Hello Christians:

I've been reading the thread about some date that's rapidly approaching, when the earth will end, or something like that... The people engaged in that thread actually believe it.

I suppose, if you believe in your religion, that would be something you'd think... My question is, and I mean no disrespect, how do you deal with your day to day life KNOWING there's only a few days left??

I cannot imagine waking up each day knowing I had only a few mornings left. Do you REALLY believe that this upcoming date is it, or is it just some undetermined time wayyyy down the road?

But, I'm interested in hearing from those of you who think there's only weeks left.

excon

Hey Ex what post are your reading that the end of the world is coming in a few weeks. I would like to read that. Thanks

Hello spit:

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/christianity/prophetic-message-about-us-388400.html

excon

Thank you Sir!

Exy, this is nothing new.

According to Christians the world should have ended many times already. Then, when it doesn't happen they claim that they translated the bible verse wrong, etc. etc.

It gets old after a while. Heck, it was old the first time.

Wasn't there a thread last year about the world ending because of Cern? A lot of Christians claimed that the bible said that it would happen.

There was so much hype, some people really believed it was the end. The day came and went and now they need to pick another day, because they got it wrong.

Will the world end one day? I don't know, and I don't believe anyone else does either.

When it happens it happens, and I plan to be having sex when it does. :)

Exy, this is nothing new.

According to Christians the world should have ended many times already. Then, when it doesn't happen they claim that they translated the bible verse wrong, etc. etc.

It gets old after a while. Heck, it was old the first time.

Wasn't there a thread last year about the world ending because of Cern? A lot of Christians claimed that the bible said that it would happen.

There was so much hype, some people really believed it was the end. The day came and went and now they need to pick another day, because they got it wrong.

Will the world end one day? I don't know, and I don't believe anyone else does either.

When it happens it happens, and I plan to be having sex when it does. :)

Yep. This kind of talk has been going on as long as there have been Christians. It never happens when they predict it will, and then they assign a new date... and a new date... ad nauseum.

I am a Christian.

If a Christian goes by the bible. NO ONE KNOWS THE END. THE LAST DAY. NOT EVEN THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN OR JESUS HIMSELF KNOWS THE DAY.

Okay, just had to say that.

Yes, like others have said. Many religious leaders have claimed to know the end, or last days. Every time they were wrong.

My take is that those who want to believe that the end is soon are having a crappy life and are too lazy to fix it.

My take is that those who want to believe that the end is soon are having a crappy life and are too lazy to fix it.

Very good NeedKarma, I agree with you. Joe, Clapping. Wish I could give you a 100 green stars.

Wasn't there a verse that said "no man shall know..."? The bad part about these charismatic or gimmick preachers is the harm they do to the credibility of the truly good.

Having said that..
Does anyone agree we are living in some perilus times,that go against history
Sure there has been doomsday callers for a long time but things are looking good for a calamity in our future

Does anyone agree we are living in some perilus times,that go against history
Nope, I don't agree. Can you define how something can "go against history"? How can something go with history?

Unprecedented rise in disease,weather
There's more

unprecedented rise in diseaseHow come the world didn't end with the Black Plague?

Ex,

I do not believe that any man knows the day or the hour of when the 7 year tribulation period will began. ( because Jesus himself said that) But he also said we could KNOW when it was about to occur... because it will be like in the days of Noah. The Bible records that man thought continually on evil.. day and night in those days.

Do I believe the antiChrist is alive and well on plantet earth? I DO! Do I worry that the earth will no longer be anytime soon? Naaah. The Bible says after this guy (the beast or anti Christ) signs a 7 year peace treaty with Israel is when the 7 year tribulation period starts. It also states there has never been a time like it nor will there ever BE another time. After the 7 years the Lord Himself will come down and put his feet on the Mount of Olives and split it into... and he will deal the anti christ and the false prophet ( not going to be pretty). He will rule and reign for 1000 years... on earth. It will be a restored back to the garden of eden.. in that the Lion will lay down with the lamb.

So do I worry about the horror to come on this planet. No I don't worry. I know the end.. I know that just before the tribulation I will be raptured out of here but Honestly? I just am concerned for those who are blinded and think all of this is foolish. That is my biggest concern... reaching the UNbeliever so they don't have to endure the wrath that really is coming.

Hello T:

Thanks. I can see how being raptured out of here BEFORE the big event would make the end times easier to contemplate...

excon

Ex,

Hey, it is a choice. I choose to be part of the bride of Christ... you interested?

Ex,

hey, it is a choice. I choose to be part of the bride of Christ....you interested?Hello again, T:

Nahhh. I LIKE being what I am.


Ex

Okie dokie Steve,

The great thing about my Jesus is he will NEVER force you to believe... it is always about faith and free will. I don't take lightly the people that are left behind either... but all I can do is point people in the right direction and leave everything else up to God. There is a verse in the bible that I cling to in any situation that causes me to have fear ( fear of the future, fear of the past, whatever kind of fear)

He has not given us a spirit of fear but of Love, Power and a sound mind.2 Timothy 1:7


Therefore as a Christian, I put my faith and trust in the Lord. And I get up believing He is in control and everything is going to be all right.

So anyway I hope I answered your questions... as a Christian. :)

So anyway I hope I answered your questions....as a Christian. :)Hello again, T:

You did... And, I know you proselytized me because you care about me. For that, I'm grateful.

Steve

My belief is different I believe god made the beautiful globe for a purpose and he will fulfill that purpose one day it says
"he will bring to ruin those ruining the earth"
I don't want to go to heaven annd be a angel I would much rather live right here on a clean disese free planet
That is why I have NEVER felt the threat of a global nuclear attack he will not allow it
That is when he will step in

Great post, Classy.

I don't know what others think, but I'm not basing my expectations on some Mayan calendar, or time lines from some old book, not even the Bible. Now don't get upset. If the timeline was there, certainly Jesus would have known it, right?

I base my expectations of what will happen on coming events, interpreted by the Scriptures.

Example: Both Daniel and John were given visions of a "Little Horn". (Anti-Christ). Daniel saw him coming from one of the divisions of the old Grecian Empire. He also saw him coming from the 4th beast, unknown by name to Daniel, but known to us (and John) as Rome.

John saw a "beast" with 7 heads and 10 horns, and then a "little horn" roots out 3 of the 10 horns and assumes power over the government/coalition that will be the final world power that will opress Israel in the "times of the Gentiles".

You see, John saw the entire "times of the Gentiles" starting with Egypt, then Assyria, Babylon, Greece, Rome, the future 10 government alliance, and finally by the Anti-Christ. Daniel saw the same sequence, only starting with Babylon.

When we see 10 nations that were within the boundaries of the Greek Empire and Rome come together in an alliance, the next major occourance will be the rise of a consummate politician who will be able to gain the backing of the Muslim world and also the confidence of Israel. Then the treaty will be made that Anti-Christ will break after 3 1/2 years. I suspect that those 10 nations will all be Islamic.

It will not signal the end of the world, only the end of the Church age and after the 7 year Tribulation, the Millennium when Jesus Christ will reign unchallenged and the saints will work in the administration of affairs on Earth.

Make your application for a job in the Millennium early.

Hi Ex.

I like your threads.

Well I don't think the world is coming to an end in 2012 or whatever other time it will be.

I watched the movie Zeigeist, not sure if you did.
Zeitgeist, The Movie - Remastered / Final Edition (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197)

In that video it talks about the end times. It made sense to me.

To be honest, I am not sure what to believe but the last thing I want to do is to be trapped in some religion. I have my own morals. I know not to kill a person... no matter how angry they make me-- ahem.

Back to the subject:

Will there be an end time-- well by the looks of the gaping ozone layer and this whole global warming stuff, I say yeah.

Also, doesn't the sun last for 10 billion years-- eek. What will we ever do when it burns out. Oh yeah, die.

Sarah

I remember there being a website where the closeness to rapture was tracked by looking at world events and corresponding them to the warning signs in the bible. Does anyone know where that was? It was really interesting.

But that would only work from the popularity of the web circa 1995 and on. I'm quite certain this end-of-times talk has gone on for much longer than that.

I wish I had a good joke here, but I don't. I am a Catholic and my Husband is Jewish (he will be going to Hell, of course) LOL in case no one got that.:)

We are attempting to live our lives as much as possible. We are not thinking about pending doom, or dwelling on it. It sounds like the Christians are doing the same thing, but still thinking about it.

I do NOT mean that disrespectfully. I'm just listening to what has been written.

I was born a Catholic (my Mother 'of course') than raised 5 years Babtist, 3 years Protestant and then went on to learn what I could about the Jewish religion, this was all before I was 15 years old. I respect it all and understand some.

But I will never believe that someone can tell me Tuesday will never come again:)

Again I have no spell check and it's pissing me off!:mad:

But that would only work from the popularity of the web circa 1995 and on. I'm quite certain this end-of-times talk has gone on for much longer than that.

End time - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_time)
Not the best for information,but it gives a list of end time predictions by different religious groups.

End times are not just a Christian belief,it is a belief by all the monotheistic faiths and other predictions have been found in different ancient calendars too.


Here is another site with end of the world signs.
Nostradamus prophecy end of world date forecast prediction the end is nigh dates predict guess when will world end (http://www.weird-websites.com/justweird/endofworld.htm)

Cool, I learned a new word: eschatology - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/eschatology)

Hi ex... as previous posts have said, this date has been predicted, over and over.

The truth is no one knows...

I basically disagree with JesusHelper saying we can not know the end times, the Bible says you can not know the exact date but you can know the time and the season meaning when we ARE in the end times we will know it. Non believers will refuse to believe it though no matter how bad it is and how exact the Bible has predicted it.
People who have predicted they were in the end times in the past did it without lining up all the Biblical prophecies.
Everything IS lined up now.
BUT, as for my comments, I have not said when the end as in the last day will be, but rather that we are in the beginning of the end times. But with the end times we can come up with an approximate idea of the 'last days'

I find this very interesting from the little I have watched so far

YouTube - Manna Fest 314 Mysteries Reserved For the time of the end 1 of 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soPHPerr4rw)

YouTube - Manna Fest 412 Strange Cosmic Signs from 2012-2015 3 of 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFih-gW5LE0&feature=PlayList&p=94146EF9E3A93E17&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=135)

Basically disagree with Jesushelper?

It is not me your disagreeing with? Lol It is The Bible and God.

Anyway,

I am a Christian.

If a Christian goes by the bible. NO ONE KNOWS THE END. THE LAST DAY. NOT EVEN THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN OR JESUS HIMSELF KNOWS THE DAY.

Okay, just had to say that.

Yes, like others have said. Many religious leaders have claimed to know the end, or last days. Each and every time they were wrong.

Exactly my friend! If Jesus does not know,who are we?

I just watched the history channels "Antichrist" last night on line... Snore.

There was very little I did not know and what I learned was for the most part how the coming of the Antichrist has been written for ages and every age believed it was their time,according to the signs of the time.

There was some very interesting points and it was a good documentary but some of it was very repetitive.

I love the History Channel!

Then What does Matthew 24 mean when it says to watch the time and the season and be prepared.

The Bible DOES make it clear we will know when we are in the end times. We just won't know the exact hour of his return.

So the end of times could last 5,000 years?

No it doesn't last 5,000 years.
We are only nearing the end times now.
The Bible says that there will be many anti christs and rumors of the end before the actual end times and the actual end time anti christ. The Bible says the end can't begin until some time after Israel is made a nation and the fig tree blooms which proves that the claims prior to 1948 were rumors.
That is just one of many examples of how things have not been lined up for end time Revelation to have begun yet.
We are on the cusp of the beginning of the end times.
I think the anti christ is suppose to be something like 3 1/2 or 7 yrs.
When it is mandatory that we are chipped with the RFID chips we will be into the actual end times.

Here is a link of Bible verses that show what things have to be happening and working together
http://www.raptureforums.com/Signs/50reasons.cfm

So the end of times could last 5,000 years?

If you look at biblical history and read into the end of times for different peoples you will see that it DOES last for some I.E. soddom & gomorah,noahs time etc. each example shows a warning time and then a destruction.
5000 yrs?if that's your time frame.
I say we have been living in the time of the end for this system of things since the early 1900's
This will only mean anything to you if you believe in the bible

I do believe that we are closer to the End times than we were, say a few hundred years ago, but I don't believe anyone knows the exact time of the Hour.

I also do believe in there being signs of the end,but as history has shown we have seen (well not literally us,but the world) similar tribulations faced at different times,yet the world did not end during or after those tribulations.

Now, for being a global village, every tribulation faced by one nation affects people across the globe.Like the recession in America affects the Asian region because we are connected. The same way, we see the tribulations as being more closer to home and heart.

We have to also understand that the world is overpopulated, resources are not enough, our natural world is at peril,ozone layer is being affected,
The poor get poorer, diseases in the third world,whatever medications are available not affordable to them,
Endless wars,every other country fighting their neighbor,
Etc just a few things that comes to mind.

There we see parts of the prophecy regarding end times that there will be chaos in the world before the end times, disease, rampant killings,famine,natural disasters on the rise.

I also do see some signs which we believe in ,but we have specific signs or major signs as we call them and the world will not end before that.
I will also say that there is every possibility that this generation of people alive at this moment may not see the end of the world.
Our own deaths maybe closer than the end of times.

Exactly firmbeliever.
All these things add up and equal we are living in the approaching end times.

Hello again:

End, schmend... Don't go... Who're we going to sell our schlock to?

excon

this will only mean anything to you if you believe in the bible
Whew, then I'm safe then.

Roflmasof.

I do believe that we are closer to the End times than we were, say a few hundred years ago,

Find a time in history where man did not believe the very same thing you are saying.

I explained that all ready,
The Bible says that people through history will believe they are in the end times
BUT the end times can not happen until everything is lined up. Everything was not lined up then... IT IS NOW.

I explained that all ready,
The Bible says that people through history will believe they are in the end times
BUT the end times can not happen until everything is lined up. Everything was not lined up then........IT IS NOW.

The day has come the walrus said, ah, that is another tale. Yes tomorrow the mad madhi will appear and ride into Jerusalem on his camel and all shall know the end has come.

Hello again:

End, schmend.... Don't go... Who're we gonna sell our schlock to?

excon

I have too much to sell and there's not enough time:eek:

Well, I posted this before, but the next signpost to the end of this age (not the world)is the formation of a 10 nation coalition from inside what was the Roman Empire.

I know that this is a bit off topic, but I would like to point out one little fact that has always puzzled me about the "end of days" discussions.

While there are some Christians who seem to be trying to track the "end of days" and are counting down the days left of life on Earth, Judaism tends to take a different tac. We try to follow the number of days left and track the calendar until the Coming of Messiah and the beginning of a new era of Peace, Holiness, Celebration, and Connection to G-d.

One group is trying to track the END of the world, the other is tracking the BEGINNING of a New Era of Hope. One is hunting for death, the other is hunting for life.

Why the fundamental difference between these two philosophies?

Elliot

I know that this is a bit off topic, but I would like to point out one little fact that has always puzzled me about the "end of days" discussions.

While there are some Christians who seem to be trying to track the "end of days" and are counting down the days left of life on Earth, Judaism tends to take a different tac. We try to follow the number of days left and track the calendar until the Coming of Messiah and the beginning of a new era of Peace, Holiness, Celebration, and Connection to G-d.

One group is trying to track the END of the world, the other is tracking the BEGINNING of a New Era of Hope. One is hunting for death, the other is hunting for life.

Why the fundamental difference between these two philosophies?

Elliot

Not so, Elliot.

We Christians are looking for the end of the age of human government and the RETURN of Messiah.

I know that you don't believe that Jesus IS your Messiah, but hopefully, you will soon come to that realization.

So you see, we aren't looking for death, but LIFE, just as you are. Our goals are just the same.

Thank you for bringing this up.

I know that this is a bit off topic, but I would like to point out one little fact that has always puzzled me about the "end of days" discussions.

While there are some Christians who seem to be trying to track the "end of days" and are counting down the days left of life on Earth, Judaism tends to take a different tac. We try to follow the number of days left and track the calendar until the Coming of Messiah and the beginning of a new era of Peace, Holiness, Celebration, and Connection to G-d.

One group is trying to track the END of the world, the other is tracking the BEGINNING of a New Era of Hope. One is hunting for death, the other is hunting for life.

Why the fundamental difference between these two philosophies?

Elliot

I don't really see the difference. In the sense that we are looking to the end when Jesus' second coming which to the Jew will be the first coming. We look forward to the second coming which will be the end as we know it... no more pain and suffering.

We are all living in end times because our days are numbered.When we die there
Is no more time we will be in eternity.
Rev. 3:10 & 11, "Because you have patiently obeyed Me despite the persrcution,
therefor I will protect you from the time of Great Tribulation and temptation, which will come upon the world to test everyone alive. Look I am coming soon! Hold tightly to the little strength you have-- so that no one will take away your crown."

Rev. 22:12 See, I am coming soon, and my reward is with me, to repay everone according to the deeds he has done. 13. I am the A an the Z, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last. 14 Blessed forever are all who are washing their robes, to have the right to enter though the gates of the city, and to eat the fruit from the Tree of Life.
"Outside the city are those who strayed away from God, and the sorcerers and the
immoral and murderers and idolaters, and all who love to lie, and do so."

The Lord coming can be any day, tomorrow, the day after or right now!
Wake up!

Maggie 3

Hello M:

Go preach to somebody who cares!

excon

People who call themselves christian but try to predict the end times are foolish and obviously haven't read the bible. According to scripture only God knows when he's going to allow the earth to be destroyed... we don't we can't even guess. It's actually a joy to think about the end of days cause I won't be here... I'll be in heaven with God like he's promised. The apostle paul said "to live is christ and to die is gain"so the rapture for christians is the most AMAZING thing that could happen way better than death... for the lost world it would be something to fret about because they just don't see it coming.

Saph and Gal,

I accept the correction.

Elliot

I do believe that we are closer to the End times than we were, say a few hundred years ago...

That would seem to be a matter of logic.

If you believe that an event or set of events called "End of Times" must occur, and if that event or set of events has not yet occurred, then you are AUTOMATICALLY closer to it today than you were several hundred years ago.

Given entropy, we are closer to the end of the universe than we were several. Hundred years ago too.

We are, in fact, closer today to EVERY EVENT that has not yet occurred than we were several hundred years ago.

I'm not sure that that constitutes a logical basis for the existence of an "end of times" as described in Christian theology, or "the Geulah" (lit: "The Redemption" in Hebrew) as described in Jewish theology.

I can tell you that in Jewish history there have been a number of times when the Geulah was predicted to occur. In several cases, lots of people hung their hats on those predictions of a date-certain for the Geulah, and when those predictions didn't come to pass, it caused all sorts of trouble... including crises of faith, rebellion, war, and other suffering.

The general belief among Orthodox Jews these days is that there WILL be a Geulah... but as for when and how, we leave that up to G-d. We don't generally try to predict a date anymore, and such predictions are somewhat discouraged (though not particularly strongly).

From our perspective, if we are doing what we are supposed to as good people and good Jews (as that is the perspective from which I speak), G-d will let us know in his own way and in his own time where we need to be to meet and greet the Messiah and start the Geulah. If we are do the right thing ALL THE TIME (within our limited abilities as human beings, of course) we don't need to worry about the timing of the Geulah, because we'll ALWAYS be ready. We don't need to predict it to be a part of it. We just need to follow G-d's Law to the best of our personal abilities. So such predictions are a very low-priority item of theological speculation within Orthodox Judaism.

If you start from the pespective of trying to do the right thing all the time and follow the boyscout motto of "always be prepared" in the spiritual sense, regardless of timing, then "being ready" is no longer a matter of predicting the future. It becomes a matter of living life to the best of your ability in the present.

Just a thought from an outside perspective.

Elliot

If you start from the pespective of trying to do the right thing all the time and follow the boyscout motto of "always be prepared" in the spiritual sense, regardless of timing, then "being ready" is no longer a matter of predicting the future. It becomes a matter of living life to the best of your ability in the present.

Just a thought from an outside perspective.

Elliot

This is so true.

If we are living the best all the time (as you said as humanly possible), there is no need for worrying about predicting an event that we know will occur when it has to.

Mine was an outside perspective too, considering this question was aimed at Christians.:)

There are many who think that they can tell when it is coming but nobody actually does. I think I'll just throw this out here. You see the bible says that when Jesus takes his church of real believers on earth then there will be a time, and a time, and a time, and a half of tribulation for those left behind some have said that because of an earlier mentioning of a time that this should be 7 years a time being 2 years but when Jesus takes his to heaven in the twinkling of an eye that is not when it starts it will actually start whenever there is someone in power who makes a big peace treaty with Jerusalem of course we might not know about that fro weeks but then after that there are the horsemen of the apocalypse the seven scroll judgments the seven trumpet judgments and the seven bowl/vial judgments which will all take place leading up to a great battle between the tribulation saints (Christians of the time) and the Antichrist

there are many who think that they can tell when it is coming but nobody actually does. i think i'll just throw this out here. you see the bible says that when Jesus takes his church of real believers on earth then there will be a time, and a time, and a time, and a half of tribulation for those left behind some have said that because of an earlier mentioning of a time that this should be 7 years a time being 2 years but when Jesus takes his to heaven in the twinkling of an eye that is not when it starts it will actually start whenever there is someone in power who makes a big peace treaty with Jerusalem of course we might not know about that fro weeks but then after that there are the horsemen of the apocalypse the seven scroll judgments the seven trumpet judgments and the seven bowl/vial judgments which will all take place leading up to a great battle between the tribulation saints (Christians of the time) and the Antichrist

Christians have been debating the end times since Christianity began. Even the apostles didn't understand Christ's prophesy about the Temple, which had a double meaning but within a generation times of tribulation truly came upon the Jews. The question is was Jesus talking to Jews or Christians? And then we have John's revelation talking about an entirely different tribulation which we would appear to be in the middle of now but are our times any worse than those of a century ago or those in the seventh century and once again was Christ talking to Christians or the Jews? Which part of the three and a half years are we in, have they begun with a count down to 2012?

Christians have been debating the end times since Christianity began. Even the apostles didn't understand Christ's prophesy about the Temple, which had a double meaning but within a generation times of tribulation truly came upon the Jews. The question is was Jesus talking to Jews or Christians? and then we have John's revelation talking about an entirely different tribulation which we would appear to be in the middle of now but are our times any worse than those of a century ago or those in the seventh century and once again was Christ talking to Christians or the Jews? which part of the three and a half years are we in, have they begun with a count down to 2012?

The Great Tribulation is the final (70 th) week of Daniel's prophecy. As such, it will have to begin with the signing of a treaty between Anti-Christ and Israel

Since The Anti-Christ has not yet been revealed, much less assumed power, we know that we are not in the Great Tribulation periiod.

Will we have tribulations before then? Of course!

Mankind has always had tribulations, but the Great Tribulation stands alone in prophecy, and is the last before the actual physical return of Christ to planet Earth.

The Great Tribulation is the final (70 th) week of Daniel's prophecy. As such, it will have to begin with the signing of a treaty between Anti-Christ and Israel

Since The Anti-Christ has not yet been revealed, much less assumed power, we know that we are not in the Great Tribulation periiod.

Will we have tribulations before then? Of course!

Mankind has always had tribulations, but the Great Tribulation stands alone in prophecy, and is the last before the actual physical return of Christ to planet Earth.

The question I have about all of this is are we talking about mankind or are we talking about Israel and the Jews What defines a tribulation? Was the holocaust a tribulation? And does it stand apart from the Great Tribulation? Was the destruction of the Jewish people in 70 AD and 135AD any less a tribulation or fulfillment of the prophesy

The question I have about all of this is are we talking about mankind or are we talking about Israel and the Jews What defines a tribulation? was the holocaust a tribulation? and does it stand apart from the Great Tribulation? was the destruction of the Jewish people in 70 AD and 135AD any less a tribulation or fulfillment of the prophesy

The destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD was the fulfillment of Jesus' prophecy about that destruction, and He said it would happen witin that generation, and it did.

I believe that the Great Tribulation will be world-wide, but there will be features of it that apply to Israel only.

There is no way that you could have that amount of turbulence in the Middle East without everyone being affected.

It is also called the time of Levi's cleansing, so the focus will indeed be on Israel.