct and may actually be harmful to your health. All questions and answers are to be posted to the public board for the safety of all members.
nikkicute
Sep 11, 2009, 07:20 AM
Nicckicute, did they must have taken the Hollywood Secrets cream off the market now since it can no longer be found in the search engines.
What were the active ingredients?
I'm not sure what the active ingredients were, that was so long ago.
But it was a nice cream while it lasted.
MAHARANI
Sep 11, 2009, 09:25 AM
My general assumption is that tanning is not permanent, and uses your natural ability (melanocytes) to darken. It's impossible to lighten your skin however without the use of some form of third party substance, most of which are very strong and dangerous.
Some examples? Mercury, etc. which were used back in the day. They still present a "bad reputation" to most people I assume, especially with the thought of being very toxic.
But then we all know the dangers of excessive tanning, where you may bring on skin cancer, but there are people out there who will continue regardless of the dangers, until it becomes an issue. They are giving the warnings, but it isn't a case of why are you tanning and trying to change yourself.
And everyone says you look good with your tan, but where is you look good with your lighter skin colour. Surely we are kind of meeting in the middle.
MAHARANI
Sep 11, 2009, 09:29 AM
I'm not sure what the active ingredients were, that was so long ago.
But it was a nice cream while it lasted.
Isn't it always the way that the good stuff just disappears?
I still miss the old herbalinn. The best cream ever. My skin looked absolutely fantastic when I used it. I actually still have a couple of jars left but am too scared to use it, because I won't be able to maintain the results.
so sexy
Sep 11, 2009, 09:31 AM
isn't it always the way that the good stuff just disappears?
I still miss the old herbalinn. The best cream ever. My skin looked absolutely fantastic when I used it. I actually still have a couple of jars left but am too scared to use it, cos I won't be able to maintain the results.
I know the old one was crap it done nothing for me
MAHARANI
Sep 11, 2009, 10:24 AM
I don't mean the one from salha. It was before her and was brilliant. I don't know of anyone, who it didn't wok for. In fact, when it disappeared, people were trying to obtain samples to try and recreate it and find out what made it so good.
so sexy
Sep 11, 2009, 10:44 AM
I don't mean the one from salha. It was before her and was brilliant. I don't know of anyone, who it didn't wok for. In fact, when it disappeared, people were trying to obtain samples to try and recreate it and find out what made it so good.
I mean the new one was crap (my bad)
lilgreg1
Sep 11, 2009, 02:44 PM
But then we all know the dangers of excessive tanning, where you may bring on skin cancer, but there are people out there who will continue regardless of the dangers, until it becomes an issue. They are giving the warnings, but it isn't a case of why are you tanning and trying to change yourself.
And everyone says you look good with your tan, but where is you look good with your lighter skin colour. Surely we are kinda meeting in the middle.
There are always extremists within every group; and once again, I understand your point of view and conclude that it is all biased. My explanation for people's general bias assumptions are that of natural versus artificial change.
Everyone can tan, and most (if not all) people in their lifetime will become tanned or sunburned. How many people within an ethnic group turn out becoming lighter (naturally without use of third party factors) in terms of shade when compared to shades darkening through tanning? Less than 5-10%.
There's nothing wrong with looking better in a different shade color, and I personally have nothing against it. What I'm trying to explain here is the psychological conclusion skin lightening produces on people who witness other people performing such. It's biased, but it's also how we as humans react.
Oh, and of course, who can forget the "He/she doesn't embrace their natural skin color", or "they do not approve of their own ethnicity". Yes, it's wrong and biased, but you cannot do anything about it. As humans, only people who've experienced something themselves can relate to something and provide explanation or reasoning without psychological fortification.
Golden_Girl
Sep 11, 2009, 07:56 PM
True, it could also be seen as a type of double standard in relation to skin tone and to altering it.
Maharani, what was the difference between the old herbal inn and the new one? I heard there were several going around?
so sexy
Sep 12, 2009, 05:52 AM
Yes I would like to know too, I was so pissed about the new one. It took forever to receive it and no one would ever answer the phone when I would call. I never even finished using the BS.
nikkicute
Sep 12, 2009, 08:44 AM
Whenever I asked any of the old Herbal Inn users what were the ingredients no one knew:confused: I often wondered was it a natural lightener or did it have hydroquinone in it?
I was not around on the lightening boards when the whole Herbal Inn craze was in, I came after, it was already gone (original formula). So I never got to try or see what the cream was about myself.
so sexy
Sep 12, 2009, 12:11 PM
Whenever I asked any of the old Herbal Inn users what were the ingredients no one knew:confused: I often wondered was it a natural lightener or did it have hydroquinone in it?
I was not around on the lightening boards when the whole Herbal Inn craze was in, I came after, it was already gone (original formula). So I never got to try or see what the cream was about myself. I no longer have the bottle. I did have it beneath my bath sink but I've moved so it was tossed. So I don't have the ingredients. I do know that the hype was mainly over the BENZYL ARBUTIN. My bottle and the label even looked cheaply made.
MAHARANI
Sep 12, 2009, 03:49 PM
True, it could also be seen as a type of double standard in relation to skin tone and to altering it.
Maharani, what was the difference between the old herbal inn and the new one? I heard there were several going around?
It just worked 100 %. I have never used something so good and I have tried hundreds of skin lightening products. This was the best.
MAHARANI
Sep 12, 2009, 03:56 PM
Whenever I asked any of the old Herbal Inn users what were the ingredients no one knew:confused: I often wondered was it a natural lightener or did it have hydroquinone in it?
I was not around on the lightening boards when the whole Herbal Inn craze was in, I came after, it was already gone (original formula). So I never got to try or see what the cream was about myself.
I have my doubts that this was an all natural lighterner, but it was marketed as such. From memory they stated B3 or niacinmide as the main active ingredient. I don' t think it had HQ in it, as there was never any browning and it was a milky cream. My skin just looked so healthy when I used it. But once again, the way the cream just disappeared makes me wonder why, especially as it had such wonderful results.
MAHARANI
Sep 12, 2009, 04:01 PM
I no longer have the bottle. I did have it beneath my bath sink but i've moved so it was tossed. So I don't have the ingredients. I do know that the hype was mainly over the BENZYL ARBUTIN. My bottle and the label even looked cheaply made.
The new herbalinn was using the name of the old herbalinn because it knew that there were so many satisfied customers with the old version and everyone was desperate to get hold of the original product.
Golden_Girl
Sep 12, 2009, 04:27 PM
Wow, I see. About a month back I was trying to figure out more about this benzyl arbutin and of it really lightens. So, I had emailed several U.S. manufacturers and asked them did they carry benzil arbutin and what it was exactly. None of them were able to explain because they said they never even heard of it. Because I thought if this was a real lightener maybe I could at least get my hands on it and mix it in my lotion.
Herbal inn calls it "Aromatized Arctostaphylos" which I found no results, so it must be just a made up name they created. I know that "Arctostaphylos Uva-Ursi" is bearberry leaf extract which is something different from what their referring to and this is a skin lightener. Other common names for Bearberry are Bearberry, Kinnikinick, Mealberry, Hog Cranberry, and Sandberry.
I do know that Niacinamide (vit. B3) can help the lightening process a little especially along with more potent lighteners, but it is not able to lighten dramatically. So, my guess is that this new herbal inn takes some parts of truth and mix it with false claims in order to sell. There must have been something else in it that made it work before that they probably weren't allowed to use?
so sexy
Sep 12, 2009, 07:03 PM
wow, I see. About a month back I was trying to figure out more about this benzyl arbutin and of it really lightens. So, I had emailed several U.S. manufacturers and asked them did they carry benzil arbutin and what it was exactly. None of them were able to explain because they said they never even heard of it. Because I thought if this was a real lightener maybe I could at least get my hands on it and mix it in my lotion.
Herbal inn calls it "Aromatized Arctostaphylos" which I found no results, so it must be just a made up name they created. I know that "Arctostaphylos Uva-Ursi" is bearberry leaf extract which is something different from what their referring to and this is a skin lightener. Other common names for Bearberry are Bearberry, Kinnikinick, Mealberry, Hog Cranberry, and Sandberry.
I do know that Niacinamide (vit. B3) can help the lightening process a little especially along with more potent lighteners, but it is not able to lighten dramatically. So, my guess is that this new herbal inn takes some parts of truth and mix it with false claims in order to sell. There must have been something else in it that made it work before that they probably werent allowed to use? Yes I heard the same that it was something that no one has heard of.
imgorgeous
Oct 3, 2009, 08:08 AM
Hey golden girl.. I don't mind sending yo my pics at all.. because a couple of people on this forum have..
Offline solicitation is some warning given to me by the askmehelpdesk which discourages me from possibly speaking to you off this forum.. I have received an infraction for it and can't risk to get another one..
The forum is simply too helpful to lose my ability to come back to it.
Golden_Girl
Oct 3, 2009, 10:48 AM
Why not post part of your picts here in a post, not the whole photos, but partial.
cutenose
Oct 6, 2009, 08:18 AM
Ughhhhhh. Golden I know exactly what you're going through. I was in such an awkward situation the other day. I went to the store. And the guy working the cash register was flirting with me. Well when I handed him my ID for the purchase. He looked at my picture on my ID card where I was OBVIOUSLY several shades darker. Then looked back at me. Then looked back at the card. Lol. He either probably thought I stole someone's ID OR.... That I had bleached the hell out of my skin. Or maybe the picture was just in bad lighting? Lol. Either way. It was an awkward situation. And right now I'm just hoping it hurries up and gets cooler outside. My face, neck, and hands lighten dramatically faster than my arms and legs. So I usually avoid wearing shorts. But I do wear mini skirts often but with sheer black tights so no one can really see the color of my legs. But I feel so weird. My arms are noticeably darker than my face and neck and hands. :(
Hey Brown deceit:)
What product are you using on your face? Did it really lighten you so many shades? Hw long did it take to see results?
Thanks;)
BrownDeceit
Oct 6, 2009, 08:28 AM
I used Christaline. There are several threads where I am discussing this. Before you ask a question, search around on the board first. Everyone is talking about Christaline and I've even made 2 threads about it. It's not that hard to find. If you don't use the forum that often I understand, but now you know.
cutenose
Oct 6, 2009, 09:20 AM
I used Christaline. There are several threads where I am discussing this. Before you ask a question, search around on the board first. Everyone is talking about Christaline and I've even made 2 threads about it. It's not that hard to find. If you don't use the forum that often I understand, but now you know.
Thank u for replying:)
But there is no Christaline only crystalline cream, is it the same thing?
Where do u buy it from? Onlyn? Hw much is it?
Here's a link I found:
Carita Ideal White Crystalline Night Cream 50ml/1.69fl.oz. (http://www.ievecare.com/8958.html)
EggoMini
Oct 9, 2009, 07:23 PM
When people start to ask you questions like "why are you so light now?", "what are you using on your skin to look so fair?", "are you bleaching your skin?", etc..
What excuses would you use that you find to be a plausible answer without really spilling the beans? :p
I had that happen when I went to college(uni was in a long, dark, wintry area). I just laughed at the person.
If they're crazy enough to mention it, I guess you can tell them that you're taking care of your skin, going to a derma doc, have a different diet?
I've also had people gasp over my tans. I'd never comment on a persons color. I'd say they look great or whatever but not get so personal and specific.
Golden_Girl
Oct 9, 2009, 11:00 PM
Lol... I tried saying the same thing for awhile until I guess until I was getting too light and my cousins and aunts were like, no your using way more than that. But, next time I'll probably say Ive been getting chemical peels for my spots. Either way I'll get heat from them. I have been thinking of relocating a bit north to help avoid the burning summers of the south.