PDA

View Full Version : Is metathaione is best glutathione to take?


jessie cook
Aug 28, 2009, 07:26 PM
Is metathaione is best glutathione to take?

lilgreg1
Aug 29, 2009, 03:31 PM
I think there's enough scientific evidence to prove that glutathione pills or other digested supplements are useless. Your body does not absorb glutathione in the manner than it should be used; it produces it's own, and the target is therefore increasing your body's natural production of glutathione.

(E.g. natural protein powders and whey's often contain refined amino acids that increase this output of antioxidants including glutathione.)

Direct skin contact of course, is another story, but also doesn't have sufficient evidence.

Golden_Girl
Aug 29, 2009, 07:29 PM
Do you think glutathione soaps work because of the glutathione that is used to be in the soap, or other lightening ingredients that aren't mentioned. Because early this year I was using the Diana Stalder glutathione soap, and it did not lighten as it was portrayed to do. I read many positive reviews from people using the sw+ss glutathione soap, but I am thinking that it helps lighten because of possibly other lightening ingredients added. My reasons for this is because it's known that it takes large amounts of l-glutathione in the body in order to cause the side effect of lightened skin. So, now I'm thinking how can a glutathione soap bar lighten the skin a couple of weeks later? Then the medical field would also have glutathione soap bars for patients who are diagnosed with cancer, HIV, etc.. Which I doubt is possible, only through the veins, correct? Just my theory. Maybe there will be other ways of increasing glutathione levels significantly, such as the amino acids. But, for the many bodybuilders who dedicate their lives on drinking protein shakes that contain whey, I never noticed them getting lighter. Maybe there's another way?

lilgreg1
Aug 30, 2009, 12:28 PM
I have no experience with Glutathione soap, etc. but according to scientific research, it helps with the detoxifying process. Assuming that your skin absorbs it correctly, it may slow down the oxidization process for melanin. As for the digestion theory, Glutathione is an anti-oxidant, so people automatically assume that it will make you healthier (which it will) and thus even out your complexion if not make you lighter. It's very possible that glutathione soaps only have a small amount of pure glutathione, and use other lighteners as a majority.

As for protein shakes and whey, they contain a compound called gamma-glutamylcysteine which increases glutathione, which some say help with libido and gives you a general energy boost. (Great for athletes and body builders.)

Anyhow, I'd have to say that glutathione's effectiveness is understudied at the moment, so I can't give a reasonable explanation as to why some people claim they work while other's say (such as the body builder example) they don't. I know for a fact it's good for your health and overall well being however. (And may improve skin tone a bit just as all good diets do.)

Golden_Girl
Aug 31, 2009, 03:26 PM
The glutathione soap that I used proved ineffective, possibly low amounts of glutathione then. A year and half ago when I was working at the gym, I drank lots of protein shakes that contained high amounts of whey. I received advice from trainers and body builders to help tone more. I never noticed any lightening at all, as I was drinking them for about 5 months. I was oblivious to glutathione and gamma-glutamylcysteine at the time and did not know what else it could be used for.

lilgreg1
Aug 31, 2009, 03:50 PM
Yep, I personally work out, and actually use a brand of whey protein from GNC that boosts glutathione production by about 1350mg.

It's pretty hard to tell whether it's affecting my skin as I use other products as well.

Golden_Girl
Aug 31, 2009, 04:08 PM
I think it could most likely come from the topical natural lighteners that you are using. How many shades have you lightened in total? Have you started using your mono formula yet?

lilgreg1
Aug 31, 2009, 04:18 PM
So far 2 shades; though I began using the special mono dilute a few days ago. Seems to be going well as I alternate, take breaks, etc.

The monobenzone is actually pretty slow since I'm using 4-5%, but it's much safer than 20%. (I actually tried about half a teaspoon across both arms and legs, and it gave me a instant lighter complexion, with lighter dots around the area, which is a sign for instability.)

Golden_Girl
Sep 1, 2009, 07:25 PM
That's true, much safer than the 20% mono. Oh yeah, I had forgotton that quick that I already asked you that question about the shades. Well, I hope you are able to find a way to stablize your lightening, 4-5% is probably best then, as it may even give you a much more natural lightening appearance.

syrupforyou
Sep 3, 2009, 01:31 PM
I have tried metathione before but the effect is very slow. I'm now using beauoxi white glutathione 5in1 and angel night cream and I'm very happy with the results. No exaggeration but with angel night cream, I experience lightening results in as early as 1 week. I think for creams or soap, I would suggest those with kojic , vitamin c and arbutin because glutathione is not effective skin whitener is in topical form. With Beauoxi white glutathione, I noticed whole body whitening after the first month. I'm on my 6th month now and I'm a lot lighter already. My skin is clearer and rosy.

Golden_Girl
Sep 3, 2009, 08:12 PM
It has been scientifically proven that glutathione is not properly absorbed through the GI tract when taken orally. It would need to be administered directly into the bloodstream, this is what the doctors perform with their patients. Any glutathione pills or sprays is a hoax and are out to steal people's money, those companies are playing a game that is already lost to them because their magical claims are scientifically proven as false. They just want to see their wonder pills to get rich.

"Supplementing has been difficult, as research suggests that glutathione taken orally is not well absorbed across the GI tract. In a study of acute oral administration of a very large dose (3 grams) of oral glutathione, Witschi and coworkers found that "it is not possible to increase circulating glutathione to a clinically beneficial extent by the oral administration of a single dose of 3 g of glutathione."
Glutathione - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutathione)

"The basal concentrations of glutathione, cysteine, and glutamate in plasma were 6.2, 8.3, and 54 mol·l–1 respectively. During the 270 min after the administration of glutathione in a dose of 0.15 mmol·kg–1 the concentrations of glutathione, cysteine, and glutamate in plasma did not increase significantly, suggesting that the systemic availability of glutathione is negligible in man. Because of hydrolysis of glutathione by intestinal and hepatic -glutamyltransferase, dietary glutathione is not a major determinant of circulating glutathione, and it is not possible to increase circulating glutathione to a clinically beneficial extent by the oral administration of a single dose of 3 g of glutathione."
SpringerLink - Journal Article (http://www.springerlink.com/content/051307ur34175737/)
http://www.springerlink.com/content/051307ur34175737/fulltext.pdf?page=1

And there are so many other research articles that have proven this to be false. Possibly if you are getting any lightening it may be from the Angel night cream. Can you tell me the ingredients in the Angel Night Cream? If it's the "Angel Placenta Whitening Night Cream" this is what was posted on their Magic Potions site: This product contains natural Placenta CBC, Arbutin Essence, Refined Pearl Powder, Natural Whitening Factors, Bone Collagen Protein, Vitamin E and Vitamin C.

Sounds interesting, but I doubt I could ever work up the nerve to rub animal placenta and bone collagen protein from animals on my skin... it sounds sad :(

Golden_Girl
Sep 3, 2009, 08:53 PM
:p
I have tried metathione before but the effect is very slow. im now using beauoxi white glutathione 5in1 and angel night cream and im very happy with the results. no exaggeration but with angel night cream, i experience lightening results in as early as 1 week. i think for creams or soap, i would suggest those with kojic , vitamin c and arbutin because glutathione is not effective skin whitener is in topical form. with Beauoxi white glutathione, i noticed whole body whitening after the first month. im on my 6th month now and im a lot lighter already. my skin is clearer and rosy.

Wow, Syrupforyou you sure work hard for your money honey :D!

Oh yeah... also are you still promoting how your she-friend lost 25 lbs. in 2 months, and then she lost 20 lbs in 1 month.. and also your he-friend lost 15 lbs in 1 month? Wow, I never knew anyone could lose 25 lbs and then 20 separate lbs at the same time? Or are these 2 separate friends? And what about your he-friend? They lost so much weight and so fast all from trying Slimina weight loss pills ALSO SOLD FROM Magic Potions/Skin Lightening Experts

Can you explain, what's the reason for Magic Potions and Skin Whitening Experts to be the same company, quite identical sites, and same products? :confused: Do they ever get mixed up with their companies? How many other sites do they have total?
http://www.magic-potions.com/ MagicPotions Beauty Shop Whitening Pills

http://www.skinwhiteningexperts.com/ Magic Potions | Skin Whitening Experts | Skin Lightening Products

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/weight-loss/have-you-heard-slimina-diet-pill-349562.html#post1711169... an someone also questioned your intentions on #post 7 (Magic Potions perhaps?)

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/fitness/lose-tons-weight-329212.html#post1614245
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/weight-loss/have-you-heard-slimina-diet-pill-349562.html#post1711189

Oh and I really like this one!
"try Slimina weight loss capsule. my friend used it and she lose 20 lbs in 1 month safely. try it too."
Ask Me Help Desk - View Single Post - Need to lose tons of weight (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/1614245-post2.html)


You sure love your Magic "Potions" products... *cough*

;)

Golden_Girl
Sep 5, 2009, 08:07 PM
Yeah I knew you were another seller Syrupforyou and just full of it.

LivingWell 4U
Sep 6, 2009, 10:21 AM
Jessie;

The best ways to raise glutathione are to take the precursors for it. Dr. Jimmy Gutman, world expert on the subject of glutathione, lists all of the medically researched and proven ways to raise glutathione in your cells in his book, "Glutathione- Your Key To Health".

Metathaione is not mentioned in this list, but Methionine or L- Methionine is. For the best way to raise glutathione, the two best studied ways to raise glutathione are the pharmaceutical drug N Acetyl-Cysteine, as is found in Max GXL, and bonded cysteine, as is found in Immunocal.

I have written an educational website on the topic of glutathione and boosting immunity, and you can find a description of all of these ways to raise glutathione <a href="http://www.immune-health-solutions-for-you.com/how-to-raise-glutathione.html">here.</a>